Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-23 Thread Bruno Medeiros
On 09/03/2011 16:12, Andrej Mitrovic wrote: On 3/9/11, Bruno Medeiros wrote: but that requires compiling and using GDC, which apparently has a host of issues and problems as well; It doesn't have much building problems anymore. There's a couple of patches that need to be applied, but everythi

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-14 Thread troll king
Daniel Gibson Wrote: > Am 14.03.2011 02:21, schrieb Nebster: > > On 12/03/2011 17:23, Daniel Gibson wrote: > >> No reason to "hate" Tango. > > > > Ok, I don't really hate Tango, I just prefer Phobos because I got used > > to it first :) > > This is perfectly fine :) > > Just don't feed the troll

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-13 Thread Daniel Gibson
Am 14.03.2011 02:21, schrieb Nebster: On 12/03/2011 17:23, Daniel Gibson wrote: No reason to "hate" Tango. Ok, I don't really hate Tango, I just prefer Phobos because I got used to it first :) This is perfectly fine :) Just don't feed the trolls and don't let them provoke baseless insults ;

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-13 Thread Nebster
On 12/03/2011 17:23, Daniel Gibson wrote: No reason to "hate" Tango. Ok, I don't really hate Tango, I just prefer Phobos because I got used to it first :)

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-12 Thread Daniel Gibson
Am 12.03.2011 18:16, schrieb Nebster: On 11/03/2011 20:03, Gary Whatmore wrote: Nebster Wrote: On 10/03/2011 19:36, Trass3r wrote: How about adding more stuff to CTFE, esp. pointers and classes? Or get Algebraic data types to typecheck in the compiler :) Stop trolling. We should really ba

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-12 Thread Nebster
On 11/03/2011 20:03, Gary Whatmore wrote: Nebster Wrote: On 10/03/2011 19:36, Trass3r wrote: How about adding more stuff to CTFE, esp. pointers and classes? Or get Algebraic data types to typecheck in the compiler :) Stop trolling. We should really ban these Tango fanboys here. Nobody rea

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-11 Thread Gary Whatmore
Nebster Wrote: > On 10/03/2011 19:36, Trass3r wrote: > > How about adding more stuff to CTFE, esp. pointers and classes? > > Or get Algebraic data types to typecheck in the compiler :) Stop trolling. We should really ban these Tango fanboys here. Nobody really wants to turn D into an ivory towe

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-11 Thread Nebster
On 10/03/2011 19:36, Trass3r wrote: How about adding more stuff to CTFE, esp. pointers and classes? Or get Algebraic data types to typecheck in the compiler :)

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-10 Thread Trass3r
How about adding more stuff to CTFE, esp. pointers and classes?

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-10 Thread Jacob Carlborg
On 2011-03-09 23:16, Andrew Wiley wrote: On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 4:46 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 2011-03-09 11:11, Trass3r wrote: How about a GUI library. Probably helping with an already existing one, DWT for example. Good idea, but rather improve GtkD or QtD. Too bad that's the general

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-09 Thread Andrew Wiley
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 4:46 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote: > On 2011-03-09 11:11, Trass3r wrote: >>> >>> How about a GUI library. Probably helping with an already existing one, >>> DWT for example. >> >> Good idea, but rather improve GtkD or QtD. > > Too bad that's the general opinion people seem to ha

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-09 Thread Jens Mueller
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: > I just submitted an application for GSoC 2011 on behalf of Digital > Mars. Please review and contribute to the project ideas page: > > http://prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?GSOC_2011_Ideas I did some research on Protocol Buffers. I found https://256.makerslocal.org/wiki/

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-09 Thread Jacob Carlborg
On 2011-03-09 17:00, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 3/9/11 1:24 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 2011-03-08 20:37, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: I just submitted an application for GSoC 2011 on behalf of Digital Mars. Please review and contribute to the project ideas page: http://prowiki.org/wiki4d/wi

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-09 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu
On 3/9/11 7:34 AM, Masahiro Nakagawa wrote: > On Wed, 09 Mar 2011 04:37:43 +0900, Andrei Alexandrescu > wrote: > >> I just submitted an application for GSoC 2011 on behalf of Digital >> Mars. Please review and contribute to the project ideas page: >> >> http://prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?GSOC_2

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-09 Thread Masahiro Nakagawa
On Wed, 09 Mar 2011 04:37:43 +0900, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: I just submitted an application for GSoC 2011 on behalf of Digital Mars. Please review and contribute to the project ideas page: http://prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?GSOC_2011_Ideas Networking I think high level networking

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-09 Thread Andrej Mitrovic
On 3/9/11, Bruno Medeiros wrote: > but that requires compiling and using GDC, which > apparently has a host of issues and problems as well; It doesn't have much building problems anymore. There's a couple of patches that need to be applied, but everything is described here: https://gist.github.co

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-09 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu
On 3/9/11 1:24 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 2011-03-08 20:37, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: I just submitted an application for GSoC 2011 on behalf of Digital Mars. Please review and contribute to the project ideas page: http://prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?GSOC_2011_Ideas Thanks, Andrei How ab

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-09 Thread Jacob Carlborg
On 2011-03-09 13:30, Bruno Medeiros wrote: On 08/03/2011 19:37, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: I just submitted an application for GSoC 2011 on behalf of Digital Mars. Please review and contribute to the project ideas page: http://prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?GSOC_2011_Ideas Thanks, Andrei I've

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-09 Thread Masahiro Nakagawa
On Wed, 09 Mar 2011 04:37:43 +0900, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: I just submitted an application for GSoC 2011 on behalf of Digital Mars. Please review and contribute to the project ideas page: http://prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?GSOC_2011_Ideas Bindings to popular IPC/RPC protocols such a

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-09 Thread Jacob Carlborg
On 2011-03-09 13:09, Daniel Gibson wrote: Am 09.03.2011 09:39, schrieb Jacob Carlborg: On 2011-03-09 00:14, Daniel Gibson wrote: Am 08.03.2011 20:37, schrieb Andrei Alexandrescu: I just submitted an application for GSoC 2011 on behalf of Digital Mars. Please review and contribute to the projec

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-09 Thread Jacob Carlborg
On 2011-03-09 11:55, spir wrote: On 03/09/2011 11:46 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 2011-03-09 11:11, Trass3r wrote: How about a GUI library. Probably helping with an already existing one, DWT for example. Good idea, but rather improve GtkD or QtD. Too bad that's the general opinion people se

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-09 Thread Jacob Carlborg
On 2011-03-09 12:12, %u wrote: I think the advantage of gtk or Qt is people can reinvest previous knowledge of the framework. (I mean, they are cross-language in addition to be cross-platform ;-) I would personly prefere a clearly designed D-specific GUI system than gtk's huge mess. (Dunno about

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-09 Thread Bruno Medeiros
On 08/03/2011 19:37, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: I just submitted an application for GSoC 2011 on behalf of Digital Mars. Please review and contribute to the project ideas page: http://prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?GSOC_2011_Ideas Thanks, Andrei I've added two ideas in the IDE category, for Ec

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-09 Thread Daniel Gibson
Am 09.03.2011 11:55, schrieb spir: On 03/09/2011 11:46 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 2011-03-09 11:11, Trass3r wrote: How about a GUI library. Probably helping with an already existing one, DWT for example. Good idea, but rather improve GtkD or QtD. Too bad that's the general opinion people

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-09 Thread Daniel Gibson
Am 09.03.2011 09:39, schrieb Jacob Carlborg: On 2011-03-09 00:14, Daniel Gibson wrote: Am 08.03.2011 20:37, schrieb Andrei Alexandrescu: I just submitted an application for GSoC 2011 on behalf of Digital Mars. Please review and contribute to the project ideas page: http://prowiki.org/wiki4d/wi

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-09 Thread %u
> I think the advantage of gtk or Qt is people can reinvest previous knowledge of the framework. (I mean, they are cross-language in addition to be cross-platform ;-) I would personly prefere a clearly designed D-specific GUI system than gtk's huge mess. (Dunno about Qt, people seem to find it far

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-09 Thread spir
On 03/09/2011 11:46 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 2011-03-09 11:11, Trass3r wrote: How about a GUI library. Probably helping with an already existing one, DWT for example. Good idea, but rather improve GtkD or QtD. Too bad that's the general opinion people seem to have about GUI libraries. I

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-09 Thread Jacob Carlborg
On 2011-03-09 11:11, Trass3r wrote: How about a GUI library. Probably helping with an already existing one, DWT for example. Good idea, but rather improve GtkD or QtD. Too bad that's the general opinion people seem to have about GUI libraries. I don't understand what they don't like about DW

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-09 Thread Trass3r
> How about a GUI library. Probably helping with an already existing one, > DWT for example. Good idea, but rather improve GtkD or QtD.

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-09 Thread spir
On 03/09/2011 10:57 AM, spir wrote: On 03/09/2011 01:52 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 3/8/11 4:11 PM, %u wrote: Uh... how helping fix compiler bugs? Could we help with that? I feel that's *much* more important than benchmarking, for instance, since it doesn't make sense to benchmark someth

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-09 Thread Jens Mueller
spir wrote: > On 03/09/2011 01:21 AM, Jens Mueller wrote: > >%u wrote: > >>>I just submitted an application for GSoC 2011 on behalf of Digital > >>Mars. Please review and contribute to the project ideas page: > >>>http://prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?GSOC_2011_Ideas > >>>Thanks, > >>>Andrei > >> > >>

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-09 Thread spir
On 03/09/2011 01:52 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 3/8/11 4:11 PM, %u wrote: Uh... how helping fix compiler bugs? Could we help with that? I feel that's *much* more important than benchmarking, for instance, since it doesn't make sense to benchmark something if it has bugs. :\ The funny thi

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-09 Thread spir
On 03/09/2011 01:21 AM, Jens Mueller wrote: %u wrote: I just submitted an application for GSoC 2011 on behalf of Digital Mars. Please review and contribute to the project ideas page: http://prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?GSOC_2011_Ideas Thanks, Andrei Uh... how helping fix compiler bugs? Could

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-09 Thread Jacob Carlborg
On 2011-03-08 20:37, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: I just submitted an application for GSoC 2011 on behalf of Digital Mars. Please review and contribute to the project ideas page: http://prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?GSOC_2011_Ideas Thanks, Andrei How about a GUI library. Probably helping with a

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-09 Thread Jens Mueller
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: > On 3/8/11 3:11 PM, Jens Mueller wrote: > >Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: > >>I just submitted an application for GSoC 2011 on behalf of Digital > >>Mars. Please review and contribute to the project ideas page: > >> > >>http://prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?GSOC_2011_Ideas > >

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-09 Thread Jacob Carlborg
On 2011-03-09 00:14, Daniel Gibson wrote: Am 08.03.2011 20:37, schrieb Andrei Alexandrescu: I just submitted an application for GSoC 2011 on behalf of Digital Mars. Please review and contribute to the project ideas page: http://prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?GSOC_2011_Ideas Thanks, Andrei Two

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-08 Thread %u
> Out of curiosity, what's stopping you from helping fix bugs right now? I agree that being paid for it adds motivation, but if it's something you want to do, do it. Great question! :) Right now? The fact that I'm in school and have other things to do. :( During the summer? The fact that I migh

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-08 Thread %u
>> Also, I (obviously) used the word "accuracy" to mean "predictability", not "approximation". > Then you were being inaccurate :o). > Andrei I thought the meaning was predictable. :P

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-08 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu
On 3/8/11 8:30 PM, %u wrote: In machine learning it's very common to trade off accuracy for speed. Andrei Er... do you _honestly_ think people will start writing machine learning programs in D, when we're even having trouble getting them to use D for more typical applications (because of bugs

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-08 Thread Brad Roberts
On 3/8/2011 8:34 PM, %u wrote: >>> I have the same feeling. I'd like to see such projects. But I > believe students are more likely to pick feature-oriented projects. > The stuff that sounds cool. >> And I wouldn't be surprised if Google as well is also more likely > to accepted feature-oriented pr

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-08 Thread Jonathan M Davis
On Tuesday 08 March 2011 20:34:00 %u wrote: > >> I have the same feeling. I'd like to see such projects. But I > > believe students are more likely to pick feature-oriented projects. > The stuff that sounds cool. > > > And I wouldn't be surprised if Google as well is also more likely > > to acce

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-08 Thread %u
>> I have the same feeling. I'd like to see such projects. But I believe students are more likely to pick feature-oriented projects. The stuff that sounds cool. > And I wouldn't be surprised if Google as well is also more likely to accepted feature-oriented projects than bug-fix ones. Wait, I thin

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-08 Thread %u
> In machine learning it's very common to trade off accuracy for speed. > Andrei Er... do you _honestly_ think people will start writing machine learning programs in D, when we're even having trouble getting them to use D for more typical applications (because of bugs)? Also, I (obviously) used t

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-08 Thread Bruno Medeiros
On 09/03/2011 00:21, Jens Mueller wrote: I have the same feeling. I'd like to see such projects. But I believe students are more likely to pick feature-oriented projects. The stuff that sounds cool. And I wouldn't be surprised if Google as well is also more likely to accepted feature-oriented

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-08 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu
On 3/8/11 4:11 PM, %u wrote: Uh... how helping fix compiler bugs? Could we help with that? I feel that's *much* more important than benchmarking, for instance, since it doesn't make sense to benchmark something if it has bugs. :\ The funny thing is that sometimes it makes perfect sense, as ben

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-08 Thread %u
>> Uh... how helping fix compiler bugs? Could we help with that? I feel that's >> *much* more important than benchmarking, for instance, since it doesn't make sense to benchmark something if it has bugs. :\ > I have the same feeling. I'd like to see such projects. But I believe > students are m

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-08 Thread Daniel Gibson
Am 09.03.2011 00:50, schrieb %u: I just submitted an application for GSoC 2011 on behalf of Digital Mars. Please review and contribute to the project ideas page: http://prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?GSOC_2011_Ideas Thanks, Andrei Uh... how helping fix compiler bugs? Could we help with that? I f

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-08 Thread Jens Mueller
%u wrote: > > I just submitted an application for GSoC 2011 on behalf of Digital > Mars. Please review and contribute to the project ideas page: > > http://prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?GSOC_2011_Ideas > > Thanks, > > Andrei > > Uh... how helping fix compiler bugs? Could we help with that? I feel >

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-08 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu
On 3/8/11 3:11 PM, Jens Mueller wrote: Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: I just submitted an application for GSoC 2011 on behalf of Digital Mars. Please review and contribute to the project ideas page: http://prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?GSOC_2011_Ideas Great. I find all of the provided projects usef

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-08 Thread spir
On 03/08/2011 08:37 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: I just submitted an application for GSoC 2011 on behalf of Digital Mars. Please review and contribute to the project ideas page: http://prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?GSOC_2011_Ideas Added topic "D tools in D". Denis -- _ vita es

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-08 Thread Bruno Medeiros
On 08/03/2011 23:07, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 3/8/11 2:35 PM, Bruno Medeiros wrote: On 08/03/2011 19:37, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: I just submitted an application for GSoC 2011 on behalf of Digital Mars. Please review and contribute to the project ideas page: http://prowiki.org/wiki4d/wi

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-08 Thread %u
>> Uh... how helping fix compiler bugs? Could we help with that? I feel that's *much* more important than benchmarking, for instance, since it doesn't make sense to benchmark something if it has bugs. :\ > The funny thing is that sometimes it makes perfect sense, as benchmarks _do_ push the limits

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-08 Thread Dmitry Olshansky
On 09.03.2011 2:50, %u wrote: I just submitted an application for GSoC 2011 on behalf of Digital Mars. Please review and contribute to the project ideas page: http://prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?GSOC_2011_Ideas Thanks, Andrei Uh... how helping fix compiler bugs? Could we help with that? I feel

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-08 Thread %u
> I just submitted an application for GSoC 2011 on behalf of Digital Mars. Please review and contribute to the project ideas page: > http://prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?GSOC_2011_Ideas > Thanks, > Andrei Uh... how helping fix compiler bugs? Could we help with that? I feel that's *much* more importa

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-08 Thread Daniel Gibson
Am 08.03.2011 20:37, schrieb Andrei Alexandrescu: I just submitted an application for GSoC 2011 on behalf of Digital Mars. Please review and contribute to the project ideas page: http://prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?GSOC_2011_Ideas Thanks, Andrei Two (ok, maybe three) IDE related ideas: 1. i

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-08 Thread Jens Mueller
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: > I just submitted an application for GSoC 2011 on behalf of Digital > Mars. Please review and contribute to the project ideas page: > > http://prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?GSOC_2011_Ideas Great. I find all of the provided projects useful. Maybe one should add ZeroMQ to

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-08 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu
On 3/8/11 2:35 PM, Bruno Medeiros wrote: On 08/03/2011 19:37, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: I just submitted an application for GSoC 2011 on behalf of Digital Mars. Please review and contribute to the project ideas page: http://prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?GSOC_2011_Ideas Thanks, Andrei Hum, i

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-08 Thread Bruno Medeiros
On 08/03/2011 19:37, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: I just submitted an application for GSoC 2011 on behalf of Digital Mars. Please review and contribute to the project ideas page: http://prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?GSOC_2011_Ideas Thanks, Andrei Hum, is it important to flesh these out before t

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-08 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu
On 3/8/11 1:23 PM, Tomek Sowiński wrote: Andrei Alexandrescu napisał: I just submitted an application for GSoC 2011 on behalf of Digital Mars. Please review and contribute to the project ideas page: http://prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?GSOC_2011_Ideas Please throw in database interfacing. Doe

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-08 Thread Walter Bright
On 3/8/2011 1:23 PM, Tomek Sowiński wrote: Andrei Alexandrescu napisał: I just submitted an application for GSoC 2011 on behalf of Digital Mars. Please review and contribute to the project ideas page: http://prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?GSOC_2011_Ideas Please throw in database interfacing.

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-08 Thread Tomek Sowiński
Andrei Alexandrescu napisał: > I just submitted an application for GSoC 2011 on behalf of Digital Mars. > Please review and contribute to the project ideas page: > > http://prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?GSOC_2011_Ideas Please throw in database interfacing. Does putting up XML mean I should stop

Re: Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-08 Thread Trass3r
I just submitted an application for GSoC 2011 on behalf of Digital Mars. Please review and contribute to the project ideas page: Great! Maybe a proper tool to convert C/C++ to D? Most importantly header files with a correct translation of constness, conditional compilation etc., but partial

Google Summer of Code 2011 application

2011-03-08 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu
I just submitted an application for GSoC 2011 on behalf of Digital Mars. Please review and contribute to the project ideas page: http://prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?GSOC_2011_Ideas Thanks, Andrei