Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Less Brittle Kerberos

On 01/31/2013 10:35 PM, Kurt Seifried wrote: > Can't reply on the wiki page, FAS is throwing a 500 server error when I > try to log in. > > > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Jaroslav Reznik > wrote: > > = Features/LessBrittleKerberos = > https://fedoraproject

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: QXL/Spice KMS Driver

> On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 11:52 +, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > = Features/QXLKMSSupport = > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/QXLKMSSupport > > > > Feature owner(s): Alon Levy > > > > Currently the QXL driver is X.org only, a KMS driver is required to > > move > > forward with projects

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Less Brittle Kerberos

On 01/31/2013 07:57 PM, Ken Dreyer wrote: > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: >> Kerberos clients can optionally verify reverse DNS records for services that >> they connect to as a way of trying to identify which realm they belong to. >> However in many cases these do not ex

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: OpenAttestation

Wei, Gang (gang@intel.com) said: > > If you're attempting to create a framework that attests the integrity > > of systems for use by 'trusted' software, it would (in theory) only be as > > secure as its weakest link. Given that... PHP? > > I am not sure whether PHP is the weakest link, but th

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 02:39:56PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 01/31/2013 02:04 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > >And it's the same situation as with MariaDB and MySQL. Fedora is going to > >prefer MariaDB (FESCo stated it clearly yesterday) - so we should try to make > >an effort to sup

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:46:33PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > And in the midst of me doing this research I have to have Bill > Notting butting into my work ( and I know what that means ), trying > to come up with his own list instead of simply asking me for the one > I was looking at [

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: firewalld Rich Language

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 12:56:18PM +, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > = Features/FirewalldRichLanguage = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/FirewalldRichLanguage > > Feature owner(s): Thomas Woerner > > This feature adds a rich (high level) language to firewalld, that > allows to easily crea

RE: Proposed F19 Feature: OpenAttestation

Josh Boyer wrote on 2013-02-01: > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Wei, Gang wrote: >> Bill Nottingham wrote on 2013-01-29: >>> Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said: = Features/OpenAttestation = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/OpenAttestation Feature owner(s): Gan

Re: polkit changes in f19

Peter Robinson (pbrobin...@gmail.com) said: > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 6:57 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > I just realized that there is a change to the way polkit is packaged in f19 > > that spin maintainers should be aware of: the polkit package is just the > > service, which only provides the

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

Hi On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 7:53 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > I'm not seeing asking you to stay out of this is an unreasonable request > nor this being a public mailinglist has anything to do with that request > after you stated you had no proposal. > > I guess I must still be confused...

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

On 02/01/2013 12:31 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 6:46 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: Then stay out of this. I don't think that is a reasonable request. This is a public mailing list after all. I'm not seeing asking you to stay out of this is an unreaso

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

Hi On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 6:46 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > Then stay out of this. > I don't think that is a reasonable request. This is a public mailing list after all. Rahul -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

On 01/31/2013 07:27 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:32 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: Have fun with your proposals and implementing them just dont mix the cron migration up with the timer units ( which has been there from the get go )... You seem confu

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: CUPS 1.6

On Jan 30, 2013, at 7:13 PM, Benjamin De Kosnik wrote: > >> Quality evaluation needs test targets/documents, and eyeballs. > > I think you mean "trained eyeballs" above. I guess in some cases that's useful. But surprisingly a lot is tested without anyone looking. If they had, they'd have ha

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 21:17 +0100, drago01 wrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: The proposal explicitly says that it doesn't envisage including OO on any images or in any default install configurations, simply adding it as an option in the packa

Re: polkit changes in f19

On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 6:57 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: > I just realized that there is a change to the way polkit is packaged in f19 > that spin maintainers should be aware of: the polkit package is just the > service, which only provides the default policy as specified in the action > definit

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 16:36:57 -0500 Bill Nottingham wrote: > Martin Sourada (martin.sour...@gmail.com) said: > > > I'm an Ambassador and this proposal is confusing me. > > > We have LibreOffice in our repositories; I think that bring back > > > Apache OpenOffice generates only confusion between u

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On 01/31/2013 08:40 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 21:17 +0100, drago01 wrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 14:20 +0100, Robert Mayr wrote: I think that's not the point, one of the two suites will be dominant and you can't pr

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: NetworkManager Bridging Support

On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 16:41 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said: > > = Features/NetworkManagerBridging = > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NetworkManagerBridging > > > > Feature owner(s): Pavel Šimerda , Dan Williams > > > at redhat dot com> > >

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

On 01/31/2013 07:18 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 17:32 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: On 01/31/2013 05:12 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:27 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: I'm the one that has been looking into the benefit from which

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:06:17 +0100 Marina Latini wrote: > Maybe a power user is able to understand the main differences between > LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice but, what about newbie users? If they can install their preferred suite on Windows why not on GNU/Linux? People would be more confused

[Bug 906461] wrong default pidfile in /etc/clamd.d/amavisd.conf

Product: Fedora EPEL https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=906461 --- Comment #4 from Robert Moskowitz --- For me it is the opposite. Do a 'service clamd status' and 'service clamd.amavis status' and see what you get. I installed amavisd-new clamav clamav-devel clamd & spamassassin I use

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Trusted Network Connect (TNC)

On 01/29/2013 05:28 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: Avesh Agarwal (avaga...@redhat.com) said: Right now it is done using wpa_supplicant provided cli. Just to clarify a little bit further, wpa_supplicant provided cli takes care of authentication and tnc's end point assessment. Once it is done, NM or

[Bug 906461] wrong default pidfile in /etc/clamd.d/amavisd.conf

Product: Fedora EPEL https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=906461 --- Comment #3 from Steven Roberts --- Interesting. I show both in chkconfig, but I have clamd disabled in chkconfig and clamd.amavis enabled and that is the one that is running and I restart. definitely sounds like some do

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

Once upon a time, Adam Williamson said: > The proposal explicitly says that it doesn't envisage including OO on > any images or in any default install configurations, simply adding it as > an option in the package repositories. Putting on my mirror admin fedora, I would point out that OO is not a

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: NetworkManager Bridging Support

Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said: > = Features/NetworkManagerBridging = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NetworkManagerBridging > > Feature owner(s): Pavel Šimerda , Dan Williams at redhat dot com> > > NetworkManager should be able to configure bridge interfaces with commonl

Re: polkit changes in f19

Matthias Clasen wrote: > I just realized that there is a change to the way polkit is packaged in > f19 that spin maintainers should be aware of: the polkit package is just > the service, which only provides the default policy as specified in the > action definitions now. If you want or need suppor

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

Martin Sourada (martin.sour...@gmail.com) said: > > I'm an Ambassador and this proposal is confusing me. > > We have LibreOffice in our repositories; I think that bring back > > Apache OpenOffice generates only confusion between users, not freedom > > of choice. > > > The confusion is already the

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Less Brittle Kerberos

Can't reply on the wiki page, FAS is throwing a 500 server error when I try to log in. On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > = Features/LessBrittleKerberos = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/LessBrittleKerberos > > Feature owner(s): Stef Walter > > Make kerberos in

Re: Command line arguments depend on locale

Matthias Clasen writes: > Until you put a pipe between and turn the outputs of command a into > inputs of command b... People will generally be aware that output is locale-dependent. That is most of the point of having locales at all. Setting LC_ALL=C is not a nice option. That would mean that

Re: Command line arguments depend on locale

On 01/31/2013 06:01 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: - Original Message Right, output should be locale specific. Input command line args... seems specious. Until you put a pipe between and turn the outputs of command a into inputs of command b... It's a fair point. I.E. I/O doesn't ro

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

> Is it? > > http://blog.mariadb.org/explanation-on-mariadb-10-0/ and > http://blog.mariadb.org/mariadb-10-0-and-mysql-5-6/ seem to suggest that > MariaDB will no longer be following Mysql as religiously as the feature > suggests > > > I'd still say yes since the context of this discussion is mysql

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 21:17 +0100, drago01 wrote: > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 14:20 +0100, Robert Mayr wrote: > > > >> I think that's not the point, one of the two suites will be dominant > >> and you can't provide both of them on a live imag

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

> The proposal explicitly says that it doesn't envisage including OO on > any images or in any default install configurations, simply adding it as > an option in the package repositories. > > > Regardless of that I'm not sure what it really brings to the table compared to LibreOffice... Looking at

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 14:20 +0100, Robert Mayr wrote: > >> I think that's not the point, one of the two suites will be dominant >> and you can't provide both of them on a live image for example. >> LibreOffice was introduced to our live ima

Re: Command line arguments depend on locale

Matthias Clasen (mcla...@redhat.com) said: > - Original Message > > > > Right, output should be locale specific. Input command line args... > > seems > > specious. > > Until you put a pipe between and turn the outputs of command a into inputs of > command b... But, as said earlier, it

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 18:02 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 31.01.2013 17:56, schrieb Miloslav Trmač: > > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Reindl Harald > > wrote: > >> Am 31.01.2013 17:43, schrieb Miloslav Trmač: > >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 5:37 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" > >>> wrote: >

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 16:17 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 01/31/2013 04:03 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:49:11 + > > "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > > >> On 01/31/2013 03:24 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > >>> proposal: clearly state that fedora prefers mariadb?

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

Hi On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:32 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > Have fun with your proposals and implementing them just dont mix the cron > migration up with the timer units ( which has been there from the get go > )... > You seem confused. I don't have any proposals Rahul -- devel m

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 16:03 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Le Mer 30 janvier 2013 19:07, Bill Nottingham a écrit : > > it's wasteful in terms of builds and updates for users to be > > updating all of systemd just to add a new French keymap conversion, > > esp. since users want their keyboard to

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 17:32 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 01/31/2013 05:12 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > > Hi > > > > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:27 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > > > > I'm the one that has been looking into the benefit from which > > component and of which

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: AnacondaNewUI Followup

On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 09:24 -0500, Scott Schmit wrote: > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 02:15:31PM +, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > = Features/AnacondaNewUI Followup = > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/AnacondaNewUI_Followup > > > Will the issues with shrinking partitions also be resolved? (c

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 14:20 +0100, Robert Mayr wrote: > I think that's not the point, one of the two suites will be dominant > and you can't provide both of them on a live image for example. > LibreOffice was introduced to our live images and we hit target 1GB, > do you really think it could be us

[Bug 906461] wrong default pidfile in /etc/clamd.d/amavisd.conf

Product: Fedora EPEL https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=906461 Steven Roberts changed: What|Removed |Added CC||strob...@strobe.net

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Less Brittle Kerberos

On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > Kerberos clients can optionally verify reverse DNS records for services that > they connect to as a way of trying to identify which realm they belong to. > However in many cases these do not exist. Kerberos should fall back to it's > defaul

polkit changes in f19

I just realized that there is a change to the way polkit is packaged in f19 that spin maintainers should be aware of: the polkit package is just the service, which only provides the default policy as specified in the action definitions now. If you want or need support for js rules, you need to p

Re: Command line arguments depend on locale

On 01/30/2013 11:05 PM, Benny Amorsen wrote: Apparently ping has now started interpreting its command line arguments depending on locale. I.e. ping -i 0.1 no longer works in locales where comma is the decimal separator. This makes it difficult to call system commands. The only workaround is to s

Re: Command line arguments depend on locale

- Original Message > > Right, output should be locale specific. Input command line args... > seems > specious. Until you put a pipe between and turn the outputs of command a into inputs of command b... -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/

Re: using rpms for non-root installs

Michael Stahnke wrote: ls zip-3.0-1.el6.x86_64.rpm mkdir $HOME/.myrpm cp -pr /var/lib/rpm/* $HOME/.myrpm/ chown -R $USER $HOME/.myrpm/ rpm -Uvh --justdb --dbpath $HOME/.myrpm zip-3.0-1.el6.x86_64.rpm rpm2cpio < zip-3.0-1.el6.x86_64.rpm | cpio -idmv rpm -q --dbp

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: CUPS 1.6

> I updated that section, hopefully the filter pipeline is now more > understandable. Thanks Jiri. I'll try your packages on F18, with these docs, and give you some more constructive feedback. -benjamin -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailm

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

Hi On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > i do not need to read any theory > Apparently you do since your claim was entirely incorrect. > and why have you stripped the relevant part below? > If you use unversioned obsoletes and rebuilt your own package, that is a problem yo

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

On 01/31/2013 05:12 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:27 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > I'm the one that has been looking into the benefit from which component and of which cron job it would be useful for migrating to >systemd timer units and that's totally irrele

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

Hi On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:27 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > I'm the one that has been looking into the benefit from which component and of which cron job it would be useful for migrating to >systemd timer units and that's totally irrelevant to that feature as I mentioned to FESCO but

Re: Command line arguments depend on locale

On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:43:44AM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > C locale and not do locale dependent parsing. It would be much more > > robust and if you are good enough to use the -i switch you probably know > > how to type 0.1 instead of 0,1 (or whatever format is in your locale) as > > well

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

Am 31.01.2013 17:56, schrieb Miloslav Trmač: > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> Am 31.01.2013 17:43, schrieb Miloslav Trmač: >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 5:37 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" >>> wrote: On 01/31/2013 04:38 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > That would be the de

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

Am 31.01.2013 17:43, schrieb Miloslav Trmač: > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 5:37 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" > wrote: >> On 01/31/2013 04:38 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 16:30:30 + >>> "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: >>> On 01/31/2013 04:30 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 31.01.2013 17:43, schrieb Miloslav Trmač: >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 5:37 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" >> wrote: >>> On 01/31/2013 04:38 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: That would be the default between MariaDB and Mysql. Which are (at le

[Bug 906461] New: wrong default pidfile in /etc/clamd.d/amavisd.conf

Product: Fedora EPEL https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=906461 Bug ID: 906461 Summary: wrong default pidfile in /etc/clamd.d/amavisd.conf Product: Fedora EPEL Version: el6 Component: amavisd-new Severity: low Priori

Re: review swap: rubygems related packages

Brendan Jones wrote, at 01/31/2013 11:47 PM +9:00: On 01/31/2013 01:32 PM, Mamoru TASAKA wrote: Hello, all: I have some packages related to rubygems ready for review and I would like to swap reviews. Each package is small and should not take so much time. rubygem-levenshtein https://bugzilla.r

Re: Command line arguments depend on locale

Simo Sorce (s...@redhat.com) said: > > You should *always* set LC_ALL=C when running an external command from > > another program (and most probably from a shell script too). > > Except when you shouldn't ... > > If you are getting arguments that are locale dependent changing the > locale will d

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 5:37 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 01/31/2013 04:38 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> >> On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 16:30:30 + >> "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: >> >>> On 01/31/2013 04:30 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: I don't see how a distribution default would make any

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On 01/31/2013 04:38 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 16:30:30 + "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: On 01/31/2013 04:30 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: I don't see how a distribution default would make any sense. I guess that's as senseless to you as it is for me fesco decision of make maria

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 16:34:45 + "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > I see I cannot maintain a spin in the distribution identical to Gnome > but with Apache office instead of libreoffice. Sure you can. Knock yourself out. However, Feature deadline is past now, so it would likely have to be a f

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On 01/31/2013 05:30 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 01/31/2013 04:30 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> I don't see how a distribution default would make any sense. > > I guess that's as senseless to you as it is for me fesco decision of make > mariadb to be preferred "default" is to me... Fedora

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On 01/31/2013 04:32 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 16:19:08 + "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: On 01/31/2013 04:06 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 12:31:37 + "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: What's the end game with this proposal since we already moved away >fro

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 16:30:30 + "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 01/31/2013 04:30 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > I don't see how a distribution default would make any sense. > > I guess that's as senseless to you as it is for me fesco decision of > make mariadb to be preferred "default" is to

Re: Ruby based bsfilter packager wanted!

Mamoru TASAKA wrote, at 01/31/2013 09:20 PM +9:00: Hello: Michael Schwendt wrote, at 01/31/2013 07:58 PM +9:00: Hello everyone! Is there any existing packager (or a new one without an account yet) with interest in becoming the Fedora packager for the following script, which is written in Ruby?

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On 01/31/2013 04:30 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: I don't see how a distribution default would make any sense. I guess that's as senseless to you as it is for me fesco decision of make mariadb to be preferred "default" is to me... JBG -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admi

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 16:19:08 + "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 01/31/2013 04:06 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 12:31:37 + > > "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > > >> >What's the end game with this proposal since we already moved away > >> >from openoffice to libreoffi

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

On 01/31/2013 04:23 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:51:45 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: I would be tempted to say: "Anything running at a core system level where a dependence on a separate cron daemon may be unwanted (or a bad idea) should be migrated, and nothing el

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: OpenAttestation

On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Wei, Gang wrote: > Bill Nottingham wrote on 2013-01-29: >> Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said: >>> = Features/OpenAttestation = >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/OpenAttestation >>> >>> Feature owner(s): Gang Wei >>> >>> Provide fedora packages f

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 16:17:24 + "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > Ok I'll open a ticket requesting postgresql being the distribution > default database of chose. For what? We can't force upstream projects to support postgresql if they don't already. I personally vastly prefer postgres as w

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:51:45 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: I would be tempted to say: "Anything running at a core system level where a dependence on a separate cron daemon may be unwanted (or a bad idea) should be migrated, and nothing else for now until we have a clearer perspective on t

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On 01/31/2013 04:06 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 12:31:37 + "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: >What's the end game with this proposal since we already moved away >from openoffice to libreoffice which caused enough confusion for our >end user base? end game is both libreoffice a

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On 01/31/2013 04:03 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:49:11 + "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: On 01/31/2013 03:24 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: proposal: clearly state that fedora prefers mariadb?(for now) passed +7 -0 That "for now" is just based on the fact that there no longer

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: QXL/Spice KMS Driver

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 08:12:28 -0800 Adam Williamson wrote: > I thought the feature deadline was yesterday; are we on late features > now? The deadline was yesterday to have your feature submitted. I think the wrangler has been spreading them out a bit to avoid dumping them all at once into the

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

Am 31.01.2013 15:39, schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: > On 01/31/2013 02:04 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: >> And it's the same situation as with MariaDB and MySQL. Fedora is going to >> prefer MariaDB (FESCo stated it clearly yesterday) - so we should try to make >> an effort to support MariaDB and no

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

On 01/31/2013 03:51 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: I would be tempted to say: "Anything running at a core system level where a dependence on a separate cron daemon may be unwanted (or a bad idea) should be migrated, and nothing else for now until we have a clearer perspective on the future." Give

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Developers Assistant

Jan Zelený (jzel...@redhat.com) said: > > Does this go all the way into "libraries you should use" and "libraries you > > shouldn't"? > > Well, that's slightly advanced topic but I think we can arrange something > like > advanced section on the Developers' portal. > > Is this already somewhere

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Trusted Network Connect (TNC)

On 01/31/2013 11:10 AM, Dan Williams wrote: On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 17:28 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: Avesh Agarwal (avaga...@redhat.com) said: Right now it is done using wpa_supplicant provided cli. Just to clarify a little bit further, wpa_supplicant provided cli takes care of authentication

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: QXL/Spice KMS Driver

On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 11:52 +, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > = Features/QXLKMSSupport = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/QXLKMSSupport > > Feature owner(s): Alon Levy > > Currently the QXL driver is X.org only, a KMS driver is required to move > forward with projects like spice 3D, and

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Trusted Network Connect (TNC)

On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 17:28 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Avesh Agarwal (avaga...@redhat.com) said: > > >Right now it is done using wpa_supplicant provided cli. > > > > Just to clarify a little bit further, wpa_supplicant provided cli > > takes care of authentication and tnc's end point assessme

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 12:31:37 + "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > What's the end game with this proposal since we already moved away > from openoffice to libreoffice which caused enough confusion for our > end user base? end game is both libreoffice and apache openoffice available in the repos

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:47:08 + "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 01/31/2013 02:11 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > And Calligra is default on Plasma spin. If someone chooses to > > create AOO spin (or any replacement we will have like formulas) - > > and choose it as default on that spin and

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:49:11 + "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 01/31/2013 03:24 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > > proposal: clearly state that fedora prefers mariadb?(for now) > > passed +7 -0 > > That "for now" is just based on the fact that there no longer is no > one maintaining the packa

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

Colin Walters (walt...@verbum.org) said: > On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 14:30 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > > This is interesting, in that it's a feature that's occasionally requested > > by various users and administrators. However, this is rather limited in > > that only systemd stuff is using it

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On 01/31/2013 03:24 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: proposal: clearly state that fedora prefers mariadb?(for now) passed +7 -0 That "for now" is just based on the fact that there no longer is no one maintaining the package in Fedora right? Which begs the question why has it not been orphaned and p

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

Marcela Mašláňová (mmasl...@redhat.com) said: > I would say that work even before. If I should say according to > number of bugs, not many users were using specific SElinux contexts > for cronjob tasks. > > No objection to this feature, it might be very powerful for some > use-cases. I'm afraid o

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Re: Command line arguments depend on locale

On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 09:07 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:05:16AM +0100, Benny Amorsen wrote: > > This makes it difficult to call system commands. The only workaround is > > to set LC_ALL to a known-good locale, but then your users get no benefit > > from the transla

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 3:39 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > "Fedora is going to prefer MariaDB (FESCo stated it clearly yesterday)" > > It did now? Yes it did, I'm afraid the short-form minutes don't contain it. The precise text is: proposal: clearly state that fedora prefers mariadb?(for

Re: Command line arguments depend on locale

On 31 January 2013 15:04, Ian Malone wrote: > On 31 January 2013 09:07, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:05:16AM +0100, Benny Amorsen wrote: >>> This makes it difficult to call system commands. The only workaround is >>> to set LC_ALL to a known-good locale, but then your u

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: NetworkManager Bridging Support

- Original Message - > Is the scope of this feature intended to cover both traditional > (brctl) > bridges and Open vSwitch (i.e. ovs-vsctl, ...) bridges? Nope. We just support standard linux bridging (plus plain old bonding). > Both types of > bridging are supported by plugins for openst

Re: Command line arguments depend on locale

On 31 January 2013 09:07, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:05:16AM +0100, Benny Amorsen wrote: >> This makes it difficult to call system commands. The only workaround is >> to set LC_ALL to a known-good locale, but then your users get no benefit >> from the translations of er

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

Le Mer 30 janvier 2013 19:07, Bill Nottingham a écrit : > it's wasteful in terms of builds and updates for users to be > updating all of systemd just to add a new French keymap conversion, esp. since users want their keyboard to work the same in gui and the console, so putting the keymaps in sys

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On 01/31/2013 02:11 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: And Calligra is default on Plasma spin. If someone chooses to create AOO spin (or any replacement we will have like formulas) - and choose it as default on that spin and he will maintain it and users will use it - it's Fedora. Last time I checked f

Re: review swap: rubygems related packages

On 01/31/2013 01:32 PM, Mamoru TASAKA wrote: Hello, all: I have some packages related to rubygems ready for review and I would like to swap reviews. Each package is small and should not take so much time. rubygem-levenshtein https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=891970 rubygem-gobject-int

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Marina Latini wrote: > Hi all, > I'm an Ambassador and this proposal is confusing me. > We have LibreOffice in our repositories; I think that bring back > Apache OpenOffice generates only confusion between users, not freedom > of choice. > > LibreOffice is under bi

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On 01/31/2013 02:04 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: And it's the same situation as with MariaDB and MySQL. Fedora is going to prefer MariaDB (FESCo stated it clearly yesterday) - so we should try to make an effort to support MariaDB and not for example force users to use both just to run system. But o

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: CUPS 1.6

On 01/29/2013 07:10 PM, Benjamin De Kosnik wrote: 4) In the past, I've found it difficult to debug cups filters step by step. Especially with so many rasterization/filter changes. As part of the move to 1.6, will things like: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_printing_problems be updat

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