Re: [freenet-dev] container maximum

2003-07-30 Thread Gordan
On Tuesday 29 Jul 2003 20:23, Toad wrote: On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 04:59:30PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the 1 MB limit is okay. See for example yesterday's TFEE container. It is about 400 KB and it consists of some 3 HTML and 1 CSS that sum up to nearly 2 MB! This seems

Re: [freenet-dev] container maximum

2003-07-30 Thread Niklas Bergh
- Original Message - From: Gordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [freenet-dev] container maximum On Tuesday 29 Jul 2003 20:23, Toad wrote: On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 04:59:30PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the 1

Re: [freenet-dev] container maximum

2003-07-30 Thread Gordan
On Wednesday 30 Jul 2003 17:34, Niklas Bergh wrote: But I must admit that single-file zipping would be a nicer way to do it. I am more in favour of tar.bz2 format. It would be measurably more compact for compressible data, with little speed penalty to speak of. As a windows user I

Re: [freenet-dev] container maximum

2003-07-30 Thread Todd Walton
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Niklas Bergh wrote: I am more in favour of tar.bz2 format. It would be measurably more compact for compressible data, with little speed penalty to speak of. As a windows user I am not too fond of that idea though As a Windows user, you run the same virtual machine

Re: [freenet-dev] container maximum

2003-07-30 Thread Todd Walton
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Gordan wrote: Here is what I propose. ZIP archives to be replaced with tar archives. Then, on a lower, node level, at insert time, the file being inserted is checked. If it's mime type or extension are indicative of compressed content, we simply insert the file as is.

Re: [freenet-dev] container maximum

2003-07-30 Thread Niklas Bergh
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Gordan wrote: Here is what I propose. ZIP archives to be replaced with tar archives. Why? Wouldn't an uncompressed/compressed zip be easier to produce since the required code already is present in java? Then, on a lower, node level, at insert time, the file being

Re: [freenet-dev] container maximum

2003-07-30 Thread Toad
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 11:25:58AM +0100, Gordan wrote: On Tuesday 29 Jul 2003 20:23, Toad wrote: On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 04:59:30PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the 1 MB limit is okay. See for example yesterday's TFEE container. It is about 400 KB and it consists of some

Re: [freenet-dev] container maximum

2003-07-30 Thread Richard Reveley
Dear god, please don't switch to bz2. I don't care how many bytes are saved, I don't care about CPU cycles used, all I care about is ease of use and that would add unnecesary layers of complexity. It seems that around here normal users are constantly at risk of being disenfranchised by

Re: [freenet-dev] container maximum

2003-07-30 Thread Tracy R Reed
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 03:44:40PM -0500, Richard Reveley spake thusly: saved, I don't care about CPU cycles used, all I care about is ease of use and that would add unnecesary layers of complexity. It seems that bzip is just as easy to use as gzip. They work exactly the same. What's the

Re: [freenet-dev] container maximum

2003-07-30 Thread Gordan
On Wednesday 30 July 2003 18:33, Todd Walton wrote: On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Gordan wrote: Here is what I propose. ZIP archives to be replaced with tar archives. Then, on a lower, node level, at insert time, the file being inserted is checked. If it's mime type or extension are indicative of

Re: [freenet-dev] container maximum

2003-07-30 Thread Gordan
On Wednesday 30 July 2003 19:03, Niklas Bergh wrote: On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Gordan wrote: Here is what I propose. ZIP archives to be replaced with tar archives. Why? Wouldn't an uncompressed/compressed zip be easier to produce since the required code already is present in java? Yes, this

Re: [freenet-dev] container maximum

2003-07-30 Thread Gordan
On Wednesday 30 July 2003 21:44, Richard Reveley wrote: Dear god, please don't switch to bz2. I don't care how many bytes are saved, I don't care about CPU cycles used, all I care about is ease of use and that would add unnecesary layers of complexity. If you were following what was being said

Re: [freenet-dev] container maximum

2003-07-30 Thread Gordan
On Wednesday 30 July 2003 21:48, Tracy R Reed wrote: On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 03:44:40PM -0500, Richard Reveley spake thusly: saved, I don't care about CPU cycles used, all I care about is ease of use and that would add unnecesary layers of complexity. It seems that bzip is just as easy to

Re: [freenet-dev] container maximum

2003-07-30 Thread Gordan
On Wednesday 30 July 2003 20:12, Toad wrote: But I must admit that single-file zipping would be a nicer way to do it. I am more in favour of tar.bz2 format. It would be measurably more compact for compressible data, with little speed penalty to speak of. A massive speed penalty,

Re: [freenet-dev] container maximum

2003-07-30 Thread Tracy R Reed
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 10:59:28PM +0100, Gordan spake thusly: Similarly pkzip is no easier or more difficult to use than tar or bzip2. Exactly. And since they are the same we may as well pick the one with the best performance. -- Tracy Reed http://ultraviolet.org pgp0.pgp

Re: [freenet-dev] container maximum

2003-07-30 Thread Toad
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 11:06:28PM +0100, Gordan wrote: On Wednesday 30 July 2003 20:12, Toad wrote: But I must admit that single-file zipping would be a nicer way to do it. I am more in favour of tar.bz2 format. It would be measurably more compact for compressible data, with

Re: [freenet-dev] container maximum

2003-07-29 Thread Niklas Bergh
- Original Message - From: Toad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [freenet-dev] container maximum On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 04:59:30PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the 1 MB limit is okay. See for example yesterday's TFEE

Re: [freenet-dev] container maximum

2003-07-27 Thread Gordan
On Saturday 26 July 2003 00:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the 1 MB limit is okay. See for example yesterday's TFEE container. It is about 400 KB and it consists of some 3 HTML and 1 CSS that sum up to nearly 2 MB! Which arguably means that the site is not suitable for the application

[freenet-dev] container maximum

2003-07-25 Thread palomitas
I think the 1 MB limit is okay. See for example yesterday's TFEE container. It is about 400 KB and it consists of some 3 HTML and 1 CSS that sum up to nearly 2 MB! But I must admit that single-file zipping would be a nicer way to do it. As for the fear of the activelinks forcing 1 MB

Re: [freenet-dev] container maximum

2003-07-25 Thread Toad
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 04:59:30PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the 1 MB limit is okay. See for example yesterday's TFEE container. It is about 400 KB and it consists of some 3 HTML and 1 CSS that sum up to nearly 2 MB! But I must admit that single-file zipping would be a