Re: [Geany-Devel] A direction for Geany

2013-11-12 Thread Jon Senior
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 08:39:14 +0100 Thomas Martitz thomas.mart...@student.htw-berlin.de wrote: Embracing the toolkit (GTK) and adopting GNOME application style are two different things. Yes, we can make more use of GTK. But we do not have to GNOME it up for it. And whether or not we use a

[Geany-Devel] Wish for Wishlist and bug in Homepage

2013-11-12 Thread theUser BL
I want to say, that it would be nice, if a DocumentMap/MiniMap would be added to Geany. Please add it to the Wishlist on your side. Notepad++ have something called Document Map: http://notepad-plus-plus.org/assets/images/docMap.png Sublime Text have something called MiniMap:

Re: [Geany-Devel] Wish for Wishlist and bug in Homepage

2013-11-12 Thread Steven Blatnick
I +1 a mini map like sublime :-)  gedit has a buggy plugin that does the same which we could look at for a gtk implementation.  I like the idea of it being in a scroll bar to use less space. I suggest this should be a plugin though. Thanks, Steve

Re: [Geany-Devel] Wish for Wishlist and bug in Homepage

2013-11-12 Thread Enrico Tröger
Hi, An additional point I want to mention, is a bug in your Webside-software. As I wanted to add this wish to the wishlist, I clicked at the bottom of the page on edit this page of the line (If you have another idea/wish which should be listed here, edit this page). Then it asks for a username

Re: [Geany-Devel] Let's use Vala

2013-11-12 Thread Matthew Brush
On 13-11-11 11:48 PM, Steven Blatnick wrote: That sounds pretty good. Is that a lot like python and gtk? I get the impression its better since I don't think python compiles to equivolent c code? If by better you mean faster, leaner, and more compatible with existing C code, yep. It

Re: [Geany-Devel] Let's use Vala

2013-11-12 Thread Steven Blatnick
I'm thinking vala sounds like a good idea the more I hear about it... :-) On 11/12/2013 02:36 AM, Matthew Brush wrote: On 13-11-11 11:48 PM, Steven Blatnick wrote: That sounds pretty good. Is that a lot like python and gtk? I get the impression its better since I don't think python compiles

Re: [Geany-Devel] A direction for Geany

2013-11-12 Thread Dimitar Zhekov
On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 01:31:35 -0800 Matthew Brush mbr...@codebrainz.ca wrote: 1. An architecture that allows multi-threading to be used for non-GUI tasks. Another (perhaps more obvious) candidate here is file loading/saving, which is *way* easier than the parsing stuff since [...] and

[Geany-Devel] Please check your mail clients to support threads

2013-11-12 Thread Frank Lanitz
Hi folks, Sorry for that Geany-OT posting... but please be so kind and take some second to check whether your mail client is respecting the threading when answering a post. I've got a lot of spitted up threads here and it's really annoying and time consuming to put them together again. In

Re: [Geany-Devel] A direction for Geany

2013-11-12 Thread Frank Lanitz
Am 11.11.2013 23:38, schrieb Yosef Or Boczko: What about redesign the GUI? I like the current one. Only I can iamgine that another sidebar or mayby more flexible sidebars would help some. Personally I wouldn't change anything bigger at UI. Cheers, Frank signature.asc Description: OpenPGP

Re: [Geany-Devel] A direction for Geany

2013-11-12 Thread Frank Lanitz
Am 12.11.2013 00:11, schrieb Yosef Or Boczko: As a GNOME 3 user, I realy like the recent design of the applications in GNOME, specify the GtkHeaderBar[1]. And yes, I know have some people not like the new design of GNOME. As Matthew say, we can to go use the modern GTK+ API, for

[Geany-Devel] Gtk2 vs Gtk3 (was. Re: A direction for Geany)

2013-11-12 Thread Frank Lanitz
Am 11.11.2013 10:31, schrieb Matthew Brush: The other way we could go is to just strive to be a proper, modern GTK+ application. By this I mean using stuff like GtkApplication, GtkApplicationWindow, GSettings, etc. The GTK+ stack has lots of cool stuff to make doing applications easier/better

[Geany-Devel] Filetypes-Plugin-Support (was: Re: A direction for Geany)

2013-11-12 Thread Frank Lanitz
Am 11.11.2013 10:31, schrieb Matthew Brush: Another (perhaps more obvious) candidate here is file loading/saving, which is *way* easier than the parsing stuff since we don't have to contend with TM/CTags that uses global state like mad, and because Scintilla and GIO make this quite easy

Re: [Geany-Devel] A direction for Geany

2013-11-12 Thread Frank Lanitz
Am 11.11.2013 08:18, schrieb Lex Trotman: 1. An architecture that allows multi-threading to be used for non-GUI tasks. The most obvious of course is parsing. At the moment none of the parsers support symbols in anything other than the global scope, and adding them would significantly

Re: [Geany-Devel] Let's use Vala

2013-11-12 Thread Frank Lanitz
I cannot add much to the vala yes/no question, as the only part of ala I've seen by know are Matthews's plugin in g-p. Two or maybe three things are important to me, in case of: - Geany needs to keep its small memory footprint - Created code needs to run on all plattforms Geany currently is

Re: [Geany-Devel] Please check your mail clients to support threads

2013-11-12 Thread Steven Blatnick
Maybe you could send a personal email to the person/persons that aren't doing this correctly? I just checked the headers in one of my responses, and I think I'm okay. On 11/12/2013 08:33 AM, Frank Lanitz wrote: Hi folks, Sorry for that Geany-OT posting... but please be so kind and take some

Re: [Geany-Devel] Let's use Vala

2013-11-12 Thread Matthew Brush
On 13-11-12 07:50 AM, Frank Lanitz wrote: I cannot add much to the vala yes/no question, as the only part of ala I've seen by know are Matthews's plugin in g-p. Two or maybe three things are important to me, in case of: - Geany needs to keep its small memory footprint Yes, I don't think

Re: [Geany-Devel] Gtk2 vs Gtk3 (was. Re: A direction for Geany)

2013-11-12 Thread Lex Trotman
On 13 November 2013 10:06, Steven Blatnick steve8tr...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm being a bit off topic, but one problem I have with having both Gtk2 and Gtk3 apps is that there have been settings and theme discrepancies. For example, I use Linux Mint MATE, and there have been some problems with

Re: [Geany-Devel] Let's use Vala

2013-11-12 Thread Steven Blatnick
I hope I don't have to rewrite my plugins again for this editor ;-) I will admit though, seg faulting all of geany in a plugin gets annoying :-) Maybe I'm spoiling the party, but like with gnome 2, sometimes sticking with what you have is better than seemingly needless upgrades. I'm running

Re: [Geany-Devel] Gtk2 vs Gtk3 (was. Re: A direction for Geany)

2013-11-12 Thread Lex Trotman
On 13 November 2013 10:24, Steven Blatnick steve8tr...@yahoo.com wrote: My bad. It appears the bookmark discrepancy isn't between versions, but between caja and the file open dialog: Thats something inside GTK2/3 that provide the open dialog, nothing we can control AFAIK. [...] As for

Re: [Geany-Devel] Gtk2 vs Gtk3 (was. Re: A direction for Geany)

2013-11-12 Thread Lex Trotman
Why to switch to other toolkits?! I not understand what don't good in GTK+. And also - why to keep GTK+ 2? GTK+ 3 avilable in all distro, also in older distro, it also work in Windows and also in Mac. this because GTK+ 3 released before almost three years. Because many distros are more

Re: [Geany-Devel] Gtk2 vs Gtk3 (was. Re: A direction for Geany)

2013-11-12 Thread Yosef Or Boczko
I not understand, you mean have some old version of some distro isn't support GTK+ 3 and them always with older version of all package - so why Geany need to be the last in them distro? Geany need to go forward, and older distro will keep the old version of Geany same them keep the old version

Re: [Geany-Devel] A direction for Geany

2013-11-12 Thread Lex Trotman
[...] I'm afraid too. Most likely dependencies will increase as well as memory footprint. But this is something we get regular asked on our boothes: More intelligent auto completion stuff. Unfortunately this is one of the things making the huge IDE so huge. Yes, more capabilities or using

Re: [Geany-Devel] Gtk2 vs Gtk3 (was. Re: A direction for Geany)

2013-11-12 Thread Matthew Brush
On 13-11-12 03:48 PM, Lex Trotman wrote: Why to switch to other toolkits?! I not understand what don't good in GTK+. And also - why to keep GTK+ 2? GTK+ 3 avilable in all distro, also in older distro, it also work in Windows and also in Mac. this because GTK+ 3 released before almost three

Re: [Geany-Devel] Gtk2 vs Gtk3 (was. Re: A direction for Geany)

2013-11-12 Thread Lex Trotman
On 13 November 2013 10:53, Yosef Or Boczko yosef...@gmail.com wrote: I not understand, you mean have some old version of some distro isn't support GTK+ 3 and them always with older version of all package - so why Geany need to be the last in them distro? Several reasons: 1. we don't have

Re: [Geany-Devel] Gtk2 vs Gtk3 (was. Re: A direction for Geany)

2013-11-12 Thread Matthew Brush
On 13-11-12 04:23 PM, Lex Trotman wrote: On 13 November 2013 10:53, Yosef Or Boczko yosef...@gmail.com wrote: I not understand, you mean have some old version of some distro isn't support GTK+ 3 and them always with older version of all package - so why Geany need to be the last in them