Re: Can we please kill the hyphenator already?

2013-10-04 Thread Andrej Mitrovic
On 10/2/13, Andrej Mitrovic andrej.mitrov...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/1/13, Andrei Alexandrescu seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org wrote: Fixed - I just pushed the fixed druntime docs. It's also apparently loading hyphenator here: http://dlang.org/changelog.html And in http://dlang.org/ddoc.html

Re: Can we please kill the hyphenator already?

2013-10-04 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu
On 10/4/13 6:38 AM, Andrej Mitrovic wrote: On 10/2/13, Andrej Mitrovic andrej.mitrov...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/1/13, Andrei Alexandrescu seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org wrote: Fixed - I just pushed the fixed druntime docs. It's also apparently loading hyphenator here:

Re: Can we please kill the hyphenator already?

2013-10-04 Thread Andrej Mitrovic
On 10/4/13, Andrei Alexandrescu seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org wrote: Removed the js files from the site, uploaded fresh dox. Thanks. It's a shame you don't work for Google so you can give them a slap on the wrist for not implementing this feature in the browser. :)

Re: Can we please kill the hyphenator already?

2013-10-03 Thread Kagamin
On Tuesday, 1 October 2013 at 21:30:59 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Hyphenation rox. When reading hyphenated text one has to first read the start of the word on the right side of the text then go to the left side to find the end of the word. That doesn't sound good.

Re: Can we please kill the hyphenator already?

2013-10-03 Thread Kagamin
The printed text can save a fraction of paper with hyphenation, but digital text already saves 100% of paper. That can be solved by adding a stylesheet for print media (it has to be different anyway): http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-CSS2-20080411/media.html

Re: Can we please kill the hyphenator already?

2013-10-02 Thread Wyatt
On Tuesday, 1 October 2013 at 20:52:22 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote: Heh, yea. But OTOH, it can be a good way for community members to easily point out any errors/omissions/gotchas in the docs. I wish I were as optimistic, but unless the comment system ends up sticking its stuff in some

Re: Can we please kill the hyphenator already?

2013-10-02 Thread Dicebot
Actually, now that this topic has risen up again, I tend to agree with it. Such comment system is very difficult to control to provide good user experience. Its anarchic nature may fit well chaotic design of PHP (lack of one to be precise :P) but D really requires more systematic explanations.

Re: Can we please kill the hyphenator already?

2013-10-02 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 07:30:07PM +0200, Dicebot wrote: Actually, now that this topic has risen up again, I tend to agree with it. Such comment system is very difficult to control to provide good user experience. Its anarchic nature may fit well chaotic design of PHP (lack of one to be

Re: Can we please kill the hyphenator already?

2013-10-02 Thread Tourist
On Wednesday, 2 October 2013 at 17:30:08 UTC, Dicebot wrote: Actually, now that this topic has risen up again, I tend to agree with it. Such comment system is very difficult to control to provide good user experience. Its anarchic nature may fit well chaotic design of PHP (lack of one to be

Re: Can we please kill the hyphenator already?

2013-10-02 Thread Wyatt
On Wednesday, 2 October 2013 at 17:48:13 UTC, Tourist wrote: I don't agree - I often find comments in the PHP documentation helpful, both for clarifying things and for useful snippets. We have D.learn for clarification. Comments clarifying the docs are a bug. You could say snippets go in

Re: Can we please kill the hyphenator already?

2013-10-02 Thread Tourist
On Wednesday, 2 October 2013 at 18:21:45 UTC, Wyatt wrote: You could say snippets go in comments, but in the first place people WILL misuse and abuse them for other things. What are you going to do? Delete the questions? Tell them to go to D.learn? Heaven forbid you ANSWER it! That just

Re: Can we please kill the hyphenator already?

2013-10-01 Thread Jakob Ovrum
On Monday, 30 September 2013 at 03:24:53 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote: I don't think so. IIRC, it's just Andrei and Walter who have permissions to do that, and it only normally happens when there's a release. Occasionally Andrei will update it after certain pulls, but since he didn't merge this

Re: Can we please kill the hyphenator already?

2013-10-01 Thread w0rp
+1 for hyphenator death. I either block it or hit Stop script on Firefox. Kill it with fire! PHP-style documentation in general I look forward to, but I won't push for that. I know Andrei is a busy guy. PHP, the bad language with good documentation.

Re: Can we please kill the hyphenator already?

2013-10-01 Thread Craig Dillabaugh
On Tuesday, 1 October 2013 at 13:11:23 UTC, Wyatt wrote: On Tuesday, 1 October 2013 at 11:58:35 UTC, w0rp wrote: PHP-style documentation in general I look forward to, but I won't push for that. I know Andrei is a busy guy. PHP, the bad language with good documentation. PHP? The language

Re: Can we please kill the hyphenator already?

2013-10-01 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu
On 9/30/13 11:59 PM, Jakob Ovrum wrote: On Monday, 30 September 2013 at 03:24:53 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote: I don't think so. IIRC, it's just Andrei and Walter who have permissions to do that, and it only normally happens when there's a release. Occasionally Andrei will update it after

Re: Can we please kill the hyphenator already?

2013-10-01 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu
On 9/29/13 2:59 PM, Andrej Mitrovic wrote: We're literally having new people coming in to IRC every day saying they can't read the D documentation because of hyphenator completely blocking the website (before the browser forces it to stop loading). If Andrei still wants it in, fine, but re-add

Re: Can we please kill the hyphenator already?

2013-10-01 Thread Nick Sabalausky
On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 15:11:22 +0200 Wyatt wyatt@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, 1 October 2013 at 11:58:35 UTC, w0rp wrote: PHP-style documentation in general I look forward to, but I won't push for that. I know Andrei is a busy guy. PHP, the bad language with good documentation.

Re: Can we please kill the hyphenator already?

2013-10-01 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu
On 10/1/13 4:58 AM, w0rp wrote: +1 for hyphenator death. I either block it or hit Stop script on Firefox. Kill it with fire! Hyphenation rox. PHP-style documentation in general I look forward to, but I won't push for that. I know Andrei is a busy guy. Let's try to aim for an update with

Re: Can we please kill the hyphenator already?

2013-10-01 Thread Andrej Mitrovic
On 10/1/13, Andrei Alexandrescu seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org wrote: On 10/1/13 4:58 AM, w0rp wrote: +1 for hyphenator death. I either block it or hit Stop script on Firefox. Kill it with fire! Hyphenation rox. Yeah, but hyphenator.js sox! :p I still see hyphenation in action on the

Re: Can we please kill the hyphenator already?

2013-10-01 Thread Brad Anderson
On Tuesday, 1 October 2013 at 22:12:00 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic wrote: On 10/1/13, Andrei Alexandrescu seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org wrote: On 10/1/13 4:58 AM, w0rp wrote: +1 for hyphenator death. I either block it or hit Stop script on Firefox. Kill it with fire! Hyphenation rox. Yeah, but

Re: Can we please kill the hyphenator already?

2013-10-01 Thread Andrej Mitrovic
On 10/2/13, Brad Anderson e...@gnuk.net wrote: Yes, CSS3 hyphens is used now. It doesn't work in Chrome or Opera though. Why not?

Re: Can we please kill the hyphenator already?

2013-10-01 Thread Martin Nowak
On 10/02/2013 12:26 AM, Andrej Mitrovic wrote: Why not? https://www.google.com/search?q=css3+hyphens+chrome http://caniuse.com/css-hyphens

Re: Can we please kill the hyphenator already?

2013-10-01 Thread Martin Nowak
On 10/01/2013 11:30 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Hyphenation rox. That's why I wrote the hyphenation lib, if someone figures out how to integrate that in the html page generation we can have hyphenation again. The sheer amount of complaints about the slow website should settle any

Re: Can we please kill the hyphenator already?

2013-10-01 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu
On 10/1/13 4:11 PM, Martin Nowak wrote: On 10/01/2013 11:30 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Hyphenation rox. That's why I wrote the hyphenation lib, if someone figures out how to integrate that in the html page generation we can have hyphenation again. The sheer amount of complaints about the

Re: Can we please kill the hyphenator already?

2013-10-01 Thread Andrej Mitrovic
On 10/1/13, Andrei Alexandrescu seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org wrote: Fixed - I just pushed the fixed druntime docs. It's also apparently loading hyphenator here: http://dlang.org/changelog.html Can't we remove it globally? :/

Re: Can we please kill the hyphenator already?

2013-10-01 Thread Brad Anderson
On Wednesday, 2 October 2013 at 00:58:27 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic wrote: On 10/1/13, Andrei Alexandrescu seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org wrote: Fixed - I just pushed the fixed druntime docs. It's also apparently loading hyphenator here: http://dlang.org/changelog.html Can't we remove it globally?

Re: Can we please kill the hyphenator already?

2013-09-30 Thread Martin Nowak
On 09/30/2013 12:29 AM, Dicebot wrote: On Sunday, 29 September 2013 at 22:25:03 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote: Wait, didn't somebody already merge the pull to kill off the hyphenator? Did it get re-introduced unilaterally without discussion? T Did web-site actually get updated since that pull?

Can we please kill the hyphenator already?

2013-09-29 Thread Andrej Mitrovic
We're literally having new people coming in to IRC every day saying they can't read the D documentation because of hyphenator completely blocking the website (before the browser forces it to stop loading). If Andrei still wants it in, fine, but re-add it **later** once it's fixed or implemented

Re: Can we please kill the hyphenator already?

2013-09-29 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 11:59:48PM +0200, Andrej Mitrovic wrote: We're literally having new people coming in to IRC every day saying they can't read the D documentation because of hyphenator completely blocking the website (before the browser forces it to stop loading). If Andrei still wants

Re: Can we please kill the hyphenator already?

2013-09-29 Thread Dicebot
On Sunday, 29 September 2013 at 22:25:03 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote: Wait, didn't somebody already merge the pull to kill off the hyphenator? Did it get re-introduced unilaterally without discussion? T Did web-site actually get updated since that pull?

Re: Can we please kill the hyphenator already?

2013-09-29 Thread Kiith-Sa
On Sunday, 29 September 2013 at 22:00:02 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic wrote: We're literally having new people coming in to IRC every day saying they can't read the D documentation because of hyphenator completely blocking the website (before the browser forces it to stop loading). If Andrei still

Re: Can we please kill the hyphenator already?

2013-09-29 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 12:29:20AM +0200, Dicebot wrote: On Sunday, 29 September 2013 at 22:25:03 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote: Wait, didn't somebody already merge the pull to kill off the hyphenator? Did it get re-introduced unilaterally without discussion? T Did web-site actually get updated

Re: Can we please kill the hyphenator already?

2013-09-29 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu
On 9/29/13 3:23 PM, H. S. Teoh wrote: On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 11:59:48PM +0200, Andrej Mitrovic wrote: We're literally having new people coming in to IRC every day saying they can't read the D documentation because of hyphenator completely blocking the website (before the browser forces it to

Re: Can we please kill the hyphenator already?

2013-09-29 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu
On 9/29/13 4:02 PM, H. S. Teoh wrote: On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 12:29:20AM +0200, Dicebot wrote: On Sunday, 29 September 2013 at 22:25:03 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote: Wait, didn't somebody already merge the pull to kill off the hyphenator? Did it get re-introduced unilaterally without discussion? T

Re: Can we please kill the hyphenator already?

2013-09-29 Thread Jonathan M Davis
On Monday, September 30, 2013 00:29:20 Dicebot wrote: On Sunday, 29 September 2013 at 22:25:03 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote: Wait, didn't somebody already merge the pull to kill off the hyphenator? Yes, I merged it. Did web-site actually get updated since that pull? I don't think so. IIRC, it's