Rebase of libutempter to 1.2.1

2020-07-06 Thread Tomas Korbar
Hi guys, Later today i will rebase libutempter to version 1.2.1. I checked new version with abi-compliance checker and it seems to be 100% compatible with the old one, so no rebuilds will be necessary. Although i do not expect any issues, i wanted to give you info in case that something goes wrong.

Re: dnspython 2.0.0rc1 (without Python 2 support)

2020-07-06 Thread Lumir Balhar
python-dns 2.0.0rc2 is ready in the COPR. - mailman3 FTBFS because it has missing dependencies in rawhide - python-ryu FTBFS but the problem is only in COPR (probably caused by an empty resolv.conf) and it builds fine in mock. Lumír On 6/25/20 12:30 PM, Lumir Balhar wrote: Hello. tl;dr - if

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

2020-07-06 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Jul 06, 2020 at 08:06:05PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 4:48 PM Gerald Henriksen wrote: > > So if one has a spare partition to play with btrfs, is there an easy > > way to install a second copy of Fedora without having the /boot/efi/ > > entries overwrite the existin

Re: out of Koji disk space

2020-07-06 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Fri, 03 Jul 2020 14:52:00 +0200, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > On Thu, 02 Jul 2020 02:04:48 +0200, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 11:22:26PM +0200, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > > > I will file a ticket after Spot says his opinion (or not). > > > > Sure. > > https://src.fedoraproject.org/

Re: Better Thermal Management for the Workstation - Fedora 33 Self-Contained Change proposal

2020-07-06 Thread Jared Dominguez
On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 4:53 AM Benjamin Berg wrote: > On Wed, 2020-07-01 at 11:07 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > So the last two times thermald was proposed (first as a F32 change > > proposal, then more recently to the Workstation WG) it was rejected on > > the grounds that it was not usefu

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

2020-07-06 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 5:30 PM Samuel Sieb wrote: > > On 7/6/20 4:24 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > If you mean the EFI boot manager entry, just renaming the existing one > > something other than "Fedora" ought to do the trick, I think. So far as > > /boot/efi goes...well, you have two choices. Yo

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

2020-07-06 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 4:48 PM Gerald Henriksen wrote: > > On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 14:24:37 -0400, you wrote: > > >On Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 06:54:02AM +, Zbigniew J?drzejewski-Szmek wrote: > >> Making btrfs opt-in for F33 and (assuming the result go well) opt-out for > >> F34 > >> could be good opt

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

2020-07-06 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 9:52 AM Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 01:19, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 8:40 PM Eric Sandeen wrote: > > > > > > On 7/3/20 1:41 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > > SSDs can fail in weird ways. Some spew garbage as they're failing,

yuv2png and vpxenc (webm) in fedora ?

2020-07-06 Thread J. Scheurich
Hi, Would it be ok, to create a png2vuy and vpxenc package in fedora ? With png2vuy and vpxenc it would be possible to create a webm-movie from a sequence of image files. Can the fedora firefox show a .webm file (youtube use the .webm format) ? A program, that could use png2yuv and vpxenc for mov

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

2020-07-06 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 7/6/20 4:24 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: If you mean the EFI boot manager entry, just renaming the existing one something other than "Fedora" ought to do the trick, I think. So far as /boot/efi goes...well, you have two choices. You can have the two installs share one, or have two separate ones.

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

2020-07-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2020-07-06 at 16:24 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2020-07-06 at 18:48 -0400, Gerald Henriksen wrote: > > On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 14:24:37 -0400, you wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 06:54:02AM +, Zbigniew J?drzejewski-Szmek > > > wrote: > > > > Making btrfs opt-in for F33

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

2020-07-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2020-07-06 at 18:48 -0400, Gerald Henriksen wrote: > On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 14:24:37 -0400, you wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 06:54:02AM +, Zbigniew J?drzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > > Making btrfs opt-in for F33 and (assuming the result go well) opt-out for > > > F34 > > > could be go

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-06 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Monday, July 6, 2020 3:03:05 PM MST Peter Robinson wrote: > > > It's less complex to maintain one solution for both types of boot, I'd > > > imagine. I'm not the one that'd be doing the work to support it, so far > > > be it from me to prevent somebody from doing so, but that's just what > > > i

Re: Enable EarlyOOM on Fedora KDE - Fedora 33 Self-Contained Change proposal

2020-07-06 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Monday, July 6, 2020 8:47:24 AM MST Przemek Klosowski via devel wrote: > On 7/4/20 8:18 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > > > I've never managed to get one of my own Fedora machines to the point of > > OOMing, and, when I have seen others do it, it's a problem that would > > have > > been solved b

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

2020-07-06 Thread Gerald Henriksen
On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 14:24:37 -0400, you wrote: >On Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 06:54:02AM +, Zbigniew J?drzejewski-Szmek wrote: >> Making btrfs opt-in for F33 and (assuming the result go well) opt-out for F34 >> could be good option. I know technically it is already opt-in, but it's not >> very visibl

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-06 Thread Peter Robinson
> > It's less complex to maintain one solution for both types of boot, I'd > > imagine. I'm not the one that'd be doing the work to support it, so far be > > it > > from me to prevent somebody from doing so, but that's just what it sounds > > like. Right now, we have one solution that works well f

Soname bumps and rebuilds of math packages

2020-07-06 Thread Jerry James
I will update several of our math packages in the next couple of days, once I finish doing test builds. Multiple soname bumps are involved. I will rebuild all affected packages. This will be my first attempt at building in a side tag. Wish me luck! The following will be updated, in "round" orde

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: swap on zram

2020-07-06 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 7/6/20 1:48 PM, Sergio Belkin wrote: At https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/SwapOnZRAM#Why_systemd_zram-generator.3F it says: "Do not create swap partition/LV with default installations." I don't understand if it is a description or a prescription :)I mean, can coexist swap partition/LV

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-06 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 5:05 PM John M. Harris Jr wrote: > > On Monday, July 6, 2020 1:34:05 PM MST Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 4:26 PM John M. Harris Jr > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 6, 2020 5:24:32 AM MST Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > > > > > > > Default fedora disk layo

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-06 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Monday, July 6, 2020 1:34:05 PM MST Neal Gompa wrote: > On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 4:26 PM John M. Harris Jr > wrote: > > > > > > On Monday, July 6, 2020 5:24:32 AM MST Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > > > > > Default fedora disk layout in UEFI mode is partitions for ESP, /boot > > > and > > > LVM. If you

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-06 Thread Peter Robinson
> > I guess that shows how unfamiliar I am with UEFI boot Fedora. You would > > encrypt /boot to ensure that your boot images have not been tampered with, > > or > > config files haven't been read by somebody other than the end user. > > > > Encryption != integrity/authentication. The only thing e

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: swap on zram

2020-07-06 Thread Sergio Belkin
El vie., 5 jun. 2020 a las 16:10, John M. Harris Jr () escribió: > On Friday, June 5, 2020 12:03:03 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 11:47 AM John M. Harris Jr > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, June 4, 2020 11:54:37 PM MST Kevin Kofler wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Also

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-06 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 4:26 PM John M. Harris Jr wrote: > > On Monday, July 6, 2020 5:24:32 AM MST Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > > Default fedora disk layout in UEFI mode is partitions for ESP, /boot and > > LVM. If you ask for full disk encryption LVM is encrypted, ESP + boot > > are not. Which makes

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-06 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Monday, July 6, 2020 5:24:32 AM MST Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > Default fedora disk layout in UEFI mode is partitions for ESP, /boot and > LVM. If you ask for full disk encryption LVM is encrypted, ESP + boot > are not. Which makes sense to me. Why would you encrypt /boot? The > files you can fin

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-06 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 7/6/20 9:36 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote: On Monday, July 6, 2020 5:51:40 AM MST Gerd Hoffmann wrote: Image boots in both uefi (sd-boot) and bios (grub2) mode, and the config file for the latter is so short that I can include it here without hitting the mailing list size limit ;) ---

Re: Packagers with no corresponding valid bugzilla accounts

2020-07-06 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 02:55:50PM +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 10:10:36PM +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > Good Morning Everyone, > > > > If you are a packagers or are watching tickets on dist-git (ie: asked to be > > cc'ed on tickets on bugzilla for a given packa

Re: Could not execute build: database outage

2020-07-06 Thread José Abílio Matos
On Monday, 6 July 2020 18.55.11 WEST Kevin Fenzi wrote: > I restarted the database server this morning. It usually takes about 1.5 > seconds to restart, so you must have just hit it in that window. > > kevin My only concern was if there was any kind of (hidden) consequence of the error. From yo

Swap on ZRAM thank you

2020-07-06 Thread Brandon Nielsen
I have been playing with swap on ZRAM some in the past days, and more formally running it through it's paces during today's test day[0], and I just want to say thank you to everyone involved in getting it ready for release. It has made a marked difference in desktop responsiveness when doing me

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-06 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Monday, July 6, 2020 2:10:18 AM MST Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: > On 5.7.2020 19:31, Solomon Peachy wrote: > > > On Sun, Jul 05, 2020 at 07:18:47PM -, Tom Seewald wrote: > > > >> In terms of physical x86 systems, you are right that UEFI is the > >> overwhelming majority. But as stated els

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-06 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 6.7.2020 12:07, Tomasz Torcz wrote: On Mon, Jul 06, 2020 at 01:31:30PM +0200, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: The BIOS provides block device access at sector level, so the boot loader has little choice but implementing drivers for all kinds of stuff. Or use fragile block lists like lilo did in the last

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-06 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Monday, July 6, 2020 5:51:40 AM MST Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > Image boots in both uefi (sd-boot) and bios (grub2) mode, and the config > file for the latter is so short that I can include it here without > hitting the mailing list size limit ;) > > -- cut here -

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-06 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 6.7.2020 18:39, Javier Martinez Canillas wrote: On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 10:39 AM Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 5.7.2020 18:34, Javier Martinez Canillas wrote: On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 6:27 PM Lennart Poettering wrote: [snip] Please submit additions to the spec as PRs to systemd github. W

Re: [fedora-java] Questions on an update to javamail in ursine

2020-07-06 Thread Jie Kang
Hey Mat, On further investigation, the compatibility changes that require attention are made in javamail 1.6.3 and later, see: https://eclipse-ee4j.github.io/mail/docs/COMPAT.txt The maven coordinates are changed, generally javax -> jakarta. This also affects the osgi provides. Regards, Jie Ka

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-06 Thread Christian Stadelmann
Out of the 2 computers I own, 2 only boot through legacy BIOS. One claims to have UEFI support but I haven't managed to get it running with tens of hours of work over the years. In other words: I think it is too early to drop support for this legacy technology. _

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-06 Thread Javier Martinez Canillas
On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 10:39 AM Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: > > On 5.7.2020 18:34, Javier Martinez Canillas wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 6:27 PM Lennart Poettering > > wrote: > > > > [snip] > > > >> Please submit additions to the spec as PRs to systemd github. We added > >> a number of new

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20200706.n.0 changes

2020-07-06 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20200704.n.1 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20200706.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 4 Added packages: 1 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 27 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 1.27 MiB Size of dropped packages:0 B

Re: Could not execute build: database outage

2020-07-06 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, Jul 06, 2020 at 03:03:07PM +0100, José Abílio Matos wrote: > While calling "fedpkg build" I got the warning (error?) displayed in the > title: > > ... > Could not execute build: database outage > > Apparently the build is over and well. :-) > https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?

SCons-4.0.0 coming on Rawhide

2020-07-06 Thread Antonio T. sagitter
Hi all. SCons-4.0.0 [1] is coming on Rawhide branch. Involved packages: $ repoquery --release rawhide --whatrequires python3-scons --disablerepo=* --enablerepo=fedora-source --enablerepo=updates-source Last metadata expiration check: 0:00:02 ago on lun 6 lug 2020, 19:27:21. boswars-0:2.7-22.svn1

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

2020-07-06 Thread Przemek Klosowski via devel
On 7/2/20 4:38 PM, Eric Sandeen wrote: Running 10 loops on each of btrfs, ext4, and xfs I got results that look like this (ext4 always creates empty lost+found so it will always find at least 1 file there) btrfs ... == 4 fsck failures, 2 mount failures ext4 ... == 0 fsck failures, 0 mount failu

Re: Can we do away with release and changelog bumping?

2020-07-06 Thread Björn Persson
Adam Saleh wrote: > Piere (a.k.a Pingou), Nils and me worked on Rpmautospec [1] to solve this > problem few months ago. > It is a koji plugin as well as CLI tool that makes bumping the release > field and generating changelog problem of Koji, > instead of package-maintainer. Currently it sits deplo

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

2020-07-06 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 01:19, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 8:40 PM Eric Sandeen wrote: > > > > On 7/3/20 1:41 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > SSDs can fail in weird ways. Some spew garbage as they're failing, > > > some go read-only. I've seen both. I don't have stats on how common

Re: Can we do away with release and changelog bumping?

2020-07-06 Thread PGNet Dev
On 7/6/20 8:27 AM, Björn Persson wrote: > Florian Weimer wrote: >> * Björn Persson: >> >>> The macro could be defined like this for example: >>> >>>%buildtag .%(date +%%s) >> >> Using time for synchronization is always a bit iffy. > > Well, if somebody manages to build a package twice within a

Re: Enable EarlyOOM on Fedora KDE - Fedora 33 Self-Contained Change proposal

2020-07-06 Thread Przemek Klosowski via devel
On 7/4/20 8:18 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote: I've never managed to get one of my own Fedora machines to the point of OOMing, and, when I have seen others do it, it's a problem that would have been solved by having more swap space. I am a tab hoarder so I used to wedge the browser due to memory l

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-06 Thread nickysn
On Mon, 2020-07-06 at 14:51 +0200, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > Hi, > > > My real problem with grub2 is not that it's complex, but the fact > > that > > it exposes its complexities to the user. > > The config file syntax is a mess indeed. The fact that you need a > config generator tool in the first

Re: Can we do away with release and changelog bumping?

2020-07-06 Thread Björn Persson
Florian Weimer wrote: > * Björn Persson: > > > The macro could be defined like this for example: > > > > %buildtag .%(date +%%s) > > Using time for synchronization is always a bit iffy. Well, if somebody manages to build a package twice within a second, using two different versions of a comp

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

2020-07-06 Thread Josef Bacik
On 7/3/20 10:39 PM, Eric Sandeen wrote: On 7/3/20 1:41 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: SSDs can fail in weird ways. Some spew garbage as they're failing, some go read-only. I've seen both. I don't have stats on how common it is for an SSD to go read-only as it fails, but once it happens you cannot fsck

Re: modular and personal koji

2020-07-06 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 10:33, Didier Fabert wrote: > > Hi all, > > With my personal koji (on el8), I cannot build some packages for my el8 > tag. All failures are about modular metadata packages which cannot be > installed. > Koji doesn't really understand modules and the depsolver has problems. F

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-06 Thread Nicolas Mailhot via devel
Le 2020-07-06 16:33, Gerd Hoffmann a écrit : On Mon, Jul 06, 2020 at 03:45:45PM +0200, Nicolas Mailhot via devel wrote: Le lundi 06 juillet 2020 à 15:33 +0200, Gerd Hoffmann a écrit : >   Hi, > > See above. sd-boot allows to edit the kernel command line too. Same > hotkey ('e') even. And

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-06 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
On Mon, Jul 06, 2020 at 03:45:45PM +0200, Nicolas Mailhot via devel wrote: > Le lundi 06 juillet 2020 à 15:33 +0200, Gerd Hoffmann a écrit : > >   Hi, > > > > See above. sd-boot allows to edit the kernel command line too. Same > > hotkey ('e') even. And unlike the 'l' and 'w' hotkeys that

modular and personal koji

2020-07-06 Thread Didier Fabert
Hi all, With my personal koji (on el8), I cannot build some packages for my el8 tag. All failures are about modular metadata packages which cannot be installed. DEBUG util.py:621: No available modular metadata for modular package 'httpd-2.4.37-21.module_el8.2.0+382+15b0afa8.x86_64', it cannot be

Could not execute build: database outage

2020-07-06 Thread José Abílio Matos
While calling "fedpkg build" I got the warning (error?) displayed in the title: ... Could not execute build: database outage Apparently the build is over and well. :-) https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=46677172 This is just a report since everything is OK, I have used a side t

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-06 Thread Simo Sorce
On Mon, 2020-07-06 at 15:33 +0200, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > Hi, > > > > default entry highlighted, a few seconds timeout with countdown. Both > > > support editing boot entries. > > Anecdata, but I definitely never (maybe once 15 years ago?) had grub > > install issue, but plenty of dracut reconf

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-06 Thread Nicolas Mailhot via devel
Le lundi 06 juillet 2020 à 15:33 +0200, Gerd Hoffmann a écrit : >   Hi, > > > > default entry highlighted, a few seconds timeout with countdown. > > > Both > > > support editing boot entries. > > > Anecdata, but I definitely never (maybe once 15 years ago?) had > > grub > > install issue, but ple

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-06 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
Hi, > > default entry highlighted, a few seconds timeout with countdown. Both > > support editing boot entries. > Anecdata, but I definitely never (maybe once 15 years ago?) had grub > install issue, but plenty of dracut reconfiguration/upgrade failures > over the years and the ability to edit

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-06 Thread Simo Sorce
Hi, On Mon, 2020-07-06 at 13:31 +0200, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > Hi, > > > > btw, sd-boot has a few tricks up its sleeve: if during boot you keep > > > "w" pressed down it will automatically boot into windows, similar if > > > you keep "l" pressed down it will automaticall boot into linux, "a" > >

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-06 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
Hi, > My real problem with grub2 is not that it's complex, but the fact that > it exposes its complexities to the user. The config file syntax is a mess indeed. The fact that you need a config generator tool in the first place speaks volumes ... But note that grub config files don't have to b

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-06 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
On Mon, Jul 06, 2020 at 08:08:48AM -0400, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 07:38, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > btw, sd-boot has a few tricks up its sleeve: if during boot you keep > > > > "w" pressed down it will automatically boot into windows, similar if > >

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-06 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
On Sun, Jul 05, 2020 at 01:11:08AM -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > On Sunday, July 5, 2020 1:03:34 AM MST Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > > It would be great that the installer, Anaconda, enables sd-boot for > > users running on UEFI system. The method was done before with both LILO > > and Grub dec

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-06 Thread nickysn
On Mon, 2020-07-06 at 13:31 +0200, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > Hi, > > > > btw, sd-boot has a few tricks up its sleeve: if during boot you > > > keep > > > "w" pressed down it will automatically boot into windows, similar > > > if > > > you keep "l" pressed down it will automaticall boot into linux,

Re: Can we do away with release and changelog bumping?

2020-07-06 Thread Nicolas Mailhot via devel
Le lundi 06 juillet 2020 à 13:06 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot a écrit : > > Because the build state exists in koji only, there is no need to > commit back to git. BTW I’m fairly certain I could have managed to implement the thing without adding source files to the SRPM, removing the need for mock chan

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-06 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 07:38, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > > Hi, > > > > btw, sd-boot has a few tricks up its sleeve: if during boot you keep > > > "w" pressed down it will automatically boot into windows, similar if > > > you keep "l" pressed down it will automaticall boot into linux, "a" > > > will b

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-06 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Mon, Jul 06, 2020 at 01:31:30PM +0200, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > The BIOS provides block device access at sector level, so the boot > loader has little choice but implementing drivers for all kinds of > stuff. Or use fragile block lists like lilo did in the last century. > > With UEFI much more f

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-06 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
Hi, > I have no problem with GRUB2 or sd-boot. I have much more problems > with refind and their ilk. While things can look pretty, that's fine, > as soon as it gets in my way when I try to get things done it stops > being fine. "getting into the way" IMO includes "doesn't show up on the serial

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-06 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
Hi, > > btw, sd-boot has a few tricks up its sleeve: if during boot you keep > > "w" pressed down it will automatically boot into windows, similar if > > you keep "l" pressed down it will automaticall boot into linux, "a" > > will boot into macos, all without showing any UI at all. This means >

Re: Can we do away with release and changelog bumping?

2020-07-06 Thread Nicolas Mailhot via devel
Le lundi 06 juillet 2020 à 10:19 +0200, Adam Saleh a écrit : > Piere (a.k.a Pingou), Nils and me worked on Rpmautospec [1] to solve > this problem few months ago. > It is a koji plugin as well as CLI tool that makes bumping the > release field and generating changelog problem of Koji, > instead of

Re: [Fedora-packaging] Re: RPM-level auto release and changelog bumping - Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal

2020-07-06 Thread Nicolas Mailhot via devel
Le 2020-07-05 23:55, Dan Čermák a écrit : Hi Dan So essentially you store the changelog in a separate file The changelog is already detached in the F33 change https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Patches_in_Forge_macros_-_Auto_macros_-_Detached_rpm_changelogs This F34 change adds bumping t

Re: Can we do away with release and changelog bumping? (was: RPM-level auto release and changelog bumping - Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal)

2020-07-06 Thread Nicolas Mailhot via devel
Le dimanche 05 juillet 2020 à 23:36 +0200, Dan Čermák a écrit : > Nicolas Mailhot via devel writes: > > > Le dimanche 05 juillet 2020 à 17:46 +0200, Björn Persson a écrit : > > > Nicolas Mailhot via devel wrote: > > > > So if you want to push Fedora release logic to its ultimate > > > > conclusio

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-06 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 5.7.2020 19:31, Solomon Peachy wrote: On Sun, Jul 05, 2020 at 07:18:47PM -, Tom Seewald wrote: In terms of physical x86 systems, you are right that UEFI is the overwhelming majority. But as stated elsewhere in this thread, a lot of cloud providers and virtualization software default to us

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-06 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 5.7.2020 18:34, Javier Martinez Canillas wrote: On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 6:27 PM Lennart Poettering wrote: [snip] Please submit additions to the spec as PRs to systemd github. We added a number of new keys in the past that sd-boot itself doesn't make use of (devicetree and such), and we'd be

Re: Can we do away with release and changelog bumping?

2020-07-06 Thread Adam Saleh
Piere (a.k.a Pingou), Nils and me worked on Rpmautospec [1] to solve this problem few months ago. It is a koji plugin as well as CLI tool that makes bumping the release field and generating changelog problem of Koji, instead of package-maintainer. Currently it sits deployed in staging koji, so you