RE: [DDN] recommended dv camcorder

2005-11-21 Thread Katy Pearce
Hi Phil and all. The BEST bargain site out there is: www.bensbargains.net. Keep your eyes on it for awhile and I'm sure you'll see a great deal. Thanks, Katy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phil Shapiro Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 6

Re: [DDN] Re: $100 laptop

2005-11-21 Thread Dave A. Chakrabarti
Hi Cindy, Taran, others, Why do you feel there is an inherent problem with using first-world technologies to address third-world problems? India owes its status as a booming IT market entirely to this phenomenon. I'll give you a more grassroots example, however. I know of a nonprofit based i

Re: [DDN] $100 laptop

2005-11-21 Thread Cindy Lemcke-Hoong
Hello Amy, >My students can not take home the computers. They rush to get here >after-school and often stay until it is dark. They walk in the rain, snow, and all >types of weather, make their families wait to have dinner, and BEG for more >time to use the computers. We have family time

Re: [DDN] Re: $100 laptop

2005-11-21 Thread Cindy Lemcke-Hoong
Reading some of the discussions on this list, somehow they give me the impression some of the members on this list is still using FIRST world tools to solve 3rd world problems. (Sorry to use the terms first and 3rd worlds). Not that long ago I wrote about children in some African countri

[DDN] From Healthgap Listserv: Enlist Your PCs in Search for New HIV/AIDS Drugs!

2005-11-21 Thread Janet Feldman
PC users enlisted in hunt for new HIV/AIDS drugs Canadian Press TORONTO — A massive project is harnessing the power of tens of thousands of personal computers around the world in a bid to winnow out potential drugs to more effectively fight the global scourge of HIV/AIDS. A virtual supercompu

Re: [DDN] Europe's digital divide (fwd)

2005-11-21 Thread Sophia Huyer
Thank you, it's interesting to see these studies. I see that another EU study on use of the internet has just been released "Internet Activities in the European Union", which does disaggregate some data by sex. Also related to this topic, the just-released Orbicom-ITU publication "From th

Re: [DDN] Photos of the $100 Laptop, Booth, Meetings etc.

2005-11-21 Thread Terry King
Where can one find these 100 dollar laptops? Are they real? We really would do with such facilities here in Africa. Or is it one of those offers only applicable to 'US Residents' ? So many 'free' computer offers are not applicable to addressees from the developing (or is underdeveloped) countrie

[DDN] recommended dv camcorder

2005-11-21 Thread Phil Shapiro
hi everyone - at my new job i need to recommend a mini dv camcorder for purchase. i've long been a canon fan, but the new zr series canon mini dv camcorders do not have a microphone input. big mistake. i'd like to find a camcorder that can be reloaded with mini dv tape without being taken o

Re: RE : [DDN] Re: $100 laptop

2005-11-21 Thread Taran Rampersad
Emmanuel James Mjimapemba wrote: >How can one purchase these 'simputers'? That can really be a good facility >for underdeveloped countries. > > I dealt with Amida directly - http://www.amidasimputer.com -- Taran Rampersad Presently in: San Fernando, Trinidad [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.knowp

Re: [DDN] Re: $100 laptop

2005-11-21 Thread Taran Rampersad
Dave A. Chakrabarti wrote: > Lastly, in response to the poster who said she wouldn't give her > hard-earned dollars to an organization that focuses on the hardware > without considering the support / training issues, I disagree. Though > I think the Simputer is a more appropriate solution than the

Re: [DDN] $100 laptop

2005-11-21 Thread Taran Rampersad
Amy Kenyon wrote: > My feeling about all the naysayers is that it is better to be the > cheerleader of a great cause that fails then the naysayer of one that > succeeds. > I agree, and I'll add that it is better to be a cheerleader of a real cause than to be a cheerleader of one that isn't rea

Re: [DDN] Photos of the $100 Laptop, Booth, Meetings etc.

2005-11-21 Thread Subbiah Arunachalam
Dear Emanuel: You are not going to get the hundred dollar computer soon. It is NOT YET PRODUCED. They have just used the WSIS event to make a high profile announcement with a prototype. When it is ready you and I cannot buy it. The minimum order they would accept is a million units! One should hav

Re: RE : [DDN] Re: $100 laptop

2005-11-21 Thread Dave A. Chakrabarti
I would argue that the computer is a much more useful form of delivery than a TV set. Indeed, with the advent of municipal wireless, more and more traditional TV content will be delivered via broadband in any case. I'll give you an example, impossible with TVs...what if an organization were

Re: [DDN] Re: $100 laptop

2005-11-21 Thread Dave A. Chakrabarti
The $100 laptop is a marketing exercise, no doubt...but isn't everything? Linspire is currently moving to "sell" boxed versions of Open Office, simply because marketing will let them reach a greater number of people than the open source machine has currently reached...greater market penetration

[DDN] $100 laptop

2005-11-21 Thread Amy Kenyon
First, let me say that I am NOT an engineer, but rather a program manager for a non-profit urban technology program for teenagers in the US. So I preface all of my statements with my own experience. In reading about this laptop this morning, I trully say that I see the vision. All the

Re: [DDN] Re: $100 laptop

2005-11-21 Thread Chris Wilson
Hi Adite, On Mon, 2005-11-21 at 10:06 +0530, Adite Chatterjee wrote: > "Simputer has some good ideas, but only 32M of Flash. No room for > textbooks... No Keyboard." > In response to the above comment, just one tiny observation: pray, WHY would > an illiterate person sitting in remote Rajasthan i

Re: [DDN] NEWS: My departure from EDC & the future of DDN

2005-11-21 Thread Akif A Khan
Hi Andy and all on the list. I joined the group around a year back and was gradually picking up things then suddenly I got this touching mail from Andy. I still doubt ... will DDN be the same without him. But one thing is sure, he has taken DDN to hieght from where its a smooth sail in a rough whe

Re: [DDN] Re: $100 laptop

2005-11-21 Thread ehewitt
Agreed Adite. The point still is that the talent and "localized" knowledge of people in 'developing' countries must be supported in these areas to develop and maintain the required 'tools'. Its crucial!!! Errol Hewitt At 10:06 21/11/2005 +0530, you wrote: "Simputer has some good ideas, but on

Re: [DDN] Photos of the $100 Laptop, Booth, Meetings etc.

2005-11-21 Thread Larry Press
Nick Negroponte had an interesting exchange with the Communications Minister of (I think) Mali, who was trying to decide how much of his budget to spend on ICT infrastructure. One must consider opportunity cost. Would the Minister be better advised to spend $100 million on laptops or on commu

Re: RE : [DDN] Re: $100 laptop

2005-11-21 Thread Dave Pentecost
I think they mean 32 mb of flash memory (nonvolatile) as in your usb jumpdrives. On 11/21/05, Adite Chatterjee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sure. But are companies really interested in creating audiovisual animations > for the limited literate population, which is not really a very "lucrative" > t

Re: [DDN] Re: $100 laptop

2005-11-21 Thread Taran Rampersad
The reference to Flash, in this case, is dealing with RAM. Not the multimedia software, which as Andy points out could be useful (but begs the question, "How can people run it without being able to read." - solutions needed). Adite Chatterjee wrote: >"Simputer has some good ideas, but only 32M of

Re: [DDN] $100 Lap-top for every child in this world !!!

2005-11-21 Thread Taran Rampersad
John Thompson wrote: >Valid concerns. Good questions. > >However, can't we ever focus on the positive and not the negative?! If MIT >truly has a $100 laptop, isn't that a major breakthrough? MIT has done its >part. Now it's up to others, including the so-called Digital Divide >organizations, to c

Re: RE : [DDN] Re: $100 laptop

2005-11-21 Thread ehewitt
Agreed Adite -- surely we have to see the difference in roles of the 'tutor' and the 'student' -- the 'presenter' and the viewer etc!!! Errol Hewitt At 15:03 21/11/2005 +0530, you wrote: Sure. But are companies really interested in creating audiovisual animations for the limited literate popul

Re: RE : [DDN] Re: $100 laptop

2005-11-21 Thread Emmanuel James Mjimapemba
How can one purchase these 'simputers'? That can really be a good facility for underdeveloped countries. > How about because Flash can be used to create audiovisual animations for > limited literate populations? > > -- > --- > Andy Carvin > Program Director > EDC Cen

Re: [DDN] Re: $100 laptop

2005-11-21 Thread ehewitt
Bang on target Taran -- yet again Errol Hewitt At 18:11 20/11/2005 -0600, you wrote: Terry King wrote: > At 12:00 PM 11/20/2005 -0500, you wrote: > >> I suppose by buying a US$100 laptop an illiterate becomes literate and >> exploring the Internet fulfills the curriculum of all thirty plus >> s

Re: [DDN] Photos of the $100 Laptop, Booth, Meetings etc.

2005-11-21 Thread emjimapemba
Dear Terry, Where can one find these 100 dollar laptops? Are they real? We really would do with such facilities here in Africa. Or is it one of those offers only applicable to 'US Residents' ? So many 'free' computer offers are not applicable to addressees from the developing (or is underdeveloped

Re: [DDN] Re: $100 laptop

2005-11-21 Thread Adite Chatterjee
"Simputer has some good ideas, but only 32M of Flash. No room for textbooks... No Keyboard." In response to the above comment, just one tiny observation: pray, WHY would an illiterate person sitting in remote Rajasthan in India- where electricity, water, housing, food is a problem, need FLASH? De

Re: RE : [DDN] Re: $100 laptop

2005-11-21 Thread Adite Chatterjee
Sure. But are companies really interested in creating audiovisual animations for the limited literate population, which is not really a very "lucrative" target market. Even if they are being done, isn't television a better medium to target this audience? There is less of a learning curve involved,

RE : [DDN] Re: $100 laptop

2005-11-21 Thread Andy Carvin
How about because Flash can be used to create audiovisual animations for limited literate populations? -- --- Andy Carvin Program Director EDC Center for Media & Community acarvin @ edc . org http://www.digitaldivide.net Blog: http://www.andycarvin.com --

Re: [DDN] question about donations

2005-11-21 Thread manmust1
Alexis, You should try Verizon Foundation. Information is available at http://foundation.verizon.com/ Good Luck M. Femi Mustapha > Hello - I am on the board of a nonprofit organization that provides > housing for women who have come out of prison and are being reunited > with their children fr

Re: [DDN] $100 Lap-top for every child in this world !!!

2005-11-21 Thread Taran Rampersad
Cindy Lemcke-Hoong wrote: >... > I for one is going to stop giving my hard earned money to non-profit > organizations unless they can prove to me they have answers for these very > down-to-earth questions from me. I am not going to spend my meager wages > supporting MIT or anyone that is

[DDN] Photos of the $100 Laptop, Booth, Meetings etc.

2005-11-21 Thread Terry King
I put up a few photos I took the other day at WSIS, of the Laptop physical mockup, a Beta running version which I got to play with for a couple of minutes, and the interested crowds, as seen from inside the booth. There are also a couple of shots from the UNESCO meeting on making the Knowledge

Re: [DDN] Re: $100 laptop

2005-11-21 Thread Taran Rampersad
Terry King wrote: > At 12:00 PM 11/20/2005 -0500, you wrote: > >> I suppose by buying a US$100 laptop an illiterate becomes literate and >> exploring the Internet fulfills the curriculum of all thirty plus >> students >> in each class.!! >> I am of course, not under- valuing the phenomenal wealth

RE: [DDN] $100 Lap-top for every child in this world !!!

2005-11-21 Thread John Thompson
Valid concerns. Good questions. However, can't we ever focus on the positive and not the negative?! If MIT truly has a $100 laptop, isn't that a major breakthrough? MIT has done its part. Now it's up to others, including the so-called Digital Divide organizations, to come to the fore. This is a m