Minimization Team Meeting notes 2019-08-21

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2019-08-21/minimization.2019-08-21-15.00.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2019-08-21/minimization.2019-08-21-15.00.txt Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2019-08-21/minimization.2

Modular packages requiring Python 3.7

The following Fedora 30 modular packages require python(abi) = 3.7: $ repoquery --repo=updates-modular --whatrequires 'python(abi) = 3.7' meson-0:0.50.1-1.module_f30+3966+49c83da1.noarch python3-aexpect-0:1.5.1-5.module_f30+4307+91f2a6b8.noarch python3-pygit2-0:0.27.4-1.module_f30+2959+693db98d.x

Re: Package commit right, how to remove youself?

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 04:55:39PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > I wonder, how does a packager remove themselves from a package, if they have > commit rights only. The obvious way (going trough Settings), is not possible > (no Settings). This is a known short-coming of pagure that we'll need to add

Re: fedora-gpg-keys not updated yet again

On 8/19/19 6:59 AM, Pavel Raiskup wrote: > On Monday, August 19, 2019 10:50:52 AM CEST Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: >> Can we *please* send out the FN+1 and FN+2 keys a month before branching, >> to *all* releases of Fedora, so we can avoid this pointless scramble? > > What about to have F

Re: Fedora Atomic Host Two Week Release Announcement: 29.20190820.0

On 8/21/19 5:46 AM, Normand wrote: > > > On 8/20/19 7:56 PM, nore...@fedoraproject.org wrote: >> We are releasing images from multiple architectures but please note >> that x86_64 architecture is the only one that undergoes automated >> testing at this time. > > Is there wiki pages that descri

Re: gsl soname bump

On 8/21/19 4:11 AM, Jerry James wrote: I am happy to see a gsl update, but ... On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 1:48 PM Susi Lehtola wrote: Triggering rebuilds of the following affected packages ... python-cvxopt You didn't build this into the python 3.8 side tag, so now it is going to have to be b

Re: a f31 branched compose is syncing...

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Re: [HEADS UP] Fedora 32 Python 3.8 rebuilds have started in a side tag

On 15. 08. 19 0:18, Miro Hrončok wrote: Hello, in order to deliver Python 3.8, we are running a coordinated rebuild in a side tag.     https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Python3.8 If you see a "Rebuild for Python 3.8" commit in your package, please don't rebuild it in regular rawhide. I

nothing provides pkgconfig(egl) needed by qt5-qtbase-devel

I'm hit by the above error in rawhide. Is this expected or unexpected failure? -- Miro Hrončok -- Phone: +420777974800 IRC: mhroncok ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject

Re: [HEADS UP] Fedora 32 Python 3.8 rebuilds have started in a side tag

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019, 19:31 Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 15. 08. 19 0:18, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > Hello, in order to deliver Python 3.8, we are running a coordinated > rebuild in a > > side tag. > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Python3.8 > > > > If you see a "Rebuild for Python 3.8

Re: nothing provides pkgconfig(egl) needed by qt5-qtbase-devel

On Wed, 21 Aug 2019, Miro Hrončok wrote: I'm hit by the above error in rawhide. Is this expected or unexpected failure? I just filed https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1744292 But it may be expected? https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/mesa/c/845287db528a3cd8f5c879c53a28a1dcb2aa00e8?

Re: nothing provides pkgconfig(egl) needed by qt5-qtbase-devel

On Wed, 21 Aug 2019, Scott Talbert wrote: I'm hit by the above error in rawhide. Is this expected or unexpected failure? I just filed https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1744292 But it may be expected? https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/mesa/c/845287db528a3cd8f5c879c53a28a1dcb2aa00e8

Re: nothing provides pkgconfig(egl) needed by qt5-qtbase-devel

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019, 21:13 Scott Talbert wrote: > On Wed, 21 Aug 2019, Scott Talbert wrote: > > >> I'm hit by the above error in rawhide. > >> > >> Is this expected or unexpected failure? > > > > I just filed https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1744292 > > > > But it may be expected? > >

Re: nothing provides pkgconfig(egl) needed by qt5-qtbase-devel

On Wed, 21 Aug 2019, Fabio Valentini wrote: >> I'm hit by the above error in rawhide. >> >> Is this expected or unexpected failure? > > I just filed https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1744292 > > But it may be expected? >https://src

Re: Bug 1742953 - No Screensaver/Powerdown after Inactivity at LUKS Password Prompt [FutureFeature]

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 1:35 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > On 21.08.2019 4:59, Chris Murphy wrote: > > The very > > simple work around for the computer shutting off in 3 minutes of > > inactivity and you don't like that? > > 1. Such unpredicted shutdown can damage headers of LUKS-encrypte

Re: nothing provides pkgconfig(egl) needed by qt5-qtbase-devel

Miro Hrončok wrote: > I'm hit by the above error in rawhide. > > Is this expected or unexpected failure? Since all qtbase really needs is the egl headers (and not pkgconfig specifically), I went ahead and changed the dependency from pkgconfig(egl) to libEGL-devel instead. -- Rex

Re: What does this koji error mean?

On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 2:56 PM Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > > > "C" == Christopher writes: > > C> BuildError: package thrift is > C> blocked for tag f32-updates-candidate > C> (https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=37187038) > > It means that thrift has been blocked in koji.

Re: Bug 1742953 - No Screensaver/Powerdown after Inactivity at LUKS Password Prompt [FutureFeature]

On 8/20/19 11:15 PM, John Harris wrote: There is no significant fire risk from this. It's just not good for the laptop. There's not exactly a temperature range that can cause damage, but there is a nominal range for each individual chip, and a nominal range for the entire system based on that.

Re: nothing provides pkgconfig(egl) needed by qt5-qtbase-devel

Rex Dieter wrote: > Miro Hrončok wrote: > >> I'm hit by the above error in rawhide. >> >> Is this expected or unexpected failure? > > Since all qtbase really needs is the egl headers (and not pkgconfig > specifically), I went ahead and changed the dependency from > pkgconfig(egl) > to > libEGL-

Re: Bug 1742953 - No Screensaver/Powerdown after Inactivity at LUKS Password Prompt [FutureFeature]

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 2:22 PM Przemek Klosowski via devel wrote: >I think Fedora should optimize > for laptops/desktops, so if we had to chose one default I would vote for > sleep, or shutdown if sleep was not available. The default could be predicated on systemd chassis attribute. > but it's

Re: Join the new Minimization Team

On Wednesday, August 21, 2019 2:00:07 AM MST Tomasz Torcz wrote: > On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 10:52:18PM -0700, John Harris wrote: > > > Having a container without a package manager sounds like the worst > > possible thing to add to an already poorly implemented solution. In > > reality, containers,

RE: No longer supporting mailing lists:

On Wednesday, August 21, 2019 7:32:06 AM MST you wrote: > [quote="JohnMH, post:4, topic:2184, full:true"] > If you’re deadset on using a Discorse subforum where nobody will find you, > would you consider bridging it to a mailing list? > [/quote] > > Without data or metrics about mailing list usage

Re: Capitalized name in bugzilla review request and pagure repo

On Wednesday, August 21, 2019 2:31:14 AM MST Dave Love wrote: > [I seem not to have sent this before.] > > Jordan Ogas via devel writes: > > > > Greetings, > > > > > > > > I believe I have an issue. Please direct me to the correct list if the > > following is not applicable here. > > > > > > >

Re: Bug 1742953 - No Screensaver/Powerdown after Inactivity at LUKS Password Prompt [FutureFeature]

On Wednesday, August 21, 2019 1:13:03 PM MST Przemek Klosowski via devel wrote: > On 8/20/19 11:15 PM, John Harris wrote: > > > There is no significant fire risk from this. It's just not good for the > > laptop. There's not exactly a temperature range that can cause damage, > > but > > there is a

Re: Bug 1742953 - No Screensaver/Powerdown after Inactivity at LUKS Password Prompt [FutureFeature]

On Wednesday, August 21, 2019 3:10:04 AM MST Ernestas Kulik wrote: > On Tue, 2019-08-20 at 07:32 -0700, John Harris wrote: > > > On Monday, August 19, 2019 2:56:58 PM MST Przemek Klosowski wrote: > > > > > the right thing to do is to suspend on inactivity > > > in all cases. > > > > > > I don

Re: Package commit right, how to remove youself?

On 21. 08. 19 18:02, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 04:55:39PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: I wonder, how does a packager remove themselves from a package, if they have commit rights only. The obvious way (going trough Settings), is not possible (no Settings). This is a known

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

On Wednesday, August 21, 2019 4:34:01 PM MST John Harris wrote: > On Wednesday, August 21, 2019 7:32:06 AM MST you wrote: > > > [quote="JohnMH, post:4, topic:2184, full:true"] > > If you’re deadset on using a Discorse subforum where nobody will find > > you, > > would you consider bridging it to a

Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2019-08-22 16:00 UTC)

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2019-08-22 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Local time information (via. uitime): = Day: Thursday == 2019-08-22 09:00 PDT US/Pacific 2019-08-22 1

Help update Hugo

Hello, Feel free to help review these packages needed to update Hugo: * 1742352 • hugo-0.57.2 is available[1] * 1743048 • Review Request: golang-github-niklasfasching-org - Org mode parser with html & pretty printed org rendering[2] * 1744238 • Review Request: golang-gi

Re: Unable to install numpy with pip in python3.8

Hi, this seems to indicate that there is an incompatibility in how numpy calls cython macros. On 8/22/19 12:38 AM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > error: macro "__Pyx_PyCode_New" requires 16 arguments, but only 15 given Actually, there already is a bug report on cython here: https://github.com/cython/cyth

Re: vdr-epg-daemon does not compile on f32

Hi, can someone tell me what I need to change so that vdr-epg-daemon can compile on f30. Attached the rpm spec file [1] in which I have already made changes for python38. [1] https://martinkg.fedorapeople.org/ErrorReports/vdr-epg-daemon/vdr-epg-daemon.spec Regards Martin _

Re: vdr-epg-daemon does not compile on f32

On 21/08/2019 08:08, Martin Gansser wrote: can someone tell me what I need to change so that vdr-epg-daemon can compile on f30. Attached the rpm spec file [1] in which I have already made changes for python38. [1] https://martinkg.fedorapeople.org/ErrorReports/vdr-epg-daemon/vdr-epg-daemon.s

Re: vdr-epg-daemon does not compile on f32

On 21/08/2019 08:30, Tom Hughes wrote: On 21/08/2019 08:08, Martin Gansser wrote: can someone tell me what I need to change so that vdr-epg-daemon can compile on f30. Attached the rpm spec file [1] in which I have already made changes for python38. [1] https://martinkg.fedorapeople.org/Erro

Re: Bug 1742953 - No Screensaver/Powerdown after Inactivity at LUKS Password Prompt [FutureFeature]

On 21.08.2019 4:59, Chris Murphy wrote: > The very > simple work around for the computer shutting off in 3 minutes of > inactivity and you don't like that? 1. Such unpredicted shutdown can damage headers of LUKS-encrypted volumes. 2. If it will be implemented, it must be an opt-in feature. -- Si

Re: vdr-epg-daemon does not compile on f32

I implemented Miro's suggestion, at least I tried. ## Add --embed flag for python 3.8 Support #if 0%{?fedora} >= 31 sed -i -e 's:$(shell python-config --libs):$(shell python3-config --libs --embed || python3-config --libs):' Makefile sed -i -e 's:$(shell pkg-config --cflags --libs jansson):$(shel

External monitor won't start working when the dock is plugged in

Hi y'all Sorry if it's not the best devel topic, but I thought that I have a best chance to find a way to fix it here. If you know of better platform where it's more suitable let me know. So, I've ran into this problem few times, and wanted to share it with you cause maybe it happen to someone he

CharLS update to 2.0.0 required (soname bump) (rhbz 1744789)

(Re-sending, got the e-mail address wrong) Hi! A new version of CharLS is out and needs to be updated in Fedora. It contains changes in API/ABI so the following will need to be rebuilt: dnf repoquery --disablerepo= --enablerepo=-source --arch=src --whatrequires CharLS-devel dcm2niix-0:1.0.20180

Non-responsive maintainer Mosaab Alzoubi

Hello all. According to non-responsive maintainer procedure for moceap, I'm asking here if anyone know how to reach out for the maintainer. RHBZ ticket: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1740611 RHBZ ticket with countdown: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1733802 -- Sincer

Re: Getting .fc32 packages while trying to follow F31 branch ?

I totally agree with you. -- Lukáš Růžička FEDORA QE, RHCE Red Hat Purkyňova 115 612 45 Brno - Královo Pole lruzi...@redhat.com TRIED AND PERSONALLY TESTED, ERGO TRUSTED. ___ devel mailing lis

Re: Join the new Minimization Team

On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 10:52:18PM -0700, John Harris wrote: > Having a container without a package manager sounds like the worst possible > thing to add to an already poorly implemented solution. In reality, > containers, regardless of what they're running, should be treated as what > they > a

Re: Bug 1742953 - No Screensaver/Powerdown after Inactivity at LUKS Password Prompt [FutureFeature]

On 19.08.2019 12:38, Dominique Martinet wrote: > LCD definitely has this issue - display the same image forever and the > pixels will remember it / you will be left with an overlay of the > previously still image. This is a known IPS displays issue, known as "ghosting". This is not a burn-in. It c

Re: Capitalized name in bugzilla review request and pagure repo

[I seem not to have sent this before.] Jordan Ogas via devel writes: > Greetings, > > I believe I have an issue. Please direct me to the correct list if the > following is not applicable here. > > My first package was recently approved, however, no one (myself included) > noticed that the bugzil

Re: Fedora Atomic Host Two Week Release Announcement: 29.20190820.0

On 8/20/19 7:56 PM, nore...@fedoraproject.org wrote: We are releasing images from multiple architectures but please note that x86_64 architecture is the only one that undergoes automated testing at this time. Is there wiki pages that describe what are those automated tests, and how/where the

Re: fedora-gpg-keys not updated yet again

More below. On 8/20/19 6:40 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On 8/20/19 7:37 AM, Petr Mensik wrote: >> Hi! >> >> I could not find a safe way to upgrade also this time. I found update >> F32 [1], but not corresponding F31 just adding new key. I am missing >> update similar to [2], just for F31 that once wa

R-core does not provide librt anymore in rawhide

Hi, I noticed this. For the same R version, fc31 and fc32 R-core packages do not provide librt.so anymore. As a consequence, R packages using real time extensions (notably, those using shared memory) cannot be loaded due to missing symbols (because they don't have an explicit -lrt). Is there a goo

Re: Bug 1742953 - No Screensaver/Powerdown after Inactivity at LUKS Password Prompt [FutureFeature]

On Tue, 2019-08-20 at 07:32 -0700, John Harris wrote: > On Monday, August 19, 2019 2:56:58 PM MST Przemek Klosowski wrote: > > the right thing to do is to suspend on inactivity > > in all cases. > > I don't think it's fair for one person to decide what the "right > thing to do" > is. This kind

Re: a f31 branched compose is syncing...

Thanks for the information Kevin A 21 de agosto de 2019 04:36:06 WEST, Kevin Fenzi escreveu: >Finally. > >Sorry for the long delay in this, but it kept hitting problem after >problem. ;( > >It is syncing now, and expect it to sync out past the master mirror >tonight. > >kevin -- Enviado a part

Re: fedora-gpg-keys not updated yet again

Dne 20. 08. 19 v 18:40 Kevin Fenzi napsal(a): > On 8/20/19 7:37 AM, Petr Mensik wrote: >> Hi! >> >> I could not find a safe way to upgrade also this time. I found update >> F32 [1], but not corresponding F31 just adding new key. I am missing >> update similar to [2], just for F31 that once was Raw

Re: Capitalized name in bugzilla review request and pagure repo

Dne 21. 08. 19 v 11:31 Dave Love napsal(a): > [I seem not to have sent this before.] > > Jordan Ogas via devel writes: > >> Greetings, >> >> I believe I have an issue. Please direct me to the correct list if the >> following is not applicable here. >> >> My first package was recently approved, ho

Re: Capitalized name in bugzilla review request and pagure repo

Vít Ondruch wrote: > Don't worry, the upper/lower case is easy to miss. Years ago, I was able > to request `vondruch` package by mistake, because there are no checks. That just strengthens his case that there need to be sanity checks in the repo creation scripts, they should not just silently cre

Re: Bug 1742953 - No Screensaver/Powerdown after Inactivity at LUKS Password Prompt [FutureFeature]

On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 08:15:21PM -0700, John Harris wrote: > There is no significant fire risk from this. It's just not good for > the laptop. There's not exactly a temperature range that can cause > damage, but there is a nominal range for each individual chip, and a > nominal range for the e

Re: Bug 1742953 - No Screensaver/Powerdown after Inactivity at LUKS Password Prompt [FutureFeature]

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 09:34:57AM +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > 1. Such unpredicted shutdown can damage headers of LUKS-encrypted volumes. We're not talking about taking the system out behind the toolshead here. Is LUKS really so brittle that 'shutdown -h now' is insufficient? > 2. I

Re: Join the new Minimization Team

On 8/21/19 5:00 AM, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 10:52:18PM -0700, John Harris wrote: >> Having a container without a package manager sounds like the worst possible >> thing to add to an already poorly implemented solution. In reality, >> containers, regardless of what they're ru

Re: Join the new Minimization Team

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019, at 7:34 AM, Daniel Walsh wrote: > I agree.  Entering a container and doing a yum update is an > Anti-pattern. This is a complex discussion - I think we need both. Personally I live inside a "pet" container using https://github.com/cgwalters/coretoolbox and I definitely `y

Minimization Objective report

This is the Minimization Objective [0] update. == Regular meeting == Team meeting every Wednesday 15:00 GMT (find it in the SIGs calendar [1]). == Discoveries == A new discoveries page [2] created that will contain random useful discoveries. It'll get structured as it fills up. Potential areas

Minimization Team Meeting notes 2019-08-14

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2019-08-14/minimization.2019-08-14-15.00.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2019-08-14/minimization.2019-08-14-15.00.txt Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2019-08-14/minimization.2

Package commit right, how to remove youself?

I wonder, how does a packager remove themselves from a package, if they have commit rights only. The obvious way (going trough Settings), is not possible (no Settings). Thanks, -- Miro Hrončok -- Phone: +420777974800 IRC: mhroncok ___ devel mailing li

Re: Join the new Minimization Team

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 09:13 Colin Walters wrote: > On Wed, Aug 21, 2019, at 7:34 AM, Daniel Walsh wrote: > >> I agree.  Entering a container and doing a yum update is an >> Anti-pattern. > > This is a complex discussion - I think we need both. Personally I > live inside a "pet" container using