[freenet-dev] UI problems

2002-11-17 Thread Oskar Sandberg
On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 09:38:45PM +, Roger Hayter wrote: <> > I find that surprising. I am not sure what you mean by "sending about > 300 pieces of data per hour". My node deals with about 150 to 300 > queries per hour in terms of "incoming queries that are not rejected". > Or do you onl

[freenet-dev] UI problems

2002-11-17 Thread Roger Hayter
In message <20021117224025.GE350 at sporty.spiceworld>, Oskar Sandberg writes >On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 09:38:45PM +, Roger Hayter wrote: ><> >> I find that surprising. I am not sure what you mean by "sending about >> 300 pieces of data per hour". My node deals with about 150 to 300 >> queri

[freenet-dev] UI problems

2002-11-17 Thread Roger Hayter
In message <20021117130307.GA350 at sporty.spiceworld>, Oskar Sandberg writes >On Sat, Nov 16, 2002 at 06:59:01PM -0800, Ian Clarke wrote: >> On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 02:20:14AM +0100, Oskar Sandberg wrote: >> > I think we do a poor job of presenting the requirements of freenet >> > involvement to

[freenet-dev] UI problems

2002-11-17 Thread Oskar Sandberg
On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 04:10:12PM +, Matthew Toseland wrote: > On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 02:03:07PM +0100, Oskar Sandberg wrote: < > > > ...that are not running a NAT or who know how to configure it (which > > rules out the popular NAT boxes, windows connection sharing etc etc). > > And just h

[freenet-dev] UI problems

2002-11-17 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 02:03:07PM +0100, Oskar Sandberg wrote: > On Sat, Nov 16, 2002 at 06:59:01PM -0800, Ian Clarke wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 02:20:14AM +0100, Oskar Sandberg wrote: > > > I think we do a poor job of presenting the requirements of freenet > > > involvement to those who s

Re: [freenet-dev] UI problems

2002-11-17 Thread Roger Hayter
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Oskar Sandberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 09:38:45PM +, Roger Hayter wrote: <> I find that surprising. I am not sure what you mean by "sending about 300 pieces of data per hour". My node deals with about 150 to 300 queries per hour in

Re: [freenet-dev] UI problems

2002-11-17 Thread Oskar Sandberg
On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 09:38:45PM +, Roger Hayter wrote: <> > I find that surprising. I am not sure what you mean by "sending about > 300 pieces of data per hour". My node deals with about 150 to 300 > queries per hour in terms of "incoming queries that are not rejected". > Or do you onl

[freenet-dev] UI problems

2002-11-17 Thread Oskar Sandberg
On Sat, Nov 16, 2002 at 06:59:01PM -0800, Ian Clarke wrote: > On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 02:20:14AM +0100, Oskar Sandberg wrote: > > I think we do a poor job of presenting the requirements of freenet > > involvement to those who stumble upon it. To use freenet, a host must > > be: > > > > (a) Accessi

Re: [freenet-dev] UI problems

2002-11-17 Thread Roger Hayter
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Oskar Sandberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes On Sat, Nov 16, 2002 at 06:59:01PM -0800, Ian Clarke wrote: On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 02:20:14AM +0100, Oskar Sandberg wrote: > I think we do a poor job of presenting the requirements of freenet > involvement to those who stu

Re: [freenet-dev] UI problems

2002-11-17 Thread Oskar Sandberg
On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 04:10:12PM +, Matthew Toseland wrote: > On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 02:03:07PM +0100, Oskar Sandberg wrote: < > > > ...that are not running a NAT or who know how to configure it (which > > rules out the popular NAT boxes, windows connection sharing etc etc). > > And just h

Re: [freenet-dev] UI problems

2002-11-17 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 02:03:07PM +0100, Oskar Sandberg wrote: > On Sat, Nov 16, 2002 at 06:59:01PM -0800, Ian Clarke wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 02:20:14AM +0100, Oskar Sandberg wrote: > > > I think we do a poor job of presenting the requirements of freenet > > > involvement to those who s

Re: [freenet-dev] UI problems

2002-11-17 Thread Oskar Sandberg
On Sat, Nov 16, 2002 at 06:59:01PM -0800, Ian Clarke wrote: > On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 02:20:14AM +0100, Oskar Sandberg wrote: > > I think we do a poor job of presenting the requirements of freenet > > involvement to those who stumble upon it. To use freenet, a host must > > be: > > > > (a) Accessi

[freenet-dev] UI problems

2002-11-17 Thread Oskar Sandberg
On Sat, Nov 16, 2002 at 11:16:15PM +, Matthew Toseland wrote: <> > > so that only nodes which have been up for a while (and which are > > therefore likely to stay up) will really get insinuated into the > > network. I suspect that having 99% of Windows users unwittingly set up > > transient

[freenet-dev] UI problems

2002-11-16 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Sat, Nov 16, 2002 at 03:09:46PM -0800, Ian Clarke wrote: > This may appear trivial, but I suspect it is causing serious damage to > the network: > > The Windows Installer should try to figure out what the node's IP > address is automatically, *very few* users will know how to figure out > th

Re: [freenet-dev] UI problems

2002-11-16 Thread Ian Clarke
On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 02:20:14AM +0100, Oskar Sandberg wrote: > I think we do a poor job of presenting the requirements of freenet > involvement to those who stumble upon it. To use freenet, a host must > be: > > (a) Accessible to connections from the Internet. Most people on a broadband or mod

[freenet-dev] UI problems

2002-11-16 Thread Ian Clarke
On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 02:20:14AM +0100, Oskar Sandberg wrote: > I think we do a poor job of presenting the requirements of freenet > involvement to those who stumble upon it. To use freenet, a host must > be: > > (a) Accessible to connections from the Internet. Most people on a broadband or mod

Re: [freenet-dev] UI problems

2002-11-16 Thread Oskar Sandberg
On Sat, Nov 16, 2002 at 11:16:15PM +, Matthew Toseland wrote: <> > > so that only nodes which have been up for a while (and which are > > therefore likely to stay up) will really get insinuated into the > > network. I suspect that having 99% of Windows users unwittingly set up > > transient

Re: [freenet-dev] UI problems

2002-11-16 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Sat, Nov 16, 2002 at 03:09:46PM -0800, Ian Clarke wrote: > This may appear trivial, but I suspect it is causing serious damage to > the network: > > The Windows Installer should try to figure out what the node's IP > address is automatically, *very few* users will know how to figure out > th

[freenet-dev] UI problems

2002-11-16 Thread Ian Clarke
This may appear trivial, but I suspect it is causing serious damage to the network: The Windows Installer should try to figure out what the node's IP address is automatically, *very few* users will know how to figure out their node's IP address, particularly in Windows - meaning that only a ti

[freenet-dev] UI problems

2002-11-16 Thread Ian Clarke
This may appear trivial, but I suspect it is causing serious damage to the network: The Windows Installer should try to figure out what the node's IP address is automatically, *very few* users will know how to figure out their node's IP address, particularly in Windows - meaning that only a ti