Re: [RESULT] Was Re: [VOTE] Back to ASF Basics (Was: Re: Review model take 2)

2007-09-26 Thread Peter Rossbach
Hi, I vote +1 :-) Peter Am 26.09.2007 um 16:22 schrieb Jim Jagielski: I'd like to call a vote on acceptance of the above methodology, as crafted and fine-tuned by Costin and myself. It is worthwhile to note that, really, these are the typical ASF methods, but with some "grainy" aspects be

Re: [RESULT] Was Re: [VOTE] Back to ASF Basics (Was: Re: Review model take 2)

2007-09-26 Thread Henri Gomez
[ ] +1. Yes, the above works and addresses my concerns as well as the problems which started this whole thing. Just to be sure 2007/9/26, Jim Jagielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > I'd like to call a vote on acceptance of the above methodology, > > as crafted and fine-tune

[RESULT] Was Re: [VOTE] Back to ASF Basics (Was: Re: Review model take 2)

2007-09-26 Thread Jim Jagielski
I'd like to call a vote on acceptance of the above methodology, as crafted and fine-tuned by Costin and myself. It is worthwhile to note that, really, these are the typical ASF methods, but with some "grainy" aspects better defined. In essence, some typical "niceties" are now mandated (changes,

Re: [VOTE] Back to ASF Basics (Was: Re: Review model take 2)

2007-09-23 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
jean-frederic clere wrote: > Mark Thomas wrote: >> Jim Jagielski wrote: >> >> - There is only one dev branch. I am -1 for creating separate dev >> branches for 3.3.x, 4.1.x, 5.0.x and 5.5.x on the grounds it is too much >> overhead for branches that are in maintenance mode where 99% of the >> patch

Re: [VOTE] Back to ASF Basics (Was: Re: Review model take 2)

2007-09-23 Thread Henri Gomez
+1 2007/9/23, Peter Rossbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >>>[X] +1. Yes, the above works and addresses my concerns > >>>as well as the problems which started this whole > >>>thing. > >>>[ ] 0. Whatever. > >>>[ ] -1. The above does not work for the following reasons:

Re: [VOTE] Back to ASF Basics (Was: Re: Review model take 2)

2007-09-23 Thread Peter Rossbach
[X] +1. Yes, the above works and addresses my concerns as well as the problems which started this whole thing. [ ] 0. Whatever. [ ] -1. The above does not work for the following reasons: I agree with Remy: We must find a process that really work normally quick

Re: [VOTE] Back to ASF Basics (Was: Re: Review model take 2)

2007-09-23 Thread Rainer Jung
Jim Jagielski schrieb: >[X] +1. Yes, the above works and addresses my concerns >as well as the problems which started this whole >thing. >[ ] 0. Whatever. >[ ] -1. The above does not work for the following reasons: --

Re: [VOTE] Back to ASF Basics (Was: Re: Review model take 2)

2007-09-23 Thread Jim Jagielski
Mark Thomas wrote: > > Jim Jagielski wrote: > >[X] +1. Yes, the above works and addresses my concerns > >as well as the problems which started this whole > >thing. > >[ ] 0. Whatever. > >[ ] -1. The above does not work for the following reasons: > > > > With

Re: [VOTE] Back to ASF Basics (Was: Re: Review model take 2)

2007-09-23 Thread Jim Jagielski
Mladen Turk wrote: > > Jim Jagielski wrote: > > > > > >[X] +1. Yes, the above works and addresses my concerns > >as well as the problems which started this whole > >thing. > >[ ] 0. Whatever. > >[ ] -1. The above does not work for the following reasons: > >

Re: [VOTE] Back to ASF Basics (Was: Re: Review model take 2)

2007-09-23 Thread jean-frederic clere
Mark Thomas wrote: > Jim Jagielski wrote: >>[X] +1. Yes, the above works and addresses my concerns >>as well as the problems which started this whole >>thing. >>[ ] 0. Whatever. >>[ ] -1. The above does not work for the following reasons: >> > > With the follow

Re: [VOTE] Back to ASF Basics (Was: Re: Review model take 2)

2007-09-23 Thread jean-frederic clere
+1 Cheers Jean-Frederic > >[ ] +1. Yes, the above works and addresses my concerns >as well as the problems which started this whole >thing. >[ ] 0. Whatever. >[ ] -1. The above does not work for the following reasons: > > The vote will run for 96 hours inst

Re: [VOTE] Back to ASF Basics (Was: Re: Review model take 2)

2007-09-23 Thread Remy Maucherat
Mark Thomas wrote: Jim Jagielski wrote: [X] +1. Yes, the above works and addresses my concerns as well as the problems which started this whole thing. [ ] 0. Whatever. [ ] -1. The above does not work for the following reasons: With the following caveats: - The

Re: [VOTE] Back to ASF Basics (Was: Re: Review model take 2)

2007-09-22 Thread Mladen Turk
Jim Jagielski wrote: [X] +1. Yes, the above works and addresses my concerns as well as the problems which started this whole thing. [ ] 0. Whatever. [ ] -1. The above does not work for the following reasons: If voted (and it looks it will) we should put them s

Re: [VOTE] Back to ASF Basics (Was: Re: Review model take 2)

2007-09-22 Thread Mark Thomas
Jim Jagielski wrote: >[X] +1. Yes, the above works and addresses my concerns >as well as the problems which started this whole >thing. >[ ] 0. Whatever. >[ ] -1. The above does not work for the following reasons: > With the following caveats: - There is only

Re: [VOTE] Back to ASF Basics (Was: Re: Review model take 2)

2007-09-22 Thread Remy Maucherat
Jim Jagielski wrote: Remy Maucherat wrote: Jim Jagielski wrote: [X] +1. Yes, the above works and addresses my concerns as well as the problems which started this whole thing. [ ] 0. Whatever. [ ] -1. The above does not work for the following reasons: My proposal

Re: [VOTE] Back to ASF Basics (Was: Re: Review model take 2)

2007-09-22 Thread Jim Jagielski
Remy Maucherat wrote: > > Jim Jagielski wrote: > >[X] +1. Yes, the above works and addresses my concerns > >as well as the problems which started this whole > >thing. > >[ ] 0. Whatever. > >[ ] -1. The above does not work for the following reasons: > > My prop

Re: [VOTE] Back to ASF Basics (Was: Re: Review model take 2)

2007-09-22 Thread Filip Hanik - Dev Lists
Jim Jagielski wrote: [X] +1. Yes, the above works and addresses my concerns as well as the problems which started this whole thing. [ ] 0. Whatever. [ ] -1. The above does not work for the following reasons: The vote will run for 96 hours instead of the normal 7

Re: [VOTE] Back to ASF Basics (Was: Re: Review model take 2)

2007-09-22 Thread Costin Manolache
+1 On 9/22/07, Jim Jagielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sep 22, 2007, at 9:45 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > > > >[X] +1. Yes, the above works and addresses my concerns > >as well as the problems which started this whole > >thing. > >[ ] 0. Whatever. > >[

Re: [VOTE] Back to ASF Basics (Was: Re: Review model take 2)

2007-09-22 Thread Filip Hanik - Dev Lists
this email is so unclean, I'm a bit confused on the exact bullets, mind posting a new thread? Filip Jim Jagielski wrote: On Sep 21, 2007, at 4:36 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Sep 21, 2007, at 4:27 PM, Costin Manolache wrote: On 9/21/07, Jim Jagielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just pr

Re: [VOTE] Back to ASF Basics (Was: Re: Review model take 2)

2007-09-22 Thread Remy Maucherat
Jim Jagielski wrote: [X] +1. Yes, the above works and addresses my concerns as well as the problems which started this whole thing. [ ] 0. Whatever. [ ] -1. The above does not work for the following reasons: My proposal was to put the principles forward clearly:

Re: [VOTE] Back to ASF Basics (Was: Re: Review model take 2)

2007-09-22 Thread Tim Funk
Jim Jagielski wrote: [X] +1. Yes, the above works and addresses my concerns as well as the problems which started this whole thing. [ ] 0. Whatever. [ ] -1. The above does not work for the following reasons: --

Re: [VOTE] Back to ASF Basics (Was: Re: Review model take 2)

2007-09-22 Thread Jim Jagielski
Here is the synopsis: o Existence of release and development branches in parallel with each other (dev are odd numbered, release are even numbered). o Development branches are CTR. If code or patches to this branch change the API, advanced warning is required even before

Re: [VOTE] Back to ASF Basics (Was: Re: Review model take 2)

2007-09-22 Thread Tim Funk
Can we have a new VOTE with the six bullets (if it is that many - I'm losing track with all the responses). I'm not quite sure what I'm voting for. -Tim I'd like to call a vote on acceptance of the above methodology, as crafted and fine-tuned by Costin and myself. It is worthwhile to note tha

Re: [VOTE] Back to ASF Basics (Was: Re: Review model take 2)

2007-09-22 Thread Yoav Shapira
Hey, On 9/22/07, Jim Jagielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [ X ] +1. Yes, the above works and addresses my concerns > as well as the problems which started this whole > thing. Yoav - To unsubscribe,

Re: [VOTE] Back to ASF Basics (Was: Re: Review model take 2)

2007-09-22 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Sep 22, 2007, at 9:45 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: [X] +1. Yes, the above works and addresses my concerns as well as the problems which started this whole thing. [ ] 0. Whatever. [ ] -1. The above does not work for the following reasons: The vote will run for 96

[VOTE] Back to ASF Basics (Was: Re: Review model take 2)

2007-09-22 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Sep 21, 2007, at 4:36 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Sep 21, 2007, at 4:27 PM, Costin Manolache wrote: On 9/21/07, Jim Jagielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just propose a polite way to move from the commit for a controversial change ( i.e. when someone feels strongly it's going to the