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Hmm, maybe I'll give it a try then next time I need a new one.
Leeme see if I have the names of these wireless ones right:
1. First there was Wireless Trackman and it sucked.
2. Then there was TrackMan Silver (which was a little
On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 10:41:31 -0500, Steven Schveighoffer
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On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 10:20:38 -0500, David Nadlinger s...@klickverbot.at
wrote:
On 1/26/12 4:06 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
[…]And the
backspace key is labeled delete, and I still don't know how to do
On 27 January 2012 05:53, Andrew Wiley wiley.andre...@gmail.com wrote:
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The command key has a long
history in the Unix
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Iain Buclaw ibuc...@ubuntu.com wrote:
On 27 January 2012 05:53, Andrew Wiley wiley.andre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Nick Sabalausky a@a.a wrote:
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On 1/26/12 5:29 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 1/26/12 10:41 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 10:20:38 -0500, David Nadlinger s...@klickverbot.at
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Fn + Backspace, on my Macbook Pro.
Thank you :) I will try it next time I use my macbook pro. And I forgot
about that
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On Friday, January 27, 2012 18:08:43 Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Ewww. Bad move on their part. I got one of the wireless ones one time and
returned it the next day. It was terrible. Physically it was the same, but
it was painfully less smooth and less responsive (and inconsistently so)
than every
YES, I'm not the only person alive using a trackball! Thumb-ball,
marble, or one of those giant pool-ball things?
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Trackman-Wheel-Optical-Silver/dp/B5NIMJ
(I don't know why the price there is so high,
though. They're only around $35-ish in stores.)
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YES, I'm not the only person alive using a trackball! Thumb-ball,
marble, or one of those giant pool-ball things?
you both are not alone. i'm also a trackball user for 11 years now. atm
i have a logitech trackman on my desk but owned one of those billiard
balls in the past, too.
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I must
On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 17:16:19 -0500, Nick Sabalausky a@a.a wrote:
But how is just the basic moving the pointer compared to other
touchpads?
It's similar. The only thing is, the click is actually a physical button
(the whole pad is a button). On a normal touchpad, you can click by
On 1/26/12 4:06 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
[…]And the
backspace key is labeled delete, and I still don't know how to do what a
normal delete key would do (delete the character that follows the
cursor) can someone tell me?
Fn + Backspace, on my Macbook Pro.
David
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wrote:
On 1/26/12 4:06 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
[…]And the
backspace key is labeled delete, and I still don't know how to do what a
normal delete key would do (delete the character that follows the
cursor) can
On 1/26/12 10:41 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 10:20:38 -0500, David Nadlinger s...@klickverbot.at
wrote:
On 1/26/12 4:06 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
[…]And the
backspace key is labeled delete, and I still don't know how to do what a
normal delete key would do
My only gripe about the trackpad is that it's impossible to drag with the right
button down. Beyond that, I actually like the control key setup on OSX, even if
it isn't as comprehensive as Windows. The command key has a long history in the
Unix world anyway. It's much better than the Windows
On 26.01.2012 00:36, Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/25/2012 2:27 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
How about these?
http://images.google.com/search?q=downloadtbm=ischtbs=isz:i
You're in a maze of twisty passages, all different.
The first ones look as though they're showing you where the secret
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If you can bring yourself to stomach the apple store atmosphere,
Heh :)
I encourage you to visit one and try it out. It's definitely different
than any other interface I've ever
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The command key has a long
history in the Unix world anyway. It's much better than
the Windows key that just does one thing, and something
I've never actually wanted to do.
Sent
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The command key has a long
history in the Unix world anyway. It's much better than
the Windows key that just does
On Jan 26, 2012, at 2:28 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
The Apple key is treated like the control key - You just have to remember
that when you'd normally go for Control, on the Mac you'd do Apple instead.
I don't remember what the hell the Mac's Control key is for. My Option key
actually
On 26/01/2012 15:41, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 10:20:38 -0500, David Nadlinger s...@klickverbot.at wrote:
On 1/26/12 4:06 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
[…]And the
backspace key is labeled delete, and I still don't know how to do what a
normal delete key would do
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On Jan 26, 2012, at 2:28 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
The Apple key is treated like the control key - You just have to remember
that when you'd normally go for Control, on the Mac
On 27/01/2012 01:36, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
snip
Heh, yea. That's something thing I always found funny: Apple always used to
prepackage one-button mice with their right-click-capable OSX machines
because one-button mice are simpler and easier. But I never understood how
control-click qualified
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Who decides what constitutes a normal delete key?
That's normal as in 95% of the PCs in the past 20 years. ;) (And macs
*are* personal computers, contrary to the ads.)
FWIW though, any mention of
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On 27/01/2012 01:36, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
snip
Heh, yea. That's something thing I always found funny: Apple always used
to
prepackage one-button mice with their right-click-capable OSX machines
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I've been reminded of the iMac G3 that I was made to use for some of my
time as a PhD student. Just the backspace
Heh, yea. That's something thing I always found funny:
Apple always used to
prepackage one-button mice with their
right-click-capable OSX machines
because one-button mice are simpler and easier. But I
never understood how
control-click qualified as simpler or easier than
right-click.
I do Win-R all the time. Win-D is nice, too, although I tend to forget
about
it.
Win-L is lock screen or return to welcome screen if you have that
enabled. That's a useful one.
Don't forget Win-E for my computer, Win-F for find and Win-Pause to open
system properties. Although since
I think if you design an interface where the input device has only one button
as opposed to multiple buttons, etc, one could argue that the result will be
easier to learn. I know I always had trouble explaining the use of the right
mouse button in Windows to my parents.
On Jan 26, 2012, at
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The command key has a long
history in the Unix world anyway. It's much better than
the Windows key that just does one
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 6:59 AM, Nick Sabalausky a@a.a wrote:
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Steven Schveighoffer schvei...@yahoo.com wrote in
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schvei...@yahoo.com wrote:
Me too :) We have a TV in the bedroom where the light was so bright, my
wife couldn't sleep. So I taped over it.
My new TV has a much dimmer light, but it's still there. You can
configure the light to
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I read that post. I don't think you used it enough. The swiping *is not*
the only interface to the photos. You can scroll rapidly through a list
of albums (using swiping, but it has
On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 03:43:15 -0500, Nick Sabalausky a@a.a wrote:
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I read that post. I don't think you used it enough. The swiping *is
not*
the only interface to the photos. You can
On 24/01/2012 00:13, Walter Bright wrote:
snip
Copyrights expire after 20 years. Renewable for another 20 years for a fee of
$1000/year
per registered copyright.
So your idea is to make it harder for people to keep their works copyrighted?
Under your plan, what will happen to copyrighted
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I just stayed in a hotel this past weekend, where the bedside lamp had
those same O and | symbols. When I wanted to turn the light on or off, do
you really think I spent a single
On 1/24/2012 6:18 PM, Stewart Gordon wrote:
On 24/01/2012 00:13, Walter Bright wrote:
snip
Copyrights expire after 20 years. Renewable for another 20 years for a fee of
$1000/year
per registered copyright.
So your idea is to make it harder for people to keep their works copyrighted?
After
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On 24/01/2012 00:13, Walter Bright wrote:
snip
Copyrights expire after 20 years. Renewable for another 20 years for a
fee of $1000/year
per registered copyright.
I can't answer for Walter. But, for
On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 21:46:05 -0500, Nick Sabalausky a@a.a wrote:
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You may hate to hear it, but the company that usually gets this right
is
Apple :) My palm phone had an LED that
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I must rave about the trackpad on the macbook pro. The interface is so
damned good, I hate going back to my linux laptop (which I must do for
work).
A good trackpad?!? That seems
On 1/25/12 2:31 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
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I must rave about the trackpad on the macbook pro. The interface is so
damned good, I hate going back to my linux laptop (which I must do for
On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 16:31:14 -0500, Nick Sabalausky a@a.a wrote:
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I must rave about the trackpad on the macbook pro. The interface is so
damned good, I hate going back to my linux laptop
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I must rave
On Monday, 23 January 2012 at 18:17:45 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/23/2012 6:42 AM, Don Clugston wrote:
And all those apps made with some Borland toolkit, where
'exit' is an icon of a
door, with an arrow in it.
Makes me feel like I'm playing Pictionary.
At a previous job, we got new desk
On 1/25/2012 2:27 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
How about these?
http://images.google.com/search?q=downloadtbm=ischtbs=isz:i
You're in a maze of twisty passages, all different.
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 3:31 PM, Nick Sabalausky a@a.a wrote:
Steven Schveighoffer schvei...@yahoo.com wrote in message
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I must rave about the trackpad on the macbook pro. The interface is so
damned good, I hate going back to my linux laptop
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IP can't be evil, it's the basic protocol of the internet ;)
seriously though, the term IP is highly misleading and doesn't
Am 24.01.2012, 13:26 Uhr, schrieb foobar f...@bar.com:
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IP can't be evil, it's the basic protocol of the internet ;)
On Tuesday, 24 January 2012 at 13:00:13 UTC, Marco Leise wrote:
Am 24.01.2012, 13:26 Uhr, schrieb foobar f...@bar.com:
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IP
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Ever since the industry helpfully stopped labeling switches with on
and
off my usual technique is to flip it back and forth until it goes on.
Is
it really progress
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There is this phenomena in the US where some people feel that they have
the right to be ignorant but they ought to realize that this isn't a core
human right and it slowly degrades society in
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Walter Bright newshou...@digitalmars.com wrote in message
Ever since the industry helpfully stopped labeling switches
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This has nothing to do with it. They
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a) you usually want something on or off. If it's already in the desired
state, you can usually tell without looking at the switch.
b) It's far more mentally taxing to read/understand
On 1/24/2012 3:30 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
I *HATE* those off lights. I've started to just tape over the fucking
things with black electrical tape.
Back in 1971 or so, a book came out that was the complete idiot's guide to
repairing a Volkswagon. The best advice in there was to someone that
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Walter Bright newshou...@digitalmars.com wrote in
On Tuesday, 24 January 2012 at 23:17:15 UTC, Nick Sabalausky
wrote:
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There is this phenomena in the US where some people feel that
they have the right to be ignorant but they ought to realize
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On 1/22/2012 10:30 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Hah! I just found the *perfect* article about this and other similar
matters:
Hilarious!
It reminds me of back in 1984 or 85 or so, a Mac
On 1/23/2012 2:22 AM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Although I disagree with phonetic being *necessarily* better than
ideographic. I do agree with the benefits of phonetic you describe -
essentially easier to learn. But the benefit of ideographic is that they
can be quicker and easier to use *after*
On Monday, 23 January 2012 at 10:54:15 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/23/2012 2:22 AM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Although I disagree with phonetic being *necessarily* better
than
ideographic. I do agree with the benefits of phonetic you
describe -
essentially easier to learn. But the benefit of
Walter Bright newshou...@digitalmars.com wrote in message
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On 1/23/2012 2:22 AM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Although I disagree with phonetic being *necessarily* better than
ideographic. I do agree with the benefits of phonetic you describe -
essentially
On 23/01/12 11:54, Walter Bright wrote:
Bring up Adobe's pdf viewer. It has a whole row of icons across the top.
I defy you to tell me what they do without hovering over each. Nobody
has ever figured out a picture that intuitively means save, send or
print. Some icons do have meaningful
On 1/23/2012 3:51 AM, foobar wrote:
A few additional points:
# Microsoft allegedly does a lot of usability research and they came up with the
upcoming Metro design which relies on text instead of icons. # Regarding the
English language - Icons are supposed to be universal so it saves money for
On 1/23/2012 3:59 AM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Back to Thunderbird email. The icon for Spell is ABC over a check mark.
That is not smaller or more intuitive than Spell.
No, not initially, but once you do know it, it's much easier to identify at
a glance.
I picked that deliberately because the
On 1/23/2012 6:42 AM, Don Clugston wrote:
And all those apps made with some Borland toolkit, where 'exit' is an icon of a
door, with an arrow in it.
Makes me feel like I'm playing Pictionary.
At a previous job, we got new desk telephones. They had 8 function keys, each
with an icon which was
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On 1/23/2012 3:51 AM, foobar wrote:
A few additional points:
# Microsoft allegedly does a lot of usability research and they came up
with the
upcoming Metro design which relies on text instead
Walter Bright newshou...@digitalmars.com wrote in message
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On 1/23/2012 3:59 AM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Back to Thunderbird email. The icon for Spell is ABC over a check
mark.
That is not smaller or more intuitive than Spell.
No, not initially, but
On Monday, January 23, 2012 17:37:59 Nick Sabalausky wrote:
IP is evil. That's what I love about China: Not much respect for IP. Thanks
to China's disregard for such things, I have an adaptor that lets me use the
fantastic DualShock2 on Xbox1, GC or PC. That would *never* happen in the
US or
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On Monday, January 23, 2012 17:37:59 Nick Sabalausky wrote:
IP is evil. That's what I love about China: Not much respect for IP.
Thanks
to China's disregard for such things,
On 1/23/2012 2:49 PM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
The basic concept isn't necessarily bad, but how it's been applied has gone
way too far.
My position is simple:
Copyrights expire after 20 years. Renewable for another 20 years for a fee of
$1000/year per registered copyright.
No software
Walter Bright newshou...@digitalmars.com wrote in message
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On 1/23/2012 2:49 PM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
The basic concept isn't necessarily bad, but how it's been applied has
gone
way too far.
My position is simple:
Copyrights expire after 20
On Monday, 23 January 2012 at 18:11:47 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/23/2012 3:51 AM, foobar wrote:
A few additional points:
# Microsoft allegedly does a lot of usability research and
they came up with the
upcoming Metro design which relies on text instead of icons. #
Regarding the
English
On Monday, 23 January 2012 at 22:50:15 UTC, Jonathan M Davis
wrote:
On Monday, January 23, 2012 17:37:59 Nick Sabalausky wrote:
IP is evil. That's what I love about China: Not much respect
for IP. Thanks
to China's disregard for such things, I have an adaptor that
lets me use the
fantastic
foobar f...@bar.com wrote in message
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IP can't be evil, it's the basic protocol of the internet ;)
seriously though, the term IP is highly misleading and doesn't have a hold
in (legal) reality. It's a collection of unrelated laws
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But you know, the really bizarre thing is, *all* MS has to do to win over
all the XP people (or at least the majority of them) is two simple things:
1. *Allow* people to use the XP UI (and no, I don't mean Luna).
On 1/22/2012 10:30 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Hah! I just found the *perfect* article about this and other similar
matters:
Hilarious!
It reminds me of back in 1984 or 85 or so, a Mac evangelist came by the company
I worked for then (Data I/O) to evangelize the Mac. None of us in the group
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