From: Charles Crizer
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 9:07 PM
>In most cases, the long haul infrastructure of the Internet is the same as
our
>long distance and Intralata phone system. These are rather robust systems.
>Are they infallible? Of course not. But they are here to stay and where
they
>
rfax County South)
American Red Cross of the National Capital Area
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Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 13:39
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digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: The Internet is Unreliable for Amateur
RadioService Emergency Communications
Charlie,
I am assuming you really mean Winlink 2000 which is completely different
than the older Winlink system that was strictly an RF only system that
did not
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Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Re: The Internet is Unreliable for Amateur
RadioService Emergency Communications
Walt,
I meant Autovon for phone (non-data) use. Served agencies will usually use
all their means before they turn to Amateur radio. Many times they will use
a backup gov
Charlie,
I am assuming you really mean Winlink 2000 which is completely different
than the older Winlink system that was strictly an RF only system that
did not use the internet?
Your hypothetical scenario is a very real possibility and has happened
to us on occasion with our traffic nets bein
m [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 10:17
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Re: The Internet is Unreliable for Amateur
RadioService Emergency Communications
Charlie,
Autovon is now called Defense Switchi
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Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 10:07 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Re: The Internet is Unreliable for Amateur
RadioService Emergency Communications
There is a difference between an attack and a disaster. If we have a
ization's fall back? And, how well can amateur radio assist them in their
need for messaging?
Walt/K5YFW
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Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 8:25 PM
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pital Area
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Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 22:08
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: The Internet is Unreliable for Amateur
RadioService Emergency Communications
>
> Lets make a little wager. I'll guarantee this message gets to the list
> using the supposedly unreliable SMTP technology. I'll guarantee it for X
> dollars that it works. Now - for what value of Y dollars will anybody
> here guarantee me that it doesn't work? Do we lose one message in a
>
> Maybe you should go read RFC 822 -- SMTP, which is the mail transport used
> on the internet, is NOT reliable, never was, never will be guaranteed
> delivery. Maybe in the future there will be yet another protocol for
> sending email that IS reliable and guaranteed delivery, but SMTP isn't it!
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From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 1:16 PM
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Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Re: The Internet is Unreliable for Amateur
RadioService Emergency Communications
Maybe you should go read RFC 822 -- SMTP, which i
;t it!
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Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 1:54 PM
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Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 3:48 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: The Internet is Unreliable for Amateur
RadioService Emergency Communications
The posts I was replying to did not have emergency comms in reference; the
c
The posts I was replying to did not have emergency comms in reference; the
circumstances were in reference to ordinary postings. He described delays
in ordinary posts and rejections by ISPs. Emergencies are another story.
Bill-W4BSG
At 01:58 PM 9/15/2006 -0400, you wrote:
> > The problem you h
> The problem you have is with your (and your friends) ISPs, not the
> Internet. Try a real Service provider. Mine is good enough to let Video get
> through.
> Bill-W4BSG
The disaster/emergency weakness of the Internet is that
the physical backbone is extremely vulnerable whereas
direct 100% wir
The problem you have is with your (and your friends) ISPs, not the
Internet. Try a real Service provider. Mine is good enough to let Video get
through.
Bill-W4BSG
At 02:53 PM 9/14/2006 -0500, you wrote:
> > I have a friend who lives 142 miles (as the crow flies) southeast of me.
> > He can s
and
that their communications are "broken." Yipes!!!
Walt/K5YFW
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Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 2:53 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
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> I have a friend who lives 142 miles (as the crow flies) southeast of me.
> He can send me an E-Mail at say 10:00 local asking me to get on 40M for a
> QSO at 15:00. Sometimes I don't get the E-Mail until well after the Skd
> time...and sometimes not at all because his E-Mail service bounces his
4:09 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Re: The Internet is Unreliable for Amateur
RadioService Emergency Communications
Murphy says so. Unimportant, or unwanted email will be very reliably
delivered, while important and very much wanted email will not be reliably
, August 25, 2006 3:46 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: The Internet is Unreliable for Amateur
RadioService Emergency Communications
>
> I agree that the intenet can very unreliable. Of course so can HF
> communications:
If the Internet is so unreliable, how
>
> I agree that the intenet can very unreliable. Of course so can HF
> communications:
If the Internet is so unreliable, how come all that spam gets to me?
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