Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-12 Thread Tourist
On Saturday, 12 October 2013 at 22:16:13 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd2beta.zip Current list of regressions: http://d.puremagic.com/issues/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_severity=regression&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED This isn't a re

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-12 Thread Walter Bright
On 10/12/2013 3:20 PM, Tourist wrote: I'm wondering whether there will be the nifty changelog like it was for 2.063? It only awaits someone to write it! I started on it here: https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dlang.org/pull/391 Here are the relevant links: http://d.puremagic.com/is

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-12 Thread Ivan Kazmenko
On Saturday, 12 October 2013 at 22:16:13 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd2beta.zip Current list of regressions: http://d.puremagic.com/issues/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_severity=regression&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED This isn't a re

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-12 Thread Ivan Kazmenko
On Sunday, 13 October 2013 at 01:26:39 UTC, Ivan Kazmenko wrote: The sizes of Phobos binaries increased by a third for every OS except FreeBSD, which seems to have remained the same (created 17 Feb 2013). Aside from the FreeBSD case which is most likely a bug, is that an expected increase, or

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-13 Thread Dmitry Olshansky
13-Oct-2013 05:29, Ivan Kazmenko пишет: On Sunday, 13 October 2013 at 01:26:39 UTC, Ivan Kazmenko wrote: The sizes of Phobos binaries increased by a third for every OS except FreeBSD, which seems to have remained the same (created 17 Feb 2013). Aside from the FreeBSD case which is most likely a

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-13 Thread Michal Minich
On Saturday, 12 October 2013 at 22:16:13 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd2beta.zip I found 2 issues: 1) Compile time almost doubled. Tested on vibe.d 28 seconds - dmd 2.063 + updated snn.lib 52 seconds - dmd 2.064 beta 2) Regression - After building vibe.d as a l

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-13 Thread Namespace
On Saturday, 12 October 2013 at 22:16:13 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd2beta.zip Current list of regressions: http://d.puremagic.com/issues/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_severity=regression&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED This isn't a re

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-13 Thread Jonathan M Davis
On Sunday, October 13, 2013 11:27:12 Namespace wrote: > DIP 37 causes problems: > http://forum.dlang.org/thread/qlrfzafudnfuialnj...@forum.dlang.org#post-utjv > lygdigsxtkgpfcny:40forum.dlang.org Then report the bug and mark it as a regression if it works with the previous release: http://d.purem

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-13 Thread Namespace
On Sunday, 13 October 2013 at 09:44:23 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote: On Sunday, October 13, 2013 11:27:12 Namespace wrote: DIP 37 causes problems: http://forum.dlang.org/thread/qlrfzafudnfuialnj...@forum.dlang.org#post-utjv lygdigsxtkgpfcny:40forum.dlang.org Then report the bug and mark it as a

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-13 Thread Olivier Pisano
Found one issue : A call to std.functional.memoize crashes with the following error: object.Error: TypeInfo.compare is not implemented ./rossignol(const(pure nothrow @trusted int function(const(void*), const(void*))) object.TypeInfo_Struct.compare+0x3a) [0x89b3032] ./rossigno

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-13 Thread Walter Bright
On 10/13/2013 4:01 AM, Olivier Pisano wrote: Found one issue : A call to std.functional.memoize crashes with the following error: object.Error: TypeInfo.compare is not implemented ./rossignol(const(pure nothrow @trusted int function(const(void*), const(void*))) object.TypeInfo_

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-14 Thread Benjamin Thaut
Am 13.10.2013 00:16, schrieb Walter Bright: http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd2beta.zip This zip does not contain the latest version of Optlink. The one at http://ftp.digitalmars.com/optlink.zip seems to be newer. Kind Regards Benjamin Thaut

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-14 Thread Walter Bright
On 10/14/2013 12:50 AM, Benjamin Thaut wrote: Am 13.10.2013 00:16, schrieb Walter Bright: http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd2beta.zip This zip does not contain the latest version of Optlink. The one at http://ftp.digitalmars.com/optlink.zip seems to be newer. That one is dated 04-10-13, while th

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-14 Thread Benjamin Thaut
Am 14.10.2013 10:59, schrieb Walter Bright: On 10/14/2013 12:50 AM, Benjamin Thaut wrote: Am 13.10.2013 00:16, schrieb Walter Bright: http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd2beta.zip This zip does not contain the latest version of Optlink. The one at http://ftp.digitalmars.com/optlink.zip seems to be

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-14 Thread Rory McGuire
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Benjamin Thaut wrote: > My bad. German dates... We write the the day first then the month and then > the year. > Americans seem to read dates as "October 14th, 2013" which is way they write numeric dates in such an odd way :D. Since I realized that is the reason

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-14 Thread Benjamin Thaut
Am 13.10.2013 00:16, schrieb Walter Bright: http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd2beta.zip Current list of regressions: http://d.puremagic.com/issues/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_severity=regression&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED This isn't a release candidate, in pa

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-14 Thread Benjamin Thaut
Am 14.10.2013 15:14, schrieb Benjamin Thaut: Am 13.10.2013 00:16, schrieb Walter Bright: http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd2beta.zip Current list of regressions: http://d.puremagic.com/issues/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_severity=regression&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=RE

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-14 Thread 1100110
On 10/14/2013 04:59 AM, Rory McGuire wrote: On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Benjamin Thaut mailto:c...@benjamin-thaut.de>> wrote: My bad. German dates... We write the the day first then the month and then the year. Americans seem to read dates as "October 14th, 2013" which is way the

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-14 Thread Jesse Phillips
On Monday, 14 October 2013 at 10:00:01 UTC, Rory McGuire wrote: On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Benjamin Thaut wrote: My bad. German dates... We write the the day first then the month and then the year. Americans seem to read dates as "October 14th, 2013" which is way they write numeri

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-14 Thread monarch_dodra
On Monday, 14 October 2013 at 13:25:23 UTC, Benjamin Thaut wrote: I'm also getting random missing symbol linker errors with both dmd 2.063.2 and dmd 2.064. But only on 32-bit windows. On 64-bit windows it works fine. This is really frustrating... I've encountered this too. I'll try to reduce,

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-14 Thread Walter Bright
On 10/14/2013 6:25 AM, Benjamin Thaut wrote: I'm also getting random missing symbol linker errors with both dmd 2.063.2 and dmd 2.064. But only on 32-bit windows. On 64-bit windows it works fine. This is really frustrating... Is it possible you are linking together code compiled with different

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-14 Thread Walter Bright
On 10/14/2013 2:35 AM, Benjamin Thaut wrote: My bad. German dates... We write the the day first then the month and then the year. Yah, that is terribly confusing, especially considering the global intarnets. I tend to write dates as year-month-day, that way they sort properly in a directory l

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-14 Thread monarch_dodra
On Monday, 14 October 2013 at 19:17:25 UTC, 1100110 wrote: *BOTH* of you write dates in an odd way. http://xkcd.com/1179/ Amen. ISO 8601 FTW. The Japanese got it correct natively though. It's year, then month then day, seperated either by explicit 年月日 (year, month, day), or by "/" or "-". A

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-14 Thread deadalnix
On Monday, 14 October 2013 at 21:21:29 UTC, monarch_dodra wrote: On Monday, 14 October 2013 at 19:17:25 UTC, 1100110 wrote: *BOTH* of you write dates in an odd way. http://xkcd.com/1179/ Amen. ISO 8601 FTW. The Japanese got it correct natively though. It's year, then month then day, seperat

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-14 Thread Jonathan M Davis
On Monday, October 14, 2013 14:18:33 Walter Bright wrote: > On 10/14/2013 2:35 AM, Benjamin Thaut wrote: > > My bad. German dates... We write the the day first then the month and then > > the year. > > Yah, that is terribly confusing, especially considering the global > intarnets. > > I tend to w

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-14 Thread Kagamin
On Monday, 14 October 2013 at 21:18:32 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: Yah, that is terribly confusing, especially considering the global intarnets. I get bitten by it locally too: if there's a test with an inaccurate sql query with time formatted as string, the sql server doesn't always compute it

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-14 Thread deadalnix
On Tuesday, 15 October 2013 at 04:41:13 UTC, Kagamin wrote: On Monday, 14 October 2013 at 21:18:32 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: Yah, that is terribly confusing, especially considering the global intarnets. I get bitten by it locally too: if there's a test with an inaccurate sql query with time f

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-14 Thread deadalnix
On Saturday, 12 October 2013 at 22:16:13 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd2beta.zip Current list of regressions: http://d.puremagic.com/issues/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_severity=regression&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED This isn't a re

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-14 Thread Jacob Carlborg
On 2013-10-15 07:16, deadalnix wrote: This is for that very reason that I prefers to work with timestamps UTC as much as possible. No timzone hell, no format hell, no nothing. Just convert from user input directly, and convert back to text just before output. Agree. Always work with universal

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-14 Thread Nick Sabalausky
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 23:13:25 +0200 "monarch_dodra" wrote: > On Monday, 14 October 2013 at 13:25:23 UTC, Benjamin Thaut wrote: > > I'm also getting random missing symbol linker errors with both > > dmd 2.063.2 and dmd 2.064. But only on 32-bit windows. On > > 64-bit windows it works fine. > > Th

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-15 Thread Jacob Carlborg
On 2013-10-13 00:16, Walter Bright wrote: http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd2beta.zip Current list of regressions: Another one: http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=11268 -- /Jacob Carlborg

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-15 Thread Benjamin Thaut
Am 14.10.2013 23:19, schrieb Walter Bright: On 10/14/2013 6:25 AM, Benjamin Thaut wrote: I'm also getting random missing symbol linker errors with both dmd 2.063.2 and dmd 2.064. But only on 32-bit windows. On 64-bit windows it works fine. This is really frustrating... Is it possible you are l

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-15 Thread Walter Bright
On 10/15/2013 1:50 AM, Benjamin Thaut wrote: Am 14.10.2013 23:19, schrieb Walter Bright: On 10/14/2013 6:25 AM, Benjamin Thaut wrote: I'm also getting random missing symbol linker errors with both dmd 2.063.2 and dmd 2.064. But only on 32-bit windows. On 64-bit windows it works fine. This is re

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-15 Thread Benjamin Thaut
Am 15.10.2013 11:25, schrieb Walter Bright: On 10/15/2013 1:50 AM, Benjamin Thaut wrote: Am 14.10.2013 23:19, schrieb Walter Bright: On 10/14/2013 6:25 AM, Benjamin Thaut wrote: I'm also getting random missing symbol linker errors with both dmd 2.063.2 and dmd 2.064. But only on 32-bit windows

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-15 Thread Andrej Mitrovic
On 10/13/13, Tourist wrote: > I'm wondering whether there will be the nifty changelog like it > was for 2.063? > Andrej? :D We'll see if someone else volunteers to do it. I'm not doing it out of protest.

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-15 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu
On 10/15/13 7:15 PM, Andrej Mitrovic wrote: On 10/13/13, Tourist wrote: I'm wondering whether there will be the nifty changelog like it was for 2.063? Andrej? :D We'll see if someone else volunteers to do it. I'm not doing it out of protest. What are you protesting against? Andrei

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-16 Thread Andrej Mitrovic
On 10/16/13, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: > What are you protesting against? Walter.

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-16 Thread deadalnix
On Saturday, 12 October 2013 at 22:16:13 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd2beta.zip Current list of regressions: http://d.puremagic.com/issues/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_severity=regression&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED This isn't a re

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-16 Thread Anthony Goins
On Wednesday, 16 October 2013 at 13:34:04 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic wrote: On 10/16/13, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: What are you protesting against? Walter. The last change log was awesome. I vote to get rid of Walter. :)

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-16 Thread Brad Roberts
On 10/16/13 6:33 AM, Andrej Mitrovic wrote: On 10/16/13, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: What are you protesting against? Walter. That's not a what, that's a who. Would you please elaborate on the what and why? I haven't seen any obstructionism coming from anyone in terms of repeating the pre

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-16 Thread Jacob Carlborg
On Wednesday, 16 October 2013 at 20:19:17 UTC, Brad Roberts wrote: That's not a what, that's a who. Would you please elaborate on the what and why? I haven't seen any obstructionism coming from anyone in terms of repeating the previous style for this releases notes. Originally Walter thou

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-16 Thread Jonathan M Davis
On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 22:28:41 Jacob Carlborg wrote: > On Wednesday, 16 October 2013 at 20:19:17 UTC, Brad Roberts wrote: > > That's not a what, that's a who. Would you please elaborate on > > the what and why? I haven't seen any obstructionism coming > > from anyone in terms of repeating

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-16 Thread John Colvin
On Wednesday, 16 October 2013 at 20:28:42 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On Wednesday, 16 October 2013 at 20:19:17 UTC, Brad Roberts wrote: That's not a what, that's a who. Would you please elaborate on the what and why? I haven't seen any obstructionism coming from anyone in terms of repeating

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-16 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu
On 10/16/13 2:16 PM, Jonathan M Davis wrote: On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 22:28:41 Jacob Carlborg wrote: On Wednesday, 16 October 2013 at 20:19:17 UTC, Brad Roberts wrote: That's not a what, that's a who. Would you please elaborate on the what and why? I haven't seen any obstructionism coming

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-16 Thread Tourist
On Wednesday, 16 October 2013 at 20:28:42 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On Wednesday, 16 October 2013 at 20:19:17 UTC, Brad Roberts wrote: That's not a what, that's a who. Would you please elaborate on the what and why? I haven't seen any obstructionism coming from anyone in terms of repeating

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-16 Thread Walter Bright
On 10/16/2013 6:33 AM, Andrej Mitrovic wrote: On 10/16/13, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: What are you protesting against? Walter. I'll go have myself flogged, then.

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-16 Thread bearophile
Walter Bright: I'll go have myself flogged, then. But please be gentle and use something soft, like a fake snow leopard tail: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/musta.surma/Hpim4850.jpg Bye, bearophile

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-16 Thread Rory McGuire
On 17 Oct 2013 00:40, "bearophile" wrote: > > Walter Bright: > > >> I'll go have myself flogged, then. > > > But please be gentle and use something soft, like a fake snow leopard tail: Surely having to deal with c++ whenever Walter works on dmd is punishment enough :D.

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-17 Thread Jacob Carlborg
On 2013-10-16 23:16, Jonathan M Davis wrote: Yes, but after Andej did the great changelog for 2.063, Walter publicly admitted that he had been wrong about the changelog. Andrej showed Walter that it _is_ worth doing something more than just a list of bugzilla issues. So, I would assume that what

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-17 Thread Andrej Mitrovic
On 10/16/13, Brad Roberts wrote: > That's not a what, that's a who. - We do not have any vision or major plans ahead for the language. Currently we're stuck in a bug-driven development environment, where bugs are arbitrarily picked off of bugzilla and fixed. But there's no major plans ahead, e.g.

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-17 Thread deadalnix
On Wednesday, 16 October 2013 at 17:41:37 UTC, deadalnix wrote: Hum I have several regression is SDC's test suite. I have to investigate more to fix the code or submit bug report. It looks related to AA. What are the changes that affect AA in this new release ? It turns out that is is a closu

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-17 Thread Jacob Carlborg
On 2013-10-17 22:35, Andrej Mitrovic wrote: - Walter is still not tagging the beta releases by the file name (it's always dmd2beta.zip). I've complained about this several times and IIRC someone else did as well at dconf (maybe I'm remembering wrong though). They should at least be named as "dmd

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-17 Thread deadalnix
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 04:14:59 UTC, deadalnix wrote: On Wednesday, 16 October 2013 at 17:41:37 UTC, deadalnix wrote: Hum I have several regression is SDC's test suite. I have to investigate more to fix the code or submit bug report. It looks related to AA. What are the changes that affe

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-18 Thread eles
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 06:36:43 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 2013-10-17 22:35, Andrej Mitrovic wrote: - Walter is still not tagging the beta releases by the file name (it's always dmd2beta.zip). I've complained about this several times and IIRC someone else did as well at dconf (maybe

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-18 Thread Walter Bright
On 10/17/2013 11:45 PM, deadalnix wrote: Also, when NOT using the unittest flag, a lot of my code do not compile, symbol _D6object15__T7reserveTyaZ7reserveFNaNbNeKAyamZm is missing. See: http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=11284

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-18 Thread deadalnix
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 07:21:47 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 10/17/2013 11:45 PM, deadalnix wrote: Also, when NOT using the unittest flag, a lot of my code do not compile, symbol _D6object15__T7reserveTyaZ7reserveFNaNbNeKAyamZm is missing. See: http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.c

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-18 Thread Andrej Mitrovic
On 10/18/13, eles wrote: > IIRC, Walter wanted that file to always be named dmd.zip or > dmd2.zip or whatever, in order to allow a permanent download > link, while guaranteeing the file to be the latest version of the > tool. This is the wrong approach. There should be a "latest_beta" file which

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-18 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu
On 10/18/13 7:08 AM, Andrej Mitrovic wrote: On 10/18/13, eles wrote: IIRC, Walter wanted that file to always be named dmd.zip or dmd2.zip or whatever, in order to allow a permanent download link, while guaranteeing the file to be the latest version of the tool. This is the wrong approach. The

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-18 Thread Benjamin Thaut
Am 18.10.2013 09:33, schrieb deadalnix: On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 07:21:47 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 10/17/2013 11:45 PM, deadalnix wrote: Also, when NOT using the unittest flag, a lot of my code do not compile, symbol _D6object15__T7reserveTyaZ7reserveFNaNbNeKAyamZm is missing. See:

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-18 Thread Jonathan M Davis
On Friday, October 18, 2013 08:57:00 Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: > > Speaking of which, insisting on using .zip files is another beef I > > have with Walter. The whole "everyone on Windows is stuck in the 90s" > > mentality is plain wrong, especially for programmers. 7zip (or Peazip > > or whatever)

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-18 Thread Andrej Mitrovic
On 10/18/13, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: > I don't think that makes a large difference. Probably the better thing > to do is trimming the contents of the archive. Right, but this is more general. He also dislikes non-zip archives in bugzilla attachments.

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-18 Thread Rory McGuire
On 18 Oct 2013 19:45, "Jonathan M Davis" wrote: > > On Friday, October 18, 2013 08:57:00 Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: > > > Speaking of which, insisting on using .zip files is another beef I > > > have with Walter. The whole "everyone on Windows is stuck in the 90s" > > > mentality is plain wrong, e

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-18 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu
This is a good list of things that we could and should improve. Getting all minded to perfection would be difficult, but definitely worth living into. I appreciate your enthusiasm for and involvement in D. At the top level a few simple realities need to be understood. First, there is no OSS

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-18 Thread Walter Bright
On 10/18/2013 12:33 AM, deadalnix wrote: I highly doubt that this fit into cases 1 to 4 as you mention. I'll however double check with that in mind. I want to know about any other cases, so please investigate. That also doesn't explain why I get a closure bug (frame pointer or frame content

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-18 Thread Walter Bright
On 10/18/2013 11:17 AM, Rory McGuire wrote: Does it even support executable permissions? Yes, it does.

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-18 Thread Rory McGuire
On 18 Oct 2013 21:00, "Walter Bright" wrote: > > On 10/18/2013 11:17 AM, Rory McGuire wrote: >> >> Does it even support executable permissions? > > > Yes, it does. > Nice. It's there any particular reason you prefer zip? I guess it's irrelevant what the current format is if we start using Nick's b

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-18 Thread Jason King
I get bitten by it locally too: if there's a test with an inaccurate sql query with time formatted as string, the sql server doesn't always compute it, because the default "human-readable" time format is taken from the current locale, and to parse it one first has to guess the format itself,

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-18 Thread Walter Bright
On 10/18/2013 12:14 PM, Rory McGuire wrote: Nice. It's there any particular reason you prefer zip? It's easy and works on all platforms. I also point out that, for all platforms supported, when we do a release we also build a custom download package for each platform in that platform's prefer

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-18 Thread Andrej Mitrovic
On 10/18/13, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: > nobody has the time and inclination to actually _be_ the > build czar (which is entirely understandable). Building something should be a command on the command-line. The whole issue is about currently having a person in place of a tool. > You yourself di

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-18 Thread Walter Bright
On 10/18/2013 1:29 PM, Andrej Mitrovic wrote: But I hope you understand this isn't really about you or Walter not doing these things yourself, but rather the fact that you didn't seem to recognize this as being a problem. I've mentioned the build/release issue many times, and now we finally have

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-18 Thread Jonathan M Davis
On Friday, October 18, 2013 15:31:05 Walter Bright wrote: > We do need a Build Czar, because the install builds break every time, due to > things like failure to update the manifests, new build targets, new > features, etc. Somebody has to be responsible for getting all the scripts > tested and wor

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-19 Thread ilya-stromberg
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 20:29:29 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic wrote: On 10/18/13, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: As a simple start, did you consider announcing the beta yourself? I didn't, because I disliked the current model and tied my hands when I saw the new beta was out due to the sum of frus

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-19 Thread Johannes Pfau
Am Fri, 18 Oct 2013 11:45:27 -0700 schrieb Andrei Alexandrescu : > > - We do not have any defined release timeline. When is it time to > > start prepping for a release? It's up to Walter's arbitrary decision > > for when this happens, he doesn't even talk to the community or > > contributors on w

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-19 Thread Benjamin Thaut
Am 18.10.2013 20:45, schrieb Andrei Alexandrescu: Walter and I frequently think of ways to gently steer people toward working on specific items. Votes, categorization, discussions are of limited impact. On occasion we've emailed major contributors directly and asked politely but point blank if th

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-19 Thread Iain Buclaw
On Oct 18, 2013 3:09 PM, "Andrej Mitrovic" wrote: > > On 10/18/13, eles wrote: > > IIRC, Walter wanted that file to always be named dmd.zip or > > dmd2.zip or whatever, in order to allow a permanent download > > link, while guaranteeing the file to be the latest version of the > > tool. > > This

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-19 Thread Iain Buclaw
On Oct 18, 2013 7:45 PM, "Andrei Alexandrescu" < seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org> wrote: > > Walter scrambled to implement UDAs in a rush and breaking protocol in order to win a corporate D user, Remedy Games. It was a major, exceptional event. Would you have preferred the protocol to have been follo

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-19 Thread Iain Buclaw
On Oct 19, 2013 10:11 AM, "Johannes Pfau" wrote: > > Am Fri, 18 Oct 2013 11:45:27 -0700 > schrieb Andrei Alexandrescu : > > > > - We do not have any defined release timeline. When is it time to > > > start prepping for a release? It's up to Walter's arbitrary decision > > > for when this happens,

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-19 Thread Manu
On 19 October 2013 21:29, Iain Buclaw wrote: > > On Oct 18, 2013 7:45 PM, "Andrei Alexandrescu" < > seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org> wrote: > > > > Walter scrambled to implement UDAs in a rush and breaking protocol in > order to win a corporate D user, Remedy Games. It was a major, exceptional > ev

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-19 Thread Iain Buclaw
On 20 October 2013 07:06, Manu wrote: > On 19 October 2013 21:29, Iain Buclaw wrote: >> >> >> On Oct 18, 2013 7:45 PM, "Andrei Alexandrescu" >> wrote: >> > >> > Walter scrambled to implement UDAs in a rush and breaking protocol in >> > order to win a corporate D user, Remedy Games. It was a majo

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-20 Thread Kagamin
On Saturday, 19 October 2013 at 11:39:08 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote: > It has been about 3 months since the last release of the D > front-end implementation. Three years experience and > carrying > out over 100 merges into GDC tells me that each time the > development cycle starts edging towards i

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-21 Thread Leandro Lucarella
Andrei Alexandrescu, el 18 de October a las 11:45 me escribiste: > >- We do not have any defined release timeline. When is it time to > >start prepping for a release? It's up to Walter's arbitrary decision > >for when this happens, he doesn't even talk to the community or > >contributors on whether

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-22 Thread Rory McGuire
Why not just copy what Linus does with the Linux kernel. Different people in charge of different parts of the compiler. Pull requests should go to the correct person, who then makes a pull request that goes to the main line. On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Leandro Lucarella wrote: > Andrei Al

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-22 Thread Iain Buclaw
On 22 October 2013 08:35, Rory McGuire wrote: > Why not just copy what Linus does with the Linux kernel. Different people in > charge of different parts of the compiler. Pull requests should go to the > correct person, who then makes a pull request that goes to the main line. > > The thing is, t

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-23 Thread Walter Bright
Beta 3: http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.064.beta.3.zip

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-23 Thread Iain Buclaw
On 24 October 2013 02:29, Walter Bright wrote: > Beta 3: > > http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.064.beta.3.zip I suppose I better start opening a branch in gdc for the new release -- Iain Buclaw *(p < e ? p++ : p) = (c & 0x0f) + '0';

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-24 Thread Iain Buclaw
On 24 October 2013 07:44, Iain Buclaw wrote: > On 24 October 2013 02:29, Walter Bright wrote: >> Beta 3: >> >> http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.064.beta.3.zip > > > I suppose I better start opening a branch in gdc for the new release > > Noticed this in meld, the readme.txt file is different

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-25 Thread eles
On Saturday, 12 October 2013 at 22:16:13 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd2beta.zip Current list of regressions: It is a specific reason why this is kept?: http://forum.dlang.org/thread/ohduisigpwdiqhpde...@forum.dlang.org#post-btwbpwgluzyxmhphwebp:40forum.dlang.org

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-25 Thread eles
On Saturday, 12 October 2013 at 22:16:13 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd2beta.zip Current list of regressions: http://d.puremagic.com/issues/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_severity=regression&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED And the famou

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-25 Thread Namespace
On Friday, 25 October 2013 at 13:24:12 UTC, eles wrote: On Saturday, 12 October 2013 at 22:16:13 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd2beta.zip Current list of regressions: http://d.puremagic.com/issues/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_severity=regression&bug_status=NEW

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-25 Thread Walter Bright
On 10/25/2013 6:15 AM, eles wrote: It is a specific reason why this is kept?: http://forum.dlang.org/thread/ohduisigpwdiqhpde...@forum.dlang.org#post-btwbpwgluzyxmhphwebp:40forum.dlang.org Breaking peoples' build scripts and makefiles is not nice :-)

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-26 Thread eles
On Friday, 25 October 2013 at 20:24:48 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 10/25/2013 6:15 AM, eles wrote: Breaking peoples' build scripts and makefiles is not nice :-) On the same grounds, you could recommend them dmc. Provide, at least, a flag that passes the file without name change, for example:

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-26 Thread eles
On Friday, 25 October 2013 at 15:57:27 UTC, Namespace wrote: On Friday, 25 October 2013 at 13:24:12 UTC, eles wrote: On Saturday, 12 October 2013 at 22:16:13 UTC, Walter Bright When was decided to add this? I would love it, but I cannot remember that this was decided. Well, like many other id

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-26 Thread Walter Bright
On 10/26/2013 12:42 AM, eles wrote: Provide, at least, a flag that passes the file without name change, for example: dmd -ntest will really pass "test" file and not test.d. I'm curious why naming the file test.d is an issue?

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-26 Thread eles
On Saturday, 26 October 2013 at 08:36:53 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 10/26/2013 12:42 AM, eles wrote: I'm curious why naming the file test.d is an issue? Case: This forces scrpts to bear the .d extension. For example, if you write a script on Linux named "git-test" and you put at the top:

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-26 Thread Walter Bright
On 10/26/2013 2:02 AM, eles wrote: On Saturday, 26 October 2013 at 08:36:53 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: I'm curious why naming the file test.d is an issue? Case: Thanks for the clear explanation. It makes a lot of sense. Let me think about it for a bit.

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-26 Thread Walter Bright
On 10/26/2013 2:02 AM, eles wrote: On Saturday, 26 October 2013 at 08:36:53 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 10/26/2013 12:42 AM, eles wrote: I'm curious why naming the file test.d is an issue? Case: http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=11365

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-26 Thread eles
On Saturday, 26 October 2013 at 21:11:02 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 10/26/2013 2:02 AM, eles wrote: On Saturday, 26 October 2013 at 08:36:53 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 10/26/2013 12:42 AM, eles wrote: http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=11365 Thank you for considering it.

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-31 Thread eles
On Saturday, 26 October 2013 at 22:35:14 UTC, eles wrote: On Saturday, 26 October 2013 at 21:11:02 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 10/26/2013 2:02 AM, eles wrote: On Saturday, 26 October 2013 at 08:36:53 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 10/26/2013 12:42 AM, eles wrote: http://d.puremagic.com/issues

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-31 Thread eles
On Saturday, 26 October 2013 at 22:35:14 UTC, eles wrote: On Saturday, 26 October 2013 at 21:11:02 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 10/26/2013 2:02 AM, eles wrote: On Saturday, 26 October 2013 at 08:36:53 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 10/26/2013 12:42 AM, eles wrote: Thank you for considering it.

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

2013-10-31 Thread eles
On Thursday, 31 October 2013 at 14:16:22 UTC, eles wrote: On Saturday, 26 October 2013 at 22:35:14 UTC, eles wrote: On Saturday, 26 October 2013 at 21:11:02 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 10/26/2013 2:02 AM, eles wrote: On Saturday, 26 October 2013 at 08:36:53 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 10/26

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