I suggest to just offer both zip and 7zip files.
Sure it can be done, but I doubt zip helps availability a lot.
Kagamin:
> Copy-deployment is an advanced format, and I think it's pretty ok
> for it to be 7z.
I suggest to just offer both zip and 7zip files.
Bye,
bearophile
But not without installing 3rd party software. Windows can
handle zip files out of the box. It can't handle the others.
rar would have exactly the same problem as 7z files (though
from what I've see rar files are much more commonly used). We
_could_ use a file format other than zip, but then we
"Jacob Carlborg" wrote in message
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> On 2011-12-23 22:38, Somedude wrote:
>> Le 23/12/2011 18:11, Nick Sabalausky a écrit :
>>>
>>> I'm actually inching closer to being a linux guy. Being able to easily
>>> script just about everything is pretty nice, and af
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
> On 2011-12-23 22:38, Somedude wrote:
>>
>> Le 23/12/2011 18:11, Nick Sabalausky a écrit :
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm actually inching closer to being a linux guy. Being able to easily
>>> script just about everything is pretty nice, and after Vista, Wi
On 2011-12-23 22:38, Somedude wrote:
Le 23/12/2011 18:11, Nick Sabalausky a écrit :
I'm actually inching closer to being a linux guy. Being able to easily
script just about everything is pretty nice, and after Vista, Win7, and what
I've seen of Win8, I've been loosing the loyalty I've had in wi
On 22.12.2011 17:45, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
"Jonathan M Davis" wrote in message
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On Thursday, December 22, 2011 06:25:42 a wrote:
Why are you ignoring the statement about 7z having the same
accessibility
level as rar? Rar files
On Saturday, December 24, 2011 01:24:38 Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> Yea, VirtualBox is awesome. I've been making a lot of use of it. I do have a
> physical linux box too though, it's just not my primary system.
VirtualBox is pretty much the only way that I use Windows these days, and even
that isn't
"Somedude" wrote in message
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> Le 23/12/2011 18:11, Nick Sabalausky a écrit :
>>
>> I'm actually inching closer to being a linux guy. Being able to easily
>> script just about everything is pretty nice, and after Vista, Win7, and
>> what
>> I've seen of Win
On Friday, 23 December 2011 at 17:24:10 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
On Friday, 23 December 2011 at 17:13:25 UTC, Nick Sabalausky
wrote:
Interestingly, in my experience, 7z seems to even beat
.tar.bz2 by a non-trivial amount.
Slackware Linux recently changed from the old .tar.gz for it's
distribu
Le 23/12/2011 18:11, Nick Sabalausky a écrit :
>
> I'm actually inching closer to being a linux guy. Being able to easily
> script just about everything is pretty nice, and after Vista, Win7, and what
> I've seen of Win8, I've been loosing the loyalty I've had in windows since
> 3.1. (YMMV, of
Le 23/12/2011 00:35, Alvaro a écrit :
> I use 7zip everyday and where I work it has become the most common
> archive format (we use Windows and Linux), 7zip is installed by the IT
> people as part of the basic software just as an antivirus and an office
> suite.
Same here. 7zip is becoming ubiqui
On Friday, December 23, 2011 18:24:09 Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
> On Friday, 23 December 2011 at 17:13:25 UTC, Nick Sabalausky
>
> wrote:
> > Interestingly, in my experience, 7z seems to even beat .tar.bz2
> > by a non-trivial amount.
>
> Slackware Linux recently changed from the old .tar.gz for it's
On 12/23/11 10:49 AM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
"Andrei Alexandrescu" wrote in message
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The most entertaining part is that this comes bundled with the firm
conviction (or even unstated assumption) that everybody should hold, or
already holds, the same belie
"Walter Bright" wrote in message
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>
> I used to use a wave editor. My disk crashed, and I reformatted and
> reinstalled Windows. I installed the wave editor, but had lost the
> password to unlock it. The company that made it had gone bust.
>
Yup, that's
"Mirko Pilger" wrote in message
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>> The ftp is not the fastest one and 7z reduces the size by 40%.
>
> *+1*
>
> on desktop i'm mostly a windows guy and since the days of windows 95 my
> first step after a clean system setup has been always to install a 3rd
On Friday, 23 December 2011 at 17:13:25 UTC, Nick Sabalausky
wrote:
Interestingly, in my experience, 7z seems to even beat .tar.bz2
by a non-trivial amount.
Slackware Linux recently changed from the old .tar.gz for it's
distribution to .tar.xz - .xz uses the same algorithm as 7zip.
I never car
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> On 2011-12-23 00:32, Sean Kelly wrote:
>> On Dec 22, 2011, at 9:35 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
>>
>>> On 2011-12-22 18:13, Sean Kelly wrote:
I'd like to see a separate package per platform plus a source release.
"Vladimir Panteleev" wrote in message
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>
> By this follows that the major OSes had their own established software
> packaging methods - installers and archives of various sorts on Windows,
> .dmg / .pkg / .sit for OS X, and tarballs f
"Stewart Gordon" wrote in message
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> On 22/12/2011 17:27, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
>
>> IIRC it's possible to just open the ZIP archive as a regular folder with
>> the built-in
>> support.
>
> It's possible to open the zip so that it looks superficially like
"Vladimir Panteleev" wrote in message
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> On Friday, 23 December 2011 at 01:18:22 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>> The next question is whether we should offer it same placement as the
>> .zip file or the native installer, and how to
"Andrei Alexandrescu" wrote in message
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>
>The most entertaining part is that this comes bundled with the firm
>conviction (or even unstated assumption) that everybody should hold, or
>already holds, the same belief as yours.
>
Seriously? I don't mean th
On 2011-12-23 03:13, a wrote:
Jacob Carlborg Wrote:
On 2011-12-22 17:44, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 12/22/11 12:53 AM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
"Walter Bright" wrote in message
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On 12/21/2011 1:31 AM, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
I thought the installers
On 12/23/11 3:49 AM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
On Friday, 23 December 2011 at 08:56:09 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
What am I doing wrong?
The script suffered some bitrot. The version I posted in IRC works for
me on both Ruby 1.8 and 1.9:
http://dump.thecybershadow.net/7f0b3e4b56df6bf78382
Somedude Wrote:
> Le 20/12/2011 20:57, Trass3r a écrit :
> > The ftp is not the fastest one and 7z reduces the size by 40%.
>
> Wow, this thread sounds to me like a lot of noise for nothing.
>
> Meanwhile, Andrew Wiley received no response for his thread "Some Issues
> with Synchronized".
It's
On Friday, 23 December 2011 at 08:56:09 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
What am I doing wrong?
The script suffered some bitrot. The version I posted in IRC
works for me on both Ruby 1.8 and 1.9:
http://dump.thecybershadow.net/7f0b3e4b56df6bf78382f6161115f7e1/github_upload.rb
Prodded GitHub
On 12/23/11 2:48 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 12/21/11 5:52 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
On Wednesday, 21 December 2011 at 23:48:57 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
On 12/21/11 5:45 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
On Wednesday, 21 December 2011 at 23:38:22 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
Hmm, ca
Le 20/12/2011 20:57, Trass3r a écrit :
> The ftp is not the fastest one and 7z reduces the size by 40%.
Wow, this thread sounds to me like a lot of noise for nothing.
Meanwhile, Andrew Wiley received no response for his thread "Some Issues
with Synchronized".
On 12/21/11 5:52 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
On Wednesday, 21 December 2011 at 23:48:57 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 12/21/11 5:45 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
On Wednesday, 21 December 2011 at 23:38:22 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
Hmm, can you explain more about hosting the zip files on
On 12/22/2011 9:53 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
On Friday, 23 December 2011 at 05:18:30 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
Not that easy, because will you really have the right platform 30 years from
now?
Enthusiasts have created portable open-source software emulators for many old
platforms. Hell, y
On Friday, 23 December 2011 at 05:18:30 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
Not that easy, because will you really have the right platform
30 years from now?
Enthusiasts have created portable open-source software emulators
for many old platforms. Hell, you can boot Linux[1] (and UNIX V6
on a PDP-11, fo
On 12/22/2011 5:31 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
On Friday, 23 December 2011 at 01:18:22 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
The next question is whether we should offer it same placement as the .zip
file or the native installer, and how to design the downloads page to avoid it
being overcrowded.
On 12/22/2011 7:50 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
On Friday, 23 December 2011 at 03:46:14 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 12/22/2011 7:30 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
RAR (and some others) supports "recovery records" and "recovery volumes"
(redundant data). The cool thing about them is that with a
On Friday, 23 December 2011 at 03:46:14 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 12/22/2011 7:30 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
RAR (and some others) supports "recovery records" and
"recovery volumes"
(redundant data). The cool thing about them is that with a
recovery record of
10%, ANY 10% of the archive's
On 12/22/2011 7:30 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
RAR (and some others) supports "recovery records" and "recovery volumes"
(redundant data). The cool thing about them is that with a recovery record of
10%, ANY 10% of the archive's blocks may be lost and the entire archive can be
recovered. It was
On Friday, 23 December 2011 at 03:24:27 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 12/22/2011 11:27 AM, Mirko Pilger wrote:
i use 7z myself for backups for a couple of years now
I quit using compression for backups. The problem was that if
the backup media lost even one bit, you lose the entirety of
the c
On 12/22/2011 11:27 AM, Mirko Pilger wrote:
i use 7z myself for backups for a couple of years now
I quit using compression for backups. The problem was that if the backup media
lost even one bit, you lose the entirety of the compressed file(s). Yes, this
happened.
It's also a problem becaus
On 22/12/2011 17:27, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
IIRC it's possible to just open the ZIP archive as a regular folder with the
built-in
support.
It's possible to open the zip so that it looks superficially like a regular folder. And
in doing so you can browse the files in the zip, copy them to som
On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 18:00:59 -0800, a wrote:
for storing your larger files? It's plenty fast and quite cheap, we use
it
at work because for large files versus delivery costs, it beats
everything
else on the planet.
Are you serious? Data transfer prices at Amazon are *very* high.
Accordi
Jacob Carlborg Wrote:
> On 2011-12-22 17:44, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> > On 12/22/11 12:53 AM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> >> "Walter Bright" wrote in message
> >> news:jcsbja$1pu7$1...@digitalmars.com...
> >>> On 12/21/2011 1:31 AM, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
> I thought the installers were for
On 22/12/2011 17:13, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
On Thursday, 22 December 2011 at 17:09:23 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Ok then, if you're claiming that I'm wrong and a programmer *does* have a
legitimate
excuse for not having a 7z-capable program, perhaps you could state what that
legitimate
excuse i
> for storing your larger files? It's plenty fast and quite cheap, we use it
> at work because for large files versus delivery costs, it beats everything
> else on the planet.
Are you serious? Data transfer prices at Amazon are *very* high. According to
http://aws.amazon.com/s3/pricing/ the p
On Friday, 23 December 2011 at 01:18:22 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
The next question is whether we should offer it same placement
as the .zip file or the native installer, and how to design the
downloads page to avoid it being overcrowded.
That's hardly a problem:
http://thecybershadow.n
On 12/22/11 6:43 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
On Thursday, 22 December 2011 at 17:35:09 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
Ok then, if you're claiming that I'm wrong and a programmer *does*
have a
legitimate excuse for not having a 7z-capable program, perhaps you could
state what that legitimate e
On Thursday, 22 December 2011 at 17:35:09 UTC, Andrei
Alexandrescu wrote:
Ok then, if you're claiming that I'm wrong and a programmer
*does* have a
legitimate excuse for not having a 7z-capable program, perhaps
you could
state what that legitimate excuse is instead of merely being
contradictory
On 2011-12-23 00:32, Sean Kelly wrote:
On Dec 22, 2011, at 9:35 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2011-12-22 18:13, Sean Kelly wrote:
I'd like to see a separate package per platform plus a source release. DMD
doesn't even run out of the box on all flavors of Linux, and we can't expect
people to p
El 22/12/2011 8:03, Jonathan M Davis escribió:
On Thursday, December 22, 2011 01:53:00 Nick Sabalausky wrote:
If you're a programmer, or even just a power user, you have absolutely no
excuse not to *already* have a 7z-capable program installed.
Christ, even the "least-common-denominator" piracy
On Dec 22, 2011, at 3:32 PM, Sean Kelly wrote:
> On Dec 22, 2011, at 9:35 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
>
>> On 2011-12-22 18:13, Sean Kelly wrote:
>>> I'd like to see a separate package per platform plus a source release. DMD
>>> doesn't even run out of the box on all flavors of Linux, and we can't
On Dec 22, 2011, at 9:35 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
> On 2011-12-22 18:13, Sean Kelly wrote:
>> I'd like to see a separate package per platform plus a source release. DMD
>> doesn't even run out of the box on all flavors of Linux, and we can't expect
>> people to pull the git repo.
>
> The sourc
On 22.12.2011 20:27, Mirko Pilger wrote:
The ftp is not the fastest one and 7z reduces the size by 40%.
*+1*
on desktop i'm mostly a windows guy and since the days of windows 95 my
first step after a clean system setup has been always to install a 3rd
party file archiver utility. i remember i
The ftp is not the fastest one and 7z reduces the size by 40%.
*+1*
on desktop i'm mostly a windows guy and since the days of windows 95 my
first step after a clean system setup has been always to install a 3rd
party file archiver utility. i remember it was winzip in the beginning,
shortly a
On 12/22/11 11:07 AM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
"Andrei Alexandrescu" wrote in message
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On 12/22/11 10:45 AM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
1. "If you're a programmer, or even just a power user, you have
absolutely no excuse not to *already* have a 7z-capable prog
On 2011-12-22 18:13, Sean Kelly wrote:
I'd like to see a separate package per platform plus a source release. DMD
doesn't even run out of the box on all flavors of Linux, and we can't expect
people to pull the git repo.
The sources are already included.
--
/Jacob Carlborg
On 2011-12-22 17:44, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 12/22/11 12:53 AM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
"Walter Bright" wrote in message
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On 12/21/2011 1:31 AM, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
I thought the installers were for newbies. 7z is supported by 7zip,
winrar, and e
On 2011-12-22 17:45, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Once again:
1. "If you're a programmer, or even just a power user, you have absolutely
no
excuse not to *already* have a 7z-capable program [EDIT: such as WinRAR, for
instance] installed."
2. "What the hell programmer is limited to whatever archive s
On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 19:07:30 +0200, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Ok then, if you're claiming that I'm wrong and a programmer *does* have a
legitimate excuse for not having a 7z-capable program, perhaps you could
state what that legitimate excuse is instead of merely being
contradictory?
How about
On Thursday, 22 December 2011 at 17:09:23 UTC, Nick Sabalausky
wrote:
Ok then, if you're claiming that I'm wrong and a programmer
*does* have a legitimate excuse for not having a 7z-capable
program, perhaps you could state what that legitimate excuse is
instead of merely being contradictory?
I'd like to see a separate package per platform plus a source release. DMD
doesn't even run out of the box on all flavors of Linux, and we can't expect
people to pull the git repo.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 22, 2011, at 8:44 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
> On 12/22/11 12:53 AM, Nick Sabal
Nick Sabalausky Wrote:
> "Jonathan M Davis" wrote in message
> news:mailman.1834.1324571496.24802.digitalmar...@puremagic.com...
> > On Thursday, December 22, 2011 06:25:42 a wrote:
> >> Why are you ignoring the statement about 7z having the same
> >> accessibility
> >> level as rar? Rar files
"Andrei Alexandrescu" wrote in message
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> On 12/22/11 10:45 AM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
>> 1. "If you're a programmer, or even just a power user, you have
>> absolutely no excuse not to *already* have a 7z-capable program
>> [EDIT: such as WinRAR, for instan
"Nick Sabalausky" wrote in message
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> "Nick Sabalausky" wrote in message
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>> "Jonathan M Davis" wrote in message
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>>> On Thursday, December 22,
"Nick Sabalausky" wrote in message
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> "Jonathan M Davis" wrote in message
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>> On Thursday, December 22, 2011 06:25:42 a wrote:
>>> Why are you ignoring the statement about 7z having the s
On 12/22/11 10:45 AM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
1. "If you're a programmer, or even just a power user, you have
absolutely no excuse not to *already* have a 7z-capable program
[EDIT: such as WinRAR, for instance] installed."
Wrong.
Andrei
On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 08:44:08 -0800, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
On 12/22/11 12:53 AM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
"Walter Bright" wrote in message
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On 12/21/2011 1:31 AM, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
I thought the installers were for newbies. 7z is supported by
On Thursday, December 22, 2011 10:44:08 Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> Let's focus on reducing the size of the zip by only including what's
> used and by using faster servers.
Agreed.
- Jonathan M Davis
"Jonathan M Davis" wrote in message
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> On Thursday, December 22, 2011 06:25:42 a wrote:
>> Why are you ignoring the statement about 7z having the same
>> accessibility
>> level as rar? Rar files are not rare and users who can open
On 12/22/11 12:53 AM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
"Walter Bright" wrote in message
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On 12/21/2011 1:31 AM, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
I thought the installers were for newbies. 7z is supported by 7zip,
winrar, and even winzip.
I really don't see how someone can
On Thursday, December 22, 2011 06:25:42 a wrote:
> Why are you ignoring the statement about 7z having the same accessibility
> level as rar? Rar files are not rare and users who can open rar files (on
> Windows usually with WinRAR or 7zip) can also open 7z files.
But not without installing 3rd pa
Jonathan M Davis Wrote:
> On Thursday, December 22, 2011 01:53:00 Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> > If you're a programmer, or even just a power user, you have absolutely no
> > excuse not to *already* have a 7z-capable program installed.
> >
> > Christ, even the "least-common-denominator" piracy scene
If you're trying to have an archival format that pretty much
any computer can open out of the box, zip is the only option.
If you're restricting yourself to Linux computers specifically,
there are definitely more options, but Windows can only handle
zip files. For all other archival formats, th
On 2011-12-22 08:21, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
"Jacob Carlborg" wrote in message
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On 2011-12-20 20:57, Trass3r wrote:
The ftp is not the fastest one and 7z reduces the size by 40%.
Switching away from zip could break several installation scripts/tools, it
Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> "Jacob Carlborg" wrote in message
> news:jcsk6i$27tq$2...@digitalmars.com...
>> On 2011-12-20 20:57, Trass3r wrote:
>>> The ftp is not the fastest one and 7z reduces the size by 40%.
>>
>> Switching away from zip could break several installation scripts/tools,
>> it will
On Thursday, December 22, 2011 00:08:59 Walter Bright wrote:
> > One of those things that probably requires that streams be implemented.
>
> No. Ranges. RANGES!!!
Yes, they'll be ranges, but we need the buffered stream support in order to
properly implement those ranges.
- Jonathan M Davis
On 12/21/2011 11:37 PM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Thursday, December 22, 2011 02:21:14 Nick Sabalausky wrote:
The raises a side-point though: It would be great to have 7z support in
Phobos. Or at least in Deimos just for starters.
Yes. And tar, etc.
One of those things that probably require
On Thursday, December 22, 2011 02:21:14 Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> "Jacob Carlborg" wrote in message
> news:jcsk6i$27tq$2...@digitalmars.com...
>
> > On 2011-12-20 20:57, Trass3r wrote:
> >> The ftp is not the fastest one and 7z reduces the size by 40%.
> >
> > Switching away from zip could break
"Jacob Carlborg" wrote in message
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> On 2011-12-20 20:57, Trass3r wrote:
>> The ftp is not the fastest one and 7z reduces the size by 40%.
>
> Switching away from zip could break several installation scripts/tools, it
> will break DVM.
>
Yea, so 7z would
"Andrej Mitrovic" wrote in message
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> Everybody is latched on to that because Walter can't get a move on.
> Didn't we say a million times already to not pack everything into a
> giant zip file? Also, DMD is not distributable
+...wit
"Andrei Alexandrescu" wrote in message
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> On 12/21/11 4:53 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
>> On 12/21/2011 12:58 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
>>> Now, to answer your question: according to their website, WinZip
>>> starting with
>>> version 12 supports creating
On Thursday, December 22, 2011 01:53:00 Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> If you're a programmer, or even just a power user, you have absolutely no
> excuse not to *already* have a 7z-capable program installed.
>
> Christ, even the "least-common-denominator" piracy scene has standardized on
> rar which has
"Walter Bright" wrote in message
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> On 12/21/2011 1:31 AM, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
>> I thought the installers were for newbies. 7z is supported by 7zip,
>> winrar, and even winzip.
>>
>> I really don't see how someone can be smart enough to use a systems
>>
On 12/21/2011 3:45 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
On Wednesday, 21 December 2011 at 23:38:22 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 12/21/2011 5:22 AM, Robert Clipsham wrote:
There's no excuse for that, there are quite literally hundreds of sites that
will host packages for you, including github.
Hmm, c
On Wednesday, 21 December 2011 at 23:48:57 UTC, Andrei
Alexandrescu wrote:
On 12/21/11 5:45 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
On Wednesday, 21 December 2011 at 23:38:22 UTC, Walter Bright
wrote:
Hmm, can you explain more about hosting the zip files on
github?
1) Go to a GitHub project
2) Open the
On Wednesday, 21 December 2011 at 23:46:12 UTC, Andrei
Alexandrescu wrote:
On 12/21/11 5:37 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
On Wednesday, 21 December 2011 at 23:34:39 UTC, Andrei
Alexandrescu wrote:
I just downloaded and re-compressed everything with 7zip, the
reduction was not spectacular at all
On 12/21/11 5:45 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
On Wednesday, 21 December 2011 at 23:38:22 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 12/21/2011 5:22 AM, Robert Clipsham wrote:
There's no excuse for that, there are quite literally hundreds of
sites that
will host packages for you, including github.
Hmm, can
On 12/21/11 5:37 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
On Wednesday, 21 December 2011 at 23:34:39 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
I just downloaded and re-compressed everything with 7zip, the
reduction was not spectacular at all - from 21.8MB to 17.3MB.
Bwuh? I'm seeing a reduction to 11.6MB (10.5 wit
On Wednesday, 21 December 2011 at 23:38:22 UTC, Walter Bright
wrote:
On 12/21/2011 5:22 AM, Robert Clipsham wrote:
There's no excuse for that, there are quite literally hundreds
of sites that
will host packages for you, including github.
Hmm, can you explain more about hosting the zip files o
On Wednesday, 21 December 2011 at 23:34:39 UTC, Andrei
Alexandrescu wrote:
I just downloaded and re-compressed everything with 7zip, the
reduction was not spectacular at all - from 21.8MB to 17.3MB.
Bwuh? I'm seeing a reduction to 11.6MB (10.5 with ultra
compression).
On 12/21/2011 5:22 AM, Robert Clipsham wrote:
There's no excuse for that, there are quite literally hundreds of sites that
will host packages for you, including github.
Hmm, can you explain more about hosting the zip files on github?
On 12/21/11 4:53 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
On 12/21/2011 12:58 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
Now, to answer your question: according to their website, WinZip
starting with
version 12 supports creating ZIP archives with LZMA compression - but, of
course, to unpack them you need an archiving tool t
On Wednesday, 21 December 2011 at 22:53:06 UTC, Walter Bright
wrote:
I understand that issue. The idea is to support it, at least
for unzipping, in all new versions, and gradually that support
will filter out into the community.
All new versions of what? There is no "standard" implementation,
On 12/21/2011 12:58 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
Now, to answer your question: according to their website, WinZip starting with
version 12 supports creating ZIP archives with LZMA compression - but, of
course, to unpack them you need an archiving tool that can understand such ZIP
files. It's lik
On Wednesday, 21 December 2011 at 19:30:55 UTC, Walter Bright
wrote:
I often wonder why the zip file format doesn't incorporate 7z.
ZIP and 7z are nothing more than a container. The default and
usually only supported compression method in .zip files is
deflate - the very same one used in gzip
On 12/21/2011 4:41 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2011-12-20 20:57, Trass3r wrote:
The ftp is not the fastest one and 7z reduces the size by 40%.
Switching away from zip could break several installation scripts/tools, it will
break DVM.
I often wonder why the zip file format doesn't incorporat
Everybody is latched on to that because Walter can't get a move on.
Didn't we say a million times already to not pack everything into a
giant zip file? Also, DMD is not distributable by anyone but Walter,
so again we have to wait for his move to host DMD+Phobos binaries
somewhere else.
On 12/21/11 7:22 AM, Robert Clipsham wrote:
On 20/12/2011 19:57, Trass3r wrote:
The ftp is not the fastest one and 7z reduces the size by 40%.
The size doesn't bother me at all. What bothers me is how long it takes
to download... The digitalmars server is incredibly slow.
There's no excuse fo
Pretty much nothing other than zip is Windows friendly.
In fact, software support is where linux sucks badly and can only
dream about windows level support. If people can live without an
archiver, a browser and a cellular, they can live without a
computer as well.
On 2011-12-21 13:42, Elvis Presley wrote:
How about self extracting 7zip archive? It kick ass.
Or have zip, targz/bz2 and 7zip download archive so chose what you like
(repacking script should be more than 10 lines).
Or making separate packages for each OS (bit more of a work too)
Or making downl
On 2011-12-21 14:22, Robert Clipsham wrote:
On 20/12/2011 19:57, Trass3r wrote:
The ftp is not the fastest one and 7z reduces the size by 40%.
The size doesn't bother me at all. What bothers me is how long it takes
to download... The digitalmars server is incredibly slow.
There's no excuse fo
> In addition, some people don't have rights to install new software on
> their system or bring it from home on an USB stick.
They can use this: http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/7-zip_portable ,
no need to install anything. If they don't have rights to their own
executables, they can't us
Le 21/12/2011 11:15, Walter Bright a écrit :
On 12/21/2011 1:31 AM, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
I thought the installers were for newbies. 7z is supported by 7zip,
winrar, and even winzip.
I really don't see how someone can be smart enough to use a systems
programming language but not have a clue ho
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