Re: Requiring package test instructions (was: Re: Too fast karma on Bodhi updates)

On Wed, 2016-07-13 at 11:08 +0530, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 10:26:20PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > It would not be 'a lot of work', it would be a gigantic, totally > > unsustainable burden. I honestly think you're shooting *way* too high > > here. Even with all

Re: F25 Self Contained Change: Rust Compiler

On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 06:18:17 +0200 Jan Kurik wrote: > = Proposed Self Contained Change: Rust Compiler = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RustCompiler > > Change owner(s): > * Josh Stone > > Introduce packages for the Rust compiler and its Cargo build system. > > > == Detailed Descrip

headsup: ghc-7.10.3 went into Rawhide

Hi! On behalf of the Fedora Haskell SIG, I am happy to announce that finally GHC 7.10 (7.10.3) has gone into Rawhide for F25. This is a new major release (though ghc-8.0.1 is already out for a little time now). The push comes also with a bunch of version updates including pandoc-1.17. You can re

Re: Requiring package test instructions (was: Re: Too fast karma on Bodhi updates)

On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 10:26:20PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > It would not be 'a lot of work', it would be a gigantic, totally > unsustainable burden. I honestly think you're shooting *way* too high > here. Even with all the recent volunteers, we have like a couple dozen I agree it is a massi

Re: Requiring package test instructions (was: Re: Too fast karma on Bodhi updates)

On Wed, 2016-07-13 at 10:55 +0530, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: > An individual wanting to get started in Fedora packaging has to prove > their competence and understanding of the packaging guidelines by > commenting on package review requests in addition to submitting their > own package for review.

Re: Requiring package test instructions (was: Re: Too fast karma on Bodhi updates)

On Wed, 2016-07-13 at 08:21 +0530, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 03:45:54PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > Bodhi works at the source package level, not binary package level. > > I think Jon's point was with respect to the scope of testing. With > glibc (or libstdc++

Re: Requiring package test instructions (was: Re: Too fast karma on Bodhi updates)

On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 09:12:25PM -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > Instead of concentrating on testers, what about the packagers who don't > even test their > applications before throwing them over the wall to bodhi. I've seen > packages that didn't even > get past a simple dnf requisite test becaus

F25 Self Contained Change: Rust Compiler

= Proposed Self Contained Change: Rust Compiler = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RustCompiler Change owner(s): * Josh Stone Introduce packages for the Rust compiler and its Cargo build system. == Detailed Description == In the project's own words, "Rust is a systems programming languag

Re: Requiring package test instructions (was: Re: Too fast karma on Bodhi updates)

On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 7:47 PM, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: > ... which is not enough. The definition of 'generally functional' is > vague, as all of us agree and we have seen examples of that being > misused in the past. Requiring devel to document their packages is > one step forward and requi

Re: i686 as secondary arch?

> On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Richard W.M. Jones > wrote: >> >> Timely article in the Register today: >> >> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/07/05/linux_letting_go_32bit_builds_on_the_way_out/ >> >> I've been thinking about this as i686 is so often broken that

Re: Requiring package test instructions

On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 09:23:26PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > nonsense - it's enough to give a sign that a potential fix don't break > things wich worked before Your point is valid without saying 'nonsense', so please be a bit more civil. I can live with a karma +1 for sanity tests if testing

Re: i686 as secondary arch?

On Tue, Jul 05, 2016 at 09:45:29AM -0400, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On 5 July 2016 at 06:46, Florian Weimer wrote: > > On 07/05/2016 11:09 AM, Adrian Reber wrote: > >> > >> On Tue, Jul 05, 2016 at 10:04:03AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > >>> > >>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Richard W.M.

Re: Requiring package test instructions (was: Re: Too fast karma on Bodhi updates)

On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 03:45:54PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > Bodhi works at the source package level, not binary package level. I think Jon's point was with respect to the scope of testing. With glibc (or libstdc++ that Jon would be concerned with), an ideal set of sanity tests would cover

Re: Requiring package test instructions (was: Re: Too fast karma on Bodhi updates)

On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 12:16:59PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > This is setting far too high a bar for a project like Fedora. We take > the feedback we can get, we are not in a position to demand all update > testers perform comprehensive testing of all possible facets of an > update. It is alwa

Re: Fixing /.autorelabel

On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 11:47:56AM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Sat, 09.07.16 21:18, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (zbys...@in.waw.pl) wrote: > > > On Sat, Jul 09, 2016 at 05:52:52PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 08, 2016 at 11:50:19AM -0400, Przemek Klosowski wrote: >

Re: F25 Self Contained Change: GNS3

On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 11:04:53PM +0200, Jan Kurik wrote: > = Proposed Self Contained Change: GNS3 = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GNS3 > > Change owner(s): > *Athmane Madjoudj > > Graphical Network Simulator 3 > > > == Detailed Description == > GNS3 is a graphical network simulato

Re: Requiring package test instructions (was: Re: Too fast karma on Bodhi updates)

On Tue, 2016-07-12 at 23:32 +0100, Jonathan Wakely wrote: > On 12/07/16 16:26 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > > Some packages are definitely going to be harder than others... > > For example, a libfoo, and its libfoo-devel subpackage. Bodhi works at the source package level, not binary package l

Re: Requiring package test instructions (was: Re: Too fast karma on Bodhi updates)

On Tue, 2016-07-12 at 16:26 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Tue, 12 Jul 2016 09:49:14 -0700 > Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > So I've been discussing this with various people in the last few days, > > and one specific idea has come out of that which I'd like to float. > > > > We've been hesitan

Re: Requiring package test instructions (was: Re: Too fast karma on Bodhi updates)

On 12/07/16 16:26 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: Some packages are definitely going to be harder than others... For example, a libfoo, and its libfoo-devel subpackage. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Requiring package test instructions (was: Re: Too fast karma on Bodhi updates)

On Tue, 12 Jul 2016 09:49:14 -0700 Adam Williamson wrote: > So I've been discussing this with various people in the last few days, > and one specific idea has come out of that which I'd like to float. > > We've been hesitant to suggest this before as we thought packagers > might not like the ide

F25 Self Contained Change: GNS3

= Proposed Self Contained Change: GNS3 = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GNS3 Change owner(s): *Athmane Madjoudj Graphical Network Simulator 3 == Detailed Description == GNS3 is a graphical network simulator that allows you to design complex network topologies. You may run simulations o

Re: Requiring package test instructions (was: Re: Too fast karma on Bodhi updates)

On Wed, 2016-07-13 at 00:18 +0530, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 11:38:01AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > This isn't really correct, because there is no simple relationship > > between 'bugs claimed to be fixed actually are fixed' and 'update > > should be released'.

Re: Requiring package test instructions (was: Re: Too fast karma on Bodhi updates)

On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 11:38:01AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > This isn't really correct, because there is no simple relationship > between 'bugs claimed to be fixed actually are fixed' and 'update > should be released'. Both of these are possible: > > 1) an update which fixes the bugs it clai

Re: Requiring package test instructions (was: Re: Too fast karma on Bodhi updates)

On Tue, 2016-07-12 at 23:57 +0530, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 09:49:14AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > To be clear, the idea would be to have general-purpose instructions for > > basic functionality testing of each package, not requiring new 'how to > > test' text

Re: F25 System Wide Change: KillUserProcesses=yes by default

On 07/12/2016 06:15 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: That's hardly useful, as "screen" alone is useless as it's just a frontend to other programs (such as a shell that is run inside the "screen" instance), and if we kill those, then "screen" doesn't need to be around either... Right---the entire pro

Re: Fedora Rawhide-20160712.n.0 compose check report

On Tue, 2016-07-12 at 12:18 +, Fedora compose checker wrote: > Missing expected images: > > Server dvd i386 > Server boot x86_64 > Server dvd x86_64 > Cloud_base raw-xz x86_64 > Cloud_base raw-xz i386 > Server boot i386 > Atomic raw-xz x86_64 > Kde raw-xz armhfp > Minimal raw-xz armhfp > > Fa

Re: Requiring package test instructions (was: Re: Too fast karma on Bodhi updates)

On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 09:49:14AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > To be clear, the idea would be to have general-purpose instructions for > basic functionality testing of each package, not requiring new 'how to > test' text to be written for every individual package update, > specifically tailored

Re: Requiring package test instructions (was: Re: Too fast karma on Bodhi updates)

2016-07-12 10:49 GMT-06:00 Adam Williamson : > On Sun, 2016-07-10 at 21:30 +0530, Sayan Chowdhury wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I recently packaged and pushed an update for > fedmsg-meta-fedora-infrastructure > > to bodhi and exactly 40 secs[1] later I got a +1 to the update. I am > sure that > > testing

Requiring package test instructions (was: Re: Too fast karma on Bodhi updates)

On Sun, 2016-07-10 at 21:30 +0530, Sayan Chowdhury wrote: > Hi, > > I recently packaged and pushed an update for fedmsg-meta-fedora-infrastructure > to bodhi and exactly 40 secs[1] later I got a +1 to the update. I am sure that > testing a package surely takes more than 40 secs. This makes me real

Re: Fedora retirement guidelines

On 3 June 2016 at 09:31, Jaroslav Mracek wrote: > > > But I just had a user bitten by a change in behaviour between dnf and yum > > that was discovered here: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1096506 > > > > The Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1096506 has a high > pr

Re: Too fast karma on Bodhi updates

"Gerald B. Cox" writes: > It's very simple to control whether something is pushed automatically, and > it's also easy > to control the amount of karma required for the automatic push. Yes, I edited it. > Not only > is it documented, it is in the file you > modify when submitting the update. Yo

Re: F25 System Wide Change: KillUserProcesses=yes by default

I have KillUserProcesses=yes set in Fedora 24 for some time now. I'm noticing that I still often have 90 second delays if I restart or shutdown, more than half the time. If I log out, I always get fast log outs, and more often than not a restart/shutdown from the login window is also fast. So there

Re: Update python to 2.7.12

On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 8:47 AM, Charalampos Stratakis wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Planning to update python to 2.7.12 for rawhide and Fedora 24. Would anyone > like the update also for Fedora 23? If possible, it'd be nice to have it on F23... -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! -

Update python to 2.7.12

Hello everyone, Planning to update python to 2.7.12 for rawhide and Fedora 24. Would anyone like the update also for Fedora 23? Regards, Charalampos Stratakis -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

poppler soname bump in rawhide

Hi, I plan to rebase poppler in rawhide to poppler-0.45.0 next week. There are several API changes and soname bump of the base library libpoppler.so.*. I've prepared a scratch build of poppler-0.45.0 against which you can test your packages. You can find the build here: http://koji.fedoraprojec

Fedora Rawhide-20160712.n.0 compose check report

Missing expected images: Server dvd i386 Server boot x86_64 Server dvd x86_64 Cloud_base raw-xz x86_64 Cloud_base raw-xz i386 Server boot i386 Atomic raw-xz x86_64 Kde raw-xz armhfp Minimal raw-xz armhfp Failed openQA tests: 5/13 (x86_64), 1/2 (i386) ID: 25150 Test: x86_64 Workstation-live

Re: g++ __VA_ARGS__ error

On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 2:22 PM, Jonathan Wakely wrote: > On 11/07/16 13:16 +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 02:09:24PM +0200, Jan Synacek wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I'm trying to compile the latest version of Warzone2100 on rawhide, >>> but I'm getting this error:

ARM, inlining failed in call to always_inline '[...]': target specific option mismatch

Hi libwebp-0.5.1 fails to build on ARM with error messages such as gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../../src/webp -DNDEBUG -fvisibility=hidden -Wall -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wextra -Wfloat-conversion -Wformat -Wformat-nonliteral -Wformat -Wformat-security -Wmissing-declarations -Wmissing-prot

Re: F25 System Wide Change: KillUserProcesses=yes by default

On Sat, 09.07.16 21:20, Nico Kadel-Garcia (nka...@gmail.com) wrote: > > In either case it will be up to FESCO to decide and set guidelines on > > implementation and for us grognards to either deal with the change or > > go find an OS we can be happier in. > > It looks to me like the critical chan

Re: Package Reviews Statistics

On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 5:01 AM, Parag Nemade wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 7:05 PM, Igor Gnatenko > wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 3:18 PM, Raphael Groner > > wrote: > >> Can that information be used to award badges? There's an old open issue > to implement badges for doing pack

Re: F25 System Wide Change: KillUserProcesses=yes by default

On Sat, 09.07.16 17:09, Ben Rosser (rosser@gmail.com) wrote: > On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 4:56 PM, Chris Murphy > wrote: > > > I think this needs to be rethought. The options right now are, modify > > an as yet unknown quantity of background programs so they aren't > > killed on user logout; vs

Re: Fixing /.autorelabel

On Sat, 09.07.16 21:18, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (zbys...@in.waw.pl) wrote: > On Sat, Jul 09, 2016 at 05:52:52PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 08, 2016 at 11:50:19AM -0400, Przemek Klosowski wrote: > > > On 07/07/2016 04:59 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > >On Wed, Jul 06,

Re: Fixing /.autorelabel

On Sat, 09.07.16 17:52, Richard W.M. Jones (rjo...@redhat.com) wrote: > On Fri, Jul 08, 2016 at 11:50:19AM -0400, Przemek Klosowski wrote: > > On 07/07/2016 04:59 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > >On Wed, Jul 06, 2016 at 02:52:34PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > > >wrote: > > > > > >>That

Re: Fixing /.autorelabel

On Sat, 09.07.16 05:31, Peter Robinson (pbrobin...@gmail.com) wrote: > >> >>That patch is the answer to the (repeated) bug reports that relabelling > >> >>fails if enforcing=1 and the labels are sufficiently messed up. > >> >>Doing the relabel in permissive mode, without ever going to enforcing >

ppisar pushed to perl-Gearman-Server (f24). "Mandatory Perl build-requires added "

From 01e5331b1602693a7c96c9a3bbfe39d2ca30c53a Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: =?UTF-8?q?Petr=20P=C3=ADsa=C5=99?= Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 10:07:04 +0200 Subject: Mandatory Perl build-requires added --- perl-Gearman-Server.spec | 1 +

Re: infinispan rights

On 12/07/16 10:07, gil wrote: i need some right for this package https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/rpms/infinispan/ can give it to me? That page itself tells you - fnasser can, as the administrator for that package, give you the rights. I see you have already requested the ACL

infinispan rights

hi i need some right for this package https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/rpms/infinispan/ can give it to me? Is required for upgrade some packages for import Wildfly 10+ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/WildFly thanks in advance regards .g -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedorap

Re: iphone mount in nautilus on Fedora 24

- Original Message - > > > On 07/11/2016 07:33 AM, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > > > > - Original Message - > >>> On 07/09/2016 12:04 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: > > In older Fedora (at least Fedora 22) I could easily mount my ihphone > > in Nautilus. I could click on it i

F25 Self Contained Change: Change/Remove slogin and sshd-keygen

= Proposed Self Contained Change: Change/Remove slogin and sshd-keygen = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Remove_slogin_and_sshd-keygen Change owner(s): * Jakub Jelen slogin, a legacy symlink to ssh, will be removed. sshd-keygen, a legacy Fedora init script, will be removed. == Detailed D

jgroups rights

hi i need some right for this package https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/rpms/jgroups/ can give it to me? Is required for upgrade some packages for import Wildfly 10+ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/WildFly thanks in advance regards .g -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproje

Re: Re: F25 Self Contained Change: IBus Emoji Typing

On 07/12/16 17:05, nicolas.mail...@laposte.net-san wrote: - Mail original - De: "pravin d s" I am more inclined and use control+shift+e, since normally with one sentence i use one emoji. It is tricky to implement since ctrl(gr)+shift+letter is already used in some layouts, so the

Nautilus doesn't always update the number of files count

Hello, Nautilus, in some cases, doesn't update the number of files count in the "size" column in the list view. Here is the use case that I'm aware that show it : - Open Nautilus in your /home, create a file with "touch" in a terminal in the "Downloads" folder, the count is not updated for the "

Re: Too fast karma on Bodhi updates

hi Sayan (and other folks), thanks for your work with my packages regards .g Il 12/07/2016 08:27, Sayan Chowdhury ha scritto: On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Buvanesh Kumar wrote: Hi Sayan, I have tested your package and verified it in Fedora 24 release. It works fine. Thanks for push

Re: Re: F25 Self Contained Change: IBus Emoji Typing

- Mail original - De: "pravin d s" > I am more inclined and use control+shift+e, since normally with one > sentence i use one emoji. It is tricky to implement since ctrl(gr)+shift+letter is already used in some layouts, so the emoji shortcut must avoid stomping on this and only trigge

REMINDER: Changes submission deadline for Self Contained Changes of Fedora 25 is today

Hi everyone! Today we have the last day we will accept proposals for Self Contained Changes for Fedora 25 release. Alpha release is currently planned on August, the 23rd with Alpha Freeze two weeks earlier. In case you'll need any help with your Change proposals, feel free to contact me. [1] htt