Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/28/2011 01:39 AM, Bernd Stramm wrote: > > It is useful to point out that the space requirements are significant. > > You would want an implementation that does _not_ store all this > information on installed systems. > > Separate the advertising part from the packaging part. Make the > adv

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Angus Salkeld
> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 02:06:51AM +0100, Björn Persson wrote: > > Gregory Maxwell wrote: > > > Can someone help me understand whats being asked for here? I can > > > only > > > guess that I'm not the only person confused by this thread. > > > > Icons. The only thing I can see that Giovanni has m

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Bernd Stramm wrote: > Removing the screenshots, icons, popularity vote results etc etc > post-install is not a good solution. These things should be available > when someone wants to look at them, not installed by default. > > The mechanisms to look at them should

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 12:19:21 +0100 Giovanni Campagna wrote: > The fedora-app-install review was brought to FESCo > (https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/469), which agreed to ship the > package, but then nothing happened. Just to be clear, FESCo agreed that the package could be shipped. ;) Noth

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 22:02:14 +0100 drago01 wrote: > On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Reindl Harald > wrote: > > > > > > Am 27.11.2011 21:09, schrieb Bernd Stramm: > > > If implemented the wrong way, what's wrong with screenshots > is bloat. > >>> > >>> If implemented wrong, everything

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread drago01
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 27.11.2011 21:09, schrieb Bernd Stramm: > If implemented the wrong way, what's wrong with screenshots is bloat. >>> >>> If implemented wrong, everything can be wrong.  That's just a truism >>> and not a useful review of any p

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 27.11.2011 21:09, schrieb Bernd Stramm: >>> If implemented the wrong way, what's wrong with screenshots >>> is bloat. >> >> If implemented wrong, everything can be wrong. That's just a truism >> and not a useful review of any proposal. > > It is useful to point out that the space requir

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 01:09:46 +0530 Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 11/28/2011 12:01 AM, Bernd Stramm wrote: > > > > Call me elitist then, I think it is better when more people can > > read, and when they actually do it. > > Unfortunately for someone talking about so much about the important of > rea

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/27/2011 04:47 PM, Giovanni Campagna wrote: > I knew about that, and that's in fact what I'm starting from, although > the big problem is obtaining the metadata, not showing it. So, the next logical question would be, how does openSUSE solve this? Rahul -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fe

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Giovanni Campagna
Il giorno dom, 27/11/2011 alle 18.47 +0100, Björn Persson ha scritto: > Giovanni Campagna wrote: > > We also need translations (that are in .desktop files > > but not in .spec files), > > Looky here, a spec file with translations: > http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=mine_detector.git;a=blob;

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/28/2011 12:01 AM, Bernd Stramm wrote: > > Call me elitist then, I think it is better when more people can read, > and when they actually do it. Unfortunately for someone talking about so much about the important of reading, you don't seem to be reading about the proposal much. Its not limi

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 22:06:33 +0530 Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 11/27/2011 09:20 PM, Bernd Stramm wrote: > > > > > I think this is going a little far. Saying that people are better > > off being able to read is not elitist. > > Yes it is. Because you are assuming that it is because people have

Re: 2.6.41.2-1.fc15.x86_64: missing bridge support?

2011-11-27 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 27.11.2011 18:52, schrieb Reindl Harald: > is there something missing in recent F15-Kernels? > > i prepare this machine for play wireless-ap and what is much more > worse currently in our company is running a openvpn-server with F14 > using brdige-utils which should be upgraded soon to F15 >

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 02:06:51AM +0100, Björn Persson wrote: > Gregory Maxwell wrote: > > Can someone help me understand whats being asked for here? I can only > > guess that I'm not the only person confused by this thread. > > Icons. The only thing I can see that Giovanni has mentioned that Pac

2.6.41.2-1.fc15.x86_64: missing bridge support?

2011-11-27 Thread Reindl Harald
is there something missing in recent F15-Kernels? i prepare this machine for play wireless-ap and what is much more worse currently in our company is running a openvpn-server with F14 using brdige-utils which should be upgraded soon to F15 [root@srv-rhsoft:~]$ /usr/sbin/brctl addbr br0 add bridge

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Björn Persson
Giovanni Campagna wrote: > We also need translations (that are in .desktop files > but not in .spec files), Looky here, a spec file with translations: http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=mine_detector.git;a=blob;f=mine_detector.spec;h=294bcf4148789afb1ba7bb7b11971e231e001061;hb=master Making

Re: Just Patched Kmess 2.0.6.1 :)

2011-11-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/27/2011 03:01 AM, Manuel Escudero wrote: > > Ok, Just reported the bug at bugzilla explaining everything about the > problem > and leaving a link to the patched RPM's in the description of the bug, also > attached the patch I used to fix the problem into the filed bug so you guys > can fix

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/27/2011 09:20 PM, Bernd Stramm wrote: > > I think this is going a little far. Saying that people are better off > being able to read is not elitist. Yes it is. Because you are assuming that it is because people have trouble reading. I can read just fine but I would love to have screensho

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 21:00:45 +0530 Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 11/27/2011 08:31 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > > > > Am 27.11.2011 14:31, schrieb Rahul Sundaram: > >> On 11/27/2011 07:01 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> > >>> well, if people who not going to read any textes are the primary > >>> ta

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/27/2011 08:48 PM, Heiko Adams wrote: >> > And a "software center" is IMHO walking in the wrong direction. The > packagemanagement system is Linux biggest advantage for normal users. Do you understand that software centre is just a UI on top of the package manager + additional metadata like

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/27/2011 08:31 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 27.11.2011 14:31, schrieb Rahul Sundaram: >> On 11/27/2011 07:01 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >>> well, if people who not going to read any textes are the primary >>> target of a operationg system this world is going down >> >> Welcome to the r

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Giovanni Campagna
Il giorno dom, 27/11/2011 alle 16.18 +0100, Heiko Adams ha scritto: > Am 27.11.2011 16:01, schrieb Reindl Harald: > > > > > > Am 27.11.2011 14:31, schrieb Rahul Sundaram: > >> On 11/27/2011 07:01 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> > >>> well, if people who not going to read any textes are the > >>> p

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Heiko Adams
Am 27.11.2011 16:01, schrieb Reindl Harald: > > > Am 27.11.2011 14:31, schrieb Rahul Sundaram: >> On 11/27/2011 07:01 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >>> well, if people who not going to read any textes are the >>> primary target of a operationg system this world is going down >> >> Welcome to the

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 27.11.2011 14:31, schrieb Rahul Sundaram: > On 11/27/2011 07:01 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> well, if people who not going to read any textes are the primary >> target of a operationg system this world is going down > > Welcome to the real world. i know and it is sad enough as it is now b

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/27/2011 07:01 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > well, if people who not going to read any textes are the primary > target of a operationg system this world is going down Welcome to the real world. Rahul -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/l

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Giovanni Campagna
Il giorno ven, 25/11/2011 alle 17.31 -0600, Rex Dieter ha scritto: > Giovanni Campagna wrote: > > > Long long ago (march 2009), a package was proposed for inclusion, which > > contained application data, in a format understood by software-center, > > for fedora at that time. This package was initi

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Giovanni Campagna
Il giorno sab, 26/11/2011 alle 10.05 +0530, Rahul Sundaram ha scritto: > On 11/26/2011 04:33 AM, Giovanni Campagna wrote: > > > I hope that some people from the relevant group will point me to the > > right place (perhaps starting from what happened to > > fedora-app-install...), and I hope you li

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Giovanni Campagna
Il giorno dom, 27/11/2011 alle 03.08 -0500, Aleksandar Kurtakov ha scritto: > [...] > > > IIRC and think about the same package - this was a package containing data > that is part of repos metadata, > without any idea how it would be for kept uptodate with latest packages. From > time to time

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Giovanni Campagna
Il giorno dom, 27/11/2011 alle 02.06 +0100, Björn Persson ha scritto: > Gregory Maxwell wrote: > > Can someone help me understand whats being asked for here? I can only > > guess that I'm not the only person confused by this thread. > > Icons. The only thing I can see that Giovanni has mentioned t

PHP 5.4 as Fedora 17 feature ?

2011-11-27 Thread Remi Collet
PHP 5.4 enter RC stage So, I'm working to upgrade all the PHP stack (for now in my testing repo) I think PHP 5.4.0 (finale/stable) will be available for fedora 17, so I plan to update it (and all C extension before fedora 17 feature freeze) Do you think I should submit a feature proposal ? http:

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 02:26:44 +0100, Jan Kratochvil wrote: (3) He is not going to wait for installation of new games to try them. He wants to just click and run the game - like he does with Flash games, immediately. I have no problem running there: yum --setopt 'group_package_type

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-27 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - > From: "Giovanni Campagna" > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 1:03:27 AM > Subject: A software center for Fedora > > As promised in my previous mail, here is what I find that's lacking > in > Fedora, compared to the direct compe