Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Final Release Declared GOLD!

2011-11-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2011-11-04 at 21:06 +0100, Henrik Nordström wrote: > fre 2011-11-04 klockan 11:53 -0600 skrev Kevin Fenzi: > > > If we do this, next cycle we should NOT do any 'two part' go/no-go > > meetings. > > The "two part" meetings were both about critical blockers that were > known and actively b

Re: xfce-weather-plugin stopped working

2011-11-04 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Heiko Adams said: > yesterday in the afternoon the xfce-weather-plugin suddenly stopped > working and allways displays "No Data". Trying to switch my location > or update my fedora 16 against updates-testing also didn't solve that > problem. Does it use The Weather Channel (weat

Re: reporting bugs

2011-11-04 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 11/04/2011 05:39 PM, Ian Malone wrote: > On 4 November 2011 17:23, Kevin Kofler wrote: >> Ian Malone wrote: >>> If I filed every bug in the distro in upstream I'd have a dozen >>> different bugzilla accounts by now. >> >> So what? Maintainers are not messengers, they have other work to do than

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Bojan Smojver
Ian Malone gmail.com> writes: > This is essentially giving up. It's frustrating to be stuck on > overview mode on a four core machine while gnome-shell is doing > /something/ but you don't know what. If it worked fluidly it would be > okay. For me, it goes further than that. I do not want overvi

xfce-weather-plugin stopped working

2011-11-04 Thread Heiko Adams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, yesterday in the afternoon the xfce-weather-plugin suddenly stopped working and allways displays "No Data". Trying to switch my location or update my fedora 16 against updates-testing also didn't solve that problem. Is it just me or a general pr

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Ian Malone
On 4 November 2011 17:23, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Ian Malone wrote: >> If I filed every bug in the distro in upstream I'd have a dozen >> different bugzilla accounts by now. > > So what? Maintainers are not messengers, they have other work to do than > forwarding the bugs you're too lazy to file dir

Re: Upgrading libpng: shall we move to 1.4.x or 1.5.x?

2011-11-04 Thread Xose Vazquez Perez
Henrik Nordström wrote: > Documentaiton on how to adopt application code to work properly with > libpng 1.4+ is readily available. Some notes from upstream: http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/libpng.html ==cut== Portability Note The libpng 1.5.x series continues the evolution of the libpng API, fina

Re: Upgrading libpng: shall we move to 1.4.x or 1.5.x?

2011-11-04 Thread Xose Vazquez Perez
Kevin Fenzi wrote: > Whats upstreams schedule like? How long will 1.4 and 1.5 continue to be > supported, and when do they plan on a 1.6? forever :-? See http://libpng.sf.net/ UPDATE 2 November 2011: The latest released version is libpng-1.5.6 [DOWNLOAD]. * For legacy applications, libpng-1.4.

Re: Upgrading libpng: shall we move to 1.4.x or 1.5.x?

2011-11-04 Thread Xose Vazquez Perez
Dr Andrew John Hughes wrote: > FYI, Gentoo already went to libpng 1.5 and so have patches floating around > for a lot of stuff that breaks. from a _quick_ search: http://software.opensuse.org/search?q=libpng&baseproject=openSUSE%3AFactory&lang=en&exclude_debug=true suse1.4.x/1.2.x st

Re: GNOME vs. Fedora logo in gdm window

2011-11-04 Thread Bill Nottingham
Jos Vos (j...@xos.nl) said: > On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 03:10:10PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > > This is the fallback GDM, correct? > > Yes it is (in a KVM console). I now realize that it looks different > from the GDM I saw when I tested an earlier beta on a "real PC". This is a result of

[Bug 750805] Fails to build on ARM, needs to use default setjmp not ucontext

2011-11-04 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=750805 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added --

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Final Release Declared GOLD!

2011-11-04 Thread Henrik Nordström
fre 2011-11-04 klockan 11:53 -0600 skrev Kevin Fenzi: > If we do this, next cycle we should NOT do any 'two part' go/no-go > meetings. The "two part" meetings were both about critical blockers that were known and actively being worked on at the time of the meeting. This situation will happen no

Re: Upgrading libpng: shall we move to 1.4.x or 1.5.x?

2011-11-04 Thread Tom Lane
Dr Andrew John Hughes writes: > FYI, Gentoo already went to libpng 1.5 and so have patches floating around > for a lot of stuff that breaks. Oh, thanks, that's very useful to know! I think the availability of such patches should substantially reduce the pain involved. Given that, I will proceed

Re: GNOME vs. Fedora logo in gdm window

2011-11-04 Thread Jos Vos
On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 03:10:10PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > This is the fallback GDM, correct? Yes it is (in a KVM console). I now realize that it looks different from the GDM I saw when I tested an earlier beta on a "real PC". -- --Jos Vos --X/OS Experts in Open Systems BV |

Re: Another glibc change that nearly got pushed into F16

2011-11-04 Thread Adam Jackson
On 10/26/11 12:32 PM, Jared K. Smith wrote: > On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Richard W.M. Jones > wrote: >> https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/682 > > I've made another attempt to reach out the the glibc maintainer > directly again this morning to hopefully answer the questions in that > ti

Re: Upgrading libpng: shall we move to 1.4.x or 1.5.x?

2011-11-04 Thread Dr Andrew John Hughes
On 13:12 Fri 04 Nov , Tom Lane wrote: > I have been looking into replacing Fedora's obsolete version of libpng > (1.2.x release series) with something more modern. The possible choices > are the 1.4.x and 1.5.x release series. The 1.5.x series adds some more > features that 1.4.x did not have

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Final Release Declared GOLD!

2011-11-04 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 4 November 2011 13:06, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 11:55:00 -0700 > Adam Williamson wrote: > >> On Fri, 2011-11-04 at 11:53 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> >> > > I am concerned with the process as executed not matching the >> > > documentation. I'd just like to see a change codified

Re: GNOME vs. Fedora logo in gdm window

2011-11-04 Thread Bill Nottingham
Jos Vos (j...@xos.nl) said: > I just installed F16 RC5 in a VM and I see the GNOME (foot) logo > in the gdm login window, i.s.o. the Fedora logo. Is this correct? > IIRC the Fedora logo was still there in an earlier beta... This is the fallback GDM, correct? Bill -- devel mailing list devel@li

Re: Upgrading libpng: shall we move to 1.4.x or 1.5.x?

2011-11-04 Thread Henrik Nordström
fre 2011-11-04 klockan 13:12 -0400 skrev Tom Lane: > Packages that rebuilt successfully with 1.5 658 > Packages that FTBFS for non-libpng reasons186 > Packages that rebuilt with 1.4, but not 1.5 74 > Packages that need help even with 1.4 46 With this data my gut feeling is to go f

Re: Upgrading libpng: shall we move to 1.4.x or 1.5.x?

2011-11-04 Thread Tom Lane
Chris Adams writes: > Once upon a time, Tom Lane said: >> Any opinions on which way to jump? > How hard is it to fix source that accesses the fields directly? Do all > the fields that were previously exposed have direct accessor functions? AFAIK, they all do, and it should be a pretty straight

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Final Release Declared GOLD!

2011-11-04 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 11:55:00 -0700 Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2011-11-04 at 11:53 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > > I am concerned with the process as executed not matching the > > > documentation. I'd just like to see a change codified that either > > > allows moving the Go / No-Go meetin

Re: Upgrading libpng: shall we move to 1.4.x or 1.5.x?

2011-11-04 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 14:54:28 -0400 Tom Lane wrote: > Kevin Fenzi writes: > > Some quick questions: > > > Whats upstreams schedule like? How long will 1.4 and 1.5 continue > > to be supported, and when do they plan on a 1.6? > > 1.4 will be supported for a long time, though presumably not as l

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Final Release Declared GOLD!

2011-11-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2011-11-04 at 11:53 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > I am concerned with the process as executed not matching the > > documentation. I'd just like to see a change codified that either > > allows moving the Go / No-Go meeting when appropriate or just > > schedule it closer to the readiness mee

Re: Upgrading libpng: shall we move to 1.4.x or 1.5.x?

2011-11-04 Thread Tom Lane
Kevin Fenzi writes: > Some quick questions: > Whats upstreams schedule like? How long will 1.4 and 1.5 continue to be > supported, and when do they plan on a 1.6? 1.4 will be supported for a long time, though presumably not as long as 1.5. I don't think there are any active plans for an incomp

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Final Release Declared GOLD!

2011-11-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2011-11-04 at 09:37 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 23:17:21 -0700, > Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > It'd be great if we can work with the anaconda team closely to try and > > get involved all along the line in the UI rewrite stuff, and see if that > > can reduce

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Kevin Fenzi
...snip... Just another datapoint, my personal policy here is: a) ask the reporter if they could report it upstream, as they will be able to answer questions and advocate for their bug much better that I can in some cases. b) If they say no, and I agree it's a bug/issue that should be addressed

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Tomas Mraz
On Fri, 2011-11-04 at 10:17 -0800, Jef Spaleta wrote: > On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > Shipping bug-free software is the job of maintainers. It's reasonable to > > ask a reporter to take an issue upstream if you feel that that'll result > > in the bug being fixed faste

Re: Upgrading libpng: shall we move to 1.4.x or 1.5.x?

2011-11-04 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Tom Lane said: > Any opinions on which way to jump? How hard is it to fix source that accesses the fields directly? Do all the fields that were previously exposed have direct accessor functions? If that's the case, it should be straight-forward (although time consuming) grunt w

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Jef Spaleta
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > Shipping bug-free software is the job of maintainers. It's reasonable to > ask a reporter to take an issue upstream if you feel that that'll result > in the bug being fixed faster, but there's no reason to mandate that and > it certainly doe

Re: Upgrading libpng: shall we move to 1.4.x or 1.5.x?

2011-11-04 Thread Kevin Fenzi
...snip... Excellent background and detective work! Kudos! Some quick questions: Whats upstreams schedule like? How long will 1.4 and 1.5 continue to be supported, and when do they plan on a 1.6? Is there possibly a way to switch to 1.4, but warn (buildtime) about this going away soon, etc?

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Final Release Declared GOLD!

2011-11-04 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 4 Nov 2011 09:37:33 -0500 Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 23:17:21 -0700, > Adam Williamson wrote: ...snip... > > > Yeah, agreed. I don't think there's any especial need for the > > go/no-go to be an entire day ahead of the release readiness > > meeting, in all hone

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Bojan Smojver
--- Original message --- > From: seth vidal >Install xfce. You'll be happy w/that. Thanks for the tip. Or maybe I'll just have to find time to (learn how to) hack the shell, remove overview from it, bring back the taskbar and workspaces to normal view and call it gnome-non-shell-sh

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread drago01
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 06:23:02PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: >> Ian Malone wrote: >> > If I filed every bug in the distro in upstream I'd have a dozen >> > different bugzilla accounts by now. >> >> So what? Maintainers are not messengers, t

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Richard Shaw
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Ian Malone wrote: >> If I filed every bug in the distro in upstream I'd have a dozen >> different bugzilla accounts by now. > > So what? Maintainers are not messengers, they have other work to do than > forwarding the bugs you're too lazy to f

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 06:23:02PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Ian Malone wrote: > > If I filed every bug in the distro in upstream I'd have a dozen > > different bugzilla accounts by now. > > So what? Maintainers are not messengers, they have other work to do than > forwarding the bugs you're t

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
seth vidal wrote: > Bojan, > Install xfce. You'll be happy w/that. You should also give KDE Plasma Desktop a try. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
Ian Malone wrote: > If I filed every bug in the distro in upstream I'd have a dozen > different bugzilla accounts by now. So what? Maintainers are not messengers, they have other work to do than forwarding the bugs you're too lazy to file directly at the right place. Kevin Kofler -- de

Re: unsure for wich component file bugreport

2011-11-04 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 11/04/2011 06:00 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > well, everytime i come in contact with anything from apple i could throw > something out of the window beginning with the "systemctl ACTION service" > instead "systemctl SERVICE action" while i laughed over years about apples > order of this in their

Upgrading libpng: shall we move to 1.4.x or 1.5.x?

2011-11-04 Thread Tom Lane
I have been looking into replacing Fedora's obsolete version of libpng (1.2.x release series) with something more modern. The possible choices are the 1.4.x and 1.5.x release series. The 1.5.x series adds some more features that 1.4.x did not have, but it also poses significantly more migration p

Re: unsure for wich component file bugreport

2011-11-04 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.11.2011 17:29, schrieb Lennart Poettering: > Well, believe me, there's no point in bitching here about Avahi. I > didn't make the choice that .local was the mDNS domain. Apple did. well, everytime i come in contact with anything from apple i could throw something out of the window beginning

Package picolisp

2011-11-04 Thread Alexander Burger
Hi all, I have a question to package maintainers. I'm the upstream developer of PicoLisp, and would like to see it included in the Fedora wishlist. Currently, PicoLisp is available in OpenWRT and the Debian family of distributions. Is anybody interested to maintain it as a package in Fedora? If

Re: F16 - random shutdown delays - systemd related ?

2011-11-04 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/04/2011 02:34 AM, JB wrote: > JB gmail.com> writes: > >> >> Michal Schmidt redhat.com> writes: >> >>> ... Show us the shutdown-log.txt. >> ... >> >> Here you go: >> >> http://pastebin.com/EHTiuiR8 >> >> JB >> > > This is related to seli

Anaconda & LVM in F16

2011-11-04 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet
Just a thank you for allowing me to uncheck 'Use LVM'. Much simpler than custom partitioning but still gets me what I need/wanted to use. -- Nathanael d. Noblet t 403.875.4613 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: unsure for wich component file bugreport

2011-11-04 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 11/04/2011 05:06 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 04.11.2011 16:37, schrieb Lennart Poettering: >> nslookup will only work for unicast DNS names, and hence will bypass any >> mDNS lookups. > > as you see "nslookup" does not bypass, it resolves > so what component and how to tell leave my configura

Re: unsure for wich component file bugreport

2011-11-04 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 04.11.11 17:06, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: > > Note that ".local" is the mDNS ad-hoc domain as implemented by Avahi, > > Bonjour/MacOS, and a lot of hardware > > this domain name was used / selected LONG before avahi was a topic Well, believe me, there's no point in bi

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Ian Malone
On 4 November 2011 14:36, drago01 wrote: > On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Ian Malone wrote: >> >> This is essentially giving up. It's frustrating to be stuck on >> overview mode on a four core machine while gnome-shell is doing >> /something/ but you don't know what. If it worked fluidly it wo

GNOME vs. Fedora logo in gdm window

2011-11-04 Thread Jos Vos
Hi, I just installed F16 RC5 in a VM and I see the GNOME (foot) logo in the gdm login window, i.s.o. the Fedora logo. Is this correct? IIRC the Fedora logo was still there in an earlier beta... -- --Jos Vos --X/OS Experts in Open Systems BV | Phone: +31 20 6938364 --Amsterdam, T

Re: unsure for wich component file bugreport

2011-11-04 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.11.2011 16:37, schrieb Lennart Poettering: > On Fri, 04.11.11 15:28, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: > >> [harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ ssh root@centos.vmware.local >> ssh: Could not resolve hostname centos.vmware.local: Name or service not >> known >> >> [harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ nsloo

Re: unsure for wich component file bugreport

2011-11-04 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 04.11.11 15:28, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: > [harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ ssh root@centos.vmware.local > ssh: Could not resolve hostname centos.vmware.local: Name or service not known > > [harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ nslookup centos.vmware.local > Server: 127.0.0.1 > Address:

Re: unsure for wich component file bugreport

2011-11-04 Thread Andreas Schwab
Reindl Harald writes: > [harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ ssh root@centos.vmware.local > ssh: Could not resolve hostname centos.vmware.local: Name or service not known .local is reserved for MDNS. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, sch...@redhat.com GPG Key fingerprint = D4E8 DBE3 3813 BB5D FA84 5EC7 45C6 250E

Nomination period for Fedora Board, FESCo, and FAmSCo elections closes Nov. 5

2011-11-04 Thread Robyn Bergeron
Greetings and salutations, It is time for yet another edition of "Robyn's Fedora Public Service Announcements" :) I'd like to give you a friendly reminder that the nomination period for the upcoming Fedora elections will be closing promptly TOMORROW, Saturday, November 5, 2011, at 23:59:59

unsure for wich component file bugreport

2011-11-04 Thread Reindl Harald
it seems there is a bug but i can not figure out in which component if i try to connect with the full-qualified hostname it says name or service not known, without the domain it works because it is in "resolv.conf" this does not affect ssh, seems to be global the following apache-reverse-proxy to

Re: F16 - random shutdown delays - systemd related ?

2011-11-04 Thread JB
Michal Schmidt redhat.com> writes: > > On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 17:21:08 + (UTC) JB wrote: > > http://pastebin.com/QsD9LDxb > > This log shows no excessive delay during shutdown. > ... > Are you sure the long delay occured in the test this log is from? > > Michal I claimed that the 2 min delay

Re: F16 - random shutdown delays - systemd related ?

2011-11-04 Thread JB
JB gmail.com> writes: > > JB gmail.com> writes: > > > > > Michal Schmidt redhat.com> writes: > > > > > ... > > > Show us the shutdown-log.txt. > > ... > > > > Here you go: > > > > http://pastebin.com/EHTiuiR8 > > > > JB > > > > I see these NetworkManager activities that are repeated an

Re: F16 - random shutdown delays - systemd related ?

2011-11-04 Thread JB
JB gmail.com> writes: > > Michal Schmidt redhat.com> writes: > > > ... > > Show us the shutdown-log.txt. > ... > > Here you go: > > http://pastebin.com/EHTiuiR8 > > JB > This is related to selinux: ... [ 17.701301] sandbox[868]: Starting sandbox/etc/rc.d/init.d/sandbox: line 58: succes

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Peter Robinson
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Kaleb S. KEITHLEY wrote: > Tell us again where to find that "gnome shell for dummies" doc? The cheat sheet? http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/CheatSheet > I tried to give it a fair trial, but I found it so > non-intuitive/counter-intuitive that I gave up after an h

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Kaleb S. KEITHLEY
Tell us again where to find that "gnome shell for dummies" doc? I tried to give it a fair trial, but I found it so non-intuitive/counter-intuitive that I gave up after an hour and switched to Forced Fallback Mode. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.o

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Final Release Declared GOLD!

2011-11-04 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 23:17:21 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > It'd be great if we can work with the anaconda team closely to try and > get involved all along the line in the UI rewrite stuff, and see if that > can reduce the pressure around release times - let's put that on the > table for

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread drago01
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Ian Malone wrote: > On 4 November 2011 13:21, seth vidal wrote: >> On Fri, 4 Nov 2011 10:25:54 + (UTC) >> Bojan Smojver wrote: >> >>> Adam Williamson redhat.com> writes: >>> >>> > > Yeah, I got that bit. But I'm sure all you folks are in the know, >>> > > so

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Fri, 2011-11-04 at 14:10 +, Ian Malone wrote: > It's frustrating to be stuck on > overview mode on a four core machine while gnome-shell is doing > /something/ but you don't know what. If it worked fluidly it would be > okay. Actually, the responsiveness issue isn't limited just to > overvie

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread seth vidal
On Fri, 4 Nov 2011 14:10:57 + Ian Malone wrote: > On 4 November 2011 13:21, seth vidal > wrote: > > On Fri, 4 Nov 2011 10:25:54 + (UTC) > > Bojan Smojver wrote: > > > >> Adam Williamson redhat.com> writes: > >> > >> > > Yeah, I got that bit. But I'm sure all you folks are in the > >> >

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 14:58:47 +0100, Ilyes Gouta wrote: > > One nice outcome is that we could end up with an optimized reference > s/w renderer (and kernel/user land stack) for all platforms. Which is > cool! :) The other graphics related improvement looking possible for F17 is complete Ope

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Ian Malone
On 4 November 2011 13:21, seth vidal wrote: > On Fri, 4 Nov 2011 10:25:54 + (UTC) > Bojan Smojver wrote: > >> Adam Williamson redhat.com> writes: >> >> > > Yeah, I got that bit. But I'm sure all you folks are in the know, >> > > so I asked. >> > >> > No more than anyone - there really is no

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 23:09:12 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2011-11-04 at 03:42 +, Bojan Smojver wrote: > > But based on what they've said in the past, I expect that once most > hardware that previously needed the fallback mode is covered, fallback > mode will die. AIUI, fallba

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Ilyes Gouta
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Thu, 2011-11-03 at 23:09 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > >> >> But based on what they've said in the past, I expect that once most >> hardware that previously needed the fallback mode is covered, fallback >> mode will die. AIUI, fallback

[perl-NetAddr-IP] Created tag perl-NetAddr-IP-4.056-1.fc17

2011-11-04 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-NetAddr-IP-4.056-1.fc17' was created pointing to: 1d66843... Update to 4.056 -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/perl-deve

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Thu, 2011-11-03 at 23:09 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > But based on what they've said in the past, I expect that once most > hardware that previously needed the fallback mode is covered, fallback > mode will die. AIUI, fallback mode isn't meant to be a GNOME > 2-by-stealth for Shell refuse

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread seth vidal
On Fri, 4 Nov 2011 10:25:54 + (UTC) Bojan Smojver wrote: > Adam Williamson redhat.com> writes: > > > > Yeah, I got that bit. But I'm sure all you folks are in the know, > > > so I asked. > > > > No more than anyone - there really is no cabal ;) All I know is > > what the GNOME / desktop te

Re: UsrMove feature (was Re: FESCo meeting minutes for 2011-10-24)

2011-11-04 Thread Harald Hoyer
Am 30.10.2011 23:02, schrieb Lennart Poettering: > On Mon, 24.10.11 13:05, Chris Adams (cmad...@hiwaay.net) wrote: > > Here's an attempt to summarize the rationale for merging /bin, /sbin, > /usr/sbin into /usr/bin with different words collecting the various points > raised: > > a) the split betw

[perl-NetAddr-IP] Update to 4.056

2011-11-04 Thread Paul Howarth
commit 1d66843d905bfe13532d7ce080d8deae5d96ff0b Author: Paul Howarth Date: Fri Nov 4 13:09:48 2011 + Update to 4.056 - Update to 4.056 - In InetBase.pm v0.04: - Improve inet_aton to overcome broken gethostbyname found in NetBSD and OpenBSD perl-NetAddr

rawhide report: 20111104 changes

2011-11-04 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Fri Nov 4 08:15:08 UTC 2011 Broken deps for x86_64 -- 4ti2-1.3.2-7.fc17.1.x86_64 requires libgmp.so.3()(64bit) 1:anerley-0.3.0-5.fc17.i686 requires libedataserver-1.2.so.15 1:anerley-0.3.0-5.fc17.i6

Re: New build of fedpkg (fedora-packager) coming to updates-testing / rawhide

2011-11-04 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 2.11.2011 19:06, Jesse Keating napsal(a): > As noted on IRC, but repeated here for the rest of the class, I've > been buried in the work necessary to convert the internal Red Hat > repos from cvs to git, much like we did in Fedora. This required > some changes to fedpkg, particularly moving mo

Re: F16 - random shutdown delays - systemd related ?

2011-11-04 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 18:39:25 + (UTC) JB wrote: > I see these NetworkManager activities that are repeated and seem to be > identical (if this is a problem, then systemd or NetworkManager > related ?): That looks like some kind of a logging oddity, where the same messages reach the kmsg buffer tw

Re: F16 - random shutdown delays - systemd related ?

2011-11-04 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 17:21:08 + (UTC) JB wrote: > http://pastebin.com/QsD9LDxb This log shows no excessive delay during shutdown. systemd was asked to power off here: [ 979.583227] systemd[1]: Got D-Bus request: org.freedesktop.systemd1.Manager.StartUnit() on /org/freedesktop/systemd1 [ 979.

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Bojan Smojver
Adam Williamson redhat.com> writes: > > Yeah, I got that bit. But I'm sure all you folks are in the know, so I > > asked. > > No more than anyone - there really is no cabal ;) All I know is what the > GNOME / desktop team have said in public, but what they've said seems to > point in a Shell-y