On 2/22/2012 7:51 PM, bearophile wrote:
Andrei says that some new languages suffer because they have a poor
implementation, because creating the base for a language is a lot of work.
Today this is issue is much less of a problem, new languages are implemented
on the JavaVM,
Using the JVM
On Wednesday, 22 February 2012 at 00:39:17 UTC, Walter Bright
wrote:
http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/C9-GoingNative/GoingNative-6-The-D-Episode-with-Walter-Bright-and-Andrei-Alexandrescu
You want 1 million users? Simple... is just Andrei start saying
that he use D on FB and you will get it 10
On 23-02-2012 07:51, Walter Bright wrote:
On 2/22/2012 7:51 PM, bearophile wrote:
Andrei says that some new languages suffer because they have a poor
implementation, because creating the base for a language is a lot of
work.
Today this is issue is much less of a problem, new languages are
On 23 February 2012 04:26, Stewart Gordon smjg_1...@yahoo.com wrote:
On 21/02/2012 00:53, James Miller wrote:
snip
There are a potentially infinite number of possible configurations,
and sites need to be aimed at the lowest-common denominator. Doesn't
look right with an enlarged font size?
Le 23/02/2012 18:27, Andrei Alexandrescu a écrit :
http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/q2pmd/inheriting_purity_in_the_d_programming_language/
Andrei
I'm still not convinced by const (this can lead to very confusing
cases), but for everything else, this is great job.
On 2/23/2012 5:33 AM, James Miller wrote:
Question: Can I save enough money by September to pay for return
flights from NZ and accomodation for a week?
Answer: Probably not, but I can try!
On the plus side, Astoria isn't an expensive place to stay at, and in September
there won't be the
On Thursday, 23 February 2012 at 19:54:00 UTC, Walter Bright
wrote:
On 2/23/2012 5:33 AM, James Miller wrote:
Question: Can I save enough money by September to pay for
return
flights from NZ and accomodation for a week?
Answer: Probably not, but I can try!
On the plus side, Astoria isn't an
I just realised that I'll be 21 by then too, I wont have to be annoyed by
not being able to drink.
James Miller -- On The Go
On Thursday, 23 February 2012 at 19:48:11 UTC, deadalnix wrote:
Le 23/02/2012 18:27, Andrei Alexandrescu a écrit :
http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/q2pmd/inheriting_purity_in_the_d_programming_language/
Andrei
I'm still not convinced by const (this can lead to very
confusing
On 24-02-2012 05:06, Jeff Nowakowski wrote:
On 02/23/2012 11:57 AM, Alex Rønne Petersen wrote:
I still cannot fathom how the Scala guys thought using the JVM was a
good idea.
It gave them a good garbage collector (an area that has held D's
performance back for years), a large library via
On 23 February 2012 18:19, dolive doliv...@sina.com wrote:
c:\wxdset WXDIR=c:\wxWidgets-2.8.12
c:\wxdmake COMPILER=DMD LIBRARY=Phobos DFLAGS+=-d
make -C wxc WX_RELEASE
make[1]: Entering directory `/wxd/wxc'
g++ -D__DMD__ `wx-config --cxxflags` -O2 -Wall -c -o wx-release.o
wx-release.cp
p
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 06:02:30PM +1300, James Miller wrote:
[...]
And I've been playing with trying to write my own terminal emulator. I
actually kinda have one working, in C. I just need to wrap all the C
code in functions and do all the interesting stuff in D.
[...]
But I have plans for
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 04:00:04AM +0100, Juan Manuel Cabo wrote:
[...]
I'm sorry. I went over the top. I apollogize.
I apologize too, for some of the inflammatory things I said in the heat
of the moment in some of my replies to this thread.
..I won't post for a while.
This thread is almost
Am 22.02.2012 22:32, schrieb H. S. Teoh:
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 07:56:15PM +0100, Benjamin Thaut wrote:
[...]
2) Tracking references on the stack:
The D compiler always needs to emit a full stack frame so that the
GC can walk up the stack at any time in the program. The stack frame
of every
Is it possible to forward rvalues through variadic templates?
Having to move the value for every layer is suboptimal.
What am I doing wrong?
--
import std.algorithm : move;
void foo(Unique!Handle uniq)
{
auto val = uniq.extract;
assert(val._fd == 1);
val.close();
}
void
On 2/21/2012 2:29 PM, Ali Çehreli wrote:
On 02/18/2012 09:09 PM, Jim Hewes wrote:
I think of exception handling as tied to contract programming.
I think your use of the word 'contract' is colliding with the contract
programming feature. What you describe later does not match with the
On 2012-02-22 22:37, David Nadlinger wrote:
On Wednesday, 22 February 2012 at 21:36:10 UTC, David Nadlinger wrote:
-oq, anyone? ;)
Whoops, forgot the link:
https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/pull/563.
David
I've tried to implement that several times but something always fails on
On 2012-02-22 20:40, H. S. Teoh wrote:
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 07:56:15PM +0100, Benjamin Thaut wrote:
As I'm not satisfied with the current GC D has and don't see the
situation improving in the future without significant changes to the
compiler I wrote the following document that points out
On 02/20/2012 09:31 PM, H. S. Teoh wrote:
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 04:24:44AM +0100, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
On Tuesday, 21 February 2012 at 03:13:10 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
for x in *; mv $x dest/$x; done
Easy. :)
And wrong!
What if the filename has a space in it? You can say $x, with quotes,
Am 23.02.2012 00:03, schrieb Jonathan M Davis:
On Wednesday, February 22, 2012 23:50:53 Bernard Helyer wrote:
Except DMD is faster by a factor of 10 when passing it all at
once.
Then maybe there _should_ be a flag to tell it to use/generate the
appropriate
directory structure. You
H. S. Teoh wrote:
So for example, here's a function that computes the average of
an array:
}efas erup tsnoc a f~a+z!~ni z@# b! $
a c)0=
hcaerof~d=b! $c^)d=%
nruter c(b{htgnel=
%
Here's an example of how to use it:
tropmi
On Feb 22, 2012, at 8:07 PM, Martin Nowak d...@dawgfoto.de wrote:
4) Thread local / global memory
A callback into the runtime needs to happen in the following cases:
- a __gshared variable is assigned
- a reference / pointer is casted to immutable
- a reference / pointer is casted to
On 2012-02-22 23:42, Brad Roberts wrote:
On Wed, 22 Feb 2012, David Nadlinger wrote:
On Wednesday, 22 February 2012 at 21:36:10 UTC, David Nadlinger wrote:
-oq, anyone? ;)
Whoops, forgot the link:
https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/pull/563.
David
If only one of the attempts
On 23 February 2012 02:25, Vladimir Panteleev
vladi...@thecybershadow.net wrote:
I played with some algorithms today and got about a 7x improvement in
reduction time for my test case. The data is now arranged into a binary
tree, and the progress indicator was changed to reflect that. Let me
On Wednesday, February 22, 2012 22:33:47 Jim Hewes wrote:
On 2/21/2012 2:29 PM, Ali Çehreli wrote:
On 02/18/2012 09:09 PM, Jim Hewes wrote:
I think of exception handling as tied to contract programming.
I think your use of the word 'contract' is colliding with the contract
On 2012-02-22 23:05, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Wednesday, February 22, 2012 22:33:35 Bernard Helyer wrote:
A discussion on the Mono-D IRC channel just made me realise
something.
dmd -c foo/a.d bar/a.d
The second module overwrites the first. This makes using 'pass
everything at once' with
On 22 February 2012 20:56, Benjamin Thaut c...@benjamin-thaut.de wrote:
2) Tracking references on the stack:
The D compiler always needs to emit a full stack frame so that the GC can
walk up the stack at any time in the program.
You say every function needs a stack frame. Can you comment on
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 03:56:49AM +0100, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
I started the dshell just to waste a little time:
http://arsdnet.net/dcode/dshell.d
dmd dshell.d -L-lreadline -L-lncurses
It doesn't do much here, but there's a few things I think
are cool:
1) D reflection rox.
I played with some algorithms today and got about a 7x improvement in
reduction time for my test case. The data is now arranged into a binary
tree, and the progress indicator was changed to reflect that. Let me
know if I broke anything in the process.
Hooray, DustMite ftw!
Unfortunately plenty of 64Bit errors again :/
On 2012-02-22 23:43, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Wednesday, February 22, 2012 23:33:57 Bernard Helyer wrote:
On Wednesday, 22 February 2012 at 22:05:51 UTC, Jonathan M Davis
wrote:
Then what happens when you have
dmc -c foo/a.d foo_a.d
Good point.
Regardless, I really wouldn't like the
On 2012-02-22 23:33, Bernard Helyer wrote:
On Wednesday, 22 February 2012 at 22:05:51 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
Then what happens when you have
dmc -c foo/a.d foo_a.d
Good point.
Regardless, I really wouldn't like the idea of screwing with the
object file
names to try and avoid
On 2012-02-23 00:03, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Wednesday, February 22, 2012 23:50:53 Bernard Helyer wrote:
Except DMD is faster by a factor of 10 when passing it all at
once.
Then maybe there _should_ be a flag to tell it to use/generate the appropriate
directory structure. You already
On Thursday, 23 February 2012 at 11:52:17 UTC, Trass3r wrote:
Unfortunately plenty of 64Bit errors again :/
I can't test for these easily (I wish DMD on Windows had -m64
working with -o-).
Shared in D2 has been a stub for ages now.
I'm affraid it will never get implemented if we don't define any
priority for it.
D2 is supposed to provide a very elegant way to handle concurency, but,
in the current state of the language, it is unusable. If we want that
language to succeed (and
James Miller дµ½:
On 23 February 2012 18:19, dolive doliv...@sina.com wrote:
c:\wxdset WXDIR=c:\wxWidgets-2.8.12
c:\wxdmake COMPILER=DMD LIBRARY=Phobos DFLAGS+=-d
make -C wxc WX_RELEASE
make[1]: Entering directory `/wxd/wxc'
g++ -D__DMD__ Â `wx-config --cxxflags` -O2 -Wall -c -o
On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:32:37 -0600, H. S. Teoh hst...@quickfur.ath.cx wrote:
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 07:56:15PM +0100, Benjamin Thaut wrote:
[...]
2) Tracking references on the stack:
The D compiler always needs to emit a full stack frame so that the
GC can walk up the stack at any time in the
On 23/02/2012 13:05, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
On Thursday, 23 February 2012 at 11:52:17 UTC, Trass3r wrote:
Unfortunately plenty of 64Bit errors again :/
I can't test for these easily (I wish DMD on Windows had -m64 working
with -o-).
Fixed - https://github.com/CyberShadow/DustMite/pull/7
Hello!
After posting about how to resolve object-relational impedance
mismatch using D dilemma, I did some more homework and today finally
(after being advised in sqlite group) went through The Vietnam of
Computer Science
Hi,
FYI. I'm getting:
NNTP error: 441 From: address not in Internet syntax
when trying to post via http://forum.dlang.org/ . It's often for me to
hit bugs regarding my email address ending with info.
Surpringly, posting using Pan (Gnome NNTP client) works OK.
Regards,
--
Dawid Ciężarkiewicz
Hi,
# Introduction
I've started some initial work to get a working GDC crosscompiler
targeting ARM platforms. Currently I'm able to compile the
toolchain and produce a working Hello World! binary that I'm
able to execute on my BeagleBoard developement platform with
ArchLinux installed. The
Le 22/02/2012 20:53, Benjamin Thaut a écrit :
If you have a better idea for percise stack scanning I'm open for
suggestions.
This is the problem with your proposal. It doesn't consider pro and cons
and actual data. It doesn't consider the alternatives. You go straight
to « How can we do
Le 23/02/2012 15:50, Gour a écrit :
Hello!
After posting about how to resolve object-relational impedance
mismatch using D dilemma, I did some more homework and today finally
(after being advised in sqlite group) went through The Vietnam of
Computer Science
You didn't mention what is the most important IMO.
In D, most data are thread local. Shared data are either shared or
immutable.
Both thread local data and immutable data lead to very interesting GC
optimisations. This is where we need language support.
On 17/02/2012 02:49, Walter Bright wrote:
Given:
class A { void foo() { } }
class B : A { override pure void foo() { } }
This works great, because B.foo is covariant with A.foo, meaning it can
tighten, or place more restrictions, on foo. But:
class A { pure void foo() { } }
class B : A {
On 17/02/2012 05:08, Kapps wrote:
On Friday, 17 February 2012 at 03:24:50 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Thursday, February 16, 2012 18:49:40 Walter Bright wrote:
Given:
class A { void foo() { } }
class B : A { override pure void foo() { } }
This works great, because B.foo is covariant with
On 2/23/2012 8:59 AM, Bruno Medeiros wrote:
I would even add to this that it might be useful to have similar syntax that
would allow to define an override method without having to specify the return
type nor the parameters of the overridden method. Sometimes in class hierarchies
there is a lot
Am Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:25:59 + (UTC)
schrieb Dawid Ciężarkiewicz d...@ucore.info:
Hi,
# Introduction
I've started some initial work to get a working GDC crosscompiler
targeting ARM platforms. Currently I'm able to compile the
toolchain and produce a working Hello World! binary that
On 2/23/2012 6:50 AM, Gour wrote:
I'm curious if
anyone more experienced with using FP paradigm in D can comment what
works nicely and is there anything important missing in today's
implementation of D?
The main issue with FP in D today is it needs to be pervasively used in Phobos.
A large
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 08:15:52AM +0100, Martin Nowak wrote:
Is it possible to forward rvalues through variadic templates?
Having to move the value for every layer is suboptimal.
What am I doing wrong?
--
import std.algorithm : move;
void foo(Unique!Handle uniq)
{
auto
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 02:57:43AM -0800, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
[...]
DbC tends to work better with internal stuff where you control both
the caller and the callee, whereas defensive programming works better
with public APIs. But regardless, which is best to use depends on the
situtation
On 23 February 2012 19:28, F i L witte2...@gmail.com wrote:
H. S. Teoh wrote:
So for example, here's a function that computes the average of an array:
}efas erup tsnoc a f~a+z!~ni z@# b! $
a c)0=
hcaerof~d=b! $c^)d=%
nruter c(b{htgnel=
On 23 February 2012 19:41, H. S. Teoh hst...@quickfur.ath.cx wrote:
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 06:02:30PM +1300, James Miller wrote:
[...]
And I've been playing with trying to write my own terminal emulator. I
actually kinda have one working, in C. I just need to wrap all the C
code in functions
On 23 February 2012 05:09, Regan Heath re...@netmail.co.nz wrote:
On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:19:17 -, Andrei Alexandrescu
seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org wrote:
On 2/21/12 5:55 AM, Regan Heath wrote:
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 23:04:59 -, Andrei Alexandrescu
seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org wrote:
On 23 February 2012 18:03, Johannes Pfau nos...@example.com wrote:
Am Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:25:59 + (UTC)
schrieb Dawid Ciężarkiewicz d...@ucore.info:
Hi,
# Introduction
I've started some initial work to get a working GDC crosscompiler
targeting ARM platforms. Currently I'm able to
Vladimir Panteleev vladi...@thecybershadow.net wrote in message
news:mnaydzddphyxlgpsw...@forum.dlang.org...
On Thursday, 23 February 2012 at 11:52:17 UTC, Trass3r wrote:
Unfortunately plenty of 64Bit errors again :/
I can't test for these easily (I wish DMD on Windows had -m64 working
with
On 2/23/2012 5:32 AM, deadalnix wrote:
Shared in D2 has been a stub for ages now.
I'm affraid it will never get implemented if we don't define any priority for
it.
D2 is supposed to provide a very elegant way to handle concurency, but, in
the current state of the language, it is
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 06:01:48PM +0100, deadalnix wrote:
[...]
Additionnaly, the stack is made like a linked list. Each function
calling another one register the return address. With this
information, we can have data about what is on the stack except for
the very last function called with
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 01:51:31PM +0200, Manu wrote:
[...]
I wonder if there are alternative ways to detect a foreign stack. And
I'm not sure why it even matters, you can't depend on the extern ABI,
how do you unwind the stack reliably in the first place?
[...]
This is a bit off-topic, but
On Thursday, February 23, 2012 07:47:55 H. S. Teoh wrote:
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 02:57:43AM -0800, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
[...]
DbC tends to work better with internal stuff where you control both
the caller and the callee, whereas defensive programming works better
with public APIs.
If it can be applied to const, wouldn't it be like const by
convention that you argued against?
On Friday, 17 February 2012 at 02:49:40 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
Given:
class A { void foo() { } }
class B : A { override pure void foo() { } }
This works great, because B.foo is
On 2/17/12 7:44 PM, bearophile wrote:
A tiny little file lines reading benchmark I've just found on Reddit:
http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/pub98/a_benchmark_for_reading_flat_files_into_memory/
http://steve.80cols.com/reading_flat_files_into_memory_benchmark.html
The Ruby code
On 02/23/12 20:58, H. S. Teoh wrote:
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 01:51:31PM +0200, Manu wrote:
[...]
I wonder if there are alternative ways to detect a foreign stack. And
I'm not sure why it even matters, you can't depend on the extern ABI,
how do you unwind the stack reliably in the first place?
On Thursday, February 23, 2012 12:06:54 Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2012-02-22 23:05, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
If you're going to worry about modules when generating object files, then
you really should be putting the object files in the same directory
layout as the modules have. But that sort
On Thursday, 23 February 2012 at 18:32:12 UTC, Walter Bright
wrote:
Not a bad idea, but it would be problematic if there were any
overloads.
It is still applicable to return types.
But i don't like the idea. If you omit arguments and return type,
you force both yourself and the reader to
Dnia Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:41:53 +, Iain Buclaw napisał(a):
Does crosstools allow you to build a cross compiler for architecture X?
Yes, exactly. Canadian cross-compilers too. So other architectures could
potenatially work, too. I don't have equipement to test them.
--
Dawid Ciężarkiewicz
On Friday, 17 February 2012 at 03:24:50 UTC, Jonathan M Davis
wrote:
No. Absolutely not. I hate the fact that C++ does this with
virtual. It makes
it so that you have to constantly look at the base classes to
figure out what's
virtual and what isn't. It harms maintenance and code
Dnia Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:03:46 +0100, Johannes Pfau napisał(a):
That's issue 120:
https://bitbucket.org/goshawk/gdc/issue/120/fsection-anchors-broken-on-
arm
Thanks. Must try without -O2 now.
Integrating GDC with crosstools is nice. If you find the time, could you
please add a page to the GDC
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 12:38:52AM +1300, James Miller wrote:
On 23 February 2012 19:41, H. S. Teoh hst...@quickfur.ath.cx wrote:
[...]
Perhaps there's a way of detecting JPEG or PNG output, say some kind
of magic number detection ala /usr/bin/file. Buffer the first few
bytes at output at
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 09:18:22PM +0100, Artur Skawina wrote:
On 02/23/12 20:58, H. S. Teoh wrote:
[...]
This is a bit off-topic, but what happens in the current
implementation if you pass a D callback to a C function, and then
throw an exception from the callback? Does it work? Or does it
2012/2/23 Dawid Ciężarkiewicz d...@ucore.info:
Dnia Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:03:46 +0100, Johannes Pfau napisał(a):
That's issue 120:
https://bitbucket.org/goshawk/gdc/issue/120/fsection-anchors-broken-on-
arm
Thanks. Must try without -O2 now.
-O2 is fine as long as you also use
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 01:42:44PM +0100, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2012-02-23 00:03, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Wednesday, February 22, 2012 23:50:53 Bernard Helyer wrote:
Except DMD is faster by a factor of 10 when passing it all at once.
Then maybe there _should_ be a flag to tell it to
On Thursday, 23 February 2012 at 21:17:35 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
Taking the idea of an in-terminal video player further, what
about a general escape sequence for application-specific
output?
html.
seriously, once you take the in-terminal stuff too far, you
have a beast of a program that
On my machine (Mac OSX Lion), the Python code clocks around 1.2 seconds
and the D code at a whopping 9.3 seconds. I looked around where the
problem lies and sure enough the issue was with a slow loop in the
generic I/O implementation of readln. The commit
On Thursday, 23 February 2012 at 22:01:43 UTC, F i L wrote:
UTC, so wrote:
If you are not using an IDE or a mouse, this would be hell.
lol wut? This isn't the 80's.
In all seriousness, I think you're decoupling inherently
ingrained pieces: the language and it's tools. The same way you
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 10:34:24PM +0100, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
On Thursday, 23 February 2012 at 21:17:35 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
Taking the idea of an in-terminal video player further, what about
a general escape sequence for application-specific output?
html.
That gives you the funny
On Thursday, 23 February 2012 at 21:28:17 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 01:42:44PM +0100, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2012-02-23 00:03, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Wednesday, February 22, 2012 23:50:53 Bernard Helyer wrote:
Except DMD is faster by a factor of 10 when passing it all
On Thursday, 23 February 2012 at 23:06:56 UTC, Bernard Helyer
wrote:
Did you not read what Jacob posted?
my.module.A.o
my_module_A.o
my_module.A.o
my.module_A.o
No conflicts.
Also, you can't have a package called module.
On Thursday, 23 February 2012 at 17:10:58 UTC, Bruno Medeiros
wrote:
Sounds like a good idea.
I would even add to this that it might be useful to have
similar syntax that would allow to define an override method
without having to specify the return type nor the parameters of
the overridden
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 12:07:40PM -0800, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Thursday, February 23, 2012 07:47:55 H. S. Teoh wrote:
[...]
The way I understand it, DbC is used for ensuring *program*
correctness (ensure that program logic does not get itself into a
bad state); defensive programming
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 12:06:19AM +0100, Jason House wrote:
On Thursday, 23 February 2012 at 17:10:58 UTC, Bruno Medeiros wrote:
I would even add to this that it might be useful to have similar
syntax that would allow to define an override method without
having to specify the return type nor
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:01:42PM +0100, F i L wrote:
UTC, so wrote:
If you are not using an IDE or a mouse, this would be hell.
lol wut? This isn't the 80's.
I still don't use an IDE or a mouse when I code. And I don't plan to.
(In fact, I rather plan the *opposite*.)
In all
On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 00:24:16 +0100, Andrei Alexandrescu
seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org wrote:
On 2/23/12 3:40 PM, Martin Nowak wrote:
On my machine (Mac OSX Lion), the Python code clocks around 1.2
seconds and the D code at a whopping 9.3 seconds. I looked around
where the problem lies and
On Thursday, 23 February 2012 at 23:40:28 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
Omitting argument names/types is very evil. It opens up the
possibility
of changing the base class and introducing nasty subtle bugs in
the
derived class without any warning. For example:
Good catch.
UTC, so wrote:
No one said you shouldn't use IDE or any other tool, but i
don't think it is healthy to design a language with such
assumptions. Walter himself was against this and stated why he
doesn't like Java way of doing things, one of the reason was
the language was relying on IDEs.
On Thursday, February 23, 2012 15:18:27 H. S. Teoh wrote:
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 12:07:40PM -0800, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
In my book, a linked library shares equal status with the main
program, therefore the definition of user input still sits at the
internal-to-program and external
On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 00:24:16 +0100, Andrei Alexandrescu
[...]
Yah, feel free to work opportunistically on this if you find the
time. However, I think long-term we want to give byLine() the freedom
of doing its own buffering.
[...]
And while we're working with byLine(), it would be nice if
H. S. Teoh wrote:
In all seriousness, I think you're decoupling inherently
ingrained
pieces: the language and it's tools. The same way you *need*
syntax
highlighting to distinguish structure,
I don't.
wait... you don't even use Syntax Highlighting? Are you insane,
you'll go blind!
And
On Friday, 24 February 2012 at 00:01:52 UTC, F i L wrote:
It's unrealistic to think people (at large) will be writing any
sort of serious application outside of a modern IDE.
You would be surprised or i should rather say shocked? :)
I used to be an IDE fanatic as well, then i took an arrow...
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 01:01:51AM +0100, F i L wrote:
UTC, so wrote:
No one said you shouldn't use IDE or any other tool, but i don't
think it is healthy to design a language with such assumptions.
Walter himself was against this and stated why he doesn't like Java
way of doing things, one
On 2/23/12 6:01 PM, F i L wrote:
It's unrealistic to think people (at large) will be writing any sort of
serious application outside of a modern IDE.
You'd hate working for Facebook :o).
Andrie
On Thursday, February 23, 2012 16:38:13 H. S. Teoh wrote:
When you have a *real* text editor at your disposal, writing code is
actually on par, if not better, than development in an IDE. I'd like to
think that it's only because I'm a weirdo who lived past my generation
and still haven't moved
On 24 February 2012 12:03, H. S. Teoh hst...@quickfur.ath.cx wrote:
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 10:34:24PM +0100, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
On Thursday, 23 February 2012 at 21:17:35 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
Taking the idea of an in-terminal video player further, what about
a general escape sequence for
On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 08:15:52 +0100, Martin Nowak d...@dawgfoto.de wrote:
Is it possible to forward rvalues through variadic templates?
Having to move the value for every layer is suboptimal.
What am I doing wrong?
A working solution was to let move return a proxy which defers the move
until
On 24 February 2012 13:15, F i L witte2...@gmail.com wrote:
H. S. Teoh wrote:
In all seriousness, I think you're decoupling inherently ingrained
pieces: the language and it's tools. The same way you *need* syntax
highlighting to distinguish structure,
I don't.
wait... you don't even use
Well, I can't make any promises, but you can try this:
https://bitbucket.org/ariovistus/pyd
it seems not to be compiling with the 2.058 front end, but I think it
should with the 2.057 front end and ldc.
python headers are updated to support 2.5 thru 2.7, though I only tested
with 2.7
good
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 06:05:20PM +1300, James Miller wrote:
[...]
My ongoing quest for productivity has led me to believe that, unless
you want to be tied to a technology, back to basics is the best way.
That's an interesting observation. I have to agree.
I personally believe that any set
On 02/23/2012 11:40 PM, Ellery Newcomer wrote:
Well, I can't make any promises, but you can try this:
https://bitbucket.org/ariovistus/pyd
it seems not to be compiling with the 2.058 front end, but I think it
should with the 2.057 front end and ldc.
crumb, I take that back
Anyone know why
I've been trying to fix issue 4155, but it's a little difficult without the
ability to test on x64 (I'm on win32). Could anybody compile the following
code for me with 'dmd -m64' with this patch
https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/pull/760 and send me the
disassembly?
Thanks.
On Thursday, February 23, 2012 23:52:09 Ellery Newcomer wrote:
On 02/23/2012 11:40 PM, Ellery Newcomer wrote:
Well, I can't make any promises, but you can try this:
https://bitbucket.org/ariovistus/pyd
it seems not to be compiling with the 2.058 front end, but I think it
should with
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