On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:01:42PM +0100, F i L wrote: > UTC, so wrote: > >If you are not using an IDE or a mouse, this would be hell. > > lol wut? This isn't the 80's.
I still don't use an IDE or a mouse when I code. And I don't plan to. (In fact, I rather plan the *opposite*.) > In all seriousness, I think you're decoupling inherently ingrained > pieces: the language and it's tools. The same way you *need* syntax > highlighting to distinguish structure, I don't. > you *should* have other productivity tools to help you analyze > data-layout. It's not like these tools don't exist in abundance on > every platform. I don't use them. > And MS has pulled some really stupid shit in its day, but it's > developer tools and support do not fall under that category. True, they have their value. I don't argue with that. But why should anyone be *forced* to use them? They're just tools. A language is a language (a set of syntax and grammar rules with the associated semantics). It's not inherently tied to any tools. T -- Microsoft is to operating systems & security ... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking.