Re: R 3.4 update

2017-06-30 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 04:27:25PM +, Globe Trotter wrote: > FWIW, here is another example where this caused problems: > https://stackoverflow.com/q/44834208/479426 > > -- > Respectfully, the above package is not from R, but R-forge. If > contributors who are not part of the R ecosystem do

Re: R 3.4 update

2017-06-30 Thread Globe Trotter
From: Matthew Miller <mat...@fedoraproject.org> To: Development discussions related to Fedora <devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 10:57 AM Subject: Re: R 3.4 update On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 11:38:00AM -0400, Steve Grubb wrote: > First, I appr

Re: R 3.4 update

2017-06-30 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 11:38:00AM -0400, Steve Grubb wrote: > First, I appreciate the work that goes into maintaining the R ecosystem. But > there is now a problem that I don't think people would allow in other > languages. Namely, the recently pushed R-3.4 update breaks the wh

Re: R 3.4 update

2017-06-28 Thread Steve Grubb
On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 4:09:54 PM EDT Steve Grubb wrote: > On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 3:47:42 PM EDT Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Sun, 2017-06-25 at 17:08 +0100, José Abílio Matos wrote: > > > On Sunday, 25 June 2017 16.38.00 WEST Steve Grubb wrote: > > > > > > > For example, when I run

Re: R 3.4 update

2017-06-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2017-06-27 at 16:09 -0400, Steve Grubb wrote: > On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 3:47:42 PM EDT Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Sun, 2017-06-25 at 17:08 +0100, José Abílio Matos wrote: > > > On Sunday, 25 June 2017 16.38.00 WEST Steve Grubb wrote: > > > > > > > For example, when I run RStudio, I

Re: R 3.4 update

2017-06-27 Thread Steve Grubb
On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 3:47:42 PM EDT Adam Williamson wrote: > On Sun, 2017-06-25 at 17:08 +0100, José Abílio Matos wrote: > > On Sunday, 25 June 2017 16.38.00 WEST Steve Grubb wrote: > > > > > For example, when I run RStudio, I get: > > > > > > R graphics engine version 12 is not supported

Re: R 3.4 update

2017-06-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2017-06-25 at 20:28 -0400, Steve Grubb wrote: > IOW, F26 can have 3.4 just fine > since its not shipped. Well, it's not quite that clear cut. Even if we ignore the Final freeze which just kicked in (a significant version update would not be a great candidate for a freeze exception, in

Re: R 3.4 update

2017-06-27 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 08:28:15PM -0400, Steve Grubb wrote: > We don't do incompatible changes for python within a Fedora version release. > Major changes should be tied to an OS release. IOW, F26 can have 3.4 just > fine > since its not shipped. F25 has already shipped and rebuilding

Re: R 3.4 update

2017-06-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2017-06-25 at 17:08 +0100, José Abílio Matos wrote: > On Sunday, 25 June 2017 16.38.00 WEST Steve Grubb wrote: > > For example, when I run RStudio, I get: > > > > R graphics engine version 12 is not supported by this version of RStudio. > > The Plots tab will be disabled until a newer

Re: R 3.4 update

2017-06-25 Thread Steve Grubb
On Sunday, June 25, 2017 12:08:29 PM EDT José Abílio Matos wrote: > On Sunday, 25 June 2017 16.38.00 WEST Steve Grubb wrote: > > > For example, when I run RStudio, I get: > > > > R graphics engine version 12 is not supported by this version of RStudio. > > The Plots tab will be disabled until a

Re: R 3.4 update

2017-06-25 Thread José Abílio Matos
On Sunday, 25 June 2017 16.38.00 WEST Steve Grubb wrote: > For example, when I run RStudio, I get: > > R graphics engine version 12 is not supported by this version of RStudio. > The Plots tab will be disabled until a newer version of RStudio is > installed. You need to update Rstudio to a newer

R 3.4 update

2017-06-25 Thread Steve Grubb
Hello, First, I appreciate the work that goes into maintaining the R ecosystem. But there is now a problem that I don't think people would allow in other languages. Namely, the recently pushed R-3.4 update breaks the whole world. Something this disruptive usually has to wait for a new Fedora