Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2024-07-09)

2024-07-14 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 04:04:52PM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 3:18 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 09:11:49AM GMT, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > > > > Well, one thing that we ALSO lost in the conversion to Matrix was that > > > the minutes

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2024-07-09)

2024-07-12 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 3:18 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 09:11:49AM GMT, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > > Well, one thing that we ALSO lost in the conversion to Matrix was that > > the minutes used to include links to the full text (in both text and > > HTML formats) on

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2024-07-09)

2024-07-12 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 09:11:49AM GMT, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > Well, one thing that we ALSO lost in the conversion to Matrix was that > the minutes used to include links to the full text (in both text and > HTML formats) on meetbot.fedoraproject.org > In that case, the summary was enough to

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2024-07-09)

2024-07-12 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 7:38 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 01:46:04PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > > I'm saying the thing they > > are doing today is not really valuable for a consumer base that wasn't > > in the meeting. If they want to make it better, AI is a

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2024-07-09)

2024-07-12 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 01:46:04PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > I'm saying the thing they > are doing today is not really valuable for a consumer base that wasn't > in the meeting. If they want to make it better, AI is a tool that is > actually pretty simple to use to do that without a ton of

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2024-07-09)

2024-07-12 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 11:33:07AM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > I just want better summaries than what zodbot is currently providing I agree that the summaries aren't great. The formatting is worse than what we had on IRC. This is something that we should improve. > (which aren't reviewed either

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2024-07-09)

2024-07-11 Thread Stephen Smoogen
On Thu, 11 Jul 2024 at 13:47, Josh Boyer wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 12:08 PM Stephen Smoogen wrote: > > > > On Thu, 11 Jul 2024 at 11:34, Josh Boyer wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 12:46 PM Daniel P. Berrangé > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 09:36:35AM

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2024-07-09)

2024-07-11 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 12:08 PM Stephen Smoogen wrote: > > On Thu, 11 Jul 2024 at 11:34, Josh Boyer wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 12:46 PM Daniel P. Berrangé > > wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 09:36:35AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > > I'm guessing Josh's response

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2024-07-09)

2024-07-11 Thread Stephen Smoogen
On Thu, 11 Jul 2024 at 11:34, Josh Boyer wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 12:46 PM Daniel P. Berrangé > wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 09:36:35AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > I'm guessing Josh's response was an attempt to use AI to generate a > > > summary. In the future,

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2024-07-09)

2024-07-11 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 12:46 PM Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 09:36:35AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > I'm guessing Josh's response was an attempt to use AI to generate a > > summary. In the future, please label it as such, so people will read > > it with a critical

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2024-07-09)

2024-07-10 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 09:36:35AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > I'm guessing Josh's response was an attempt to use AI to generate a > summary. In the future, please label it as such, so people will read > it with a critical eye. It has some flaws which I will address inline: If content is

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2024-07-09)

2024-07-10 Thread Josh Stone
On 7/10/24 7:14 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: > Then I would encourage FESCo to look at providing better summaries of > their meetings, because the initial summary leaves the user concluding > FESCo didn't really discuss anything. At the very least, I (as chair) probably should have written "!info" lines

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2024-07-09)

2024-07-10 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 9:38 AM Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > I'm guessing Josh's response was an attempt to use AI to generate a > summary. In the future, please label it as such, so people will read > it with a critical eye. It has some flaws which I will address inline: Yep, because the

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2024-07-09)

2024-07-10 Thread Stephen Gallagher
I'm guessing Josh's response was an attempt to use AI to generate a summary. In the future, please label it as such, so people will read it with a critical eye. It has some flaws which I will address inline: On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 6:56 AM Josh Boyer wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 3:14 PM

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2024-07-09)

2024-07-10 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 3:14 PM Josh Stone wrote: > > Text Log: > https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/meeting_matrix_fedoraproject-org/2024-07-09/fesco.2024-07-09-17.00.log.txt > HTML Log: > https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/meeting_matrix_fedoraproject-org/2024-07-09/fesco.2024-07-09-17.00.log.html

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2024-07-09)

2024-07-09 Thread Josh Stone
Text Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/meeting_matrix_fedoraproject-org/2024-07-09/fesco.2024-07-09-17.00.log.txt HTML Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/meeting_matrix_fedoraproject-org/2024-07-09/fesco.2024-07-09-17.00.log.html Text Minutes: