[freenet-dev] Installer redux

2008-12-15 Thread Florent Daignière
e online installer is straightforward... building the offline one is a bit trickier as you've to "tell" the installer where the required packs are. [snip.] > > > > I'm not arguing we should invest $ into getting a signed certificate. I > > am sure we have professional developers here who do have a valid, > > trusted certificate. > > Whom we can trust? Such as? I don't think it's a matter of trust here; well, I don't know; I do have one for instance and I'm sure we could find others if we asked. Would anyone reading this mailing list volunteer to build and sign one of our installers? -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20081215/97028344/attachment.pgp>

[freenet-dev] Installer redux

2008-12-15 Thread Florent Daignière
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[freenet-dev] I need help with Db4o / Freetalk

2008-12-15 Thread xor
> -Original Message- > From: Matthew Toseland [mailto:toad at amphibian.dyndns.org] > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 7:30 PM > To: xor > Subject: Re: I need help with Db4o / Freetalk > > On Monday 15 December 2008 13:45, you wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > there is a severe Db4o problem

[freenet-dev] Installer redux

2008-12-15 Thread Matthew Toseland
promise to use > Microsoft's own signing tools for the Windows installer (again: if we > actually want to sign the .exe in this way). Nextgens would certainly object to running Microsoft provided binaries on emu, and I can see his point. There is an argument for just providing a gpg signature for the binaries - but otoh since Microsoft provides a signing/verification system we should seriously consider using it. > > > Also, would we need to buy a separate code signing certificate for signing > > windows EXEs? Or could we use one derived from the StartCom cert or derived > > from a code signing cert bought for signing jars? > > A bit out of my league. I'm not that much into all this signing stuff. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 827 bytes Desc: not available URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20081215/3af71f2c/attachment.pgp>

[freenet-dev] Installer redux

2008-12-15 Thread Zero3
Matthew Toseland skrev: > On Saturday 13 December 2008 17:40, Zero3 wrote: > >> Matthew Toseland skrev: >> >>> Issues for the installer. Both Zero3 and nextgens seem to have decided to >>> sulk, so I'll arbitrarily decide these issues where there is deadlock and >>> > if > >>>

[freenet-dev] I need help with Db4o / Freetalk

2008-12-15 Thread xor
Hi, there is a severe Db4o problem in Freetalk: Instances of class Message can only be created with a non-null member variable mAuthor. Further, mAuthor is final. So when receiving messages, the mAuthor field is definitely non-null when the Message objects are stored in the database. HOWEVER,

[freenet-dev] Installer redux

2008-12-15 Thread Ian Clarke
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Matthew Toseland wrote: > Nextgens would certainly object to running Microsoft provided binaries on emu, > and I can see his point. ...which is? We're the Freenet Project, not the "anti-Microsoft" project. If using some Microsoft code helps us to offer a better

[freenet-dev] Installer redux

2008-12-15 Thread Ian Clarke
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 10:29 AM, Zero3 wrote: nextgens and Zero3 to equal degrees. >>> I hope that's just meant as a joke... :-/ >> It was not intended as a joke at the time. > Great way of making decisions then :-/ Obviously it was a joke, you people really need to get a grip - this whole

[freenet-dev] DatabaseClosedException

2008-12-15 Thread Daniel Cheng
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 12:46 AM, xor wrote: > > Hi, > > users are having the DatabaseClosedException appear with Freetalk/WoT > randomly. Now I also received it, and I found the log line which caused it > MAYBE. > Now the question is, what is the reason for that? A db4o bug probably? Maybe > we

[freenet-dev] Update for Finnish translation

2008-12-15 Thread Samu Voutilainen
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[freenet-dev] DatabaseClosedException

2008-12-15 Thread xor
> -Original Message- > From: devl-bounces at freenetproject.org > [mailto:devl-bounces at freenetproject.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Cheng > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 12:59 AM > To: Discussion of development issues > Subject: Re: [freenet-dev] DatabaseClosedException > > On Mon, Dec

[freenet-dev] I need help with Db4o / Freetalk

2008-12-15 Thread xor
Hi, there is a severe Db4o problem in Freetalk: Instances of class Message can only be created with a non-null member variable mAuthor. Further, mAuthor is final. So when receiving messages, the mAuthor field is definitely non-null when the Message objects are stored in the database. HOWEVER,

Re: [freenet-dev] Installer redux

2008-12-15 Thread Ian Clarke
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Matthew Toseland t...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote: Nextgens would certainly object to running Microsoft provided binaries on emu, and I can see his point. ...which is? We're the Freenet Project, not the anti-Microsoft project. If using some Microsoft code helps

Re: [freenet-dev] I need help with Db4o / Freetalk

2008-12-15 Thread xor
-Original Message- From: Matthew Toseland [mailto:t...@amphibian.dyndns.org] Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 7:30 PM To: xor Subject: Re: I need help with Db4o / Freetalk On Monday 15 December 2008 13:45, you wrote: Hi, there is a severe Db4o problem in Freetalk:

Re: [freenet-dev] Installer redux

2008-12-15 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Monday 15 December 2008 20:35, Ian Clarke wrote: On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Matthew Toseland t...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote: Nextgens would certainly object to running Microsoft provided binaries on emu, and I can see his point. ...which is? We're the Freenet Project, not

Re: [freenet-dev] Installer: Building a windows installer on emu?using AutoHotKey

2008-12-15 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Sunday 14 December 2008 12:48, Ian Clarke wrote: On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 8:16 PM, Zero3 ze...@zerosplayground.dk wrote: That covers mine, toads and nextgens opinions. What do everyone else think? Here are my thoughts: Bundling -- I don't have a problem with bundling per-se

Re: [freenet-dev] Installer redux

2008-12-15 Thread Florent Daignière
* Ian Clarke ian.cla...@gmail.com [2008-12-15 14:35:19]: On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Matthew Toseland t...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote: Nextgens would certainly object to running Microsoft provided binaries on emu, and I can see his point. ...which is? As explained for the

Re: [freenet-dev] Installer redux

2008-12-15 Thread Florent Daignière
* Matthew Toseland t...@amphibian.dyndns.org [2008-12-13 19:20:21]: On Saturday 13 December 2008 18:57, Florent Daignière wrote: * Matthew Toseland t...@amphibian.dyndns.org [2008-12-13 18:01:03]: On Saturday 13 December 2008 17:22, Florent Daignière wrote: In any case we are NOT

Re: [freenet-dev] Installer: Building a windows installer on emu?using AutoHotKey

2008-12-15 Thread Florent Daignière
* Matthew Toseland t...@amphibian.dyndns.org [2008-12-15 23:10:57]: On Sunday 14 December 2008 12:48, Ian Clarke wrote: On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 8:16 PM, Zero3 ze...@zerosplayground.dk wrote: That covers mine, toads and nextgens opinions. What do everyone else think? Here are my

Re: [freenet-dev] Installer: Building a windows installer on emu?using AutoHotKey

2008-12-15 Thread Florent Daignière
* Ian Clarke ian.cla...@gmail.com [2008-12-14 06:56:22]: On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Florent Daignière nextg...@freenetproject.org wrote: Don't worry: that's the last reply you will get from me. I have more important things to spare my free time on. Okay so you concede. I'll

Re: [freenet-dev] Installer redux

2008-12-15 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Monday 15 December 2008 23:58, Florent Daignière wrote: * Matthew Toseland t...@amphibian.dyndns.org [2008-12-13 19:20:21]: On Saturday 13 December 2008 18:57, Florent Daignière wrote: * Matthew Toseland t...@amphibian.dyndns.org [2008-12-13 18:01:03]: On Saturday 13 December

Re: [freenet-dev] Installer: Building a windows installer on emu using AutoHotKey

2008-12-15 Thread Florent Daignière
* Ian Clarke ian.cla...@gmail.com [2008-12-12 17:56:59]: On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Florent Daignière nextg...@freenetproject.org wrote: I don't care what you'd say. You are pushing for infrastructure changes to be made: you are the one making demands here. The policy is what it is:

Re: [freenet-dev] Installer: Building a windows installer on emu?using AutoHotKey

2008-12-15 Thread Florent Daignière
* Ian Clarke i...@freenetproject.org [2008-12-14 06:48:57]: On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 8:16 PM, Zero3 ze...@zerosplayground.dk wrote: That covers mine, toads and nextgens opinions. What do everyone else think? Here are my thoughts: Bundling -- I don't have a problem with bundling

Re: [freenet-dev] Installer redux

2008-12-15 Thread Florent Daignière
* Matthew Toseland t...@amphibian.dyndns.org [2008-12-16 00:14:58]: On Monday 15 December 2008 23:58, Florent Daignière wrote: * Matthew Toseland t...@amphibian.dyndns.org [2008-12-13 19:20:21]: On Saturday 13 December 2008 18:57, Florent Daignière wrote: * Matthew Toseland

Re: [freenet-dev] Installer redux

2008-12-15 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Tuesday 16 December 2008 00:24, Florent Daignière wrote: I'm not arguing we should invest $ into getting a signed certificate. I am sure we have professional developers here who do have a valid, trusted certificate. Whom we can trust? Such as? I don't think

Re: [freenet-dev] Installer redux

2008-12-15 Thread Florent Daignière
* Matthew Toseland t...@amphibian.dyndns.org [2008-12-16 00:28:54]: I'm not arguing we should invest $ into getting a signed certificate. I am sure we have professional developers here who do have a valid, trusted certificate. Whom we can trust? Such as? I

Re: [freenet-dev] [freenet-cvs] r24348 - trunk/freenet/src/freenet/pluginmanager

2008-12-15 Thread Daniel Cheng
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 7:37 PM, x...@freenetproject.org wrote: Author: xor Date: 2008-12-15 11:37:52 + (Mon, 15 Dec 2008) New Revision: 24348 Added: trunk/freenet/src/freenet/pluginmanager/FredPluginWithClassLoader.java Log: Add code to allow plugins to know their ClassLoader. Db4o

Re: [freenet-dev] I need help with Db4o / Freetalk

2008-12-15 Thread Daniel Cheng
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 9:45 PM, xor x...@gmx.li wrote: Hi, there is a severe Db4o problem in Freetalk: Instances of class Message can only be created with a non-null member variable mAuthor. Further, mAuthor is final. So when receiving messages, the Did you try to make it non-final? Maybe

Re: [freenet-dev] Installer redux

2008-12-15 Thread Daniel Cheng
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 12:29 AM, Zero3 ze...@zerosplayground.dk wrote: Matthew Toseland skrev: On Saturday 13 December 2008 17:40, Zero3 wrote: Matthew Toseland skrev: Issues for the installer. Both Zero3 and nextgens seem to have decided to sulk, so I'll arbitrarily decide these issues