[freenet-dev] Installer redux

2008-12-13 Thread Florent Daignière
> > In any case we are NOT protected from the compromise of emu nor by the > > compromise of the key used to sign the installer. > > Exactly. Right now we build both the installers and the jars on emu. If emu > is > compromised, it can supply bogus installers and bogus jars. If we move the >

[freenet-dev] Installer redux

2008-12-13 Thread Florent Daignière
* Matthew Toseland [2008-12-13 12:21:01]: > Issues for the installer. Both Zero3 and nextgens seem to have decided to > sulk, so I'll arbitrarily decide these issues where there is deadlock and if > anyone objects he can reply to this thread with a reasoned argument. > > 1. Whether we should

Re: [freenet-dev] Installer redux

2008-12-13 Thread Florent Daignière
* Matthew Toseland t...@amphibian.dyndns.org [2008-12-13 12:21:01]: Issues for the installer. Both Zero3 and nextgens seem to have decided to sulk, so I'll arbitrarily decide these issues where there is deadlock and if anyone objects he can reply to this thread with a reasoned argument.

Re: [freenet-dev] Installer redux

2008-12-13 Thread Florent Daignière
In any case we are NOT protected from the compromise of emu nor by the compromise of the key used to sign the installer. Exactly. Right now we build both the installers and the jars on emu. If emu is compromised, it can supply bogus installers and bogus jars. If we move the building

Re: [freenet-dev] Installer: Building a windows installer on emu using AutoHotKey

2008-12-13 Thread Florent Daignière
* Ian Clarke ian.cla...@gmail.com [2008-12-12 17:56:59]: On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Florent Daignière nextg...@freenetproject.org wrote: I don't care what you'd say. You are pushing for infrastructure changes to be made: you are the one making demands here. The policy is what

Re: [freenet-dev] Installer redux

2008-12-13 Thread Florent Daignière
* Matthew Toseland t...@amphibian.dyndns.org [2008-12-13 18:01:03]: On Saturday 13 December 2008 17:22, Florent Daignière wrote: In any case we are NOT protected from the compromise of emu nor by the compromise of the key used to sign the installer. Exactly. Right now we build

[freenet-dev] Installer: Building a windows installer on emu using AutoHotKey

2008-12-12 Thread Florent Daignière
> I'm not really trying to discuss how the builds should be signed > (another discussion really), No, it's not. THEY SHOULD NOT BE SIGNED ON EMU EITHER! and it's not because we are doing it wrong at the moment that we should extend the "bad" behaviour. > but trying to figure out why you can

[freenet-dev] Installer: Windows: Running from the start menu

2008-12-12 Thread Florent Daignière
* Zero3 [2008-12-12 02:37:21]: > Florent Daigni?re skrev: > >> How do you suggest it would? > >> > > > > Start the node as a user, shut it down, login as admin, start the node > > up... it creates new files, shut it down... then the user doesn't have > > access to the newly created files.

[freenet-dev] Installer: Building a windows installer on emu?using AutoHotKey

2008-12-12 Thread Florent Daignière
* Zero3 [2008-12-12 02:06:54]: > Florent Daigni?re skrev: > > * Matthew Toseland [2008-12-12 00:06:31]: > > > > > >> On Thursday 11 December 2008 23:46, Florent Daigni?re wrote: > >> > >>> * Zero3 [2008-12-11 19:18:30]: > >>> > >>> > > Disadvantages: > > - Have to do

[freenet-dev] Installer: Windows: Running from the start menu

2008-12-12 Thread Florent Daignière
* Zero3 [2008-12-12 01:56:49]: > Matthew Toseland skrev: > > On Thursday 11 December 2008 23:36, Matthew Toseland wrote: > > > >> Nextgens has pointed out that we can't run it from All Users, because > >> > > running > > > >> it as one user (especially admin) will change the

[freenet-dev] Installer: Windows: Running from the start menu

2008-12-12 Thread Florent Daignière
* Zero3 [2008-12-12 01:54:26]: > Florent Daigni?re skrev: > > * Zero3 [2008-12-11 19:06:26]: > > > >> Matthew Toseland skrev: > >> > >>> Zero3 is very keen that we should run from the start menu from the > >>> installing > >>> user, rather than installing a service. This has a number

[freenet-dev] Installer: Building a windows installer on emu using AutoHotKey

2008-12-12 Thread Florent Daignière
* Zero3 [2008-12-12 01:48:40]: > Florent Daigni?re skrev: > > * Zero3 [2008-12-11 19:18:30]: > > > >>> Disadvantages: > >>> - Have to do some work on emu. > >>> > > > > That alone is a good reason why *not* to do it. I don't see why > > installers should be auto-built nor built from

[freenet-dev] Installer: Building a windows installer on emu?using AutoHotKey

2008-12-12 Thread Florent Daignière
* Matthew Toseland [2008-12-12 00:06:31]: > On Thursday 11 December 2008 23:46, Florent Daigni?re wrote: > > * Zero3 [2008-12-11 19:18:30]: > > > > > > Disadvantages: > > > > - Have to do some work on emu. > > > > That alone is a good reason why *not* to do it. I don't see why > > installers

[freenet-dev] Installer: Windows: Running from the start menu

2008-12-12 Thread Florent Daignière
* Zero3 [2008-12-11 19:06:26]: > Matthew Toseland skrev: > > Zero3 is very keen that we should run from the start menu from the > > installing > > user, rather than installing a service. This has a number of advantages: > > - It will be possible to kill Freenet from Task Manager. Not being

Re: [freenet-dev] Installer: Building a windows installer on emu using AutoHotKey

2008-12-12 Thread Florent Daignière
I'm not really trying to discuss how the builds should be signed (another discussion really), No, it's not. THEY SHOULD NOT BE SIGNED ON EMU EITHER! and it's not because we are doing it wrong at the moment that we should extend the bad behaviour. but trying to figure out why you can sign

[freenet-dev] Installer: Building a windows installer on emu using AutoHotKey

2008-12-11 Thread Florent Daignière
* Zero3 [2008-12-11 19:18:30]: > > Disadvantages: > > - Have to do some work on emu. That alone is a good reason why *not* to do it. I don't see why installers should be auto-built nor built from emu for that matter. > > - Very few of the developers run Windows, or are familiar with AHK, so if

[freenet-dev] Installer: Building a windows installer on emu using AutoHotKey

2008-12-11 Thread Florent Daignière
* Matthew Toseland [2008-12-11 16:47:23]: > Zero3 has been working on a simple, fast windows-specific installer using > AutoHotKey. Good for him > AHK is GPL, runs well under Wine according to winehq, and has a > command-line compiler. Wine can be built without the X libraries and does not

[freenet-dev] Installer: shipping a full bundle

2008-12-11 Thread Florent Daignière
* Matthew Toseland [2008-12-11 16:26:37]: > IMHO we should ship a full bundle-installer by default, i.e. one including > the > latest main jar, the latest extra jar, the latest plugins. > ADVANTAGES: > - Security: Once you have obtained the installer, somehow (over Tor, from a > friend, etc

Re: [freenet-dev] Installer: shipping a full bundle

2008-12-11 Thread Florent Daignière
* Matthew Toseland t...@amphibian.dyndns.org [2008-12-11 16:26:37]: IMHO we should ship a full bundle-installer by default, i.e. one including the latest main jar, the latest extra jar, the latest plugins. ADVANTAGES: - Security: Once you have obtained the installer, somehow (over Tor,

Re: [freenet-dev] Installer: Building a windows installer on emu using AutoHotKey

2008-12-11 Thread Florent Daignière
* Matthew Toseland t...@amphibian.dyndns.org [2008-12-11 16:47:23]: Zero3 has been working on a simple, fast windows-specific installer using AutoHotKey. Good for him AHK is GPL, runs well under Wine according to winehq, and has a command-line compiler. Wine can be built without the X

Re: [freenet-dev] Installer: Building a windows installer on emu using AutoHotKey

2008-12-11 Thread Florent Daignière
* Zero3 ze...@zerosplayground.dk [2008-12-11 19:18:30]: Disadvantages: - Have to do some work on emu. That alone is a good reason why *not* to do it. I don't see why installers should be auto-built nor built from emu for that matter. - Very few of the developers run Windows, or are

Re: [freenet-dev] Installer: Windows: Running from the start menu

2008-12-11 Thread Florent Daignière
* Zero3 ze...@zerosplayground.dk [2008-12-11 19:06:26]: Matthew Toseland skrev: Zero3 is very keen that we should run from the start menu from the installing user, rather than installing a service. This has a number of advantages: - It will be possible to kill Freenet from Task

Re: [freenet-dev] Installer: Building a windows installer on emu?using AutoHotKey

2008-12-11 Thread Florent Daignière
* Matthew Toseland t...@amphibian.dyndns.org [2008-12-12 00:06:31]: On Thursday 11 December 2008 23:46, Florent Daignière wrote: * Zero3 ze...@zerosplayground.dk [2008-12-11 19:18:30]: Disadvantages: - Have to do some work on emu. That alone is a good reason why *not* to do

Re: [freenet-dev] Installer: Building a windows installer on emu using AutoHotKey

2008-12-11 Thread Florent Daignière
* Zero3 ze...@zerosplayground.dk [2008-12-12 01:48:40]: Florent Daignière skrev: * Zero3 ze...@zerosplayground.dk [2008-12-11 19:18:30]: Disadvantages: - Have to do some work on emu. That alone is a good reason why *not* to do it. I don't see why installers should

Re: [freenet-dev] Installer: Windows: Running from the start menu

2008-12-11 Thread Florent Daignière
* Zero3 ze...@zerosplayground.dk [2008-12-12 01:54:26]: Florent Daignière skrev: * Zero3 ze...@zerosplayground.dk [2008-12-11 19:06:26]: Matthew Toseland skrev: Zero3 is very keen that we should run from the start menu from the installing user, rather than installing

Re: [freenet-dev] Installer: Windows: Running from the start menu

2008-12-11 Thread Florent Daignière
* Zero3 ze...@zerosplayground.dk [2008-12-12 01:56:49]: Matthew Toseland skrev: On Thursday 11 December 2008 23:36, Matthew Toseland wrote: Nextgens has pointed out that we can't run it from All Users, because running it as one user (especially admin) will change the

Re: [freenet-dev] Installer: Building a windows installer on emu?using AutoHotKey

2008-12-11 Thread Florent Daignière
* Zero3 ze...@zerosplayground.dk [2008-12-12 02:06:54]: Florent Daignière skrev: * Matthew Toseland t...@amphibian.dyndns.org [2008-12-12 00:06:31]: On Thursday 11 December 2008 23:46, Florent Daignière wrote: * Zero3 ze...@zerosplayground.dk [2008-12-11 19:18:30

Re: [freenet-dev] Installer: Building a windows installer on emu using AutoHotKey

2008-12-11 Thread Florent Daignière
* Zero3 ze...@zerosplayground.dk [2008-12-12 02:28:18]: Florent Daignière skrev: * Zero3 ze...@zerosplayground.dk [2008-12-12 01:48:40]: Florent Daignière skrev: * Zero3 ze...@zerosplayground.dk [2008-12-11 19:18:30]: Disadvantages: - Have to do some work

[freenet-dev] Moving more stuff into the wizard; geeks vs?users was Re: Installation -

2008-11-28 Thread Florent Daignière
* Matthew Toseland [2008-11-26 23:55:25]: > On Wednesday 26 November 2008 00:26, Florent Daigni?re wrote: > > * Zero3 [2008-11-26 00:08:17]: > > > > > Matthew Toseland skrev: > > > >> An > > > >> installer that works on all three platforms has many advantages, but > > > >> will never be as

[freenet-dev] [freenet-cvs] r23933 - trunk/freenet

2008-11-28 Thread Florent Daignière
* Matthew Toseland [2008-11-28 20:36:36]: > On Thursday 27 November 2008 23:35, nextgens at freenetproject.org wrote: > > Author: nextgens > > Date: 2008-11-27 23:35:49 + (Thu, 27 Nov 2008) > > New Revision: 23933 > > > > Modified: > >trunk/freenet/build.xml > > Log: > > build.xml: add

Re: [freenet-dev] [freenet-cvs] r23933 - trunk/freenet

2008-11-28 Thread Florent Daignière
* Matthew Toseland [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-11-28 20:36:36]: On Thursday 27 November 2008 23:35, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author: nextgens Date: 2008-11-27 23:35:49 + (Thu, 27 Nov 2008) New Revision: 23933 Modified: trunk/freenet/build.xml Log: build.xml: add a new

Re: [freenet-dev] Moving more stuff into the wizard; geeks vs?users was Re: Installation -

2008-11-28 Thread Florent Daignière
* Matthew Toseland [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-11-26 23:55:25]: On Wednesday 26 November 2008 00:26, Florent Daignière wrote: * Zero3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-11-26 00:08:17]: Matthew Toseland skrev: An installer that works on all three platforms has many advantages

[freenet-dev] Laptops still suck was Re: Installation -

2008-11-27 Thread Florent Daignière
* Zero3 [2008-11-27 01:07:03]: > Matthew Toseland skrev: > I do understand that whether the default should be on or off is a tough > decision, but shouldn't we at least warn the user about it, and provide > an easy way to disable it (if enabled by default)? > > >>>

[freenet-dev] Installation -

2008-11-27 Thread Florent Daignière
* Matthew Toseland [2008-11-26 23:55:48]: > > > Being hosted at SourceForge, I can't see bandwidth being a problem? > > > > We left SourceForge years ago because of their chronical unreliability. > > Nonetheless, the bandwidth cost for downloading all the plugins on every > install is

[freenet-dev] Installation -

2008-11-26 Thread Florent Daignière
* Zero3 [2008-11-26 23:33:47]: > Florent Daigni?re skrev: > > * Zero3 [2008-11-26 22:39:58]: > > > > > Will there be one available within reasonable time perhaps, or will > we have to depend on the non-free one later on? > > >>> Ensuring that the code works reliably

[freenet-dev] Laptops still suck was Re: Installation -

2008-11-26 Thread Florent Daignière
* Zero3 [2008-11-26 22:49:14]: > Ian Clarke skrev: > > On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Zero3 wrote: > > > >>> The aim was to reduce the number of questions we ask during the > >>> installation to a minimum: on the basis that advanced users can change > >>> the settings they need afterwards,

[freenet-dev] Moving more stuff into the wizard; geeks vs users was Re: Installation -

2008-11-26 Thread Florent Daignière
* Zero3 [2008-11-26 22:07:11]: >>> Next, we must identify anything that can be improved in Freenet that >>> would make writing these installers easier. >>> >> IMHO moving the "wizard" part into the node itself was an >> important step in the right

[freenet-dev] Installation -

2008-11-26 Thread Florent Daignière
* Zero3 [2008-11-26 21:41:02]: > Florent Daigni?re skrev: >> * Zero3 [2008-11-25 23:49:24]: >> >> Then it would require the node to have web-access and to make web-requests after it has been set up. The current node doesn't do that unless told to. >>> Web

[freenet-dev] Moving more stuff into the wizard; geeks vs users was Re: Installation -

2008-11-26 Thread Florent Daignière
* Zero3 [2008-11-26 20:51:31]: > Florent Daigni?re skrev: >> * Zero3 [2008-11-26 00:08:17]: >> >> >>> Matthew Toseland skrev: >>> > An installer that works on all three platforms has many > advantages, but > will never be as smooth or intuitive as platform-specific

[freenet-dev] Laptops still suck was Re: Installation -

2008-11-26 Thread Florent Daignière
* Zero3 [2008-11-26 20:51:14]: > Florent Daigni?re skrev: >>> I'd argue for a default autorun status of "off" though, and instead >>> make "on" the default on the relevant wizard page, along with a short >>> description of advantages/consequences of autorun'ing Freenet. >>> >> >> Here you

[freenet-dev] Installation -

2008-11-26 Thread Florent Daignière
* Tommy[D] [2008-11-26 20:47:50]: > Florent Daigni?re schrieb: > > > We can't because of the frequency of required updates... and because > > our code depends on a non-free jvm. > > I do compile and run freenet with icedtea6 :-) > Then you and users using your ebuilds are unsupported :)

[freenet-dev] Laptops still suck was Re: Installation -

2008-11-26 Thread Florent Daignière
* Zero3 [2008-11-26 20:35:40]: > Florent Daigni?re skrev: >> * Zero3 [2008-11-25 23:55:20]: >> >> >>> Shouldn't we just accept that fact that people are moving towards >>> mobility, and that most likely won't change anytime soon? :). >>> >>> >> >> I would really appreciate if you

[freenet-dev] Installation -

2008-11-26 Thread Florent Daignière
* Zero3 [2008-11-25 23:49:24]: > > Then it would require the node to have web-access and to make > > web-requests after it has been set up. The current node doesn't do that > > unless told to. > > > Web access for what? > Downloading plugins. > > > >> - Integration directly into the

[freenet-dev] Moving more stuff into the wizard; geeks vs users was Re: Installation -

2008-11-26 Thread Florent Daignière
* Zero3 [2008-11-26 00:08:17]: > Matthew Toseland skrev: > >> An > >> installer that works on all three platforms has many advantages, but > >> will never be as smooth or intuitive as platform-specific installers > >> because people have differing expectations of each platform. For > >>

[freenet-dev] Installation -

2008-11-26 Thread Florent Daignière
* Zero3 [2008-11-25 23:20:06]: > Florent Daigniere skrev: > > Zero3 wrote: > > > >> > >> IMHO, Freenet should be packaged for Linux distros anyway, compeletely > >> eliminating the need for a Linux installer (besides whatever scripting > >> the package installation requires) and terminal

[freenet-dev] Laptops still suck was Re: Installation -

2008-11-26 Thread Florent Daignière
* Zero3 [2008-11-25 23:55:20]: > Shouldn't we just accept that fact that people are moving towards > mobility, and that most likely won't change anytime soon? :). > I would really appreciate if you could share your insight on the topic: How exactly would you design a fully decentralized

Re: [freenet-dev] Laptops still suck was Re: Installation -

2008-11-26 Thread Florent Daignière
* Zero3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-11-26 20:35:40]: Florent Daignière skrev: * Zero3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-11-25 23:55:20]: Shouldn't we just accept that fact that people are moving towards mobility, and that most likely won't change anytime soon? :). I would really appreciate

Re: [freenet-dev] Installation -

2008-11-26 Thread Florent Daignière
* Tommy[D] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-11-26 20:47:50]: Florent Daignière schrieb: We can't because of the frequency of required updates... and because our code depends on a non-free jvm. I do compile and run freenet with icedtea6 :-) Then you and users using your ebuilds are unsupported

Re: [freenet-dev] Laptops still suck was Re: Installation -

2008-11-26 Thread Florent Daignière
* Zero3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-11-26 20:51:14]: Florent Daignière skrev: I'd argue for a default autorun status of off though, and instead make on the default on the relevant wizard page, along with a short description of advantages/consequences of autorun'ing Freenet. Here you

Re: [freenet-dev] Installation -

2008-11-26 Thread Florent Daignière
* Zero3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-11-26 21:41:02]: Florent Daignière skrev: * Zero3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-11-25 23:49:24]: Then it would require the node to have web-access and to make web-requests after it has been set up. The current node doesn't do that unless told

Re: [freenet-dev] Moving more stuff into the wizard; geeks vs users was Re: Installation -

2008-11-26 Thread Florent Daignière
* Zero3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-11-26 22:07:11]: Next, we must identify anything that can be improved in Freenet that would make writing these installers easier. IMHO moving the wizard part into the node itself was an important step in the right direction. We could

Re: [freenet-dev] Laptops still suck was Re: Installation -

2008-11-26 Thread Florent Daignière
* Zero3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-11-26 22:49:14]: Ian Clarke skrev: On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Zero3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The aim was to reduce the number of questions we ask during the installation to a minimum: on the basis that advanced users can change the settings they

Re: [freenet-dev] Installation -

2008-11-26 Thread Florent Daignière
* Zero3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-11-26 23:33:47]: Florent Daignière skrev: * Zero3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-11-26 22:39:58]: Will there be one available within reasonable time perhaps, or will we have to depend on the non-free one later on? Ensuring that the code works

Re: [freenet-dev] Installation -

2008-11-26 Thread Florent Daignière
* Matthew Toseland [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-11-26 23:55:48]: Being hosted at SourceForge, I can't see bandwidth being a problem? We left SourceForge years ago because of their chronical unreliability. Nonetheless, the bandwidth cost for downloading all the plugins on every install is

Re: [freenet-dev] Laptops still suck was Re: Installation -

2008-11-26 Thread Florent Daignière
* Zero3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-11-27 01:07:03]: Matthew Toseland skrev: I do understand that whether the default should be on or off is a tough decision, but shouldn't we at least warn the user about it, and provide an easy way to disable it (if enabled by default)? Huh.

Re: [freenet-dev] Laptops still suck was Re: Installation -

2008-11-25 Thread Florent Daignière
* Zero3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-11-25 23:55:20]: Shouldn't we just accept that fact that people are moving towards mobility, and that most likely won't change anytime soon? :). I would really appreciate if you could share your insight on the topic: How exactly would you design a fully

Re: [freenet-dev] Installation -

2008-11-25 Thread Florent Daignière
* Zero3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-11-25 23:20:06]: Florent Daigniere skrev: Zero3 wrote: IMHO, Freenet should be packaged for Linux distros anyway, compeletely eliminating the need for a Linux installer (besides whatever scripting the package installation requires) and terminal

Re: [freenet-dev] Moving more stuff into the wizard; geeks vs users was Re: Installation -

2008-11-25 Thread Florent Daignière
* Zero3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-11-26 00:08:17]: Matthew Toseland skrev: An installer that works on all three platforms has many advantages, but will never be as smooth or intuitive as platform-specific installers because people have differing expectations of each platform. For

Re: [freenet-dev] Installation -

2008-11-25 Thread Florent Daignière
* Zero3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-11-25 23:49:24]: Then it would require the node to have web-access and to make web-requests after it has been set up. The current node doesn't do that unless told to. Web access for what? Downloading plugins. - Integration directly into the

[freenet-dev] Installation -

2008-11-24 Thread Florent Daignière
* Ian Clarke [2008-11-24 13:33:09]: > On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 12:59 PM, David 'Bombe' Roden > wrote: > > On Monday 24 November 2008 18:25:42 Ian Clarke wrote: > >> I see no reason why Freenet's installation process couldn't be as elegant > >> as > >> littleshoot's. > > > > Here's what it says

Re: [freenet-dev] Installation -

2008-11-24 Thread Florent Daignière
* Ian Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-11-24 13:33:09]: On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 12:59 PM, David 'Bombe' Roden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 24 November 2008 18:25:42 Ian Clarke wrote: I see no reason why Freenet's installation process couldn't be as elegant as littleshoot's.

[freenet-dev] IRC Meeting about Freetalk/FMSPlugin/WoT

2008-11-18 Thread Florent Daignière
* Florent Daigni?re [2008-11-17 23:51:51]: The meeting is now over: logs are available at http://emu.freenetproject.org/irc/2008-11-18 Here is what has been ruled: > 1) What future do we want for FMSPlugin (a FMS clone in java > written by saces) / Freetalk There is no fundamental

Re: [freenet-dev] IRC Meeting about Freetalk/FMSPlugin/WoT

2008-11-18 Thread Florent Daignière
* Florent Daignière [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-11-17 23:51:51]: The meeting is now over: logs are available at http://emu.freenetproject.org/irc/2008-11-18 Here is what has been ruled: 1) What future do we want for FMSPlugin (a FMS clone in java written by saces) / Freetalk

[freenet-dev] IRC Meeting about Freetalk/FMSPlugin/WoT

2008-11-17 Thread Florent Daignière
Hi, Tonight we discussed a bit about what the future messaging system of freenet should be. We obviously didn't reach any kind of agreement but nevertheless agreed on meeting again tomorrow. Everyone is welcome to attend our IRC meeting scheduled at [1] 21:00PM GMT on #freenet. Sorry for the

[freenet-dev] IRC Meeting about Freetalk/FMSPlugin/WoT

2008-11-17 Thread Florent Daignière
Hi, Tonight we discussed a bit about what the future messaging system of freenet should be. We obviously didn't reach any kind of agreement but nevertheless agreed on meeting again tomorrow. Everyone is welcome to attend our IRC meeting scheduled at [1] 21:00PM GMT on #freenet. Sorry for the

[freenet-dev] Subversion 1.5

2008-11-16 Thread Florent Daignière
* Florent Daigni?re [2008-05-12 04:37:15]: > * Ian Clarke [2008-05-11 18:08:23]: > > > Merging in Subversion is a major PITA, but fortunately this is about > > to change with version 1.5, see this blog entry for details: > > > > http://blog.red-bean.com/sussman/?p=92 > > > > Hopefully this

Re: [freenet-dev] Subversion 1.5

2008-11-16 Thread Florent Daignière
* Florent Daignière [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-05-12 04:37:15]: * Ian Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-05-11 18:08:23]: Merging in Subversion is a major PITA, but fortunately this is about to change with version 1.5, see this blog entry for details: http://blog.red-bean.com/sussman/?p=92

[freenet-dev] [freenet-cvs] Veri

2008-11-09 Thread Florent Daignière
* Daniel Cheng [2008-11-09 19:54:32]: > On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 1:24 AM, wrote: > > fication of r23379 on emu > > ^^--- the email header is messed up It has been already fixed :) > > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > toad has

[freenet-dev] New node installs broken!

2008-11-09 Thread Florent Daignière
* Matthew Toseland [2008-11-09 00:24:57]: > After a conversation with someone on #freenet , it looks like new node > installs are broken. > > I had a very odd wget: > > browser at servalan:~$ wget > http://downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha/installer/new_installer.jar > --2008-11-09

Re: [freenet-dev] New node installs broken!

2008-11-09 Thread Florent Daignière
* Matthew Toseland [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-11-09 00:24:57]: After a conversation with someone on #freenet , it looks like new node installs are broken. I had a very odd wget: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ wget http://downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha/installer/new_installer.jar --2008-11-09

Re: [freenet-dev] [freenet-cvs] Veri

2008-11-09 Thread Florent Daignière
* Daniel Cheng [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-11-09 19:54:32]: On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 1:24 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: fication of r23379 on emu ^^--- the email header is messed up It has been already fixed :) -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 toad has declared that

[freenet-dev] [freenet-cvs] r23155 - in trunk/freenet/src/freenet: client/async support/compress

2008-11-07 Thread Florent Daignière
* Daniel Cheng [2008-11-07 08:24:06]: > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 2:09 AM, wrote: > > Author: nextgens > > Date: 2008-10-28 18:09:53 + (Tue, 28 Oct 2008) > > New Revision: 23155 > > > > Modified: > >

Re: [freenet-dev] [freenet-cvs] r23155 - in trunk/freenet/src/freenet: client/async support/compress

2008-11-06 Thread Florent Daignière
* Daniel Cheng [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-11-07 08:24:06]: On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 2:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author: nextgens Date: 2008-10-28 18:09:53 + (Tue, 28 Oct 2008) New Revision: 23155 Modified: trunk/freenet/src/freenet/client/async/SingleFileInserter.java

[freenet-dev] salted datastore

2008-11-05 Thread Florent Daignière
* bbackde at googlemail.com [2008-11-05 09:17:37]: > Will the current store be converted automatically? > No but at some point we will display a user alert asking the user to make the move. I got the green light from sdiz in a private email and have commited the change in r23323. > On Tue,

Re: [freenet-dev] salted datastore

2008-11-05 Thread Florent Daignière
. On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 21:17, Florent Daignière [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's time for the salted-datastore to be the default option. Sdiz, do you object to it? NextGen$ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkkQrd0ACgkQU/Z

[freenet-dev] salted datastore

2008-11-04 Thread Florent Daignière
I think it's time for the salted-datastore to be the default option. Sdiz, do you object to it? NextGen$ -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL:

[freenet-dev] Need another cron job was Re: [freenet-cvs] r23292 - trunk/website/pages/en

2008-11-04 Thread Florent Daignière
* Matthew Toseland [2008-11-03 20:12:21]: > On Monday 03 November 2008 20:04, Julien Cornuwel wrote: > > toad at freenetproject.org a ?crit : > > > Author: toad > > > Date: 2008-11-03 19:28:41 + (Mon, 03 Nov 2008) > > > New Revision: 23292 > > > > > > Modified: > > >

Re: [freenet-dev] Need another cron job was Re: [freenet-cvs] r23292 - trunk/website/pages/en

2008-11-04 Thread Florent Daignière
* Matthew Toseland [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-11-03 20:12:21]: On Monday 03 November 2008 20:04, Julien Cornuwel wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Author: toad Date: 2008-11-03 19:28:41 + (Mon, 03 Nov 2008) New Revision: 23292 Modified: trunk/website/pages/en/news.php

[freenet-dev] salted datastore

2008-11-04 Thread Florent Daignière
I think it's time for the salted-datastore to be the default option. Sdiz, do you object to it? NextGen$ signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org

[freenet-dev] financial status

2008-10-30 Thread Florent Daignière
* Matthew Toseland [2008-10-30 12:48:19]: > I'm CCing this to devl, hope you don't mind. > > On Thursday 30 October 2008 05:13, you wrote: > > Bank balance: $4,820.11 > > > > Paypal: $1,250.11 > > That's another 2.5 months at current exchange rates ... less if the UK > economy > rises / US

[freenet-dev] financial status

2008-10-30 Thread Florent Daignière
* Matthew Toseland [2008-10-30 18:35:22]: > On Thursday 30 October 2008 15:59, Zero3 wrote: > > Matthew Toseland skrev: > > >> We need to start thinking about raising more $$$. > > >> > > > > Random ideas for inspiration: > > > > - Did you consider raising the possible donation amounts on

[freenet-dev] [freenet-cvs] r23162?-?trunk/freenet/src/freenet/client

2008-10-30 Thread Florent Daignière
* Matthew Toseland [2008-10-29 23:17:01]: > On Wednesday 29 October 2008 21:14, Florent Daigni?re wrote: > > * Matthew Toseland [2008-10-29 13:30:48]: > > > > > On Wednesday 29 October 2008 03:50, Florent Daigni?re wrote: > > > > * Matthew Toseland [2008-10-29 00:12:24]: > > > > > > > > > On

Re: [freenet-dev] financial status

2008-10-30 Thread Florent Daignière
* Matthew Toseland [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-10-30 18:35:22]: On Thursday 30 October 2008 15:59, Zero3 wrote: Matthew Toseland skrev: We need to start thinking about raising more $$$. Random ideas for inspiration: - Did you consider raising the possible donation amounts on

Re: [freenet-dev] financial status

2008-10-30 Thread Florent Daignière
* Matthew Toseland [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-10-30 12:48:19]: I'm CCing this to devl, hope you don't mind. On Thursday 30 October 2008 05:13, you wrote: Bank balance: $4,820.11 Paypal: $1,250.11 That's another 2.5 months at current exchange rates ... less if the UK economy rises

[freenet-dev] [freenet-cvs] r23162 -?trunk/freenet/src/freenet/client

2008-10-29 Thread Florent Daignière
* Matthew Toseland [2008-10-29 13:30:48]: > On Wednesday 29 October 2008 03:50, Florent Daigni?re wrote: > > * Matthew Toseland [2008-10-29 00:12:24]: > > > > > On Tuesday 28 October 2008 19:47, nextgens at freenetproject.org wrote: > > > > Author: nextgens > > > > Date: 2008-10-28 19:47:26

[freenet-dev] ITA l10n update 081028

2008-10-29 Thread Florent Daignière
* Luke771 [2008-10-29 12:31:54]: > On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:53:03 + > Florent Daigni?re wrote: > > > * Luke771 [2008-10-28 08:42:02]: > > > > > > > > Updated to 1166 r23150 > > > Includes new strings and some minor changes > > > > > > > Commited in r23159 > > > > I'm sorry, I screwed

[freenet-dev] [freenet-cvs] r23162 - trunk/freenet/src/freenet/client

2008-10-29 Thread Florent Daignière
* Matthew Toseland [2008-10-29 00:12:24]: > On Tuesday 28 October 2008 19:47, nextgens at freenetproject.org wrote: > > Author: nextgens > > Date: 2008-10-28 19:47:26 + (Tue, 28 Oct 2008) > > New Revision: 23162 > > > > Modified: > >trunk/freenet/src/freenet/client/ArchiveManager.java >

Re: [freenet-dev] ITA l10n update 081028

2008-10-29 Thread Florent Daignière
* Luke771 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-10-29 12:31:54]: On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:53:03 + Florent Daignière [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Luke771 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-10-28 08:42:02]: Updated to 1166 r23150 Includes new strings and some minor changes Commited in r23159

Re: [freenet-dev] [freenet-cvs] r23162 -?trunk/freenet/src/freenet/client

2008-10-29 Thread Florent Daignière
* Matthew Toseland [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-10-29 13:30:48]: On Wednesday 29 October 2008 03:50, Florent Daignière wrote: * Matthew Toseland [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-10-29 00:12:24]: On Tuesday 28 October 2008 19:47, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author: nextgens Date: 2008-10-28 19:47

Re: [freenet-dev] [freenet-cvs] r23162?-?trunk/freenet/src/freenet/client

2008-10-29 Thread Florent Daignière
* Matthew Toseland [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-10-29 23:17:01]: On Wednesday 29 October 2008 21:14, Florent Daignière wrote: * Matthew Toseland [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-10-29 13:30:48]: On Wednesday 29 October 2008 03:50, Florent Daignière wrote: * Matthew Toseland [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008

[freenet-dev] ITA l10n update 081028

2008-10-28 Thread Florent Daignière
* Luke771 [2008-10-28 08:42:02]: > > Updated to 1166 r23150 > Includes new strings and some minor changes > Commited in r23159 -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: Digital

[freenet-dev] freenet-ext.jar #23

2008-10-28 Thread Florent Daignière
* Matthew Toseland [2008-10-28 14:12:47]: > On Tuesday 28 October 2008 04:14, Florent Daigni?re wrote: > > Hi, > > > > As part of the repository refactoring process, I have move the > > 3rd party code and I am have to release a new -ext.jar file. > > > > Current trunk will probably

[freenet-dev] freenet-ext.jar #23

2008-10-28 Thread Florent Daignière
* Florent Daigni?re [2008-10-28 04:14:11]: > Hi, > > As part of the repository refactoring process, I have move the > 3rd party code and I am have to release a new -ext.jar file. > > Current trunk will probably not build with #22. > > *DO NOT TRY TO FIX ANY

[freenet-dev] freenet-ext.jar #23

2008-10-28 Thread Florent Daignière
Hi, As part of the repository refactoring process, I have move the 3rd party code and I am have to release a new -ext.jar file. Current trunk will probably not build with #22. *DO NOT TRY TO FIX ANY INCLUDE PROBLEM* Help me out testing #23

Re: [freenet-dev] freenet-ext.jar #23

2008-10-28 Thread Florent Daignière
* Matthew Toseland [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-10-28 14:12:47]: On Tuesday 28 October 2008 04:14, Florent Daignière wrote: Hi, As part of the repository refactoring process, I have move the 3rd party code and I am have to release a new -ext.jar file. Current trunk

Re: [freenet-dev] ITA l10n update 081028

2008-10-28 Thread Florent Daignière
* Luke771 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-10-28 08:42:02]: Updated to 1166 r23150 Includes new strings and some minor changes Commited in r23159 signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org

Re: [freenet-dev] [freenet-cvs] r23162 - trunk/freenet/src/freenet/client

2008-10-28 Thread Florent Daignière
* Matthew Toseland [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-10-29 00:12:24]: On Tuesday 28 October 2008 19:47, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author: nextgens Date: 2008-10-28 19:47:26 + (Tue, 28 Oct 2008) New Revision: 23162 Modified: trunk/freenet/src/freenet/client/ArchiveManager.java Log:

[freenet-dev] freenet-ext.jar #23

2008-10-27 Thread Florent Daignière
Hi, As part of the repository refactoring process, I have move the 3rd party code and I am have to release a new -ext.jar file. Current trunk will probably not build with #22. *DO NOT TRY TO FIX ANY INCLUDE PROBLEM* Help me out testing #23

Re: [freenet-dev] freenet-ext.jar #23

2008-10-27 Thread Florent Daignière
* Florent Daignière [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-10-28 04:14:11]: Hi, As part of the repository refactoring process, I have move the 3rd party code and I am have to release a new -ext.jar file. Current trunk will probably not build with #22. *DO NOT TRY

[freenet-dev] [freenet-cvs] r23102 - trunk/freenet/src/freenet/node

2008-10-26 Thread Florent Daignière
* xor at freenetproject.org [2008-10-26 10:58:06]: > Author: xor > Date: 2008-10-26 10:58:05 + (Sun, 26 Oct 2008) > New Revision: 23102 > > Modified: >trunk/freenet/src/freenet/node/BandwidthUsageHistory.java > Log: > Format only. > The regexp doesn't match that! Instructions have

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