Re: shared - i need it to be useful

2018-10-21 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 22 October 2018 at 00:22:19 UTC, Manu wrote: On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 2:35 PM Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d wrote: On 10/21/2018 2:08 PM, Walter Bright wrote: > On 10/21/2018 12:20 PM, Nicholas Wilson wrote: >> Yes, but the problem you describe is arises from implicit >> conversio

Re: Interesting Observation from JAXLondon

2018-10-20 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 21 October 2018 at 01:12:44 UTC, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote: On 10/12/18 4:05 AM, Vijay Nayar wrote: But the D community has also been very receptive of changes to the language The community is. I don't feel like it's been true of the leadership for some years now (and I do

Re: Need help with setting up LDC to cross-compile to Android/ARM

2018-10-20 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
i, Oct 19, 2018 at 08:50:36PM +, Joakim via Digitalmars-d wrote: On Wednesday, 17 October 2018 at 21:23:21 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote: > I'm trying to follow the instructions on this page: > > https://wiki.dlang.org/Build_D_for_Android [...] On a side note, the last section on that pa

Re: Need help with setting up LDC to cross-compile to Android/ARM

2018-10-19 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 19 October 2018 at 20:50:36 UTC, Joakim wrote: On Wednesday, 17 October 2018 at 21:23:21 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote: I'm trying to follow the instructions on this page: https://wiki.dlang.org/Build_D_for_Android [...] Hmm, that's weird: can you extract the full compiler command

Re: Need help with setting up LDC to cross-compile to Android/ARM

2018-10-19 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 17 October 2018 at 21:23:21 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote: I'm trying to follow the instructions on this page: https://wiki.dlang.org/Build_D_for_Android [...] Hmm, that's weird: can you extract the full compiler command for that file? For example, if you use Ninja, by appendin

[OT] Android

2018-10-19 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 18 October 2018 at 19:37:24 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote: On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 07:09:42PM +, Patrick Schluter via Digitalmars-d wrote: [...] I often have the impression that a lot of things are going slower than necessary because a mentality where the perfect is in the way of good.

Re: shared - i need it to be useful

2018-10-17 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 17 October 2018 at 23:12:48 UTC, Manu wrote: On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 2:15 PM Stanislav Blinov via Digitalmars-d wrote: On Wednesday, 17 October 2018 at 19:25:33 UTC, Manu wrote: > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 12:05 PM Stanislav Blinov via > Digitalmars-d wrote: >> >> On Wednesday,

Re: Interesting Observation from JAXLondon

2018-10-12 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 12 October 2018 at 07:13:33 UTC, Russel Winder wrote: On Thu, 2018-10-11 at 13:00 +, bachmeier via Digitalmars-d wrote: […] Suggestions? My guess is that the reason they've heard of those languages is because their developers were writing small projects using Go and Rust, but n

Re: Interesting Observation from JAXLondon

2018-10-11 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 11 October 2018 at 12:22:19 UTC, Vijay Nayar wrote: On Thursday, 11 October 2018 at 11:50:39 UTC, Joakim wrote: On Thursday, 11 October 2018 at 07:58:39 UTC, Russel Winder wrote: This was supposed to come to this list not the learn list. On Thu, 2018-10-11 at 07:57 +0100, Russel W

Re: Interesting Observation from JAXLondon

2018-10-11 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 11 October 2018 at 07:58:39 UTC, Russel Winder wrote: This was supposed to come to this list not the learn list. On Thu, 2018-10-11 at 07:57 +0100, Russel Winder wrote: It seems that in the modern world of Cloud and Kubernetes, and the charging model of the Cloud vendors, that the

Re: Please don't do a DConf 2018, consider alternatives

2018-10-04 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 4 October 2018 at 10:02:28 UTC, Russel Winder wrote: On Thu, 2018-10-04 at 08:06 +, Joakim via Digitalmars-d wrote: […] The link in my OP links to a guy who maintained a spreadsheet of Apple-related conferences as evidence. He lists several that went away and says nothing

Re: Please don't do a DConf 2018, consider alternatives

2018-10-04 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 4 October 2018 at 08:54:29 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote: On Thursday, 4 October 2018 at 08:06:24 UTC, Joakim wrote: On Thursday, 4 October 2018 at 07:53:54 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote: [...] Did anybody pay attention to the live talks either? ;) That's the real comparison. Anyway, the re

Re: Please don't do a DConf 2018, consider alternatives

2018-10-04 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 4 October 2018 at 07:12:03 UTC, Russel Winder wrote: On Wed, 2018-10-03 at 18:46 +, Joakim via Digitalmars-d wrote: […] I don't doubt that some are like you and prefer viewing live, but given how conferences keep dying off and online tech talks are booming, you

Re: Please don't do a DConf 2018, consider alternatives

2018-10-03 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 3 October 2018 at 17:51:00 UTC, Russel Winder wrote: On Wed, 2018-10-03 at 17:26 +, Joakim via Digitalmars-d wrote: […] At least look at the first two bullet points in my post responding to Adam, because you're missing the entire point of my suggestions, which is that ce

Re: Please don't do a DConf 2018, consider alternatives

2018-10-03 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 3 October 2018 at 17:13:51 UTC, Dejan Lekic wrote: On Wednesday, 3 October 2018 at 16:21:45 UTC, Joakim wrote: Like most of the responses in this thread, I have no idea why you're stumping for in-person interaction, when all my suggestions were geared around having _more in-person

Re: Please don't do a DConf 2018, consider alternatives

2018-10-03 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 3 October 2018 at 11:48:06 UTC, Dejan Lekic wrote: On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 06:26:30 UTC, Joakim wrote: I'm sure some thought and planning is now going into the next DConf, so I'd like to make sure people are aware that the conference format that DConf uses is dying off, as e

Re: Please don't do a DConf 2018, consider alternatives

2018-10-03 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 3 October 2018 at 01:28:37 UTC, Adam Wilson wrote: On 10/2/18 4:34 AM, Joakim wrote: On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 09:39:14 UTC, Adam Wilson wrote: On 10/1/18 11:26 PM, Joakim wrote: [snip] I disagree. It is not clear what you disagree with, since almost nothing you say has

Re: Please don't do a DConf 2018, consider alternatives

2018-10-03 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 16:10:20 UTC, Johannes Loher wrote: On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 15:42:20 UTC, Joakim wrote: On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 15:03:45 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote: That is what Joakim is talking about - changing the main event to be more like the after-hours stuff every

Re: Please don't do a DConf 2018, consider alternatives

2018-10-02 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 15:03:45 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote: That is what Joakim is talking about - changing the main event to be more like the after-hours stuff everyone loves so much, to actually use all the time to maximize the potential of in-person time. I'm talking about growing two

Re: Please don't do a DConf 2018, consider alternatives

2018-10-02 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 14:49:31 UTC, bachmeier wrote: On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 06:26:30 UTC, Joakim wrote: "Once the videos are all up, set up weekend meetups in several cities [all over the world], where a few livestreamed talks may talk place if some speakers don't want to spend

Re: Please don't do a DConf 2018, consider alternatives

2018-10-02 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 10:37:44 UTC, Nicholas Wilson wrote: On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 06:26:30 UTC, Joakim wrote: [...] As I'm sure has been said before, if it were just the talks it probably wouldn't be worth it. But conferences are sooo much more than just the talks. Its

Re: Please don't do a DConf 2018, consider alternatives

2018-10-02 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 09:39:14 UTC, Adam Wilson wrote: On 10/1/18 11:26 PM, Joakim wrote: [snip] I disagree. It is not clear what you disagree with, since almost nothing you say has any bearing on my original post. To summarize, I suggest changing the currently talk-driven DConf fo

Re: Please don't do a DConf 2018, consider alternatives

2018-10-02 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 08:21:11 UTC, maarten van damme wrote: While I have never attended dconf itself, conferences itself usually aren't about the talks but about the people you meet and get to interact with. Since this thread is about replacing the outdated DConf format with two poss

Re: Please don't do a DConf 2018, consider alternatives

2018-10-02 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 08:08:38 UTC, Gary Willoughby wrote: On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 07:32:58 UTC, Joakim wrote: Thank you for making clear that the real reason you and some others like the current format is because you want to have a fun "vacation"- as I pointed out in that earlier

Re: Please don't do a DConf 2018, consider alternatives

2018-10-02 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 07:14:54 UTC, bauss wrote: On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 06:26:30 UTC, Joakim wrote: [...] I highly disagree with this. I love conferences and meetups. It's good socially and a conference is not 100% just about the topic it hosts. I think you didn't read what

Please don't do a DConf 2018, consider alternatives

2018-10-01 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
I'm sure some thought and planning is now going into the next DConf, so I'd like to make sure people are aware that the conference format that DConf uses is dying off, as explained here: https://marco.org/2018/01/17/end-of-conference-era There was a discussion about this in a previous forum th

Re: Funny way to crash dmd and brick the whole computer

2018-10-01 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 28 September 2018 at 11:58:25 UTC, Zardoz wrote: CTE fib : module fib_cte; import std.stdio; long fib(long n) { if (n <= 1) return 1; return fib(n - 1) + fib(n - 2); } static immutable valueFib = fib(46); void main() { writeln(valueFib); } I tried it on Android with LDC,

Re: Updating D beyond Unicode 2.0

2018-09-21 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 21 September 2018 at 20:25:54 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: When I originally started with D, I thought non-ASCII identifiers with Unicode was a good idea. I've since slowly become less and less enthusiastic about it. First off, D source text simply must (and does) fully support Unicod

Re: Jai compiles 80,000 lines of code in under a second

2018-09-20 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 21 September 2018 at 00:47:27 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote: Of course, D can also take ages to compile one line of code. It all depends on that that line is doing... ctfe and templates are slow. C or Java style code compiling in D is very fast. I was going to say this too, ie how much o

dub auto-tester

2018-09-19 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 20 September 2018 at 04:16:41 UTC, Neia Neutuladh wrote: On Thursday, 20 September 2018 at 02:51:52 UTC, Neia Neutuladh wrote: On Monday, 10 September 2018 at 01:27:20 UTC, Neia Neutuladh wrote: Not on dlang.org anywhere, but I built a crude version of this. Results are available a

Re: Mobile is the new PC and AArch64 is the new x64

2018-09-18 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 18 September 2018 at 18:06:37 UTC, Neia Neutuladh wrote: On Tuesday, 18 September 2018 at 07:53:31 UTC, Joakim wrote: On Monday, 17 September 2018 at 22:27:41 UTC, Neia Neutuladh wrote: On Monday, 17 September 2018 at 15:47:14 UTC, Joakim wrote: Not sure why that matters if you agre

Re: Mobile is the new PC and AArch64 is the new x64

2018-09-18 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 17 September 2018 at 22:27:41 UTC, Neia Neutuladh wrote: On Monday, 17 September 2018 at 15:47:14 UTC, Joakim wrote: Not sure why that matters if you agree with Kay that HTML is an abortion? :) I actually think it's great that mobile is killing off the web, as the Comscore usage stat

Re: Mobile is the new PC and AArch64 is the new x64

2018-09-17 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 16 September 2018 at 15:41:41 UTC, tide wrote: On Sunday, 16 September 2018 at 15:11:42 UTC, Joakim wrote: I say that almost 30% drop in PC sales over the last 7 years is mostly due to the rise of mobile. I think a large part of it is that PCs got fast enough for most people about

Re: Mobile is the new PC and AArch64 is the new x64

2018-09-16 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 16 September 2018 at 10:25:30 UTC, Dave Jones wrote: On Sunday, 16 September 2018 at 04:47:11 UTC, Joakim wrote: On Sunday, 16 September 2018 at 01:03:27 UTC, Dave Jones wrote: I know a lot of people who did, which explains the 28% drop in PC sales since they peaked in 2011, the year

Re: Mobile is the new PC and AArch64 is the new x64

2018-09-15 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 16 September 2018 at 01:03:27 UTC, Dave Jones wrote: On Saturday, 15 September 2018 at 15:25:55 UTC, Joakim wrote: On Friday, 14 September 2018 at 09:23:24 UTC, Dave Jones wrote: On Thursday, 13 September 2018 at 22:56:31 UTC, Joakim wrote: On Thursday, 13 September 2018 at 22:41:08

Re: Mobile is the new PC and AArch64 is the new x64

2018-09-15 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 14 September 2018 at 09:23:24 UTC, Dave Jones wrote: On Thursday, 13 September 2018 at 22:56:31 UTC, Joakim wrote: On Thursday, 13 September 2018 at 22:41:08 UTC, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote: On 09/10/2018 11:13 PM, tide wrote: On Monday, 10 September 2018 at 13:43:46 UTC, Joak

Re: Mobile is the new PC and AArch64 is the new x64

2018-09-14 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 14 September 2018 at 16:53:16 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote: On 14 September 2018 at 09:51, Joakim via Digitalmars-d wrote: On Wednesday, 12 September 2018 at 22:41:31 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote: On 12 September 2018 at 10:09, Joakim via Digitalmars-d wrote: I think their model of having

Re: Mobile is the new PC and AArch64 is the new x64

2018-09-14 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 12 September 2018 at 22:41:31 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote: On 12 September 2018 at 10:09, Joakim via Digitalmars-d wrote: I think their model of having an open ISA with proprietary extensions will inevitably win out for hardware, just as a similar model has basically won already for

Re: Mobile is the new PC and AArch64 is the new x64

2018-09-13 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 13 September 2018 at 22:41:08 UTC, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote: On 09/10/2018 11:13 PM, tide wrote: On Monday, 10 September 2018 at 13:43:46 UTC, Joakim wrote: That's why PC sales keep dropping while mobile sales are now 6-7X that per year: This shouldn't be misunderstood as

Re: Mobile is the new PC and AArch64 is the new x64

2018-09-12 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 12 September 2018 at 15:38:36 UTC, Joakim wrote: the world is right now? It's not IBM, Apple, Whoops, meant to write Intel here, but wrote Apple again. :D

Re: Mobile is the new PC and AArch64 is the new x64

2018-09-12 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 12 September 2018 at 06:41:38 UTC, Gambler wrote: On 9/10/2018 9:43 AM, Joakim wrote: Yes, I know, these devices won't replace your quad-core Xeon workstation with 32-64 GBs of RAM anytime soon, but most people don't need anywhere near that level of compute. That's why PC sales k

Re: Mobile is the new PC and AArch64 is the new x64

2018-09-12 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 11 September 2018 at 08:34:31 UTC, Chris wrote: On Tuesday, 11 September 2018 at 07:23:53 UTC, Joakim wrote: I agree with a lot of what you say here, but I'm not sure what you mean by "first class support for mobile." What exactly do you believe D needs to reach that level? Bas

Re: Mobile is the new PC and AArch64 is the new x64

2018-09-11 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 11 September 2018 at 07:42:38 UTC, passenger wrote: On Monday, 10 September 2018 at 13:43:46 UTC, Joakim wrote: [...] Is it possible to develop versus a NVidia Jetson, CUDA included? I think so, but I doubt anyone has ever actually tried it: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/autonomo

Re: Mobile is the new PC and AArch64 is the new x64

2018-09-11 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 11 September 2018 at 06:42:26 UTC, Chris wrote: On Monday, 10 September 2018 at 19:28:01 UTC, aberba wrote: On Monday, 10 September 2018 at 16:09:41 UTC, rjframe wrote: That's exactly whats happening in Africa. The continent is leapfrogging from nothing to a smart phone thanks t

Re: Mobile is the new PC and AArch64 is the new x64

2018-09-10 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 10 September 2018 at 13:43:46 UTC, Joakim wrote: LDC recently added a linux/AArch64 CI for both its main branches and 64-bit ARM, ie AArch64, builds have been put out for both linux and Android. It does not seem that many are paying attention to this sea change that is going on with

Re: Mobile is the new PC and AArch64 is the new x64

2018-09-10 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 10 September 2018 at 15:06:46 UTC, Claude wrote: On Monday, 10 September 2018 at 13:43:46 UTC, Joakim wrote: Despite all this, D may never do very well on mobile or AArch64, even though I think it's well-suited for that market. But at the very least, you should be looking at mobile a

Re: Mobile is the new PC and AArch64 is the new x64

2018-09-10 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 10 September 2018 at 14:00:43 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote: On 10 September 2018 at 15:43, Joakim via Digitalmars-d wrote: LDC recently added a linux/AArch64 CI for both its main branches and 64-bit ARM, ie AArch64, builds have been put out for both linux and Android. It does not seem

Mobile is the new PC and AArch64 is the new x64

2018-09-10 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
LDC recently added a linux/AArch64 CI for both its main branches and 64-bit ARM, ie AArch64, builds have been put out for both linux and Android. It does not seem that many are paying attention to this sea change that is going on with computing though, so let me lay out some evidence. At my w

Re: This is why I don't use D.

2018-09-10 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 10 September 2018 at 01:27:20 UTC, Neia Neutuladh wrote: On Wednesday, 5 September 2018 at 05:44:38 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote: To me, this strongly suggests the following idea: - add *all* dlang.org packages to our current autotester / CI infrastructure. - if a particular (version of a)

Re: This is why I don't use D.

2018-09-08 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 8 September 2018 at 01:32:19 UTC, Everlast wrote: On Saturday, 8 September 2018 at 00:53:33 UTC, Neia Neutuladh wrote: [...] There are ways around this: [...] Is there any other language that does any of this? I don't think any language does all of it, so do you plan to wait a

Re: What changes to D would you like to pay for?

2018-09-06 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 7 September 2018 at 05:31:22 UTC, Mike Franklin wrote: On Wednesday, 5 September 2018 at 07:00:49 UTC, Joakim wrote: The D foundation is planning to add a way for us to pay for changes we'd like to see in D and its ecosystem, rather than having to code everything we need ourselves or

Re: This is why I don't use D.

2018-09-06 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 6 September 2018 at 18:20:05 UTC, Bastiaan Veelo wrote: On Wednesday, 5 September 2018 at 05:44:38 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote: To me, this strongly suggests the following idea: - add *all* dlang.org packages to our current autotester / CI infrastructure. - if a particular (version of a

Re: Dicebot on leaving D: It is anarchy driven development in all its glory.

2018-09-06 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 6 September 2018 at 16:44:11 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote: On Thu, Sep 06, 2018 at 02:42:58PM +, Dukc via Digitalmars-d wrote: On Thursday, 6 September 2018 at 14:17:28 UTC, aliak wrote: > // D > auto a = "á"; > auto b = "á"; > auto c = "\u200B"; > auto x = a ~ c ~ a; > auto y = b ~ c

Re: Dicebot on leaving D: It is anarchy driven development in all its glory.

2018-09-06 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 6 September 2018 at 09:35:27 UTC, Chris wrote: On Thursday, 6 September 2018 at 08:44:15 UTC, nkm1 wrote: On Wednesday, 5 September 2018 at 07:48:34 UTC, Chris wrote: On Tuesday, 4 September 2018 at 21:36:16 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: Autodecode - I've suffered under that, too. Th

Re: Dicebot on leaving D: It is anarchy driven development in all its glory.

2018-09-06 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 6 September 2018 at 07:23:57 UTC, Chris wrote: On Wednesday, 5 September 2018 at 22:00:27 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote: // Seriously, people need to get over the fantasy that they can just use Unicode without understanding how Unicode works. Most of the time, you can get the illusio

What changes to D would you like to pay for?

2018-09-05 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
The D foundation is planning to add a way for us to pay for changes we'd like to see in D and its ecosystem, rather than having to code everything we need ourselves or find and hire a D dev to do it: "[W]e’re going to add a page to the web site where we can define targets, allow donations thr

Re: extern(C++, ns) is wrong

2018-09-04 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 5 September 2018 at 01:20:26 UTC, Manu wrote: On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 at 17:50, tide via Digitalmars-d wrote: On Wednesday, 5 September 2018 at 00:35:50 UTC, Manu wrote: > On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 at 17:30, tide via Digitalmars-d > wrote: >> [...] > > And yes, the example is actually com

Re: D is dead (was: Dicebot on leaving D: It is anarchy driven development in all its glory.)

2018-09-04 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 4 September 2018 at 13:34:03 UTC, TheSixMillionDollarMan wrote: On Tuesday, 4 September 2018 at 01:36:53 UTC, Mike Parker wrote: On Monday, 3 September 2018 at 18:26:57 UTC, Chris wrote: And of course, low manpower and funding aren't the complete picture. Management also play a rol

D IDE

2018-09-03 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 3 September 2018 at 16:55:10 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote: But if you're ever expecting IDE support to be a top priority of many of the contributors, then you're going to be sorely disappointed. It's the sort of thing that we care about because we care about D being successful, but it

Re: DMD cross compiler

2018-09-03 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 3 September 2018 at 09:21:21 UTC, bauss wrote: On Sunday, 2 September 2018 at 01:52:18 UTC, Joakim wrote: On Saturday, 1 September 2018 at 20:12:24 UTC, Manu wrote: [...] What specifically do you want to cross-compile to, something like Windows to macOS? LDC already does all this,

Re: [OT] college

2018-09-03 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 2 September 2018 at 19:30:58 UTC, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote: On 09/02/2018 05:43 AM, Joakim wrote: Most will be out of business within a decade or two, as online learning takes their place. I kinda wish I could agree with that, but schools are too much of a sacred cow to be

[OT] college

2018-09-02 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 2 September 2018 at 07:56:09 UTC, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote: On 09/02/2018 02:06 AM, Joakim wrote: On Sunday, 2 September 2018 at 05:16:43 UTC, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote: Smug as I may have been at the at the time, it wasn't until later I realized the REAL smart ones

Re: This thread on Hacker News terrifies me

2018-09-01 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 2 September 2018 at 05:16:43 UTC, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote: On 09/02/2018 12:53 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote: Ouch. Seriously, seriously ouch. Heh, yea, well...that particular one was state party school, so, what y'gonna do? *shrug* Smug as I may have been at the at the t

Re: DMD cross compiler

2018-09-01 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 1 September 2018 at 20:12:24 UTC, Manu wrote: I know there's been discussion on this before, I just want a definitive reference. It looks like it would be relatively straight forward for DMD to be a cross-compiler. A few version() statements could be runtime if's, and that's pre

Re: Who can make Phobos faster to import?

2018-08-30 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 27 December 2017 at 15:12:28 UTC, Joakim wrote: On Wednesday, 27 December 2017 at 10:40:38 UTC, RazvanN wrote: [...] I think I did all this with a dead-simple patch to dmd three years ago: [...] Hey Razvan, are you doing anything with this? Never heard back after my last po

Re: [OT] Leverage Points

2018-08-30 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 20 August 2018 at 12:26:25 UTC, Laeeth Isharc wrote: On Monday, 20 August 2018 at 11:55:33 UTC, Joakim wrote: "So how do you change paradigms? Thomas Kuhn, who wrote the seminal book about the great paradigm shifts of science, has a lot to say about that. In a nutshell, you keep poin

Re: Go 2 draft

2018-08-29 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 29 August 2018 at 07:03:13 UTC, JN wrote: Found this interesting link on proggit - https://go.googlesource.com/proposal/+/master/design/go2draft.md D is mentioned in the generics part: https://go.googlesource.com/proposal/+/master/design/go2draft-generics-overview.md Interestin

Re: D is dead (was: Dicebot on leaving D: It is anarchy driven development in all its glory.)

2018-08-28 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 28 August 2018 at 13:39:40 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote: On Thursday, 23 August 2018 at 15:35:45 UTC, Joakim wrote: On Thursday, 23 August 2018 at 07:37:07 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote: On Thursday, 23 August 2018 at 06:58:13 UTC, Joakim wrote: On Thursday, 23 August 2018 at 03:50:44 UTC, Shach

Re: Dicebot on leaving D: It is anarchy driven development in all its glory.

2018-08-27 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 27 August 2018 at 16:15:37 UTC, 12345swordy wrote: On Monday, 27 August 2018 at 14:26:08 UTC, Chris wrote: On Monday, 27 August 2018 at 13:48:42 UTC, 12345swordy wrote: On Monday, 27 August 2018 at 09:36:43 UTC, Chris wrote: On Monday, 27 August 2018 at 01:15:49 UTC, Laeeth Isharc w

Re: Dicebot on leaving D: It is anarchy driven development in all its glory.

2018-08-24 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 24 August 2018 at 19:26:40 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 8/24/2018 6:04 AM, Chris wrote: For about a year I've had the feeling that D is moving too fast and going nowhere at the same time. D has to slow down and get stable. D is past the experimental stage. Too many people use it for

Re: Dicebot on leaving D: It is anarchy driven development in all its glory.

2018-08-23 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 23 August 2018 at 18:27:27 UTC, Abdulhaq wrote: On Thursday, 23 August 2018 at 09:51:43 UTC, rikki cattermole wrote: Good luck getting W&A to agree to it, especially when there is yet another "critical D opportunity" on the table ;) No. They have power for as long as we the commun

Re: D is dead

2018-08-23 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 23 August 2018 at 17:52:54 UTC, bachmeier wrote: On Thursday, 23 August 2018 at 17:19:41 UTC, Ali wrote: On Thursday, 23 August 2018 at 16:22:54 UTC, Shachar Shemesh wrote: On 23/08/18 17:01, Steven Schveighoffer wrote: My main job is to develop for Weka, not develop D itself. We

Re: D is dead

2018-08-23 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 23 August 2018 at 17:02:12 UTC, Shachar Shemesh wrote: On 23/08/18 18:35, Joakim wrote: So your example of a fatal flaw is that D could be 100X faster at compilation instead of just 10X than most every other native language out there?! C'mon. Have you tried Stephan's example

Re: D is dead (was: Dicebot on leaving D: It is anarchy driven development in all its glory.)

2018-08-23 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 23 August 2018 at 07:37:07 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote: On Thursday, 23 August 2018 at 06:58:13 UTC, Joakim wrote: On Thursday, 23 August 2018 at 03:50:44 UTC, Shachar Shemesh wrote: On 22/08/18 21:34, Ali wrote: On Wednesday, 22 August 2018 at 17:42:56 UTC, Joakim wrote: Pretty positi

Re: D is dead (was: Dicebot on leaving D: It is anarchy driven development in all its glory.)

2018-08-23 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 23 August 2018 at 03:50:44 UTC, Shachar Shemesh wrote: On 22/08/18 21:34, Ali wrote: On Wednesday, 22 August 2018 at 17:42:56 UTC, Joakim wrote: Pretty positive overall, and the negatives he mentions are fairly obvious to anyone paying attention. Yea, I agree, the negatives are n

Re: Dicebot on leaving D: It is anarchy driven development in all its glory.

2018-08-22 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 22 August 2018 at 11:59:37 UTC, Paolo Invernizzi wrote: Just found by chance, if someone is interested [1] [2]. /Paolo [1] https://gitlab.com/mihails.strasuns/blog/blob/master/articles/on_leaving_d.md [2] https://blog.mist.global/articles/My_concerns_about_D_programming_language

Re: [OT] Leverage Points

2018-08-20 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 20 August 2018 at 04:46:35 UTC, Laeeth Isharc wrote: On Sunday, 19 August 2018 at 18:49:53 UTC, Joakim wrote: On Saturday, 18 August 2018 at 13:33:43 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: A friend recommended this article: http://donellameadows.org/archives/leverage-points-places-to-inter

Re: [OT] Leverage Points

2018-08-19 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 18 August 2018 at 13:33:43 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: A friend recommended this article: http://donellameadows.org/archives/leverage-points-places-to-intervene-in-a-system/ I found it awesome and would recommend to anyone in this community. Worth a close read - no skimming, n

Re: Found on proggit: Nim receives funding from a company (D should be doing something like this)

2018-08-17 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 17 August 2018 at 00:06:27 UTC, Laeeth Isharc wrote: On Tuesday, 14 August 2018 at 07:05:12 UTC, Joakim wrote: [...] Have you read Peter Thiel's Zero to One and seen his YouTube talks on secrets etc? [...] Nothing here contradicts my stated goals and method: increasing the usa

Found on proggit: Why D is a good choice for writing a language

2018-08-16 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
By our very own BBasile of Coedit fame: https://lambdahackers.com/@b4asile/why-d-is-a-good-choice-for-writing-a-toy-language-4vapyvas5a

Re: Found on proggit: Nim receives funding from a company (D should be doing something like this)

2018-08-16 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 15 August 2018 at 20:45:34 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 8/13/18 5:50 AM, Joakim wrote: [...] Thanks for the info. That's good for Nim and something we could definitely benefit from as well. Currently, Sebastian Wilzbach and Razvan Nitu, both students, are working full tim

Re: Found on proggit: Nim receives funding from a company (D should be doing something like this)

2018-08-14 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 14 August 2018 at 02:49:58 UTC, Mike Franklin wrote: On Monday, 13 August 2018 at 09:50:29 UTC, Joakim wrote: Announced last week, the Nim team will be adding two full-time paid devs and setting up grants for needed projects with this new funding: :jealous: However, there are oth

Re: dub is not able to install any package

2018-08-13 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 13 August 2018 at 13:02:43 UTC, Adil wrote: dub build Package gelfd not found in registry at https://code.dlang.org/ (fallback ["registry at http://code.dlang.org/";, "registry at https://code-mirror.dlang.io/";, "registry at https://code-mirror2.dlang.io/";, "registry at https://d

Found on proggit: Nim receives funding from a company (D should be doing something like this)

2018-08-13 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
Announced last week, the Nim team will be adding two full-time paid devs and setting up grants for needed projects with this new funding: https://our.status.im/status-partners-with-the-team-behind-the-programming-language-nim/ https://nim-lang.org/blog/2018/08/07/nim-partners-with-status.html

Nice quote about D on twitter

2018-08-10 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
Can we stick this in the testimonials webpage? ;) "Barely figuring out the #dlang design choices, and I'm already perceiving C++ as a knapsack with stone picks of random sizes.." https://mobile.twitter.com/nikos_maximus/status/1027519165937184768

Re: Automate the collection and publishing of data for monitoring D's progress as a software development project

2018-08-08 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 7 August 2018 at 17:47:45 UTC, Venu Vardhan Reddy Tekula wrote: Hello everyone, as I said before here, https://forum.dlang.org/post/dbmottqhsyxdizfkg...@forum.dlang.org, I am interested in "Automate the collection and publishing of data for monitoring D's progress as a software develo

Re: Whence came UFCS?

2018-07-27 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 27 July 2018 at 05:22:17 UTC, Joakim wrote: On Friday, 27 July 2018 at 03:41:29 UTC, Sameer Pradhan wrote: During our Boston D Meetup today, we went through and deconstructed Walter's wonderfully elegant blog post from 2012 called "Component Programming in D" [...] Extension meth

Re: Moving druntime into the DMD repository

2018-07-27 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 27 July 2018 at 11:03:50 UTC, Seb wrote: This a thread to explore whether it would be feasible to do so. Motivation -- [...] Not much. - Do you have a better suggestion? No. - Would this break your workflow in a drastic way? No, don't really use the official repos a

Re: Whence came UFCS?

2018-07-26 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 27 July 2018 at 03:41:29 UTC, Sameer Pradhan wrote: During our Boston D Meetup today, we went through and deconstructed Walter's wonderfully elegant blog post from 2012 called "Component Programming in D" [...] Extension methods were added to C# 3.0 in 2007, UFCS was discussed as

Re: C's Biggest Mistake on Hacker News

2018-07-23 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 23 July 2018 at 11:51:54 UTC, Jim Balter wrote: On Sunday, 22 July 2018 at 20:10:27 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 7/21/2018 11:53 PM, Walter Bright wrote: My article C's Biggest Mistake on front page of https://news.ycombinator.com ! Direct link: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id

Re: How to define syscall() in freebsd?

2018-07-12 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 12 July 2018 at 13:55:58 UTC, Brian wrote: the code is error: extern (C) nothrow @nogc size_t syscall(size_t ident); extern (C) nothrow @nogc size_t syscall(size_t ident, size_t arg0); extern (C) nothrow @nogc size_t syscall(size_t ident, long* arg0); long tid; syscall(SYS_thr_se

Re: Sutter's ISO C++ Trip Report - The best compliment is when someone else steals your ideas....

2018-07-11 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 11 July 2018 at 12:45:40 UTC, crimaniak wrote: On Tuesday, 10 July 2018 at 22:59:08 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote: Or aside from that strawman that RangeError shouldn't be an Error even... I suspect that we're going to have to agree to disagree on that one. ... ... continuing t

Re: Adding more projects to the Project Tester

2018-07-05 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 6 July 2018 at 03:19:44 UTC, Seb wrote: So learning from the recent Vibe.d regression fiasco (we temporarily disabled a subconfiguration in Vibe.d and promptly got a regression in 2.081), I think we should try to add more projects to the Project Tester. The current list is here: ht

Re: dmd optimizer now converted to D!

2018-07-03 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 3 July 2018 at 21:57:07 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: A small, but important milestone has been achieved! Many thanks for the help from Sebastian Wilzbach and Rainer Schuetze. Fantastic, I see that 35 of 88 files in the backend have been translated or added in D, with more being done

Re: 64bit DMD on Windows

2018-06-30 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 30 June 2018 at 22:38:13 UTC, 0xEAB wrote: On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 23:57:51 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote: This has been a showstopper for me on low-memory machines. If I hadn't been using a high-memory system when I first tried out D, I might have just walked away. Confirmed. On a Ra

Re: Is it possible to set up DConf Asia?

2018-06-30 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 30 June 2018 at 08:27:30 UTC, 鲜卑拓跋枫 wrote: On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 14:52:45 UTC, Joakim wrote: On Friday, 29 June 2018 at 12:13:09 UTC, 鲜卑拓跋枫 wrote: [...] So do people in US and Europe, the vast majority of whom watching the livestream or online videos didn't attend DConf.

Re: Is it possible to set up DConf Asia?

2018-06-29 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 30 June 2018 at 05:36:52 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote: On Saturday, June 30, 2018 02:34:00 Joakim via Digitalmars-d wrote: On Saturday, 30 June 2018 at 02:23:57 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote: > [...] That's nice, but since you present no arguments other than simply stat

Re: Is it possible to set up DConf Asia?

2018-06-29 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 30 June 2018 at 02:23:57 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote: On Saturday, June 30, 2018 02:08:08 Joakim via Digitalmars-d wrote: [...] The response is that those of us who have gone to dconf have found it to be valuable. It's not just that we're doing what others have done

Re: Is it possible to set up DConf Asia?

2018-06-29 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 30 June 2018 at 01:52:15 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote: On Saturday, June 30, 2018 01:43:32 Joakim via Digitalmars-d wrote: On Saturday, 30 June 2018 at 01:33:34 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote: > On Saturday, June 30, 2018 01:12:10 Joakim via Digitalmars-d > > wrote: >&g

Re: Is it possible to set up DConf Asia?

2018-06-29 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 30 June 2018 at 01:33:34 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote: On Saturday, June 30, 2018 01:12:10 Joakim via Digitalmars-d wrote: Yes, this is about those people, who as that blog post notes, are wasting a ton of money on an outdated ritual that no longer makes sense. If you believe the

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