ine Installer", from
> Sun's website.
Or this.
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Uh, if only newbies can serve as data pumps, then eventually Freenet becomes a vast
machine for chewing up and spitting out fresh nodes. It would be good if some
esablished nodes (with a certain class of connection/machine, or just randomly
selected) could serve this role as well.
Or, in a move
Or maybe an on-disk cache of estimators for various nodes. If we add a new node, we
check the on-disk cache and if there's a recent enough cached estimator for it, use
that estimator instead. Unfortunately, "recent enough" sounds like alchemy.
A non-alchemic idea would be to average the cached es
What "magic bytes"? The only "magic bytes" I can think of that the client shouldn't
know about are the PAgM. If InvertPrivateKey doesn't return this, then some people
should be whipped, and it should be changed or a better command introduced and the
original deprecated.
Then it would be: "SSK@"
Yowch. Evil, evil web-mailer. Sorry.
What do you mean "it's a hell of a lot better"?
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Why not periodically bring all the files in the DS up to date? Or to be even more
devious, periodically set them to random dates within the uptime of the node?
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Title: New York Times on Freenet
Uh-oh. Misconception alert.
While there is a Freenet organization, they only make the software. And IIRC, it's only incorporated in one country (although the *network* is international). It's probably an anonymous user somewhere who posted the Diebold documents. (
ng? Or do I misunderstand what is meant by "estimator keyspace"?
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and so the pLegitDNF for DEADBEEF... should be the same as that for
FEEDBAGG...
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optimal when totalSizeOfDataInNetwork is significantly
greater than averageDatastoreSize. And even then, specialization is a matter
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nes (to make it unused).
Anybody see why this isn't so?
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This bodes not well for the common carrier defense.
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s me in
their RT. Hopefully, if anyone does, they won't be using me.
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ugh the amount of retrievable data
on one path is 25*n, each node has a choice of many other nodes to go to.
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I submit these as possible ways to prevent another fiasco like that following the
fork. I do not demand that either be implemented.
1. Before a major change such as this is taken, which will modify people's nodes
severely and may cause some not to want to upgrade, send mails to announce and devl
ms to be doing so anyway.
> >Your situation sounds like what a 'transient node' is supposed
> > to be, but I'm not sure anyone is actively testing that functionality.
>
> No, not right now.. more pressing matters worked on... Getting the network
> to work :)
Hmm. D
On Monday 27 October 2003 07:54 am, Some Guy wrote:
> --- Nick Tarleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have heard a lot about Freenet's emergent behavior and would like to
> > understand just what mechanisms in the code make this happen.
>
> I'll do my best
On Sunday 26 October 2003 03:06 pm, you wrote:
> On Sunday 26 October 2003 01:27 pm, Nick Tarleton wrote:
> > I will run a permanent test node, even though I'm on a 33.6k and won't be
> > on often. Address is namshub.dyndns.org:4131.
>
> Working great. I already have
e, let's not make the same mistakes of the past. Don't call it
> stable unless you are going to call it 1.0 and it really works well and
> continues to do so!
"Relatively stable" maybe?
"Less unstable"?
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On Saturday 25 October 2003 02:42 pm, Martin Stone Davis wrote:
> Nick Tarleton wrote:
> > On Thursday 16 October 2003 10:11 am, Martin Stone Davis wrote:
> >>D'oh!!! I goofed: Node C would see that it takes node A LESS TIME to
> >>find keys K101-K1000 than to find
gt; spring it on people. And it *was* a spring on those (including me) that
> don't subscribe to CVS, which I seem to recall is considerably high
> traffic.
Uh, it WAS forwarded to devl, never mind. Just a little late.
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On Sunday 26 October 2003 01:27 pm, Nick Tarleton wrote:
> I will run a permanent test node, even though I'm on a 33.6k and won't be
> on often. Address is namshub.dyndns.org:4131.
Working great. I already have the first CHK (No, you are NOT Picasso), and the
DS is filling nicely,
ess of updating again right now, so it may not be
> immediately accessible. The first insertion was done just before 00:00:00
> GMT. :-)
How often does it update? It's a good while to GMT.
Out of curiosity, why is the public key duplicated?
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directories down into the underworld to avoid the
charge that you are linking to them. And the chances of that happening are a
joke.
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s it know which to go to for a given key? Is key size part
of the routing calculation? (If not, it probably should be.)
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often. Address is namshub.dyndns.org:4131.
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caused.
Near zero time (for those who subscribe to CVS) or negative thirty minutes
(for those who don't) is not "plenty".
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te to the main store when they pass
through it without client intervention? I.e., if it receives a request for
K1, it goes through the network and THEN moves K1 to the regular store.
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much info as the graphs, but it looks cool, and is a
very clear indicator of specialization.
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I suppose nobody knows the cause.
(Will this become the new DSB or Heisenbug?)
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}, {fd=99, events=POLLIN}, {fd=78, events=POLLIN},
> {fd=48, events=POLLIN}, {fd=66, events=POLLIN}, {fd=471, events=POLLIN},
>
> Hundreds of those then some gettimeofday and kill and more POLLIN. Is this
> normal behavior?
Looks like some kind of horribly inefficient Java native I/O cod
a downloaded key into the same 8
or 16 byte gibberish repeated. I have also seen these keys disappear from the
datastore when I select "Download" or "View as Text".
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user can manually claim what the load is by filling
> in a form and submitting. (Maybe he wants freenet to use
> less CPU without shutting down entirely).
s/perl/native code/, on Windoze at least.
s/web browser/client/, why not just have a constantly open connection and feed
raw number
ystem to shutdown freenet on Tuesdays and Fridays, run
> the update script, and start it up again.
Sometimes the new builds have horrible bugs that make older builds more usable
for the client. There is not much way to prevent this. And what about Kaffe
users?
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> On Friday 03 October 2003 03:17 pm, Toad wrote:
> > > Why bother with the autodownload? Just say "This software needs
> > > Freenet. If you have Freenet, click Next. If not, cancel this
> > > installat
member not everyone is a Morlock. But still, will anyone
with a positive IQ not understand those instructions?
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On Saturday 27 September 2003 09:53 pm, Martin Stone Davis wrote:
> Is anyone else having problems like me?
I've seen at least one other case.
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aily DBR, redirects to [EMAIL PROTECTED],mapfile
Mapfile, requesting / = [EMAIL PROTECTED],index
And such. Or at least, it'd be nice on DNF to display how far it got.
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;Download this if you KNOW you have a JVM"
Just how much bigger does the JVM make the installer?
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could be
> debugged more easily...
They have issues with NIO, mostly. Builds 598 and earlier run fine under
Kaffe. GCJ, I'm not sure.
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On Friday 12 September 2003 05:43 pm, Nick Tarleton wrote:
> On Friday 12 September 2003 05:14 pm, Toad wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 05:07:06PM -0400, Nick Tarleton wrote:
> > > On Thursday 11 September 2003 07:24 pm, Mr Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> > > > And the
On Friday 12 September 2003 05:14 pm, Toad wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 05:07:06PM -0400, Nick Tarleton wrote:
> > On Thursday 11 September 2003 07:24 pm, Mr Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> > > And the point of raising it here - how would one go about achieving
> > > th
p -rf /node/two/directory/store /node/one/directory
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about the fact that this new node contains the keys they want
>if they happen to stumble across it randomly.)
Maybe include specialization in announcements? This would be exploitable
though, wouldn't it?
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> On Wednesday 10 September 2003 05:26 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 13:53:49 -0700
> > =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=E9r=F4me_ou_Sally_Bonnet?=
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> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > &
ad to show off my m47h skillz...
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On Sunday 07 September 2003 07:36 pm, Nick Tarleton wrote:
> On Sunday 07 September 2003 03:51 pm, Dan Merillat wrote:
> > Unexpected Signal : 11 occurred at PC=0x70002E
>
> Given how much lower all the other addresses are, does this have any
> business being in use, let a
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s protocol is proprietary?
Frost is open source, but the code isn't very pleasant to look at. However, it
looks like FRUIT will be better featured in any case.
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> public final float estimatedLoad() {
Why is this final? Isn't it mostly a myth that final functions are faster?
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this exact issue, but the 'Routing table' link from the main
page shows an empty table, while the one on disk is very much full and
properly utilized.
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the same issue with a node whose name starts with 'plasticman'.
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ows you things you've already seen seems
> to be a bit less than useful.
I think the idea may be to create indexes of the pages you've already seen and
insert them.
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is newer than the RT then the RT will be ignored. However,
you're right that they shouldn't contact other nodes and be able to get out
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the index. Let
people make their own indices anonymously, or use Frost which uploads lists
of what files are available and allows searching through those lists.
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; maintaining their own branch. No loss. Freenet gains through any general
> improvements they make. This cannot harm the project.
It can if people use their freenet thinking it's the real one, and theirs has
spyware or something.
But how likely is that?
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sed around a part of
the keyspace, but spread out all over. It's more of a bell curve than a
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seems off target.
Agreed on both points. D. Leave archive support in fproxy though.
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small fraction by size of Freenet, and for most people, the time to
transfer an HTML page is trivial next to the time required to FIND it,
possibly even with NGR.
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ion is tied to node key is tied to IP anyway,
and it says nothing about the node's actions on Freenet.
Or I could be wrong.
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ther)
NO IT DOESN'T. The data is still seperate, and there's still the problem of a
lot of little pieces to find - and fall out. This doesn't mean it's a bad
idea, just that it can't do the job of containers.
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I would love to see this, as it would mean I (on dialup) could become a useful
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st an extension of multiple-file documents.
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> we don't actually have any others yet.
Could you describe this so those who may want to make new themes can do so?
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Hmm. How? Frost uses KSKs and SSKs mostly, right?
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> To me, it looks like a CHK contains log2 of the (padded) size of the data.
> From ClientCHK.encode:
> chk = new CHK(storables, Util.log2(getPaddedLength()));
> In about an hour expect some code to pull that out of a text CHK. ;-)
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> On Sat, Jul 19, 2003 at 05:59:25PM -0400, Nick Tarleton wrote:
> > On Saturday 19 July 2003 02:24 am, pineapple wrote:
> > > Just wanted to say that there is an active link on TFE
> > > called NIM Killer that crashes mozi
contains log2 of the (padded) size of the data.
>From ClientCHK.encode:
chk = new CHK(storables, Util.log2(getPaddedLength()));
In about an hour expect some code to pull that out of a text CHK. ;-)
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On Sunday 20 July 2003 03:37 pm, Tom Kaitchuck wrote:
> On Sunday 20 July 2003 01:47 pm, Nick Tarleton wrote:
> > If [EMAIL PROTECTED]/site// is a DBR site, then [EMAIL PROTECTED]/site actually
> > contains a
> > small 'DateRedirect' meta tag. This causes f
son to automatically use altDbrUrl.
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On Sunday 20 July 2003 01:43 pm, Ian Clarke wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 20, 2003 at 01:19:14PM -0400, Nick Tarleton wrote:
> > > How exactly would an SSK certify the current time?
> >
> > How else can the time sync be distributed accurately, not be able to be
> > screwed up
On Sunday 20 July 2003 08:06 am, Ian Clarke wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 20, 2003 at 01:53:08AM -0400, Nick Tarleton wrote:
> > On Sunday 20 July 2003 01:23 am, Tracy R Reed wrote:
> > > On Sat, Jul 19, 2003 at 09:46:31PM -0500, Tom Kaitchuck spake thusly:
> > > > 1. Warn
sites?
Yes.
> The TUK idea, or some other more flexible updating scheme, would probably
> moot this issue.
I would like it if the indices still used DBR so I would know when to check
for them to update. If I can't get it, I can force yesterday's.
malicious screwing? SSK distributed? From
whom?
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not a byte constant, and as
such equals .
And a pox upon Sun for (among other things) not having any fixed-size unsigned
types.
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Ni
images, but is that part of the Freenet job description?
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