== Quote from Walter Bright (newshou...@digitalmars.com)'s article
...
> I do understand that if you have a full symbolic representation, you can do so
> with zero losses. But Kevin's proposal was not that, it was for a ratio
> representation.
>
> All it represents symbolically is division. There a
Trass3r wrote:
I guess it linked printf with DMC's printf in snn.lib though,
so there might be some problems with foreign RTLs when one goes too far.
Can we replace snn with the other RTL?
In 2.052 several of the most complicated dependencies on snn.lib (those
relating to exception handling)
I guess it linked printf with DMC's printf in snn.lib though,
so there might be some problems with foreign RTLs when one goes too far.
Can we replace snn with the other RTL?
dsimcha wrote:
You, my friend, have obviously never used a computer algebra system (my
favorite is Maxima) at all seriously. I'm not saying it's a practical
solution in the context of this discussion, but it is a possible
solution in a lot of cases. Basically, if you can't compute something
On 2/20/2011 11:32 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
Kevin Bealer wrote:
== Quote from Walter Bright (newshou...@digitalmars.com)'s article
Kevin Bealer wrote:
You could switch to this:
struct {
BigInt numerator;
BigInt denominator;
};
Bingo -- no compromise.
It cannot represent irrational numbers a
Kevin Bealer wrote:
== Quote from Walter Bright (newshou...@digitalmars.com)'s article
Kevin Bealer wrote:
You could switch to this:
struct {
BigInt numerator;
BigInt denominator;
};
Bingo -- no compromise.
It cannot represent irrational numbers accurately.
True but I did mention t
On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 16:50:25 -0500, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> Keep in mind though, I have *no* idea how "extern(...)" fits in to all
> of this.
The linkage is separate to the access and will continue when you change
from export to public.
== Quote from Walter Bright (newshou...@digitalmars.com)'s article
> Kevin Bealer wrote:
> > You could switch to this:
> >
> > struct {
> > BigInt numerator;
> > BigInt denominator;
> > };
> >
> > Bingo -- no compromise.
> It cannot represent irrational numbers accurately.
True but I did m
Are comparison operators too going vectorial?
void main() {
int[5] a1, a2, a3;
bool[5] b1, b2;
ubyte[5] u1, u2;
a1 = [1, 2, 3, 4, 5];
a2 = [5, 2, 1, 4, 4];
b1 = a1[] > 3;
assert(b1 == [false, false, false, true, true]);
u1 = a1[] > 3;
assert(u1 == [0, 0, 0, 1,
Jason House:
> How does it effect other cases?
I have asked for the timings for a small benchmark, and the results are good
(see the issue in Bugzilla).
Bye,
bearophile
Andrej Mitrovic:
> I'm sorry for hijacking this topic guys. :p
>
> I am getting somewhere though. GDC changeset 475, using GCC 4.5.0 with
> applied TDM-GCC 4.5.0 patches, with built gmp, mpc and mpftr. The
> Windows build documentation needs an update (I'll fix it myself given
> the chance).
If
Sounds promising. How does it effect other cases? Some typical GC-heavy
benchmark? Lots of smaller no scan objects that are just under your
optimization threshold?
dsimcha Wrote:
> http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5623
>
> I've found a way to speed up the GC massively on large hea
K, I've reported the bug.
I'm sorry for hijacking this topic guys. :p
I am getting somewhere though. GDC changeset 475, using GCC 4.5.0 with
applied TDM-GCC 4.5.0 patches, with built gmp, mpc and mpftr. The
Windows build documentation needs an update (I'll fix it myself given
the chance).
I've gotten build errors after:
m
On 2/21/2011 7:47 AM, Tyro[a.c.edwards] wrote:
The links for Documentation: Language Reference gets hidden when you
click on any of the following four items:
o Lexical
o Templates
o Inline Assembler
o Documentation Comments
- Andrew
By the way you cannot get to the list by clicking on Languag
Walter:
> MISRA is not suggesting having the language silently default to approximate
> equality.
Right. But I am not suggesting that, in what I have suggested there is nothing
silent :-)
Given:
double x, y;
I have suggested in D:
x == y => syntax error.
x is y => the same FP equality as t
== Quote from Andrej Mitrovic (andrej.mitrov...@gmail.com)'s article
> Now I've tried GCC v3.4.5, applied gcc-4.4.0-20080731-pex-win32.patch,
> applied the TDM GCC 3.4.5 patches, and I get the same thing:
> ---
> cc1d.exe - Application Error
> ---
> T
The links for Documentation: Language Reference gets hidden when you
click on any of the following four items:
o Lexical
o Templates
o Inline Assembler
o Documentation Comments
- Andrew
spir wrote:
Is there any plan for them in D2 in the future?
If you want to work on a library module that supports them, please have a go!
Kevin Bealer wrote:
> == Quote from Jonathan M Davis (jmdavisp...@gmx.com)'s article
> ...
>> It may be that you would still end up with situations where two values that
>> you
>> would think would be the same aren't due to rounding error or whatnot.
>> However,
>> with a fixed point value, you w
Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
> No I did that. And I've patched GCC 3.4.5.
>
> This step causes the crash at the end: make STAGE1_CFLAGS="-g3 -O0"
> 2>&1 | tee build.log
>
> Log:
> checking If /gdc/dev/build/gcc/./gcc/gdc -B/gdc/dev/build/gcc/./gcc/
> -L/gdc/dev/build/gcc/i686-pc-mingw32/winsup/mingw
>
I just took a stab at linking together different object formats with
UniLink.
Well, it just works(tm). So I may suggest to anyone having to link with
precompiled COFF static libs on windows to try it out.
For starters I just replaced most of my kernel32.lib, shell32.lib etc
with Microsoft SDK
On 02/20/2011 09:43 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
Jonathan M Davis wrote:
It may be that you would still end up with situations where two values that
you would think would be the same aren't due to rounding error or whatnot.
However, with a fixed point value, you wouldn't have the problem where a
par
"Nick Sabalausky" wrote in message
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> "Bekenn" wrote in message
> news:ijrjh2$20sv$1...@digitalmars.com...
>> On 2/19/2011 11:30 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
>>> "Bekenn" wrote in message
>>> news:ijqffm$6lk$1...@digitalmars.com...
>>> I'm not 100% certain,
"Bekenn" wrote in message
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> On 2/19/2011 11:30 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
>> "Bekenn" wrote in message
>> news:ijqffm$6lk$1...@digitalmars.com...
>> I'm not 100% certain, but I think this should already do what you want:
>>
>> export extern (Windows):
>>
nedbrek wrote:
Hope that helps,
Thanks, this is great info!
Now I've tried GCC v3.4.5, applied gcc-4.4.0-20080731-pex-win32.patch,
applied the TDM GCC 3.4.5 patches, and I get the same thing:
---
cc1d.exe - Application Error
---
The application failed to initialize properly (0xc005). Click on
OK to termin
David Wang wrote:
Why my doc version is ver 8.42n ?
It should be 8.52c when I download it from
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/Digital_Mars_C++/Patch/dm852c.zip, right ?
http://www.digitalmars.com/faq.html#version
Kevin Bealer wrote:
You could switch to this:
struct {
BigInt numerator;
BigInt denominator;
};
Bingo -- no compromise.
It cannot represent irrational numbers accurately.
Jonathan M Davis wrote:
It may be that you would still end up with situations where two values that you
would think would be the same aren't due to rounding error or whatnot. However,
with a fixed point value, you wouldn't have the problem where a particular value
could not be held in it even i
bearophile wrote:
There's a total lack of evidence for that.
MISRA-C standard disallows the equality among FP values. I presume they have
some serious evidence for their choices, but I don't know such evidence.
Today MISRA-C is one of the most serious attempts at fixing the holes in C
language
On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 15:19:24 -0500, dsimcha wrote:
http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5623
I've found a way to speed up the GC massively on large heaps without
excessive ripple effects. Technically it's still O(N), but with about a
hundred fold smaller constant in the case of l
Jonathan M Davis wrote:
There's way too much to worry about. I don't _want_ to have to be worrying about
rounding error and that sort of thing. I generally want to do whatever
calculations I need to do for a particular task and be done with it. Math
doesn't interest me enough for me to want to
Don writes:
> I don't like interval at all, because I don't think it includes the
> notion of 'stepping'. An interval is just, everything from A to B,
> without necessarily specifying how you reach everything in that
> interval. Whereas iota includes the stepping.
> (I would like to see intervals
http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5623
I've found a way to speed up the GC massively on large heaps without
excessive ripple effects. Technically it's still O(N), but with about a
hundred fold smaller constant in the case of large heaps with most stuff
not scanned. Now, I think t
On 2/20/11 12:20 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
With the most recent release, we got findSplit, findSplitBefore, and
findSplitAfter
in std.algorithm, which are all very useful and cool. However, in light of what
they can do, I'm wondering if we really need std.algorithm.until? It seems to me
that t
No I did that. And I've patched GCC 3.4.5.
This step causes the crash at the end: make STAGE1_CFLAGS="-g3 -O0"
2>&1 | tee build.log
Log:
checking If /gdc/dev/build/gcc/./gcc/gdc -B/gdc/dev/build/gcc/./gcc/
-L/gdc/dev/build/gcc/i686-pc-mingw32/winsup/mingw
-L/gdc/dev/build/gcc/i686-pc-mingw32/wins
== Quote from Andrej Mitrovic (andrej.mitrov...@gmail.com)'s article
> cc1d.exe crashed after an hour of building.
> Right, I'll stop trying now.
Mutters something about needing to compile gmp, mpfr (and probably mpc for 4.5)
before attempting to build gdc on Windows.
Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 19:21:05 -0500, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
"Jonathan M Davis" wrote in message
news:mailman.1787.1298108224.4748.digitalmar...@puremagic.com...
On Saturday 19 February 2011 01:12:25 Russel Winder wrote:
> Am I correct in assuming that DMD generates
cc1d.exe crashed after an hour of building.
Right, I'll stop trying now.
== Quote from Jonathan M Davis (jmdavisp...@gmx.com)'s article
...
> It may be that you would still end up with situations where two values that
> you
> would think would be the same aren't due to rounding error or whatnot.
> However,
> with a fixed point value, you wouldn't have the problem wher
On 2/19/2011 11:30 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
"Bekenn" wrote in message
news:ijqffm$6lk$1...@digitalmars.com...
I'm not 100% certain, but I think this should already do what you want:
export extern (Windows):
void func1();
int func2();
public:
void func3();
void func4();
Hmm... I think y
If I get this thing working I'll post binaries and a batch/shell
script that does all the work automatically. I really don't understand
the point of using MSYS and then writing a 2-page guide even though
MSYS has a working shell interpreter.
On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 22:39:10 -0500, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
"bearophile" wrote in message
news:ijpkh8$232r$1...@digitalmars.com...
dsimcha:
Yeh, I rebuilt the same model in my head over the past few hours (like
you, I had a good mental model of the GC at one point but have slowly
forgotten i
On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 02:19:39 -0500, Bekenn wrote:
The "export" keyword is a protection attribute, along with "private",
"package", "protected", and "public". This means that it can be used
with the same syntax as any of those other attributes; for instance, if
creating a D "header" for an
On 2011-02-20 13:53, Michel Fortin wrote:
On 2011-02-20 00:11:11 -0500, Jonathan M Davis said:
Posix defines the tzset function along with a few helper items. From
the Linux
man page:
extern int daylight;
extern long timezone;
extern char *tzname[2];
void tzset(void);
It seems that while the
On 2011-02-20 03:53, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
I've been updating the docs for my Goldie project in preparation of a new
release, and figured the they looked a bit...sterile, so I've tweaked the
CSS a bit. And, well, I think I've stumbled upon a heisencolor...(or a
heisenhue, rather)
Without readin
On 2/20/11 3:25 PM, David Wang wrote:
Why the same source file shows different results?
Because the array index »i« in your foreach loop is of type size_t,
which is uint (32 bit wide) on x86_32 and ulong (64 bit wide) on x86_64.
By the way, using D2, a shorter way to initialize the array wou
Thank you Brad Roberts, at first I remove MinGW's PATHs in my system, and then
I successfully compiled the DMD, then I added back the MinGW's PATHs to the
system. :-)
But, when I in Linux (Fedora 14 X86_64) system, I compiled a simple d file in
32bit model and 64 bit model I got different result
On Sunday 20 February 2011 05:21:12 spir wrote:
> On 02/20/2011 06:17 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
> > On Saturday 19 February 2011 20:46:50 Walter Bright wrote:
> >> bearophile wrote:
> >>> Walter:
> That'll just trade one set of problems for another.
> >>>
> >>> But the second set of problem
On Sunday 20 February 2011 04:53:03 Michel Fortin wrote:
> On 2011-02-20 00:11:11 -0500, Jonathan M Davis said:
> > Posix defines the tzset function along with a few helper items. From the
> > Linux man page:
> >
> > extern int daylight;
> > extern long timezone;
> > extern char *tzname[2];
> > v
On 02/20/2011 06:17 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Saturday 19 February 2011 20:46:50 Walter Bright wrote:
bearophile wrote:
Walter:
That'll just trade one set of problems for another.
But the second set of problems may be smaller :-)
There's a total lack of evidence for that. Furthermore,
Russel Winder wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-02-18 at 13:20 +, Lars T. Kyllingstad wrote:
>> On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 08:08:46 -0500, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 07:56:46 -0500, Matthias Pleh
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
There is the special Token __VERSION__ which gives an integer.
>>
On 2011-02-20 00:11:11 -0500, Jonathan M Davis said:
Posix defines the tzset function along with a few helper items. From the Linux
man page:
extern int daylight;
extern long timezone;
extern char *tzname[2];
void tzset(void);
It seems that while these _are_ Posix, not all Posix systems decla
Walter:
> There's a total lack of evidence for that.
MISRA-C standard disallows the equality among FP values. I presume they have
some serious evidence for their choices, but I don't know such evidence. Today
MISRA-C is one of the most serious attempts at fixing the holes in C language
to writ
win32.mak is only intended for use with the digitalmars version of make, not
gnu make. It's shipped with both dmd and dmc.
On 2/20/2011 4:29 AM, David Wang wrote:
> Sorry, I think I should post my question here except "digitalmars.D.bugs".
>
> I've installed dmc and dmd2 by the "dinstaller.exe"
Sorry, I think I should post my question here except "digitalmars.D.bugs".
I've installed dmc and dmd2 by the "dinstaller.exe" from
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dinstaller.exe
After finished, I downloaded the latest dmd, druntime and phobos from github.com
When I try to compile the dmd source thro
Nick Sabalausky wrote:
...and reply with what color you think the background looks like (the
main background, not the sidebar). And whether or not you like it
would be helpful, too, of course.
Dirty light gray. It's easy on the eyes, and provides good contrast. I
like it.
--
Simen
On Sat, 2011-02-19 at 15:28 -0800, Walter Bright wrote:
> Russel Winder wrote:
> > Am I correct in assuming that DMD generates 32-bit by default and that
> > for 64-bit you have to give the -m64 option?
> >
> > Is the eventual plan to use the natural word length of the platform as
> > the default,
On 02/20/2011 03:53 AM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
I've been updating the docs for my Goldie project in preparation of a new
release, and figured the they looked a bit...sterile, so I've tweaked the
CSS a bit. And, well, I think I've stumbled upon a heisencolor...(or a
heisenhue, rather)
Without rea
Jonathan M Davis napisał:
> Does anyone have a good reason why the findSplit* functions don't make until
> obsolete and unnecessary?
Until is lazy, findSplit* are not.
--
Tomek
"Don" wrote in message
news:ijmndc$3e5$1...@digitalmars.com...
> Nick Sabalausky wrote:
>>
>> I like "interval", too.
>>
>> I do think the name "iota" is a nice extra reason to just use a..b or
>> a..b:c like you say. It also makes it clear that it's a series of
>> discrete values rather than
On Sunday 20 February 2011 01:20:34 Walter Bright wrote:
> Jonathan M Davis wrote:
> > Regardless, I'm glad that I don't generally have to do much in the way of
> > math- centric programming.
>
> Why not? I enjoyed it.
There's way too much to worry about. I don't _want_ to have to be worrying
ab
Iain Buclaw wrote:
I wish someone released prebuilt versions.
Compiling GCC on Windows is a PITA.
Windows is a PITA, period.
I tried using it as an everyday OS the other week. Something that I will never
try
again any time soon...
Fortunately one can run MinGW on other platforms, even if c
Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Ahh, I was confusing "gene" with "chromosome" (and probably still got the
exact number wrong ;) ).
That you did. Humans have 23 chromosome pairs. But now you know!
--
Simen
Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
>On 2/20/11, Trass3r wrote:
>>> I'm very interested in trying out GDC with D2 on Win32. I fear
>>> compiling GDC is gonna be tricky though. Has anyone had success with
>>> it? Hand me a few tips before I venture into the unknown, please!
>>> (and if I'm successful I'll uploa
On 20.02.2011 3:48, spir wrote:
On 02/20/2011 12:46 AM, bearophile wrote:
In a Python module if you define a name with a starting underscore,
that name will be private to that module, and it will not be imported
if a command "from module_name import *" is used:
class Name1: pass
def name2():
Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
>On 2/20/11, Trass3r wrote:
>>> I'm very interested in trying out GDC with D2 on Win32. I fear
>>> compiling GDC is gonna be tricky though. Has anyone had success with
>>> it? Hand me a few tips before I venture into the unknown, please!
>>> (and if I'm successful I'll uploa
Jonathan M Davis wrote:
Regardless, I'm glad that I don't generally have to do much in the way of math-
centric programming.
Why not? I enjoyed it.
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