Thanks Dave, I did check that also.
Nothing muted...
John
Yes - up till I run the program, then I must re-boot the
computer to get any output back again.
At 04:47 PM 4/5/2007, you wrote:
Hi John,
OK, when you hook up speakers to the sound card do they get any audio?
73 de AF6AS
Dave
Got this part working.
213700 0 -20 3.0 -576 13 *
213800 13 -3 8.8 -102 3 * WD4KPD W6OUU DN22 1 0
213900 0 -18 5.4 57 8 #
214000 16
232800 0 -20 2.9 -476 8 * W0JAB W4RBO EL99 0 6
but for some reason I have no audio out from the sound card
with this program.
Walt connect me off list.
John
Walt connect me off list.
John
on 14,076 beaming north east
Ok I got to ask, what does this one does that the others don't?
BTW still can't log into the cluster.
At 06:13 PM 4/2/2007, you wrote:
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, abalajala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.ham-radio.ch/kits/beta/3.5/1436/HRDv035b1436_Full.exe
Downloaded,
frequency ?
sure
At 08:44 PM 4/2/2007, you wrote:
7076 USB, want to try John?
Where is the software located?
At 11:42 PM 3/25/2007 Dave, AA6YQ wrote:
Personally, I'd give them a 3 KHz segment on 20m,
Easy, Dave your hatred is showing once again.
But in truth this really would be like giving the PSK guys
point three KC of the band. Either way it just ain't going
to work and Ray Charles could see
At 03:14 PM 3/26/2007, Dave, AA6YQ wrote in part:
The reason we don't seen hundreds of PSKMail servers confronting
WinLink is that there isn't much interest in sending email over HF.
Just when does a piece of ARRL type traffic becomes email?
Once upon a time between 068 and 075 the band was
Let's get back the D-R
John, W0JAB
list moderator
Now remember we now have some that can't speak CW at all.
At 09:01 AM 3/21/2007, you wrote:
I really dont want to start a CW vs anything war here really I DONT.. but you
are dead wrong on CW it is faster to talk with CW than with voice and you can
QSK that is what is was invented for.Tnx
Let's change the subject or get back to the subject.
At 06:05 PM 3/15/2007, you wrote:
What did Ham Radio do before the Internet E-Mail?
Packet, Amtor and Pactor BBS's.
so there !
Now I'm I missing something - I don't seen to have a problem with HF
packet. But then again I don't use a sound card for it either.
At 09:29 PM 3/15/2007, you wrote:
It still seems a bit non-intuitive that using a 2400 baud rate with two
tones can work well and yet 300 baud packet hardly works
For what's it's worth -
I have 3 of these clocks, 2 cheap and one real good one.
All 3 reset and different times. The good one will open the
receiver at 2am local time and then 3 and 4 if the 2am signal
is misses. Same for my Casio watch - 2, 3 and 4. Last night
the watch up dated at 4:04 but
I guess for the same reason that us ham's have been passing traffic
going back to the very start of it. RTTY - CW - SSB - PACKET -
AMTOR and PACTOR. I don't see a thing wrong with a ham that
happens to be at sea (without internet or cell service) sending a
message to ever how likes.
Before one
Well seems that I hosed that message up.
Sorry list members.
John
Last year for almost 5 week we went over this very same subject.
Nothing has changed. Getting the same comments from the same
list members.
It's time the end this thread -again-.
John, W0JAB
so there !
At 08:35 PM 3/7/2007, you wrote:
I have never heard of narrowmode only portions before, Danny.
Where were they?
Bonnie KQ6XA
Same here...
I think the use of more then use of more then one
frequency is from the old days of the packet BBS's
so there !
At 09:03 PM 3/7/2007, you wrote in part:
The cw,rtty, data subbands are considered narrow mode,
This is really good to know. It should put a stop to all
the complaining that has been going on about the RTTY
AMTOR and PACTOR signals on the bands. I just love
it when we all can just get along
There are some PSK-31 PropNet station on 10,139.5 dial frequency
1500 offset at this time.
so there !
After looking at the winlink position report page there must
be 50 or so hams at sea. Now why in the world would anyone not
want them to be able to send a message back to home.
We have been down this road many many time in the last 2 years
on this list. We ain't going to take that bumpy ride
Chuck ET all
It's been over a year since I have tried to copy the winlink
system with my SYS TNC (been fighting lung cancer) but as I recall
I never did have a problem coping any of the it. I may be wrong
on this and I hope not after sending Chuck a direct note that you
can copy it if you are P3
If the guy at sea was a ham why would care what type of a message
he was sending?
At 07:42 PM 3/8/2007, you wrote:
I'm with you on that. Why the ARRL supports what is essentially long
range Citizen's Band or Marine Band is beyond me.
de Roger W6VZV
so there !
Ok playing Devil's Advocate here.
why in the world would the PSK pick 070 any knowing that
has was used for years and years for the auto pactor station
It's like play tag in a 5 lane interstate.
This one I'll never understand.
At 07:49 PM 3/8/2007, you wrote:
The above is the best example of
Nice try Dave but I'm not buying that.
Again playing Devil's Advocate here.
Why should a ham at sea be forced to not use *any*
mode of ham radio to get a message back home?
At 08:16 PM 3/8/2007, you wrote:
Because we forget that WinLink PMBOs have permanent ownership of
whatever frequencies
Don't buy this either having played RTTY - Amtor - Pactor,
and packet that was above 100
Roger please don't try that with me - I'm been doing digital (RTTY)
and the above mode since 1970.
At 08:32 PM 3/8/2007, you wrote:
Very simple. Because the 070 frequencies have always been
You do have a problem then. I don't
As I don't have a waterfall or sound card and can't click
on a thing. Therefore - again - if I say meet me on 14,075
you will be right on with my mark space tone with 2125
2295. Now if you have what ever you run way off the standard
you will have to look
Rick
What was the shift used? In the St. Louis area there
was a 146.10 .70 repeater that used 850Hz shift.
Since I have not lived in the area for some 20 years now
I have no guess if it's still on the air.
Danny,
I think that I would be correct in guessing that the sound card
modes do have a *default* off set when installed. I only run
2 sound card modes, ALE and that is fixed dial frequency
and HELL. With HELL I know that I will find other HELL operators
in one part of the band and always tune them
At 10:19 AM 2/24/2007, you wrote in part:
The truth is that no one used the AFSK dial frequency
Sure they did. Is was so easy to just say the dial frequency
rather saying put you mark on .
I don't recall anyone running AFSK that would call out mark or space
frequency. It was always
would it not be easy to listen to the beacon frequency
and then start the complaining if there is QRM from a ALE
station.
Look at what Bonnie said and I think you will agree that the math
looks very good.
John, W0JAB
Michael
I can't help you with the ICON but on the Yaesu it will use
the band that is in the main display HF to UHF band.
if split is selected the sub band will be the TX band
and the main band your RX band.
With the FT 847 for ISS I would use split mode 145.99 in the
sub and 145.800 in the main.
Guys let put this subject to rest.
I think all and I do mean all have made their points.
At 09:54 PM 2/17/2007, you wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Morse Code is no longer a requirement for a
license - true statement.
The FCC justified their decision in part based on
their determination that it was no longer valuable
enough to require.
It's more like it was based on Political
I wish I had all your free time to look this up all the time
At 07:06 PM 2/17/2007, you wrote:
It is legal under FCC rules for W1AW to transmit code practice under
97.111 Authorized transmissions.
(b) In addition to one-way transmissions specifically authorized
elsewhere in this Part, an
Did this very same subject not come up last fall?
If I recall that horse was beat well past a bloody death.
I think you will get the very same answers as then.
At 08:28 AM 2/14/2007, you wrote:
guessing the freq is around 1807, but when ?
david/wd4kpd
Keep in mind that the PropNet folks are using 1807.5...
Is it the band or the mode ? ? ?
It seems to me in my 35 years as a ham that 80 and 160
are at it's best this time of year.
John, W0JAB
At 09:51 PM 2/13/2007, you wrote:
Hi Bill,
Yes, busy night tonight on 160:)
The question I wanted to ask the group was whether they have found on
the lower
Rick
I don't care either. I don't use PSK myself. the only reason I bring
it up it that the PropNet station broadcast a beacon so many times
an hour. I just don't want to see a load of whining and crying when
someone gets QRM by one oh the propnet station like they did
over the pactor station.
Key word being *unattended* ..
I can not speak for the stations on 160 but I do see the reports
on the web site.
First understanding how this animal works will really help you.
I wont go into it here.
At 06:27 PM 2/14/2007, you wrote:
John,
Is it your understanding that they are running
Lots out there.
I have been using YAPP since about 1985.
John - W0JAB
At 04:14 PM 2/5/2007, you wrote:
I need software to run a Kantronics PC3+ on Windows XP.
What is available
Dan N0ZIZ
Yes it will.
Works with all my TNC.
It's a dos program but very easy to use.
What are you using now for packet?
John, W0JAB
At 05:04 PM 2/5/2007, you wrote:
Will YAPP work with the MJF-1270C as well on XP
How hard it is to set up?? I'm ok operating Packet, but know NOTHING about
having
Yes, I may have been born at night but it
was not last night.
Click on start run type in CMD hit enter -
you get a DOS window.
At 05:20 PM 2/5/2007, you wrote:
But Windows XP doesn't have a DOS platform, how can it work? Are you sure
you're working in WIndows XP?
I have been using the ARD9800 for about 4 years in the mobile.
Really can't say about the MK2.
You can see a photo of the FT-840 and DV modem mounted
in my ford F-150 pick up at
http://www.hamradio-dv.org/aor/digital-ssb/fellow-users/fellow-users-pics/w0jab/w0jab-stn.htm
John, W0JAB
At 12:26
I run YAPP a DOS program going back to 1985 and
have no problem what so ever running it on this XP machine.
At 03:13 PM 1/31/2007, you wrote:
Thanks for the reply and software, but I should have been more specific.
I have an MFJ-1270C TNC and would like to be able to use it with my XP machine!
What is that on or about 3,584?
I know hell and this aint it. but is back on again
At 07:55 PM 1/24/2007, you wrote:
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, John Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is that on or about 3,584?
Feld Hell
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At 02:03 PM 1/21/2007, you wrote in part:
There was no good reason to distort the tests by
inserting the specialized hardware, I believe that
Pactor I will run on a sound card, only Pactor II
and III are dependent on rare proprietary hardware
with rare proprietary software run under a proprietary
Gee I have been doing it all wrong then.
My PACKET - AMTOR PACTOR station
runs on a Dell 200mhz system running
DOS 6.2 with YAPP (yet another packet program)
that cane out in 1985 or 86.
The SCS PTC-LLex pactor III TNC has not clue
what OS I am running.
John Becker wrote:
At 02:03 PM 1/21/2007
Bob
you may like to try the PK-232 yahoo list
for help also.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PK232/
This is information from another list.
May be useful for members here.
---
Dear friends
YWØDX Aves Island is an DXpedition sponsored by the 4M5DX group, which
Im member, and in this occasion we want to privilege the digimodes
(RTTY and PSK
need a slash after the dot com Andy
http://www.obriensweb.com./unid.mp3
slow scan TV
At 07:29 PM 1/22/2007, you wrote:
What is this mode ?
http://www.obriensweb.com.unid.mp3
It was on 7034 this evening around 0100 UTC. It sounds familar but
can't remember what it is .
how about restricting non-contesters into a sub-band
being that there would be fewer of them and more contesters.
It has always been a free for all every contest weekend for the
37 years that I have been a ham.
At 12:02 PM 1/9/2007, you wrote:
Seems to me the obvious solution is to put
Sorry for doing this on the list but having some
asking I think this will be the easy way to get
to all on one shot.
After seeing the doctor right after Thanksgiving
for total and complete muscle weakness. I was given
3 shots and told to go home and rest. On Saturday
Dec 1st I went back after not
The anti-wide group got their wish.
The RTTY DX window on 40 among others is a thing of the past.
Life with it.
Yes
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ARD9800/join
John W0JAB
At 03:18 PM 11/2/2006, you wrote:
Is there an AOR users' group only. I am blind and don't feel that WIN
DRM would be appropriate for me especially since WIN DRM appears to be
mostly sending and receiving of images. I own an
I will be mobile over the weekend on 14,236 with digital voice.
Time will be a WAG but anytime I'm near the pick up or
on the road.
Feel free to give a call.
John, W0jab
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OK guys - I at last got the hi-swr problem fixed.
I'm on 40 at this time 7.080, LSB of course.
Game for any connect.
John, W0JAB
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Not really Danny.
I have posted that I'm there - all anyone to do is get on that freq
and connect That's OK mixw wont cut it anyway.
At 05:44 PM 11/1/2006, you wrote:
someone has to initiate, assumed you were calling. Anyway, I dont have
Pactor right now- its in my MIXW which isnt
At 06:51 PM 11/1/2006, you wrote:
?? Mixw has PACTOR .
ARQ mode???
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At 07:31 PM 11/1/2006, you wrote:
I dont know John. I havent used it in Mixw, and when just looked it just
says PACTOR.
What freq are you on again?
7080
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Thanks Joe.
I did not think it had ARQ and that's the meat of Pactor
and Amtor.
At 07:51 PM 11/1/2006, you wrote:
MixW only copies and no ARQ mode.
Joe
W4JSI
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We need to start trimming our replays.
There is not need to re-post a message for the 3rd, 4th or more times.
Remember - those that live in the rural area may not have too big
of a in box.
Thanks.
John
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It was PSK - don't know who as I don't use that mode.
And I must agree with what you said about the FCC,
Of course I said that same thing when they did away
with the 13 and 20 WPM code test. Yep know about
Europeans - work a lot of RTTY DX around 7035 to 40
over the years.
At 10:08 PM
I don't think keyboard to keyboard has anything to do with it.
At 05:03 PM 10/22/2006, Mark, N5RFX wrote:
You guys are going to have to do the math for me. I do understand that faster
throughputs mean that I will be occupying a certain amount of spectrum for a
shorter period of time, but the
No Danny - maybe I did not make myself clear on this .
Mark said
I do understand trading bandwidth for accuracy
and that can be added to the equation too, but that really
only applies to forwarding messages, not keyboard to
keyboard QSOs.
This is not true. It *applies* to all...
All my
Hate to be the one to tell you this - but there
is a lot of the you guys running RTTY, Packet,
Amtor and Pactor that do nothing but KB to KB
QSO's on the bands... And enjoy it very much.
What would you do about them using umpteen KC
of the band?
At 07:35 PM 10/22/2006, you wrote:
You guys was
Danny you make some very good points. Just the other
evening I was tuning to 40 meter band around 7,071 and
could hear 5 QSO's within 3 KC. That is not good band use.
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At 10:05 PM 10/15/2006, you wrote:
I know some have asked for chunks that way, but at the same time for chunks
with larger signal bandwidth. What I am concerned about is some 3 kc signal
getting on top of us when we are using cw or psk or some other narrower
signal, and wiping us out. Already
What can I say to please you?
But just like RTTY - PSK has no God given right
to that part of the band either. But like I said below
(in red this time). Seems you missed it before.
At 01:57 PM 10/16/2006, you wrote:
Last weekend, or was it the one
before, during a RTTY contest, I heard them
Danny
Your right. Same thing could be said for just about any mode
on a contest. I hope you was using RTTY as a case in point
and not picking on RTTY.
At 08:10 AM 10/12/2006, you wrote:
Dave, as you see from the below calls, I have been there/done that, and know
first hand that most people do
I can't help you either.
A bit hard to mount a computer vs AOR DV modem in a mobile
set up like I have done.
John, W0JAB
At 08:41 AM 10/11/2006, you wrote:
Paul,
Have you found a significant difference between the quality and
robustness of the AOR product vs. WinDRM?
__._,_.___
Need a
Sitting on 7240 for a while.
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* To visit your group
I was on the road most of the weekend and had a number of
very good QSO's on 14,236 while mobile.
Like to see more. It seems that after 4 or 5 years that DV
is starting to pick up now.
John, W0JAB
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Most if not all that I have talk to have been
on 7296 LSB so that all even the general call hams
can take part.
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I have been on it for just over 3 years now.
check 7240LSB there is a few on there now
At 08:53 PM 10/8/2006, you wrote:
I'll be checking that often! Guess the mode is still too new to have
definitive sub-bands hi hi!
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At 06:05 PM 9/27/2006, you wrote:
I am interested in trying my first digital voice QSO, using WINDRM, anyone
want to also try it tonight ?
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I must agree with Bill on this.
But one must remember that on a contest weekend
it's pretty much all agreements are off. Ever try to get
a PSK or RTTY signal on the air in a CW weekend...
With my RTTY equipment ( Hal ST-6 28 machine )
I can place my mark between another stations tones
and not
I think that today you would get a much better picture of
band openings by checking http://www.propnet.org/ ...
There not only can you check propagation but also from
band to band with maps. And who is coping who.
Such a much better view of what is going on.
John, W0JAB
At 08:18 PM 9/25/2006,
Comments in line.
At 09:23 PM 9/22/2006, you wrote in part
Today, we don't have these limitations. We do need a standard, and
the standard is still to transmit the mark as the high frequency, and
the space as the low frequency. The shift for FSK is now 170
Hz. Terminal units that used
The ST-6 is looking for a mark tone of 2125 and a space of 2295.
If for some reason the other guy is on USB but still with 2125
2295 tones I can flip the reverses switch and copy him just fine.
If he is using a TNC that has the 200Hz shift I can't copy.
At 09:21 PM 9/24/2006, you wrote:
Your
I could but why replace something that works? And has
for 25 years Like daddy always said - if it ain't broke
don't fix it.
At 09:39 PM 9/24/2006, you wrote:
REPLY FOLLOWS
You might want to consider retiring the ST-6 and using MMTTY. It
switches easily between 170
At 10:39 PM 9/24/2006, you wrote:
--- REPLY FOLLOWS
Perhaps I misunderstood. I thought you said you couldn't receive 200
Hz shift. Sorry.
Bill, W6WRT
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At 11:28 PM 9/14/2006, you wrote:
AA6YQ comments below
Wrong. SCAMP, a protocol that employs ARQ to attain reliable
delivery, was implemented on a Windows PC with a soundcard rather
than an outboard TNC. SCAMP was specifically design to tolerate the
long delays caused by the lack of
Wrong I think. With the right operating system, running on the
right/correctly configured computer (hardware) and with the right software,
you can do what Pactor II/III or almost any other mode used can do.
Really ?
If this was true we would be running it today.
And I just don't see it on
At 09:33 AM 9/15/2006, you wrote:
John,
What modes are you talking about. As I mentioned, Amtor and Pactor are
dead as far as sound cards go.
Amtor and Pactor -
I think that was very clear in my post Rick.
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Can you put a name in there for the list members?
John, W0JAB
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At 06:58 PM 9/17/2006, you wrote:
+++AA6YQ comments below
+++Then having a technical discussion with you is a waste of time,
John. You were right, the thread is dead.
Not really Dave, if you recall I have been running ARQ Amtor since
the early days when you had to have the printed circuit board
I think this thread is about dead.
WHAT WE KNOW AT THIS MOMENT:
A computer will not work for a fast ARQ mode because
every time it does anything else that timing link is
lost.
FIX:
If you would like to play the AQR modes better get
yourself some hardware (TNC) .
Need a Digital mode
I have a P 2 3 TNC.
Dave are you telling me that software is doing that same thing
and just as good? If so I have not seen a thing being said about
with any of the QSO's that I have had in the past.
At 09:08 PM 9/14/2006, you wrote:
That's not true, John. SCS multimode controllers do a fine
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