Re: [freenet-dev] More on FCP Frozen Socket Problem

2003-09-23 Thread David McNab
On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 17:00, Salah Coronya wrote: > Try build 6205, it seems to work better - non-local FCP connection no > longer hang and actually get data. Beee-yoodiful - no more lockups. Thanks! :) Cheers David ___ Devl mailing list [EMAIL PROT

[freenet-dev] Build Available

2003-09-23 Thread Brandon Low
I probably shouldn't do this again, but I've made a build available on my webserver which is from the latest CVS at the time of this writing. That means it is 6205 + Blacklisting of bad node connections + No long locking on lru in OCM thanks to Edward. http://lostlogicx.com/transfer/freenet-6205.3

Re: [freenet-dev] Re: [freenet-CVS] freenet/src/freenet DSAIdentity.java, 1.2, 1.3

2003-09-23 Thread Edward J. Huff
On Tue, 2003-09-23 at 23:45, Brandon Low wrote: > I get a build error on this: > [javac] /home/lostlogic/freenet/src/freenet/DSAIdentity.java:64: > variable hashed might already have been assigned > [javac] hashed = makeHashCode(); > > --Brandon > Sorry about th

Re: [freenet-dev] More on FCP Frozen Socket Problem

2003-09-23 Thread Salah Coronya
David McNab wrote: On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 11:17, Toad wrote: What build number? Oops - sorry - 5028 Try build 6205, it seems to work better - non-local FCP connection no longer hang and actually get data. ___ Devl mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:

Re: [freenet-dev] Compute bound thread stack dumps

2003-09-23 Thread Brandon Low
Good work on that... seems to make a noticible performance improvement to my node... Definitely reduces the computational cost of connections. --Brandon On Tue, 09/23/03 at 21:49:53 -0400, Edward J. Huff wrote: > Zlatin Balevsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted a stack dump. > I looked at it, and wonde

[freenet-CVS] freenet/src/freenet DSAIdentity.java,1.3,1.4

2003-09-23 Thread Brandon Low
Update of /cvsroot/freenet/freenet/src/freenet In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv16563 Modified Files: DSAIdentity.java Log Message: Minor fix for Edward's stuff... (can't make hash code twice...) Index: DSAIdentity.java ===

Re: [freenet-CVS] freenet/src/freenet DSAIdentity.java,1.2,1.3

2003-09-23 Thread Brandon Low
I get a build error on this: [javac] /home/lostlogic/freenet/src/freenet/DSAIdentity.java:64: variable hashed might already have been assigned [javac] hashed = makeHashCode(); --Brandon On Tue, 09/23/03 at 18:21:34 -0700, Edward J. Huff wrote: > Update of /cvsr

[freenet-dev] Compute bound after stop-freenet

2003-09-23 Thread Edward J. Huff
Ok, that one was fairly easy to figure out once you get the hang of it. I see 40 threads waiting on <0x45678030> (a freenet.diagnostics.Binomial), and the thread which has the lock is reversing the elements of a doubly linked list. "QThread-93870" prio=1 tid=0x0x59478ab0 nid=0x5fe4 runnable [5

Re: [freenet-dev] Compute bound thread stack dumps

2003-09-23 Thread Edward J. Huff
On Tue, 2003-09-23 at 21:49, Edward J. Huff wrote: > Zlatin Balevsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted a stack dump. > I looked at it, and wondered, "how did he do that?" > > So I googled "java stack dump" and found out: > kill -QUIT `cat freenet.pid` > > Shortly thereafter, my node became compute bou

[freenet-dev] Compute bound thread stack dumps

2003-09-23 Thread Edward J. Huff
Zlatin Balevsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted a stack dump. I looked at it, and wondered, "how did he do that?" So I googled "java stack dump" and found out: kill -QUIT `cat freenet.pid` Shortly thereafter, my node became compute bound. Sun recommends for compute bound tasks, you should take seve

[freenet-dev] RFC: Decaying Partial Keys

2003-09-23 Thread Dan Merillat
With the ever popular talk of revokable keys, I'd like to propose an alternative as a thought experiment. It's got holes yet but does address some problems revokable keys have. It's rather rough because I had just finished first-drafting it when I got called away on a server crash, so I'm sending

[freenet-CVS] freenet/src/freenet DSAIdentity.java,1.2,1.3

2003-09-23 Thread Edward J. Huff
Update of /cvsroot/freenet/freenet/src/freenet In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv23607 Modified Files: DSAIdentity.java Log Message: Compute hash code only once and save it in object. Index: DSAIdentity.java === RCS file

Re: [freenet-dev] project freesite

2003-09-23 Thread Dan Merillat
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, Tracy R Reed wrote: > On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 11:20:50AM +0200, Some Guy spake thusly: > > What trust issues? It should be impossible to > > download a faulty build from such a freesite, since > > the whole site would be certified by the private key. > > And if the key is c

Re: [freenet-dev] Interesting idea

2003-09-23 Thread Dan Merillat
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, Benny Amorsen wrote: > On 2003-09-23 at 10:50, pineapple wrote: > > > So far my node seems to be working ok as well as my web server, mail > > server and ftp server. I didn't consider that these messages could > > impact my network. What outside ICMP traffic would you NOT b

Re: [freenet-dev] Interesting idea

2003-09-23 Thread Dan Merillat
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, pineapple wrote: > Ah, I could have been more clear about this, but I > meant I blocked all the ICMP traffic my firewall > allows. I'm running Tiny Firewall on a WinXP Home > install (strangely, I couldn't get Tiny to work with > PRO) and all traffic is blocked unless it's >

Re: [freenet-dev] Interesting idea

2003-09-23 Thread Dan Merillat
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Toad wrote: > On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 03:02:42PM -0700, Ian Clarke wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 10:41:04PM +0100, Toad wrote: > > > From time to time, reimplementing TCP, or using UDP, has been suggested > > > for Freenet. I will now show that Freenet's future security r

Re: [freenet-dev] Probabilistic queryreject

2003-09-23 Thread Todd Walton
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, Tom Kaitchuck wrote: > On Tuesday 23 September 2003 12:22 am, Todd Walton wrote: > > > If there are other nodes on the network that you trust, you could > > > exchange this information with them, and have a much better idea of their > > > specialization. Also this could also p

Re: [freenet-dev] karma, fixing freenet

2003-09-23 Thread Todd Walton
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Toad wrote: > Yeah, reimplementing Mojo Nation will solve all our problems! Repeat > after me the mantra "there's no problem on earth a market cannot > solve... lalalalalalalalalala"... Markets and NGRouting. -todd ___ Devl mailing

Re: [freenet-dev] Interesting idea

2003-09-23 Thread Toad
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 04:23:52PM -0700, Tracy R Reed wrote: > On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 12:09:40AM +0100, Toad spake thusly: > > Wrong. Total bullshit. A 12 year old kiddie can DoS an address IF HE HAS > > OR CAN ACQUIRE MORE BANDWIDTH THAN THE TARGET. Otherwise the internet > > would have been com

Re: [freenet-dev] More on FCP Frozen Socket Problem

2003-09-23 Thread David McNab
On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 11:17, Toad wrote: > What build number? Oops - sorry - 5028 > > On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 11:37:31PM +1200, David McNab wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I've seen more appearances of the FCP socket freeze-up problem. > > > > It seems this bug only affects FCP communications, and only

Re: [freenet-dev] Interesting idea

2003-09-23 Thread Toad
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 04:23:52PM -0700, Tracy R Reed wrote: > On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 12:09:40AM +0100, Toad spake thusly: > > Wrong. Total bullshit. A 12 year old kiddie can DoS an address IF HE HAS > > OR CAN ACQUIRE MORE BANDWIDTH THAN THE TARGET. Otherwise the internet > > would have been com

Re: [freenet-dev] Interesting idea

2003-09-23 Thread Tracy R Reed
On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 12:09:40AM +0100, Toad spake thusly: > Wrong. Total bullshit. A 12 year old kiddie can DoS an address IF HE HAS > OR CAN ACQUIRE MORE BANDWIDTH THAN THE TARGET. Otherwise the internet > would have been completely destroyed aeons ago. I think you are coming on just a bit too

Re: [freenet-dev] More on FCP Frozen Socket Problem

2003-09-23 Thread Toad
What build number? On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 11:37:31PM +1200, David McNab wrote: > Hi, > > I've seen more appearances of the FCP socket freeze-up problem. > > It seems this bug only affects FCP communications, and only when more > than one data chunk is sent. > > For me, I'm only seeing the bug

Re: [freenet-dev] project freesite

2003-09-23 Thread Toad
It would not help at all because the insertor would need all the keys, and if it is compromized, it is the insertor that is compromized. The solution is "revocable SSKs". Basically, you have a list of SSKs to check before allowing access to the site, and if any of them have been inserted, you flag

Re: [freenet-dev] Interesting idea

2003-09-23 Thread Toad
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 03:02:42PM -0700, Ian Clarke wrote: > On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 10:41:04PM +0100, Toad wrote: > > From time to time, reimplementing TCP, or using UDP, has been suggested > > for Freenet. I will now show that Freenet's future security requires it. > > An attacker who can observ

Re: [freenet-dev] URI clash with freenet

2003-09-23 Thread Toad
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 08:51:31PM -0400, Edward J. Huff wrote: > On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 20:18, David McNab wrote: > > On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 10:24, Bogdan Butnaru wrote: > > > I write this message because I noticed there is a clash between the > > > Amphetadesk (sourceforge.net/projects/amphetadesk

Re: [freenet-dev] karma, fixing freenet

2003-09-23 Thread Toad
Yeah, reimplementing Mojo Nation will solve all our problems! Repeat after me the mantra "there's no problem on earth a market cannot solve... lalalalalalalalalala"... -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is im

Re: [freenet-dev] IllegalMonitorStatException

2003-09-23 Thread Toad
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 11:55:22PM +0200, Niklas Bergh wrote: > >On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 06:06:24PM +0200, Niklas Bergh wrote: > >> This shouldn't happen, should it? Is that 200 ms wait necessary anymore > >> (wasn't it fixed with the LD_ASSUME_KERNELXX workaround)? > > >I don't think so. And even

Re: [freenet-dev] Probabilistic queryreject

2003-09-23 Thread Tom Kaitchuck
On Tuesday 23 September 2003 12:22 am, Todd Walton wrote: > > If there are other nodes on the network that you trust, you could > > exchange this information with them, and have a much better idea of their > > specialization. Also this could also provide a basis for a > > non-alchemistic gage for w

[freenet-dev] Decreasing upstream bandwidth over time in 6205

2003-09-23 Thread Martin Stone Davis
When I started 6205 about 14 hours ago, the upstream bandwidth was consistently near the limit of 10,000 bytes/sec. Now it's consistently low at around 1,000 bytes/sec. Also, my CPU usage is consistently around 90-98%. I'm running Windows XP Pro with Java 1.4.2-b28. Here's some more info you

[freenet-dev] Re: [repost] white thread bug

2003-09-23 Thread Michael Schierl
On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 14:16:58 -0700, Ian Clarke wrote: > On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 10:05:20PM +0100, Toad wrote: >> Did you compile fred from source? >> You NEED to ant clean before you ant. > > What would be the cost of just removing all final variables from Fred so > that this time-consuming reco

[freenet-dev] Experimental FProxy replacement

2003-09-23 Thread David McNab
Hi, I've written a lightweight HTTP proxy interface to Freenet, that uses FCP to retrieve pages. http://www.freenet.org.nz/python/pyFreenet Seems to be working well enough to at least try out. Works much faster than FProxy. However, at this stage there is no content filtering implemented. So d

Re: [freenet-dev] project freesite

2003-09-23 Thread Tracy R Reed
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 11:59:43AM +0200, Benny Amorsen spake thusly: > Right now freenet is most commonly downloaded from a non-secure site, > just authenticated by a non-secure DNS lookup. Most people use the > precompiled jar file, and even the source-compiled one fetches binary > stuff to put i

[freenet-dev] More on FCP Frozen Socket Problem

2003-09-23 Thread David McNab
Hi, I've seen more appearances of the FCP socket freeze-up problem. It seems this bug only affects FCP communications, and only when more than one data chunk is sent. For me, I'm only seeing the bug when connecting from an FCP client on one machine to a node on another. With small keys (which d

Re: [freenet-dev] project freesite

2003-09-23 Thread Some Guy
--- Tracy R Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And if the key is compromised and a trojan build put > in place? > > Those trust issues. > > They need revokable keys so that then the compromise > is detected they can > prevent people from downloading the bad build. The > implications of a > privac

Re: [freenet-dev] Probabilistic queryreject

2003-09-23 Thread Some Guy
I'm going to reply to a several responses at once. ---Ian Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Reject queries for things outside your > specialization > > first. > > Terrible idea - specialization should occur > naturally, it doesn't have > to be forced artificially, and doing so will be > harm

Re: [freenet-dev] project freesite

2003-09-23 Thread Benny Amorsen
On 2003-09-23 at 11:26, Tracy R Reed wrote: > And if the key is compromised and a trojan build put in place? > > Those trust issues. > > They need revokable keys so that then the compromise is detected they can > prevent people from downloading the bad build. The implications of a > privacy comp

Re: [freenet-dev] project freesite

2003-09-23 Thread Tracy R Reed
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 11:20:50AM +0200, Some Guy spake thusly: > What trust issues? It should be impossible to > download a faulty build from such a freesite, since > the whole site would be certified by the private key. And if the key is compromised and a trojan build put in place? Those tru

Re: [freenet-dev] Interesting idea

2003-09-23 Thread Benny Amorsen
On 2003-09-23 at 10:50, pineapple wrote: > So far my node seems to be working ok as well as my web server, mail > server and ftp server. I didn't consider that these messages could > impact my network. What outside ICMP traffic would you NOT block > (besides PMTU as you said)? I have not been a

Re: [freenet-dev] project freesite

2003-09-23 Thread Some Guy
> Could the project create and maintain a freesite? > It would be a vanilla > freesite with information about recent builds, > freenet clients and > perhaps some open-source news of general interest. > Since there are > trust issues with providing builds for download it > may be a better idea

Re[2]: [freenet-dev] Interesting idea

2003-09-23 Thread Alejandro. R. Mosteo Chagoyen
Dicho por pineapple: > Ah, I could have been more clear about this, but I > meant I blocked all the ICMP traffic my firewall > allows. I'm running Tiny Firewall on a WinXP Home > install (strangely, I couldn't get Tiny to work with > PRO) and all traffic is blocked unless it's > specifically allow

Re: [freenet-dev] Interesting idea

2003-09-23 Thread pineapple
Ah, I could have been more clear about this, but I meant I blocked all the ICMP traffic my firewall allows. I'm running Tiny Firewall on a WinXP Home install (strangely, I couldn't get Tiny to work with PRO) and all traffic is blocked unless it's specifically allowed. So far my node seems to be w

Re: [freenet-dev] Interesting idea

2003-09-23 Thread Benny Amorsen
On 2003-09-23 at 06:02, pineapple wrote: > Actually, I saw someone attempt this in my firewall's > logfile. Of course, I block ALL outside ICMP traffic > to my network. Congratulations. You have just broken TCP. (Hint: PMTU discovery, for one thing). /Benny _

Re: [freenet-dev] high cpu - ngr.references()

2003-09-23 Thread Niklas Bergh
Puhh.. latest unstable code is s much more CPU friendly.. it is like it was at about 6194 which was about the point where the latest unstable started permanently using up 100% CPU. Unfortunately I cannot tell the exact build but it certainly was around there... Another difference (poss