Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibreOffice for Academic Work -- College/University

2012-05-18 Thread Mark Preston
Marc, My apologies; I was not aware you were looking for how people managed to up-rate LibreOffice to work better for academic work. In my own case, I found the writer's tools offered by Dimitri Popov as an extension toolkit to be most useful, particularly for things like citations, bibliography

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibreOffice for Academic Work -- College/University

2012-05-16 Thread Mark Preston
Marc, So far I've avoided commenting on your request for two main reasons: I was obliged to retire last February so am no longer an academic as such and also it was not clear what you were meaning. Let me say that I never had problems with LibO (since the addition of free-motion paths into

Re: [tdf-discuss] MS Outlook?

2012-02-15 Thread Mark Preston
i most sincerely hope not! It is not an email reader or a task scheduler. For that, may I suggest you get Thunderbird from Mozilla On 15/02/2012 08:58, Shawn Sumin wrote: Will LibreOffice ever have a similar program like MS Outlook? i.e. Calendar, Tasks, Contacts and Mail -- Unsubscribe

Re: [tdf-discuss] OASIS Standard ODF 1.2 Approved

2011-10-03 Thread Mark Preston
Well, I worked with the W3C on doing the initial work on RDF but not done anything for a while. If I can remember the login details I can try to mention it. On 03/10/2011 09:45, Jaime R. Garza wrote: It would be great if connected people could help to introduce this idea. I hope it doesn't stay

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-10-02 Thread Mark Preston
How about you just read the goddamn RFC's for email protocol and stop whining about it? On 01/10/2011 23:26, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: orcmid comments-in-line=true / -Original Message- From: Tim Schofield [mailto:t...@weberpafrica.com] Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 14:03 To:

Re: [tdf-discuss] ignore m$ legacy?

2011-07-30 Thread Mark Preston
compete with what has been done in the past unless we deal with those legacy documents that will be kept anyway. On 30/07/2011 14:33, e-letter wrote: On 23/07/2011, Mark Preston m...@mpreston.demon.co.uk wrote: Look, lets be honest about this - Microsoft has by far the largest proportion

Re: [tdf-discuss] ignore m$ legacy?

2011-07-23 Thread Mark Preston
Look, lets be honest about this - Microsoft has by far the largest proportion of legacy documents out there and there is no way that people can manage without access to those documents. Apart from anything else, the law will require them to be kept and available if needed for any future

[tdf-discuss] New install issue

2011-07-19 Thread Mark Preston
Just installed the 3.3.3 version from the website on a clean machine and hit a problem. I already had ODT documents copied to the PC, the install when perfectly fine. Snag was, the ODT documents were not recognised and set to default to LibreOffice - and to make matters worse, couldn't be assigned

Re: [tdf-discuss] Offer MHTML support

2011-07-11 Thread Mark Preston
Well, Jesse - where to begin? Let's start with what MHTML is - it is Mime-encoded Hypertext Mark-up Language or alternatively Multipart What this refers to is that the various parts that may be in a web page (images, Flash videos, audio tracks etc.) are all saved as a single file, usually

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Font Embedding in ODF

2011-07-05 Thread Mark Preston
Plino, You seem a little confused, which is quite remarkable given the blog you linked to is quite clear. First of all, font-embedding is not supported because embedded fonts are one of the very many things ODF and indeed XML in general is intended to get rid of. It was always a bad idea, is a

Re: [tdf-discuss] Enhancement Request: Comment Ranges

2011-06-10 Thread Mark Preston
Well, Charles, I also write fiction and publishers can be swine, I admit - but I also write for journals and you should see editors! With care, I do manage to use LibreOffice, and earlier OpenOffice, throughout though I agree they don't all like it. My attitude is that slowly we will get them to

Re: [tdf-discuss] [Call for help] Native English speaker needed for proofreading a LibO tool draft proposal

2011-05-21 Thread Mark Preston
Will do - no problem. Give me a day or two to go through it. On 21/05/2011 17:08, Gianluca Turconi wrote: Hello *, I really need some native English speaker in order to proofread a LibO tool draft proposal I made here: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/LibreOfficeWiki/Proposed

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: OpenOffice dead and burried?

2011-05-18 Thread Mark Preston
May I just take the time to agree 100% that this old stuff is, or should be, dead and buried so we can move on. Remember, we are not alone in forking from Oracle this way - for instance the Drizzle database (by ex-MSQL developers) is now rated best non-proprietary database option and this month

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Question about proposing the creation of a new format

2011-04-27 Thread Mark Preston
Dear good gods alive no! :eave the HTML to proper HTML IDE tools like Eclipse and don't try to be everything in one package. On 26/04/2011 22:48, e-letter wrote: I think this is a very interesting issue. We are moving from the dominant technologies that were designed to put information on paper

Re: [tdf-discuss] European Commitee enter talks with MS licences, Please make your action today against it.

2011-04-05 Thread Mark Preston
Steve, While I understand your points, and Mike's, I can't say I agree with them particularly. On one issue we do agree and it is perhaps something to be looked at by the development team. That is the automatic timed save of documents while worked on. It is the case that should you lose a

Re: [tdf-discuss] Two questions about course of LO

2011-03-31 Thread Mark Preston
On 31/03/2011 05:48, aqualung wrote: Got a couple of questions. (1) I heard that OpenOffice is restricted from re-using code from LibreOffice because Oracle insists on broader licenses than LO developers are willing to give, but the reverse is not true. So, from this aspect LO can only

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Euro symbol not inserted into write documents

2011-03-25 Thread Mark Preston
Yes, I'm aware you can do that. I was talking about the standard keyboard - which I thought Tinkerer was too. On 24/03/2011 23:00, Simon Cropper wrote: On 25/03/11 09:18, Mark Preston wrote: How odd. Here in the UK - and most other places I've seen,Alt Gr + (numeral) 4 produces the Euro

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Euro symbol not inserted into write documents

2011-03-24 Thread Mark Preston
How odd. Here in the UK - and most other places I've seen, Alt Gr + (numeral) 4 produces the Euro symbol. On 23/03/2011 18:55, Tinkerer wrote: On my keyboard Option+2 prints €. Tink -- View this message in context:

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Setup Advice

2011-02-27 Thread Mark Preston
it in our own documentation and on the site. On 27/02/2011 19:29, Barbara Duprey wrote: On 2/26/2011 4:27 PM, Mark Preston wrote: Thanks very much for this. I have the downloaded set-up files now and will think hard on whether to install it or not - it has to depend on how heavily we need

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Setup Advice

2011-02-26 Thread Mark Preston
, Mark Preston wrote: I'm about ready to load up LibreOffice and start running it for work but have really one simple question before I do. Background is I will be running it on Windows Vista, currently run OpenOffice and will be using it near daily including with MS Office documents

Re: [tdf-discuss] Setup Advice

2011-02-22 Thread Mark Preston
Thanks very much Barbara. Glad to see someone has beaten me to it. On 21/02/2011 23:08, Barbara Duprey wrote: On 2/21/2011 4:16 PM, Mark Preston wrote: I'm about ready to load up LibreOffice and start running it for work but have really one simple question before I do. Background is I

[tdf-discuss] Setup Advice

2011-02-21 Thread Mark Preston
I'm about ready to load up LibreOffice and start running it for work but have really one simple question before I do. Background is I will be running it on Windows Vista, currently run OpenOffice and will be using it near daily including with MS Office documents and presentations. So the question

Re: [tdf-discuss] REVIEW ARTICLE: VITAL reading for LibreOffice developers, users, supporters

2011-02-17 Thread Mark Preston
Thanks for getting in touch, Joe, and I'll try to answer where I can. On 16/02/2011 16:45, Joe Rotello wrote: Almost VITAL reading for LibreOffice developers, users, and supporters: [snip] The reasoning is that these weakness areas MUST be addressed and SOON, ...[snip] These include

Re: [tdf-discuss] Who Handles LO Portable?

2011-02-12 Thread Mark Preston
I regularly use Oo_O Portable in classes to avoid the obvious potential file type clashes in different versions of the UK education standard MS Office but have so far not been able to find a LibO Portable version. Could you give me a link to it if you have it handy? On 12/02/2011 10:38, Harold

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Hate to mention this but

2011-01-28 Thread Mark Preston
Yeah, sorry about this NoOp - I should have mentioned we tried that but got complete gibberish. On 27/01/2011 23:27, NoOp wrote: On 01/27/2011 02:50 PM, Mark Preston wrote: The other day we were sent a document but the sender had - presumably by mistake - a template rather than document

[tdf-discuss] Hate to mention this but

2011-01-27 Thread Mark Preston
The other day we were sent a document but the sender had - presumably by mistake - a template rather than document and in the DOTX format. Searching the web, we found this is a horrible format with which an awful lot of people have had problems with this format and even the Microsoft Word Viewer

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

2011-01-03 Thread Mark Preston
I actually agree wholeheartedly with Italo here - please do not try to hamstring the developers with your (or our) own preferences! The idea of community discussion is to guide developers, not to instruct them to do the impractical or impossible and equally not to instruct them (for whatever

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

2011-01-03 Thread Mark Preston
On 02/01/2011 18:29, Charles Marcus wrote: On 2011-01-02 12:07 PM, Mark Preston wrote: Please remember that both LibO and OpenO can already *read* the formats and the issue is whether or not it is practical or pragmatic to put effort into developing something to *write* the OOXML form. Eh

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

2011-01-02 Thread Mark Preston
Craig, Please remember that both LibO and OpenO can already *read* the formats and the issue is whether or not it is practical or pragmatic to put effort into developing something to *write* the OOXML form. On 02/01/2011 00:50, Craig A. Eddy wrote: Barbara, First, ODF IS the ISO standard -

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Digest of discuss@documentfoundation.org issue 140 (3843-3863)

2010-12-31 Thread Mark Preston
I should have thought that, with the massive issues even Microsoft has of meeting the alleged standard they have set, it was fairly obvious why other software has not tried to meet it. ODF works, is well-supported and even works in Microsoft Office so with respect the answer is to use ODF and not

Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

2010-12-31 Thread Mark Preston
If I may inject what I hope is a little sense into this argument:- A major strength of Open Office is and always was that it could read and often write documents in many proprietary formats. That strength should remain solidly a feature of Libre Office and for exactly the same reasons. When it

Re: [tdf-discuss] Google changes and Torrents

2010-12-27 Thread Mark Preston
was typed into the search engine but that it will not be used for the search hints list or quick search features. On 24/12/2010 15:47, Michael Wheatland wrote: On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 12:48 AM, Mark Preston m...@mpreston.demon.co.uk wrote: Is it likely that the - I suppose I should say suggested

[tdf-discuss] Google changes and Torrents

2010-12-24 Thread Mark Preston
Is it likely that the - I suppose I should say suggested - changes to Google search terms, specifically the removal of the word torrent from the simple search terms, will affect Open Software availability? Specifically the Libre Office obviously. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: A better idea for a download package.

2010-12-03 Thread Mark Preston
I see several issues in the discussion about installers - and I only just joined the list! Let's list 'em... 1. You are assuming everyone will be running Linux. They won't. 2. You assume they all have a packaged Linux distro. They won't. 3. You presume they can all grab tar's themselves. They