o me the Pi 3B+ should work fine?
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Yo Achim!
On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 19:28:32 +0200
Achim Gratz via devel wrote:
> Gary E. Miller via devel writes:
> > We probably need to work with linuxpps, but we may have an easier
> > time working with the folks that maintain the Raspberry Pi fork.
> > The last time I a
eep beating that dead horse.
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pgpZQL0LwZxpk.pgp
Descriptio
Yo Achim!
On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 21:43:03 +0200
Achim Gratz via devel wrote:
> Gary E. Miller via devel writes:
> >> That doesn't really matter, it is still about three orders of
> >> magnitude improvement over what we get today for the error that
> >> matters.
>
Yo Achim!
On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 22:56:37 +0200
Achim Gratz via devel wrote:
> Gary E. Miller via devel writes:
> >> So do I, in fact I run between 140ns to 240ns of "average jitter"
> >> pretty consistently across five machines (three different rasPi and
>
the team.
Yuop. Thanks for your MRs!
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uot;--- PYTHONPATH is set, "
- "this may mask or cause library-related problems ---")
+print("--- PYTHONPATH is not set, "
+ "loading the Python ntp library may be troublesome ---")
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Desc
hecked it out?
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"If you can’t meas
imestamp as soon as
it gets it. gpsd would have to delay, hoping to get a TM2, then
send the timestamp deleayd.
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We need the PPS for traceability and camparability. To prove this is
better or worse. We'll need a lot of A/B.
> Or, as it's a LKM, anyone can add what they want.
Oh, yeah, everyone can recompile kernel modules. :-)
> But the Timemark mode gives the best results... Implementing that
> first.
Looking forward to it!
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move onto
what we can determine experimentally.
> I'm wanting numbers.
We all do! As soon as you have any LKM patches against the RasPi
4.14 kernel I'll test them.
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Yo MLewis!
On Mon, 27 Aug 2018 19:07:52 -0400
MLewis via devel wrote:
> Gary,
>
> On 27/08/2018 6:38 PM, Gary E. Miller via devel wrote:
> > Yo MLewis!
> >
> > On Mon, 27 Aug 2018 18:24:01 -0400
> > MLewis via devel wrote:
> >
> > The key t
, then do a git stash.
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Yo Eric!
On Thu, 30 Aug 2018 15:35:46 -0400
"Eric S. Raymond" wrote:
> Gary E. Miller via devel :
> > I'm seeing something new and odd with NTPsec git head. When I kill
> > the old ntpd to start a new one, this is in my logs:
> >
> > [834374.
not be.
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p
Yo Ian!
On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 12:59:09 -0500
Ian Bruene via devel wrote:
> On 08/31/2018 09:44 AM, Ian Bruene wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 08/30/2018 11:50 PM, Gary E. Miller via devel wrote:
> >> Oh, most certainly on shutdown.
> >
> > Do you have a recipe
Yo Ian!
On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 09:44:43 -0500
Ian Bruene via devel wrote:
> On 08/30/2018 11:50 PM, Gary E. Miller via devel wrote:
> > Oh, most certainly on shutdown.
>
> Do you have a recipe to reproduce?
You need to be using the GPS driver. This line in ntp.conf:
refcl
S
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pgpWciYTIFLe0.pgp
Description:
need to run the u-blox
> refclock?
No kernel side features are need to run u-blox as a refclock.
KPPS helps a lot.
I suspect you meant is this all that is needed for Timemark mode?
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id *, const char *, ...)' [-Wcast-function-type]
leapsec_dump(pt, (leapsec_dumper)fprintf, stdout);
^
../../tests/ntpd/leapsec.c: In function 'TEST_leapsec_addDynamic_':
../../tests/ntpd/leapsec.c:606:19: warning: cast between incompatible function
types from 'int (*)(FILE *
Yo Eric!
On Thu, 30 Aug 2018 15:35:46 -0400
"Eric S. Raymond" wrote:
> Gary E. Miller via devel :
> > I'm seeing something new and odd with NTPsec git head. When I kill
> > the old ntpd to start a new one, this is in my logs:
> >
> > [834374.
Yo Eric!
> > > Gary E. Miller via devel :
> > > > I'm seeing something new and odd with NTPsec git head. When I
> > > > kill the old ntpd to start a new one, this is in my logs:
> > > >
> > > > [834374.559668] ntpd[8904]: segfa
Yo Matthew!
>
> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 01:35:14 +
> Matthew Selsky wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 06:21:49PM -0700, Gary E. Miller via devel
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I recently updated to gcc 8.2.0. Of course it leads to new
> > > warnings
Yo Eric!
> > Gary E. Miller via devel :
> > > I'm seeing something new and odd with NTPsec git head. When I
> > > kill the old ntpd to start a new one, this is in my logs:
> > >
> > > [834374.559668] ntpd[8904]: segfault at 88 ip 5581071fb466
> You think the core-dump is happening during shutdown?
Oh, most certainly on shutdown.
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es gpsd sees two serial ports and tries to use
both as GPS.
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Yo Achim!
On Tue, 23 Jan 2018 22:04:42 +0100
Achim Gratz via devel <devel@ntpsec.org> wrote:
> Gary E. Miller via devel writes:
> >> As noted before I've been wondering how to get a second (or third)
> >> gps-ppio device configured.
> >
> > gpsd would hav
Yo Achim!
On Tue, 23 Jan 2018 22:26:07 +0100
Achim Gratz via devel <devel@ntpsec.org> wrote:
> Gary E. Miller via devel writes:
> > Sure it does. gpsd works with the /dev/ppsX devices, which are
> > kernel timestamped. I use that on all my RasPi GPS.
>
> Yeah.
would expect this to work, but it also jsut give you one
/dev/ppsX:
dtoverlay=pps-gpio,gpiopin=18,4
So the problem is with the RasPi kernel. Go ahead and nag them for us.
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Yo Eric!
On Sat, 10 Mar 2018 23:41:52 -0500
"Eric S. Raymond" <e...@thyrsus.com> wrote:
> Gary E. Miller via devel <devel@ntpsec.org>:
> > To follow up on this, the user had ./clockmaker --config fail to
> > install scons. Probably failed earlier. No war
PATH, but not 'scons'.
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g list
> devel@ntpsec.org
> http://lists.ntpsec.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
>
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is likely not in the
users path.
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Yo All!
On Sat, 10 Mar 2018 16:07:51 -0800
"Gary E. Miller via devel" <devel@ntpsec.org> wrote:
> clockmaker is giving a user warnings like:
> This function should not be run as root.
>
> But he has no idea which command in clockmaker.
>
> Can we g
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.
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Title:
GitLab
Hal M
ile, commit it to git, and get it to publish.
LE sees the file, gives me the public/private key. They I have to use
the gitlab UI to install the new cert.
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deal with. This will take a while...
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origin/refgenfix
# git status
On branch master
Your branch is up to date with 'origin/master'.
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er running on the MX server.
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Begin forward
ault: /usr/lib/python-
exec/python3.4/python3]
# python3.5
[...]
--python=PYTHON python binary to be used [Default: /usr/bin/python3.5]
Or do you want something different than what it does now?
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iling list?
Probably, I suspect NTP Classic also has the bug.
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pstream into NTPsec. I
suspect some other distros might want to use it, but many will not.
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&
the
typical jitter of NTP on the net. For now.
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"If you can’t measure it, you can’t improve it." -
et correctly and NTPsec
installed for that version.
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: 579076096.001
I just pulled git head, same thing. So somehow -g got broken?
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8a sys_peer
It might be just ntpmon hanging. When I start a second ntpmon they
both wake up.
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onfig file.
Surprise. With that, it no longer crashes.
It just marks ALL chimers and refclocks as invalid. Then hangs.
See logs below.
Also no way to put panicgate in the ntp.conf. At least the man page
does not say how.
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Yo Hal!
On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 17:43:43 -0700
"Gary E. Miller via devel" <devel@ntpsec.org> wrote:
> > [Aside, the big jump stuff should log the full date. The year is
> > missing above.]
> I think esr just patched that?
The logs below confirm t
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vides?
I want my clock not stuck in 2134. -g alone does not fix that.
'tos minsane 3' fixes it, unless I'm offline, which is pretty common
for RasPi.
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; +stepback+ _stepback_ | +stepfwd+ _stepfwd_ | +stepout+ _stepout_]::
Ugh, improving this is gonna be hard...
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load is in progress.
Not sure ow that applies to my case?
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Yeah, depends on your distro. They usually get it right, I'm worried
about the corner cases when it does not. Like on first boot from a
raw install.
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n FAQ added, to avoid this
common issue.
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ter to use at runtime.
> We think the choice that minimizes overall pain, and directs it to
> the party best able to cope, is clear. We choose (b).
Minimizes your pain, not mine.
> Any comment or objection?
Yup, I object.
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Yo Eric!
On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 12:58:28 -0400
"Eric S. Raymond" <e...@thyrsus.com> wrote:
> Gary E. Miller via devel <devel@ntpsec.org>:
> > On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 11:30:33 -0400 (EDT)
> > "Eric S. Raymond via devel" <devel@ntpsec.org> wrote:
>
cd build
../configure
make && make install
Same as always.
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Yo Eric!
On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 22:08:18 -0400
"Eric S. Raymond" <e...@thyrsus.com> wrote:
> Gary E. Miller via devel <devel@ntpsec.org>:
> > I just pulled git head, same thing. So somehow -g got broken?
>
> Looks like. I recomment bisection - with an erro
ing at the log. Feel free to call the bug
anything you want if you can fix it.
> Was there a successful jump in the log file?
You tell me, below is all I have for one test cycle. I have many similar
test cycles logs.
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hat
> either.
Yup.
> PS: The bash version didn't work on NetBSD or FreeBSD either.
Yup. That is why I felt OK to change it. I was not worried about
breaking something already broken.
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ed:
$ export foo=3
$ (export foo=4; echo $foo)
$ echo $foo
Notice I have export twice? You just have it once.
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g..
gt;
> I tried it. FOO=xx inside () gets dropped after the )
Maybe: export FOO=xx ??
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o)
> 4
> sh-4.4$ echo $foo
> 3
> sh-4.4$
I see no 'export' in your example.
Try:
$ export foo=3
$ (export foo=4; echo $foo)
$ echo $foo
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nst int" would be as constant as a #define...
I just looked at gpsd, much more work needed on that project to kill
the VLAs.
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g.
packetPtr[totalLength];
^~~~
Should be easy to fix. Anyone want to try?
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Veritas
said he removed both of them a few seconds after I sent my
> email.
Don't take my word for it. Please check.
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Yo Project Manager!
Hal fixed the last two yesterday.
On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 13:32:15 -0700
"Mark Atwood, Project Manager" wrote:
> Looks straightforward enough. Ian?
>
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 12:02 PM Gary E. Miller via devel
> wrote:
>
> > Yo All!
> >
Yo Hal!
On Sun, 04 Nov 2018 14:46:57 -0800
Hal Murray via devel wrote:
> I doubt if ntpleapfetch ever worked. I don't use it.
It always worked for me.
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Yo Udo!
On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 06:11:55 +0200
Udo van den Heuvel via devel wrote:
> How or when will the ublox refclock be added to ntpsec?
Is there any point to it without the matching kernel driver?
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est, code,
repeat. When it works for you, and the PPS patches are in the kernel,
tell us how it works and we'll patch ntpd.
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d_product=239; USB provides
> power and data connection.
How do you get the PPS into the host? PPS over USB is hardly good to
1 millisecond.
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not even every Linux, uses systemd. NTPsec needs generic
solutions.
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md?
I looked more at Go programs on gentoo. Looks like 75% of them are
fully static. The rest needed libpthread and libc.
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g..
t something appropriate.
> >
> >
> > --
> > These are my opinions. I hate spam.
> >
> >
> >
> > ___
> > devel mailing list
> > devel@ntpsec.org
> > http://lists.ntpsec.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
> >
Yo Achim!
On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 21:17:53 +0200
Achim Gratz via devel wrote:
> Gary E. Miller via devel writes:
> > I've been working with RHEL for a few months now. Their insistence
> > on one version of every library is killing them. When just one
> > package needs an o
it might be best to just let Go the
threading for us in one main program. Go can do really clever and
easy parallelism.
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lients. Then a PTP client can
use NTP to server time to not PTP clients.
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ease pick previously unused first names.
Alice and Charlie are standard terms of cryptography, but are being used
differently here in a confusing way.
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poses a simple means to keep generating new short term
keys fomr old keys, so no need for further communication between the
NTS-KE and NTPD. Just once is enough.
Not to say that it can't, or shouldn't, get a bit more complicated, but
it is not required.
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.) is still undefined.
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"If you
ts. As required by the Proposed
RFC. Requiring a data center to completely rekey on startup would
create chaos.
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Yo Ian!
On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 17:19:22 -0600
Ian Bruene via devel wrote:
> On 01/06/2019 05:11 PM, Gary E. Miller via devel wrote:
> > Which is a big doc, so I'm still not sure which part we are talking
> > about here...
>
> /devel/nts.doc is a new, and currently very
cul-de-sac that doesn't match the actual
> requirements.
+1
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Yo Ian!
On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 17:01:08 -0600
Ian Bruene via devel wrote:
> On 01/06/2019 04:57 PM, Gary E. Miller via devel wrote:
> >> That is the one option that has been universally shot down as
> >> bad.
> > I'm not sure what option you refer to. Best in discuss
ght improvement.
> Note: Answers by reply email will be good. Answers edited into
> nts.adoc would be even better.
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ating Alpha and Bravo as the same entity.
And ignoring they are also Delta.
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.org/wiki/Assume_a_can_opener
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"If you can’t m
over time.
Things like encryption algorithm and hash algorithm will change over
time. Also key sizes.
So, how does the NTS-KE and NTPD server know what cookie format(s) are
in use? How does the NTS-KE server know which cookie formats to issue
for which NTPD servers?
RGDS
GARY
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ow how NTS-KE and NTPD servers and clients interoperate. Partly
as a way to help us partition things in the code.
RGDS
GARY
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m pooling/load balancing?
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GARY
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"If you can’t measure it, you can’t impro
. They contain S2C and C2S which depend
> on the TLS sesson key.
I see no such requirement in the Proposed RFC. My expectation is
exactly the reverse. Did I miss something?
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GARY
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> change the size of a field. Not likely, but worth thinking about.
Not likely? I bet it happens all the time as support for other brands
of NTS-KE and NTPD are added. Also as the threat models evolve. Once
again, look at the SSL/TLS evolution for how frequent this will be.
RGDS
GARY
The second part. I find no support for your second statement in the
Proposed RFC.
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GARY
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Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703
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that sentence more than one way...
> It's also unlikely for the initial server, but reasonably likely for
> the future.
I'm having trouble expanding your reuse of 'it' to mean different things...
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GARY
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d RFC calls it: the current master key.
This master key is used to make new C2S and S2C as required, on demand.
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GARY
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