Re: [OMPI devel] IPv6 support

2013-07-28 Thread Ralph Castain
Thanks Andreas Turns out that I was able to get access to a local resource, so I won't be needing the assist after all. Appreciate the offer! Ralph On Jul 26, 2013, at 11:51 PM, Andreas Schäfer wrote: > Hi, > > I got a small devel cluster set up with both, IPv4 and IPv6. Would > that setup b

Re: [OMPI devel] IPv6 support

2013-07-27 Thread Andreas Schäfer
Hi, I got a small devel cluster set up with both, IPv4 and IPv6. Would that setup be suitable, or are you looking for a IPv6-only machine? I could give you an account there. Best -Andreas On 15:18 Fri 26 Jul , Ralph Castain wrote: > Just curious: does anyone out there have a couple of IPv6

Re: [OMPI devel] IPv6 support in OpenMPI?

2006-04-04 Thread Christian Kauhaus
Bogdan Costescu : >The question is then what to do about the names given in the >machinefile ? Should they just be passed to the rsh/ssh client hoping >that they would work ? Should there be an option for resolving the Just passing the contents of the machinefile is the way the current code wor

Re: [OMPI devel] IPv6 support in OpenMPI?

2006-04-04 Thread Bogdan Costescu
On Mon, 3 Apr 2006, Christian Kauhaus wrote: 1. Put IPv[46] addresses into the machinefile. Since they are protocol-specific, both rsh/ssh uses them just the way they are. Yes, this would work. The machinefile could come from the user or from a batch/queueing system, but this should signify

Re: [OMPI devel] IPv6 support in OpenMPI?

2006-04-03 Thread Christian Kauhaus
Bogdan Costescu : >I beg to disagree. In a setup like the one mentioned, after orted is >started via an IPv4-only rsh/ssh, OpenMPI applications could use IPv6 >without problems, just like they could use f.e. GM if Myrinet cards >would be present. I see this very much like your past experience wi

Re: [OMPI devel] IPv6 support in OpenMPI?

2006-04-03 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
* Bogdan Costescu wrote on Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 05:34:56PM CEST: > > IMHO code can simply be shared and only the really different part > should be made independent. This is more a question of whether the > build system would allow such a scheme and of the runtime behaviour > (for static linking

Re: [OMPI devel] IPv6 support in OpenMPI?

2006-04-03 Thread Bogdan Costescu
On Mon, 3 Apr 2006, Christian Kauhaus wrote: This would result in an enormous amount of duplicated code, since the IPv4->IPv6 transition would only affect a small fraction of the total tcp BTL codebase. This is clearly a violation of the DRY principle (don't repeat yourself). IMHO code can s

Re: [OMPI devel] IPv6 support in OpenMPI?

2006-04-03 Thread Ralph Castain
I think that would be okay - certainly  makes a good starting point! If it becomes an issue later, we can revisit at that time. Thanks Ralph Christian Kauhaus wrote: Ralph Castain : Actually, we have some sensor network folks that are interested in using OpenRTE for their ap

Re: [OMPI devel] IPv6 support in OpenMPI?

2006-04-03 Thread Christian Kauhaus
Ralph Castain : > Actually, we have some sensor network folks that are interested in > using OpenRTE for their applications. Their platforms can be small > microprocessors, many with custom mini-operating systems. Almost > none support IPv6 nor have any knowledge of that protocol. I see. D

Re: [OMPI devel] IPv6 support in OpenMPI?

2006-04-03 Thread Christian Kauhaus
Bogdan Costescu : >What you propose here should work for the case of a single BTL that >handles both IPv4 and IPv6. How about the case of 2 BTLs ? (as it's >not clear to me from the rest of the discussion if one solution is >better than the other) The introduction of a new 'tcp6' BTL was mentio

Re: [OMPI devel] IPv6 support in OpenMPI?

2006-04-03 Thread Bogdan Costescu
On Fri, 31 Mar 2006, Christian Kauhaus wrote: So the resolver already does the complicated work for us, since it returns all addresses associated to a given target (hostname or IP-addr notation) in the order of decreasing preference. What you propose here should work for the case of a single

Re: [OMPI devel] IPv6 support in OpenMPI?

2006-03-31 Thread Brooks Davis
On Sat, Apr 01, 2006 at 12:03:00AM +0200, Adrian Knoth wrote: > On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 11:06:55AM -0800, Brooks Davis wrote: > > > > One little problem here is that it is possible to disable the > > > IPv6-mapped IPv4 addresses at least under Linux and some BSD variants. > > > For Linux, have a l

Re: [OMPI devel] IPv6 support in OpenMPI?

2006-03-31 Thread Adrian Knoth
On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 11:06:55AM -0800, Brooks Davis wrote: > > One little problem here is that it is possible to disable the > > IPv6-mapped IPv4 addresses at least under Linux and some BSD variants. > > For Linux, have a look at sys.net.ipv6.bindv6only. Some authors even > More specifically,

Re: [OMPI devel] IPv6 support in OpenMPI?

2006-03-31 Thread Adrian Knoth
On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 05:55:28PM +0200, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: > Have not: > HP-UX 11.00 HPUX 11iv2 has, for the early HPUX-11 versions there is TOUR (Transport Optional Upgrade Release) -- mail: a...@thur.de http://adi.thur.de PGP: v2-key via keyserver Schlecht: Du kannst deine

Re: [OMPI devel] IPv6 support in OpenMPI?

2006-03-31 Thread Ralph Castain
Actually, we have some sensor network folks that are interested in using OpenRTE for their applications. Their platforms can be small microprocessors, many with custom mini-operating systems. Almost none support IPv6 nor have any knowledge of that protocol. Ralph Christian Kauhaus wrote:

Re: [OMPI devel] IPv6 support in OpenMPI?

2006-03-31 Thread Christian Kauhaus
Ralph Castain : >From the run-time perspective, whatever you do *must* support heterogeneous >networks of computers that may and may not support IPv6, and may and may not >support IPv6-mapped IPv4 addresses. In other words, the solution must support >systems including computers that only know IPv4.

Re: [OMPI devel] IPv6 support in OpenMPI?

2006-03-31 Thread Brooks Davis
On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 06:53:05PM +0200, Christian Kauhaus wrote: > Adrian Knoth : > >(I really prefer the v6-mapped-v4 solution with a single > > socket, thus eliminating this problem) > > One little problem here is that it is possible to disable the > IPv6-mapped IPv4 addresses at least under L

Re: [OMPI devel] IPv6 support in OpenMPI?

2006-03-31 Thread Ralph Castain
Hi folks Sorry to be coming late to the discussion - I'm on travel, so my comments will likely have long time delays in them. Only one contribution I would like to make. You are welcome to do whatever you like (subject to the usual approval procedure) in the MPI layer (the btl's for example)

Re: [OMPI devel] IPv6 support in OpenMPI?

2006-03-31 Thread Christian Kauhaus
Adrian Knoth : >(I really prefer the v6-mapped-v4 solution with a single > socket, thus eliminating this problem) One little problem here is that it is possible to disable the IPv6-mapped IPv4 addresses at least under Linux and some BSD variants. For Linux, have a look at sys.net.ipv6.bindv6only.

Re: [OMPI devel] IPv6 support in OpenMPI?

2006-03-31 Thread Christian Kauhaus
Bogdan Costescu : >- are all computers that should participate in a job configured >similarly (only IPv6 or both IPv4 and IPv6) ? If not all are, then >should some part of the computers communicate over one protocol and >the rest over the other ? I think that this split coomunication would Thi

Re: [OMPI devel] IPv6 support in OpenMPI?

2006-03-31 Thread Christian Kauhaus
Brian Barrett : >Great! We currently only have IPv4 support, but IPv6 has always been >on the wishlist. Most of the developers in the States don't have This is very fine. :-) >As far as I'm aware, there is no one working on IPv6 support for Open >MPI. We would welcome anyone willing to w

Re: [OMPI devel] IPv6 support in OpenMPI?

2006-03-31 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
* Adrian Knoth wrote on Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 05:33:29PM CEST: > > If there is really a platform without sockaddr_in6 *snip* > As far as I know: All BSDs have v6, Linux has, HPUX, AIX, Solaris, > Windows (XP for sure, 2000 experimental, 9X/ME don't). As determined by a cheap find /usr/include -

Re: [OMPI devel] IPv6 support in OpenMPI?

2006-03-31 Thread Brian Barrett
On Mar 31, 2006, at 10:33 AM, Adrian Knoth wrote: On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 05:21:42PM +0200, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: Perhaps it's a good idea to port any internal structure to IPv6, as it is able to represent the whole v4 namespace. One can always determine whether it is a real v6 or only a mapp

Re: [OMPI devel] IPv6 support in OpenMPI?

2006-03-31 Thread Adrian Knoth
On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 05:21:42PM +0200, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: > > Perhaps it's a good idea to port any internal structure to > > IPv6, as it is able to represent the whole v4 namespace. > > One can always determine whether it is a real v6 or only > > a mapped v4 address (the common ::: pref

Re: [OMPI devel] IPv6 support in OpenMPI?

2006-03-31 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
* Adrian Knoth wrote on Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 04:59:42PM CEST: > > Perhaps it's a good idea to port any internal structure to > IPv6, as it is able to represent the whole v4 namespace. > One can always determine whether it is a real v6 or only > a mapped v4 address (the common ::: prefix) I'm

Re: [OMPI devel] IPv6 support in OpenMPI?

2006-03-31 Thread Brian Barrett
On Mar 31, 2006, at 10:15 AM, Adrian Knoth wrote: On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 09:36:31AM -0500, Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) wrote: I have no personal experience with IPv6, but one thought that strikes me is that the components might be able to figure out what to do by looking at/parsing either t

Re: [OMPI devel] IPv6 support in OpenMPI?

2006-03-31 Thread Bogdan Costescu
On Fri, 31 Mar 2006, Brian Barrett wrote: Are your hosts configured for both IPv4 and IPv6 traffic (or are they IPv6 only)? This is a big question and one that basically stopped me from adding IPv6 support to LAM/MPI some 3 years ago. There are several things that have to be considered: -

Re: [OMPI devel] IPv6 support in OpenMPI?

2006-03-31 Thread Adrian Knoth
On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 09:36:31AM -0500, Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) wrote: > I have no personal experience with IPv6, but one thought that strikes me > is that the components might be able to figure out what to do by looking > at/parsing either the hostnames or the results that come back from > reso

Re: [OMPI devel] IPv6 support in OpenMPI?

2006-03-31 Thread Adrian Knoth
On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 09:07:39AM -0500, Brian Barrett wrote: > > I have a first quick and dirty patch, replacing AF_INET by AF_INET6, > > the sockaddr_in structs and so on. > Is there a way to do this to better support both IPv4 and IPv6? I think so, too. There are probably two different ways t

Re: [OMPI devel] IPv6 support in OpenMPI?

2006-03-31 Thread Jeff Squyres (jsquyres)
> -Original Message- > From: devel-boun...@open-mpi.org > [mailto:devel-boun...@open-mpi.org] On Behalf Of Brian Barrett > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 9:08 AM > To: Open MPI Developers > Subject: Re: [OMPI devel] IPv6 support in OpenMPI? > > From a practical sta

Re: [OMPI devel] IPv6 support in OpenMPI?

2006-03-31 Thread Brian Barrett
On Mar 31, 2006, at 8:40 AM, Adrian Knoth wrote: On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 10:44:11AM +0200, Christian Kauhaus wrote: Hello *, Hi. University of Jena (Germany). Our work group is digging into how to connect several clusters on a campus. I think I'm also a member of this workgroup, though I

Re: [OMPI devel] IPv6 support in OpenMPI?

2006-03-31 Thread Brian Barrett
On Mar 31, 2006, at 3:44 AM, Christian Kauhaus wrote: first I'd like to introduce myself. I'm Christian Kauhaus and I am currently working at the Department of Computer Architecture at the University of Jena (Germany). Our work group is digging into how to connect several clusters on a campus.

Re: [OMPI devel] IPv6 support in OpenMPI?

2006-03-31 Thread Adrian Knoth
On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 10:44:11AM +0200, Christian Kauhaus wrote: > Hello *, Hi. > University of Jena (Germany). Our work group is digging into how to > connect several clusters on a campus. I think I'm also a member of this workgroup, though I am not working at University of Jena, but studyi