Re: [digitalradio] That pesky FSK RTTY

2007-02-25 Thread Jose A. Amador
John Bradley wrote: > > > AFSK sends diddles , as in MIXW. Nice sounding? well.. > > JOhn > VE5MU Any serious "routine" (see it as a program or a combination of lever movements) generates "didles" whenever there is no message to be transmitted. "Cheapo" computer programs omi

Re: [digitalradio] That pesky FSK RTTY

2007-02-25 Thread Danny Douglas
That pesky FSK RTTY Thanks Danny and Rick. So, before sound cards, I used an old fashioned TNC and a rig that would only do AFSK not FSK. How did that work ? One thing I did not like about the TNC days was that when sending RTTY it did not generate any of that nice sounding RTTY diddles.

Re: [digitalradio] That pesky FSK RTTY

2007-02-25 Thread John Bradley
AFSK sends diddles , as in MIXW. Nice sounding? well.. JOhn VE5MU - Original Message - From: Andrew O'Brien To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] That pesky FSK RTTY Thanks Danny and

Re: [digitalradio] That pesky FSK RTTY

2007-02-25 Thread Andrew O'Brien
Thanks Danny and Rick. So, before sound cards, I used an old fashioned TNC and a rig that would only do AFSK not FSK. How did that work ? One thing I did not like about the TNC days was that when sending RTTY it did not generate any of that nice sounding RTTY diddles. Will that now be the

Re: [digitalradio] That pesky FSK RTTY

2007-02-25 Thread Robert Meuser
Originally RTTY was strictly FSK. The frequency was actually shifted +/- 170 Hertz. This was by either shifting the VFO or switching between two crystals. At the far end a discriminator recovered the FSK modulation. When RTTY operation shifted to computers or more modern terminal devices, an

Re: [digitalradio] That pesky FSK RTTY

2007-02-25 Thread KV9U
In the "old days" the VFO was shifted by mechanically switching a smaller capacitor in and out across the VFO tuning capacitor. This is probably why mark high was the standard, since adding capacitance would pull the frequency lower for the space tone. Today we are mostly using synthesized VFO'

Re: [digitalradio] That pesky FSK RTTY

2007-02-25 Thread Andrew O'Brien
OK, I think I get it but.. > With FSK, there is no setting up of the drive levels from the sound card > since you are basically switching the frequencies from inside the rig. > tell me more about the above. How does the switching of frequencies generate tones heard at the other end.

Re: [digitalradio] That pesky FSK RTTY

2007-02-25 Thread KV9U
Andy, The main advantage with FSK is that you have the ability (with some rigs) to use certain filtering specific to RTTY. My ICOM rig has superior filters that are double humped and shaped for the 170 tones. I can not use them on AFSK, but due to the requirement of needing another COM port an

[digitalradio] That pesky FSK RTTY

2007-02-25 Thread Andrew O'Brien
OK, my cable for my Microkeyer should arrive in a day or so My new rig provides for FSK RTTY as opposed to the AFSK my old rig has been providing for the past 18 years. I have seen many post over the past few years about FSK, but have paid little attention. It seems though that many have some