[digitalradio] Subband operation outside the U.S.

2006-02-07 Thread KV9U
I have never understood this attitude that countries outside the U.S. should be able to have to move down for voice transmissions. What it says to me is those operatiors view those lower areas as having more room without QRM. When I compare the amount of ham signals on the bands to say 25 years

[digitalradio] SubBands (WAS- ARRL proposal removes baud rate limitations on HF)

2006-02-07 Thread John Becker
What is going to happen when and if the HF bands are opened up for SSB to the "no-coders" ? Pick a number for your turn on a band or just a 27Mhz free-for-all. At 10:59 PM 2/6/06, you wrote: >Since most, if not all Central and South American countries have no >subbands, they go where they want, wh

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ARRL proposal removes baud rate limitations on HF

2006-02-07 Thread Jose Amador
Maybe most countries, but certainly not all... Jose, CO2JA --- Danny Douglas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Since most, if not all Central and South American > countries have no > subbands, they go where they want, when they want. > Our SSB moving down any > bit at all, with simply cause them to

Re: [digitalradio] SubBands (WAS- ARRL proposal removes baud rate limitations on HF)

2006-02-07 Thread KV9U
John, It may very well be that there are not all that many no-code HF interested hams. Look what happened with the no-code Technician License. We did get an initial influx of course, and we will see that with a no-code HF license too, but after that we may find that there really are not that m

[digitalradio] Re: Subband operation outside the U.S.

2006-02-07 Thread jgorman01
I don't find anything unusual at all about other countries giving their phone operations room to roam below the US bands. If I was located there, I would be asking for that too! I don't know about 160, but there is plenty of 'foreign' interference on 80 and 40. As far as CW goes, 5 wpm is pain

[digitalradio] The UK Amateur Radio Band Plan

2006-02-07 Thread Mel
For those who may be interested to know 80 metres * 3.500 to 3.510CW DX portion 3.500 to 3.560CW band allocation 3.560 to 3.585Novice portion 3.580 to 3.620CW and digital modes 3.620 to 3.800Phone allocation and CW 3.775 to 3.800Phone DX portion I cannot recal

Re: [digitalradio] The UK Amateur Radio Band Plan

2006-02-07 Thread John Bradley
this is almost identical with the VOLUNTARY bandplan currently being followed in Canada, the exception being no phone ops under 3.700, and SSB to 4.000. ditto on hearing no CW in the phone bands except between 3.7 and 3.725, and we do not have a novice band   John VE5MU - Original M

Re: [digitalradio] The UK Amateur Radio Band Plan

2006-02-07 Thread Kevin O'Rorke
I have been following this thread about band blans since its inception, with great intere st, and I wonder why it is that the US hams seem to think that the world starts and finishes in the USA. There is an awfull lot of world outside of the "States". The US hams seem to think that any country t

Re: [digitalradio] The UK Amateur Radio Band Plan

2006-02-07 Thread W4LDE-Ron
It's nature Kevin, please forgive us. We will catch up to the rest of the world some day! Ron W4LDE Kevin O'Rorke wrote: >I have been following this thread about band blans since its inception, >with great intere >st, and I wonder why it is that the US hams seem to think that the world >sta

Re: [digitalradio] The UK Amateur Radio Band Plan

2006-02-07 Thread Alan NV8A
Might even adopt the Metric system within another century or so. My Dutch-born mother-in-law says that if she could get used to miles and pounds and inches at age 40+, Americans could easily get used to the Metric system if they started learning it in school. Alan NV8A On 02/07/06 07:21 pm W4

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ARRL proposal removes baud rate limitations on HF

2006-02-07 Thread Dr. Howard S. White
Dave:   This is scary... we actually agree...   I even like your wording.. which makes a Heck of a lot of sense...   __Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6  ex-AE6SM  KY6LAWebsite: www.ky6la.com "No Good Deed Goes Unpunished""Ham

Re: [digitalradio] The UK Amateur Radio Band Plan

2006-02-07 Thread Danny Douglas
I dont think anyone has said that band plans, just because they are different than ours, are wrong. What has been said is that having different band plans can lead to difficulties for one or the other, or both. If your band plan allows your operators to work modes on frequencies where anothers ba

Re: [digitalradio] SubBands (WAS- ARRL proposal removes baud rate limitations on HF)

2006-02-07 Thread Dr. Howard S. White
At our local VEC Meeting we heard that the FCC is rumored to be eliminating the CW barrier in its entirety in the next week...or so... effective about July   So there will be an influx of new General "No Coders'   But do not get your hopes up...   I have been teaching Tech and Gen

Re: [digitalradio] The UK Amateur Radio Band Plan

2006-02-07 Thread Dr. Howard S. White
Thanks for sharing your direct experience from UK, Canada and Australia.. on your voluntary bandplans..   I have personally also had direct experience with these plans and found just like you all have found that they work exceedingly well..   And of course, there is no good reason to think

Re: [digitalradio] The UK Amateur Radio Band Plan

2006-02-07 Thread Thomas Giella KN4LF
We silly Americans think that just because we prop up the rest of the world with $$$ and also protect it from the "real" bad guys, that the world should do everything "our way".   I seem to remember a mantra that was prevalent about 19 years ago when I first got my license. It went somethi

[digitalradio] Re: ARRL proposal removes baud rate limitations on HF

2006-02-07 Thread Dave Bernstein
Great! I hope you will join me in vigorously opposing adoption of the current ARRL proposal (RM-11306) in favor of one consistent with the proposal below. After reading many of the submitted comments, I am persuaded that RM- 11306 if also wrong-headed with respect to AM, but this is not the pla

Re: [digitalradio] The UK Amateur Radio Band Plan

2006-02-07 Thread John Bradley
No, that's not how it is. Many of these band plans have been in active use for over 50 years. What makes you think that the rest of the world will abandon historical band plans because the USA says so.   think Again!  ( we are open to invasion Monday Wednesdays and Fridays Only)     Jo

[digitalradio] Re: The UK Amateur Radio Band Plan

2006-02-07 Thread Dave Bernstein
This "bickering", as you call it, has been occurring on portals, reflectors, news groups, and mailing lists all over the internet. That's why there are more than 900 RM-11306 comments filed on the FCC web site, compared with the 20 comments filed when 97.221 was proposed in April 1995. Whateve

Re: [digitalradio] The UK Amateur Radio Band Plan

2006-02-07 Thread Danny Douglas
Please dont put words in my mouth.  I did not say that the rest of the world should abandon band plans because the US says so.  I am saying the WORLDS Hams SHOULD INSIST on international band plans.  Having 50 different plans is more useless than not having one at all.  I know how those pl

[digitalradio] Re: The UK Amateur Radio Band Plan

2006-02-07 Thread zl1gbb
Hear, hear. cheers Graeme zl1gbb --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Danny Douglas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Please dont put words in my mouth. I did not say that the rest of the world should abandon band plans because the US says so. I am saying the WORLDS Hams SHOULD INSIST on interna