On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 05:32:27PM -0500, Bryan Quigley wrote:
> It's worth noting that the following already appear to "rolling" components:
> LibreOffice
>
> They are all upgraded to the latest stable version, quite regularly for the
> currently stable supported release (F16), and I believe for
On 25/01/2012 3:47 PM, Nathanael Noblet wrote:
I'd be interested in a rolling release iff updates weren't disruptive.
Considering each release usually comes with *some* issues. Sometimes
regular updates has issues (for example eclipse updates regularly
causes me issues - no hard feelings). Howe
On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 21:47:09 -0700
Nathanael Noblet wrote:
> On 01/24/2012 06:30 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > I dont think there is a massive user base waiting for a rolling
> > release really. Rolling release automatically implies a level of
> > disruption periodically everytime a major compone
On 01/25/2012 03:56 AM, Ric Wheeler wrote:
One thing that drove me nuts with my thinkpad was its trusted computing
module. The TCM driver polls (sometimes for minutes) which looks like a
hang until you go into the BIOS and configure it to hide the part
completely.
Turning it off made it much mo
On 01/24/2012 06:30 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
I dont think there is a massive user base waiting for a rolling release
really. Rolling release automatically implies a level of disruption
periodically everytime a major component is bumped up. Esp for binary
distros, this isn't that great a user exp
On 01/24/2012 04:53 PM, mike cloaked wrote:
> Having looked at the way releasing packages and versions in linux has
> been moving in a number of distributions it is interesting that there
> are several that now have a rolling-release model.
>
> Three of these are:
>
> Debian CUT:
> http://www.omg
Mo Morsi wrote:
> On 01/24/2012 04:50 AM, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote:
>> Hi,
>> since we finally got our Ruby 1.9.3 feature page [1] approved, we are
>> starting rebuild for Ruby 1.9.3. Everyone who owns a package that depends
>> on Ruby or Rubygems should rebuild it in the special Koji target
>> "f17-
Bryan Quigley wrote:
> It's worth noting that the following already appear to "rolling"
> components:
> Linux Kernel
> Firefox (forced by upstream policies)
> LibreOffice
> Wine
The funny thing is that Firefox and OpenOffice.org used to be the examples
(along with GNOME) brought up by the propone
On 01/24/2012 04:50 AM, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote:
Hi,
since we finally got our Ruby 1.9.3 feature page [1] approved, we are starting rebuild
for Ruby 1.9.3. Everyone who owns a package that depends on Ruby or Rubygems should
rebuild it in the special Koji target "f17-ruby". This target will be mer
Le mardi 24 janvier 2012 23:28:48, Kevin Kofler a écrit :
> Alain Portal wrote:
> > Kicad doesn't build with gcc-4.7 and I don't understand anything with c++.
> > Can somebody help me?
> >
> > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=3730441
> > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/d
Le mardi 24 janvier 2012 23:18:37, Richard Shaw a écrit :
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Alain Portal wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Kicad doesn't build with gcc-4.7 and I don't understand anything with c++.
> > Can somebody help me?
> >
> > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=3730441
>
It's worth noting that the following already appear to "rolling" components:
Linux Kernel
Firefox (forced by upstream policies)
LibreOffice
Wine
They are all upgraded to the latest stable version, quite regularly for the
currently stable supported release (F16), and I believe for older supported
r
Alain Portal wrote:
> Kicad doesn't build with gcc-4.7 and I don't understand anything with c++.
> Can somebody help me?
>
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=3730441
> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2011-December/160723.html
> http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.
Outage: Server reboots for systems - 2012-01-27 04:00 UTC
There will be an outage starting at 2012-01-27 04:00 UTC, which will
last approximately 2 hours.
To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto
or run:
date -d '2012-01-27 04:
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Alain Portal wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Kicad doesn't build with gcc-4.7 and I don't understand anything with c++.
> Can somebody help me?
>
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=3730441
> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2011-December/160723.htm
mike cloaked wrote:
> Arch has an extensive wiki and a lot of very helpful forums including
> a valuable announce forum
>
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Main_Page
> https://bbs.archlinux.org/
> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewforum.php?id=24
If you like what Arch is doing so much, why don't
mike cloaked wrote:
> That way once installed there is no need to maintain and test updates
> specifically for the current release. As an overall workload would
> this actually be any more effort than the constant stream of testing
> for the "two" current releases - as an overall picture?
Of cour
Hi,
Kicad doesn't build with gcc-4.7 and I don't understand anything with c++.
Can somebody help me?
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=3730441
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2011-December/160723.html
http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=29131
Regards,
Alai
https://fedorahosted.org/389/ticket/52
https://fedorahosted.org/389/attachment/ticket/52/0001-Trac-Ticket-52-FQDN-set-to-nsslapd-listenhost.patch
Fix description: Added a code to check netaddr is duplicated or
not. When the address is IPv4-mapped-IPv6, cut the IPv4 part
out of the address and u
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 07:13:03AM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
> Or perhaps better asked, what
> about rawhide makes it
> unsuitable for use as a rolling Fedora release?
The rpm packages in Rawhide are not signed.
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mike cloaked wrote:
> So how did Arch Linux cope with that particular set of changes? I
> suppose Arch Linux collapsed never to recover? I think not!
There are 2 ways rolling release distros handle this kind of transition:
a) They just push it. That leaves you with e.g. your desktop being upgra
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On 24/01/12 21:08, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>
>> I don't think it makes sense for an individual to drive this forward
>> without
>> any sort of consensus.
>>
>> Kevin Kofler
>>
>
> I disagree, in a manner.
> Not necessarily drive forward.
>
On 24/01/12 21:08, Kevin Kofler wrote:
I don't think it makes sense for an individual to drive this forward without
any sort of consensus.
Kevin Kofler
I disagree, in a manner.
Not necessarily drive forward.
But at least have a presentaion ready.
With some facts, some analysis, some
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Rich Megginson wrote:
> On 01/24/2012 02:06 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
>>
>> On 24/01/12 20:52, David wrote:
>>
>>> A question please? Two related ones actually.
>>>
>>> What are you going to name your rolling Linux release? And when can we
>>> expect to see it?
>>>
>
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On 24/01/12 20:52, David wrote:
>
>> A question please? Two related ones actually.
>>
>> What are you going to name your rolling Linux release? And when can we
>> expect to see it?
>>
>> :-)<<< notice this.
>>
>
> Rooling rooling rooling Rawh
On 01/24/2012 02:06 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
On 24/01/12 20:52, David wrote:
A question please? Two related ones actually.
What are you going to name your rolling Linux release? And when can we
expect to see it?
:-)<<< notice this.
Rooling rooling rooling Rawhde
+1
/me hands Frank a w
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Jef Spaleta wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:13 AM, mike cloaked wrote:
>> So how did Arch Linux cope with that particular set of changes? I
>> suppose Arch Linux collapsed never to recover? I think not!
>
> It would behoove the argument you are making if you
Genes MailLists wrote:
> Moving any large change has challenges - whether periodic or rolling.
>
> In that sense, they are no different - both can be a PITA.
>
> However, in a rolling model you have the advantage of it being the
> -only- change you need to do .. which is far less an issue t
On 24/01/12 20:52, David wrote:
A question please? Two related ones actually.
What are you going to name your rolling Linux release? And when can we
expect to see it?
:-)<<< notice this.
Rooling rooling rooling Rawhde
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On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 8:52 PM, David wrote:
>
> A question please? Two related ones actually.
>
> What are you going to name your rolling Linux release? And when can we
> expect to see it?
>
> :-) <<< notice this.
Of course the decision about a name would be a really huge discussion!
But if
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:13 AM, mike cloaked wrote:
> So how did Arch Linux cope with that particular set of changes? I
> suppose Arch Linux collapsed never to recover? I think not!
It would behoove the argument you are making if you could write up the
summary of how Arch handles technology s
On 1/24/2012 3:13 PM, mike cloaked wrote:
> Again - how on earth did Arch Linux survive it - and did the arch
> users desert that distro in large numbers as a result? I don't think
> so.
A question please? Two related ones actually.
What are you going to name your rolling Linux release? And
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 8:11 PM, Genes MailLists wrote:
> Moving any large change has challenges - whether periodic or rolling.
>
> In that sense, they are no different - both can be a PITA.
>
> However, in a rolling model you have the advantage of it being the
> -only- change you need to do .
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> mike cloaked wrote:
>> Is there any support at all within the development community for a
>> rolling release version of Fedora (and possibly ulitimately Redhat)?
>
> No. We've had this discussion many times. It just doesn't work.
>
> There are
On 01/24/2012 02:59 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>
> But a fully rolling release just cannot work (and this is also why all those
> "just use Rawhide if you want the latest", "usable Rawhide" etc. suggestions
> are fundamentally flawed). Yes, there are distros doing this, but they all
> have one th
mike cloaked wrote:
> Is there any support at all within the development community for a
> rolling release version of Fedora (and possibly ulitimately Redhat)?
No. We've had this discussion many times. It just doesn't work.
There are changes like KDE 4 or GNOME 3 which can't just be pushed as an
On 01/24/2012 05:36 AM, Frederic Muller wrote:
On 01/24/2012 06:16 PM, Greg wrote:
On 24/01/2012 5:11 PM, Frederic Muller wrote:
Hi!
Some may remember I was struggling with my old (but faithful) T60 and
rawhide because of poor performance and increased heat. I have
therefore upgraded my hardwa
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 02:09:37PM -0500, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 04:20:16PM +0100, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
> > WHAT TO EXPECT: nothing should break because of ifAlias. But if something
> > goes wrong, let me wrong, I will flip default switch to off in our unit
> > file.
>
The lightweight tag 'perl-List-MoreUtils-0.33-1.fc17' was created pointing to:
4ed7cee... Update to 0.33
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On 01/24/2012 06:23 AM, mike cloaked wrote:
Having looked at the way releasing packages and versions in linux has
been moving in a number of distributions it is interesting that there
are several that now have a rolling-release model.
I have some systems that were upgraded across multiple Fedor
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 04:20:16PM +0100, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
> WHAT TO EXPECT: nothing should break because of ifAlias. But if something
> goes wrong, let me wrong, I will flip default switch to off in our unit
> file.
How does this affect lldpad and why do we have both it and ladvd?
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Le Mar 24 janvier 2012 16:03, Rahul Sundaram a écrit :
> On 01/24/2012 08:21 PM, Mark Bidewell wrote:
>
>>
>> Recommended Cycles for major upgrades for each group:
>> 1) User - As soon as possible.
>> 2) System - 6 months.
>> 3) Core - 12-18 months.
>
> Problem is that, it is often the case that 1
On 01/24/2012 06:15 PM, Dave Cross wrote:
On 01/24/2012 04:28 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 01/24/2012 03:45 PM, Marcela Mašláňová wrote:
So called "red-hat perl" is popular again on Perl porters. I guess if
you have any proposals about Perl packaging, now it's the best time to
say so.
The main
Am 24.01.2012 17:37, schrieb Michal Schmidt:
> On 01/24/2012 05:17 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> when i see that services which was not converted to systemd
>> needs features which were not available with the systemd
>> of F15 this is a clear sign that systemd was NOT ready for
>> a GA release
>
>
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On 01/24/2012 05:17 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
when i see that services which was not converted to systemd
needs features which were not available with the systemd
of F15 this is a clear sign that systemd was NOT ready for
a GA release
That missing feature is "PathExistsGlob=", isn't it?
So the s
commit db3d15fef2c3453e346ec538a3e0d01dde6880e5
Author: Petr Písař
Date: Tue Jan 24 17:37:15 2012 +0100
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perl-DateTime-Format-DateParse.spec | 43 ++-
sources |3 +-
3
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So called "red-hat perl" is popular again on Perl porters. I guess if
you have any proposals about Perl packaging, now it's the best time to
say so.
The main problem is that 'yum install perl' doesn't install whole Perl
tarball.
It should not. It
On 24/01/12 16:21, Johannes Lips wrote:
YAWN!
Please don't, I've got Narcolepsy.
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On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>
> Am 24.01.2012 17:07, schrieb Michal Schmidt:
> >> this is BAD because the version in F15 was a really EARLY state
> >> services for F16 like cups rely on systemd-features that do NOT
> >> exist in F15 - so you have no chance conver
Am 24.01.2012 17:07, schrieb Michal Schmidt:
>> this is BAD because the version in F15 was a really EARLY state
>> services for F16 like cups rely on systemd-features that do NOT
>> exist in F15 - so you have no chance converting sysv to systemd
>> in an easy way on your F15 installation
>
> I d
On 01/24/2012 04:53 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 24.01.2012 15:48, schrieb Rahul Sundaram:
You are ridding on thin ice here. systemd gets many many updates.
Claiming that it doesnt receive proper attention is very much
unsubstantiated. I think you should go back on this claim.
where are they
On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 16:53:32 +0100
Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>
> Am 24.01.2012 15:48, schrieb Rahul Sundaram:
> > On 01/24/2012 08:09 PM, Genes MailLists wrote:
> >> On 01/24/2012 09:08 AM, Michal Schmidt wrote:
> >>> On 01/24/2012 02:13 PM, Genes MailLists wrote:
> Fedora suffers an addit
Am 24.01.2012 15:48, schrieb Rahul Sundaram:
> On 01/24/2012 08:09 PM, Genes MailLists wrote:
>> On 01/24/2012 09:08 AM, Michal Schmidt wrote:
>>> On 01/24/2012 02:13 PM, Genes MailLists wrote:
Fedora suffers an additional problem it seems - not only are there
large changes as part o
On 01/24/2012 03:39 PM, Genes MailLists wrote:
On 01/24/2012 09:08 AM, Michal Schmidt wrote:
On 01/24/2012 02:13 PM, Genes MailLists wrote:
Fedora suffers an additional problem it seems - not only are there
large changes as part of many releases, but lately some of them
immediately stop bei
On 01/24/2012 08:54 PM, Mark Bidewell wrote:
>
> 1) I don't think that many changes in the user section would rely
> heavily on new libraries. (Firefox 9 and Libreoffice both run fine on
> Ubuntu 10.04 LTS which is almost 2 years old).
Only if they bundle libraries.
Rahul
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On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 01/24/2012 08:21 PM, Mark Bidewell wrote:
>
>>
>> Recommended Cycles for major upgrades for each group:
>> 1) User - As soon as possible.
>> 2) System - 6 months.
>> 3) Core - 12-18 months.
>
> Problem is that, it is often the case that
Hi,
WHO MAY BE AFFECTED: people, who installed "ladvd" voluntarily. It is not
installed by default.
WHAT IS LADVD: it is a small daemon, using low-level ethernet mechanisms to
learn how switches are connected. It implements CDP protocol, LLDP protocol
and few others. By default it sends
Hi,
My name is Rudy Sicard. I submitted a review request 781624 (one week
ago but freshly updated) and I am seeking a sponsor.
I work for a company named MLstate (.mlstate.com).
We have created a language to simplify web development, named Opa
(opalang.org) which is available with an AGPL
On 01/24/2012 08:21 PM, Mark Bidewell wrote:
>
> Recommended Cycles for major upgrades for each group:
> 1) User - As soon as possible.
> 2) System - 6 months.
> 3) Core - 12-18 months.
Problem is that, it is often the case that 1) requires updates in 2) and
sometimes even 3)
Rahul
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I have used Fedora, Ubuntu, and Arch. I believe the ideal is a
combination of the three
1) A pure rolling release like Arch, upgrades packages when they are
stable without regard to external impacts. The early adoption of
Python 3 in Arch broke many packages and took awhile to fix.
2) Ubuntu ha
On 01/24/2012 08:09 PM, Genes MailLists wrote:
> On 01/24/2012 09:08 AM, Michal Schmidt wrote:
>> On 01/24/2012 02:13 PM, Genes MailLists wrote:
>>>Fedora suffers an additional problem it seems - not only are there
>>> large changes as part of many releases, but lately some of them
>>> immediat
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 6:23 AM, mike cloaked wrote:
> Having looked at the way releasing packages and versions in linux has
> been moving in a number of distributions it is interesting that there
> are several that now have a rolling-release model.
>
> Three of these are:
>
> Debian CUT:
> http:/
commit 024d1acbb1e2ac4a252ed7aaf37ce2ddd02305b5
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you have any proposals about Perl packaging, now it's the best time to
say so.
The main problem is that 'yum install perl' doesn't install whole Perl
tarball.
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On 24/01/12 14:31, Frank Murphy wrote:
How can the "--bugfixes" possibly work when there are no updates
metadata in Rawhide?
Michal
We'll it doesn't throw an error.
So no idea.
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On 01/24/2012 09:08 AM, Michal Schmidt wrote:
> On 01/24/2012 02:13 PM, Genes MailLists wrote:
>>Fedora suffers an additional problem it seems - not only are there
>> large changes as part of many releases, but lately some of them
>> immediately stop being supported until the 'next big release'
commit e04b4535159e5f99565e5092b562be4e8e00cfd5
Author: Marcela Mašláňová
Date: Tue Jan 24 15:31:18 2012 +0100
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sources |2 +-
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On 24/01/12 14:05, Michal Schmidt wrote:
On 01/24/2012 01:44 PM, mike cloaked wrote:
I've been doing this a while,
F16 yum --releasever=17 update --bugfixes --exclude=fedora-release*
How can the "--bugfixes" possibly work when there are no updates
metadata in Rawhide?
Michal
We'll it doesn'
- Original Message -
> Am 24.01.2012 13:18, schrieb Bohuslav Kabrda:
> >
> > Hi,
> > I think that you should follow the two guidelines that I mentioned
> > in one of my previous mails: [1], [2].
> >
> > Therefore, you should use something like:
> > Provides: django-debug-toolbar = %{version
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On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 07:13:03AM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
> > Is there any support at all within the development community for a
> > rolling release version of Fedora (and possibly ulitimately Redhat)?
> > Is there a possibility that not moving to rolling release could
> > ultimately damage Fedor
Am 24.01.2012 13:18, schrieb Bohuslav Kabrda:
Hi,
I think that you should follow the two guidelines that I mentioned in one of my
previous mails: [1], [2].
Therefore, you should use something like:
Provides: django-debug-toolbar = %{version}-%{release}
Obsoletes: django-debug-toolbar< 0.9.3-1
On 01/24/2012 02:13 PM, Genes MailLists wrote:
Fedora suffers an additional problem it seems - not only are there
large changes as part of many releases, but lately some of them
immediately stop being supported until the 'next big release' - which
makes fedora far less reliable and desirable -
On 01/24/2012 01:44 PM, mike cloaked wrote:
I've been doing this a while,
F16 yum --releasever=17 update --bugfixes --exclude=fedora-release*
How can the "--bugfixes" possibly work when there are no updates
metadata in Rawhide?
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2012/1/24 Genes MailLists :
> On 01/24/2012 07:13 AM, Josh Boyer wrote:
>
>>
>> How is rawhide not a rolling release? Or perhaps better asked, what
>> about rawhide makes it
>> unsuitable for use as a rolling Fedora release?
>
> Actually it is totally unsuitable for a stable rolling release.
>
>
On 01/23/2012 09:39 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
systemd 37 didn't have a problem booting. I suppose the
large number of errors slows udev start down so much that it hits some
kind of timeout in 38 that isn't in 37, maybe?
v38 introduced the journal and removed the old systemd-kmsg-syslogd
brid
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 6:24 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:23:14AM +, mike cloaked wrote:
>> Fedora would appear to be out of line in not taking on board the
>> potential user base for a rolling release version. For servers there
>> would be huge advantages in man
On 01/24/2012 01:24 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:23:14AM +, mike cloaked wrote:
Fedora would appear to be out of line in not taking on board the
potential user base for a rolling release version. For servers there
would be huge advantages in management of systems
On 01/24/2012 07:13 AM, Josh Boyer wrote:
>
> How is rawhide not a rolling release? Or perhaps better asked, what
> about rawhide makes it
> unsuitable for use as a rolling Fedora release?
Actually it is totally unsuitable for a stable rolling release.
A rolling release, as most mean it th
On 24/01/12 12:41, mike cloaked wrote:
This was meant as a discussion in the desirability or otherwise of the
concept of rolling release.Of course manpower is required to make it
happen.
Desirability and manpower can't be seperated in some situations.
This being one. page to the sig\wiki sugge
On 01/24/2012 07:24 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:23:14AM +, mike cloaked wrote:
>> Fedora would appear to be out of line in not taking on board the
>> potential user base for a rolling release version. For servers there
>> would be huge advantages in management of
On 24/01/12 12:24, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:23:14AM +, mike cloaked wrote:
Fedora would appear to be out of line in not taking on board the
potential user base for a rolling release version. For servers there
would be huge advantages in management of systems.
I
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On 24/01/12 12:30, mike cloaked wrote:
>
>> The number of problems that have been reported to the lists for yum
>> upgrades seems very large. Although for any rolling release there
>> have been occasions where unforeseen problems have arisen
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On 24/01/12 12:22, Thomas Moschny wrote:
>>
>> 2012/1/24 Josh Boyer:
>>>
>>> How is rawhide not a rolling release? Or perhaps better asked, what
>>> about rawhide makes it
>>> unsuitable for use as a rolling Fedora release?
>>
>>
>> This has
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On 24/01/12 12:30, mike cloaked wrote:
The number of problems that have been reported to the lists for yum
upgrades seems very large. Although for any rolling release there
have been occasions where unforeseen problems have arisen the day to
day updates have been largely routine and trouble fre
commit 2af8ddcf3b463c269b52e750c55c0786458e63c8
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On 24/01/12 12:22, Thomas Moschny wrote:
2012/1/24 Josh Boyer:
How is rawhide not a rolling release? Or perhaps better asked, what
about rawhide makes it
unsuitable for use as a rolling Fedora release?
This has been discussed several times on this list: Technically,
rawhide is a rolling relea
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
>> Fedora would appear to be out of line in not taking on board the
>> potential user base for a rolling release version. For servers there
>> would be huge advantages in management of systems.
>
> Can you list what advantages there are over do
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:23:14AM +, mike cloaked wrote:
> Fedora would appear to be out of line in not taking on board the
> potential user base for a rolling release version. For servers there
> would be huge advantages in management of systems.
I doubt your claims here.
Fedora already ha
2012/1/24 Josh Boyer :
> How is rawhide not a rolling release? Or perhaps better asked, what
> about rawhide makes it
> unsuitable for use as a rolling Fedora release?
This has been discussed several times on this list: Technically,
rawhide is a rolling release, sure. But rawhide is not near as s
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> On 18/01/12 14:47, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote:
>
> >>
> >
> > Well, if I understand it correctly, the Python packaging guidelines
> > say, that the Python 2 modules should be named python-* and Python
> > 3 modules python3-*, so I would go with that (although I agree th
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 6:23 AM, mike cloaked wrote:
> Having looked at the way releasing packages and versions in linux has
> been moving in a number of distributions it is interesting that there
> are several that now have a rolling-release model.
>
> Three of these are:
>
> Debian CUT:
> http:/
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