Re: [DISCUSS] Propose Usergrid for Graduation

2015-08-03 Thread Todd Nine
Hey guys, Sorry for the delay, I've been on vacation in the mountains with no internet and no cell phone, it was great! I'll gladly volunteer for the Usergrid PMC Chair role. Dave has done a fantastic job leading us through the Apache process during incubation, and I would like to assist in

Re: [DISCUSS] Propose Usergrid for Graduation

2015-08-03 Thread Dave
Awesome! I think we should put Todd down as the PMC Chair and move ahead with the gradation vote. Anybody opposed to that? Dave On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 12:05 PM Todd Nine todd.n...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys, Sorry for the delay, I've been on vacation in the mountains with no internet and

Re: [DISCUSS] Propose Usergrid for Graduation

2015-08-03 Thread Rod Simpson
huge +1 --  Rod Simpson On August 3, 2015 at 10:12:27 AM, Dave (snoopd...@gmail.com) wrote: Awesome! I think we should put Todd down as the PMC Chair and move ahead with the gradation vote. Anybody opposed to that? Dave On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 12:05 PM Todd Nine todd.n...@gmail.com

Re: [DISCUSS] Propose Usergrid for Graduation

2015-08-03 Thread Sungju Jin
+1 ;) On Tuesday, August 4, 2015, Ed Anuff e...@anuff.com wrote: +1 On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Rod Simpson r...@rodsimpson.com javascript:; wrote: huge +1 -- Rod Simpson On August 3, 2015 at 10:12:27 AM, Dave (snoopd...@gmail.com javascript:;) wrote: Awesome! I

Re: [DISCUSS] Propose Usergrid for Graduation

2015-08-03 Thread Ed Anuff
+1 On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Rod Simpson r...@rodsimpson.com wrote: huge +1 -- Rod Simpson On August 3, 2015 at 10:12:27 AM, Dave (snoopd...@gmail.com) wrote: Awesome! I think we should put Todd down as the PMC Chair and move ahead with the gradation vote. Anybody opposed to

Re: [DISCUSS] Propose Usergrid for Graduation

2015-08-02 Thread Dave
On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 1:26 PM John D. Ament johndam...@apache.org wrote: If Todd's interested, we should hold a vote. We should probably hold a vote regardless. We can also plan to practice the common pattern of rolling PMC chairs. Its a boring job, but someone has to do it. By rotating

Re: [DISCUSS] Propose Usergrid for Graduation

2015-08-02 Thread John D. Ament
If Todd's interested, we should hold a vote. We should probably hold a vote regardless. We can also plan to practice the common pattern of rolling PMC chairs. Its a boring job, but someone has to do it. By rotating periodically (e.g. annually) we're keeping it a chore for a year only. John

Re: [DISCUSS] Propose Usergrid for Graduation

2015-08-01 Thread Dave
I'm willing to serve as PMC Chair unless Todd wants this. Todd: please read up on this thread an respond so we can move ahead with graduation. This is the one about the PMC Chair: http://markmail.org/message/u4njh6uxlgkafcws Dave On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 8:48 PM Ed Anuff e...@anuff.com wrote:

Re: [DISCUSS] Propose Usergrid for Graduation

2015-07-27 Thread Rod Simpson
I agree that diversity in this sense seems like a high bar for new projects.   You can’t make people become committers.  So I wonder: have we embraced the Apache way?  Have we been helpful / encouraging for new users? Do we answer questions promptly? Have we made

Re: [DISCUSS] Propose Usergrid for Graduation

2015-07-26 Thread John D. Ament
This goes into it a little bit [1], but realistically its generally counted as: - Where are the committers coming from, company wise? - Is there a robust enough PMC being voted in that allows for independence? I believe some of the concerns have been because of recent issues in a few TLPs where

Re: [DISCUSS] Propose Usergrid for Graduation

2015-07-26 Thread Dave
In this context, I think diversity means that the committers are from a variety of organizations and employers. Having this diversity helps to ensure that if one organization completely stops Usergrid development, the project still has enough people interested in contributing to carry on. For

Re: [DISCUSS] Propose Usergrid for Graduation

2015-07-26 Thread Rod Simpson
Can someone define “diversity”? In this context, I mean.  I have not read other threads.   --  Rod Simpson On July 25, 2015 at 6:48:36 PM, Ed Anuff (e...@anuff.com) wrote: Agree that Todd or Dave are great candidates. Of course, it's not a draft, so need to see who actually wants it. I've

Re: [DISCUSS] Propose Usergrid for Graduation

2015-07-26 Thread Ed Anuff
The issue seems to come down to is diversity of committers not a requirement, aspirational and highly encouraged, or a requirement? I think many people would say that it's aspirational and highly encouraged but this is hard to measure in terms of graduation criteria, so opinions are clustering

Re: [DISCUSS] Propose Usergrid for Graduation

2015-07-25 Thread John D. Ament
A few comments in line (I was going to email to see what the status was, then noticed it was in git, then saw this mail... slowly catching up). On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 10:40 AM Dave snoopd...@gmail.com wrote: Now that I have updated the project status page (usergrid.xml) to include all

Re: [DISCUSS] Propose Usergrid for Graduation

2015-07-25 Thread Rod Simpson
+1 for Dave or Todd --  Rod Simpson On July 25, 2015 at 11:28:17 AM, John D. Ament (john.d.am...@gmail.com) wrote: A few comments in line (I was going to email to see what the status was, then noticed it was in git, then saw this mail... slowly catching up). On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 10:40

Re: [DISCUSS] Propose Usergrid for Graduation

2015-07-25 Thread Ed Anuff
Agree that Todd or Dave are great candidates. Of course, it's not a draft, so need to see who actually wants it. I've been watching the whole diversity thread on the Incubator list and there does seem to be some polarized opinions. I think it would be useful to review the recent commentary

Re: [DISCUSS] Propose Usergrid for Graduation

2015-07-23 Thread Dave
Now that I have updated the project status page (usergrid.xml) to include all committers and their users ( http://incubator.apache.org/projects/usergrid.html -- not sure why it has not updated yet), I believe we are ready to move ahead with graduation. Graduation to a top level project requires:

Re: [DISCUSS] Propose Usergrid for Graduation

2015-07-15 Thread Dave
Sorry for the delayed response. I was waiting for after the 1.0.2 release to join this discussion and now that 1.0.2 is going out to the mirrors, I think we are ready to propose graduation. We should figure out the next steps and move quickly towards a graduation vote. - Dave On Sat, Jun 20,

Re: [DISCUSS] Propose Usergrid for Graduation

2015-06-20 Thread John D. Ament
On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 11:26 AM John D. Ament johndam...@apache.org wrote: I notice that [1] is still not up to date with committer's IDs. Came up last time graduation was discussed. I just committed some fixes based on IDs I could look up at [2], it looks like we have one case with a

Re: [DISCUSS] Propose Usergrid for Graduation

2015-06-20 Thread Shawn Feldman
Scott used to work full time on the project so not mistaken. Not sure who Alberto is On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 9:29 AM John D. Ament johndam...@apache.org wrote: On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 11:26 AM John D. Ament johndam...@apache.org wrote: I notice that [1] is still not up to date with

[DISCUSS] Propose Usergrid for Graduation

2015-06-20 Thread Lewis John Mcgibbney
Hi Folks, I would like to propose that Usergrid moves towards a graduation. I am satisfied that the UG podling community has proven itself suitable of graduation. I would like to keep this thread open for a wee while for us to ponder over the graduation effort... based on the outcome we can make a