Re: [tdf-discuss] Official supported and still maintained Python package

Hi Christian, c.bu...@posteo.jp wrote: > Looking around in the web I can find a lot of Python packages for reading > and writing files in OpenDocument format. Based on the last commit date and > the count of Issues and RPs, all of them seem unmaintained and out-dated. > If you are a developer, an

[tdf-discuss] Impress & ODF ecosystem ideas (was: some ideas for public agenda for TDF board meeting on Friday, May 8th at 1300 Berlin time)

Hi Edmund, as discussed on the members list, let's continue in public - some feedback below: Edmund Laugasson wrote: > Hereby are my proposals to consider: > > o *topic:  zooming feature in presentation* - e.g. famous > proprietary Prezi and its FLOSS counterpa

Re: [tdf-discuss] epic idea: SVG

Hi Edmund, thx for sharing your ideas; some very interesting pointers in this thread - Edmund Laugasson wrote: > At least SVG export seems to be missing for now, only PNG. Certainly PNG > should remain but SVG should come. > Impress has quite good SVG animation support since GSoC 2013, when Marc

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: RfD: Non-corporate user representation?

Hi Mike, you wrote: > I'd be happy to put more effort into a better version if gets > support. Keeping this kind of text simple and inviting is always > very difficult. > [snip] Thanks for your very constructive approach here! As Charles mentions, the next step would be to hammer out a final vers

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: RfD: Non-corporate user representation?

Hi Nino, you wrote: > My impression is exactly the same, so what you clarified is that > depreciation of users is not Charles' personal mindset but a general > thinking in TDF/LibreOffice community. > This is emphatically not what I said. Our user base is of utmost importance. The sticking point

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: RfD: Non-corporate user representation?

Nino Novak wrote: > Am 05.12.2014 um 18:42 schrieb Charles-H. Schulz: > > At zero. Seriously very little value. And this is also why > > LibreOffice just like most other FOSS is available free of charge. > > Ok, I see your attitude. > > For me, every single user of LibreOffice is an appreciat

[tdf-discuss] Reminder: [ANN] Membership Committee upcoming election

Dear Community, this is a reminder that in about 24 hours, the nomination period for the upcoming Membership Committee election closes. Eligible are all present members of the foundation: http://www.documentfoundation.org/foundation/members/ If you consider running, please submit your nominatio

[tdf-discuss] [ANN] Membership Committee upcoming election

dedication for The Document Foundation! On behalf of the Board of Directors, Thorsten Behrens [1] http://www.documentfoundation.org/foundation/members/ [2] http://www.documentfoundation.org/statutes.pdf -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http

Re: [tdf-discuss] May-September 2013 profits & losses

I wrote: > Apologies for the substantial lag in reporting TDF finance updates, > but you notice the large increase in donations - since that went > largely in via PayPal, our earlier scripted import + manual handling > of PayPal idiosyncrasis became intractable. It is now fully scripted. > Just in

[tdf-discuss] May-September 2013 profits & losses

nual handling of PayPal idiosyncrasis became intractable. It is now fully scripted. Many thanks for your ongoing support, with kind regards, -- Thorsten Behrens, Director, Deputy Chairman of the Board The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerli

[tdf-discuss] [board-discuss] April 2013 profits & losses

cely accessible archive is this one: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Board-Discuss-f1783306.html) Many thanks for your ongoing support, with kind regards, -- Thorsten Behrens, Director, Deputy Chairman of the Board The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Rechtsfähige Stiftung

Re: [board-discuss] BoD minutes from 2013-04-17

Florian Effenberger wrote: > AI: Thorsten to add corresponding line to BoD / QA meetings wiki > page. > This is done meanwhile. -- Thorsten signature.asc Description: Digital signature

[tdf-discuss] March 2013 profits & losses

ttps://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Tdfbudget2013.pdf (note that the discuss list strips attachments - please refer to the board-discuss archives for those, if you are not subscribed there) Many thanks for your ongoing support, with kind regards, -- Thorsten Behrens, Director, Deputy Chairman of the B

[tdf-discuss] February 2013 profits & losses

ttps://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Tdfbudget2013.pdf (note that the discuss list strips attachments - please refer to board-discuss archives for those, if you are not subscribed there) Many thanks for your ongoing support, with kind regards, -- Thorsten Behrens, Director, Deputy Chairman of

[tdf-discuss] January 2013 profits & losses (was: Re: [board-discuss] TDF Budget as of 2013-02-12)

.org/File:Tdfbudget2013.pdf for the detailed items. Many thanks for your ongoing support, with kind regards, -- Thorsten Behrens, Director, Deputy Chairman of the Board The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details:

Re: [tdf-discuss] Dual licensing of patches and code

Jim Jagielski wrote: > Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: > > That was not what either Florian or the policy said. This is a > > matter of community, not just of license. Such combinations of > > licenses do not lead to a contribution being automatically > > accepted or rejected, either at Apache or at TDF,

Re: [board-discuss] FTP space for LibreOffice Server Install GUI

Norbert Thiebaud wrote: > Adding headers etc. is fine... but the project is already licensed > under LGPLv3 which is fine for the purpose. > ( > https://github.com/reisi007/LibreOffice_Server_Installation_GUI/blob/master/doc/LICENCE > ) > So I don't think there should be a requirement of re-licens

[tdf-discuss] Re: [board-discuss] Re: November 2012 profits & losses

Marc Paré wrote: > I have a few questions about section 2900. I am not sure if some of > the items belong there. > Hi Marc, thanks for actually reading those things - I answer a bit selectively: > What was 2900 Other costs charitable mission EUR 533.60 spent on? > Lawyer and banking fees, all un

[tdf-discuss] November 2012 profits & losses (was: Re: [board-discuss] TDF Budget as of 2012-12-06)

profits & losses report. This is the first month accounting for accrued donations from our credit card provider (some of that going back into September). Many thanks for your ongoing support, with kind regards, Cheers, -- Thorsten Behrens, Director, Deputy Chairman of the Boa

[tdf-discuss] Preliminary December 2012 profits & losses (was: Re: [board-discuss] TDF Budget as of 2012-12-12)

2012 profits & losses report. This report is preliminary, pending tax advisor approval for the TDF annual financial report. Many thanks for your ongoing support, with kind regards, -- Thorsten Behrens, Director, Deputy Chairman of the Board The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Be

Re: [tdf-discuss] Watermark in PDF Export

Andreas Mantke wrote: > currently the color of the watermark and the font/typeface are hard > coded. There is no option to change that yet. > Though it shouldn't be too hard to add - want to file an easy-hack bug for it, Andi? Cheers, -- Thorsten -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+

[tdf-discuss] Re: [board-discuss] Re: [ANN] LibreOffice 2013 conference poll final result

Marc Paré wrote: > As this on the discuss list, here are my observations: Maybe next > time another geographic zone could be picked? It is a remarkable > experience for everyone when you have to organize an overseas trip > every year. The expense can be daunting and having a conference in > the sam

[tdf-discuss] [ANN] LibreOffice 2013 conference poll final result

ear's LibreOffice Conference Poll, look forward to Montreal possibly running again for 2014, and hope to meet many of you in Milano at the conference venue somewhat later this year! With kind regards, -- Thorsten Behrens, on behalf of the board The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berli

Re: [tdf-discuss] "Check for updates" still shows 3.6.5 in LibreOffice (3.6.1.2)

webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: > 3.6.5 is the newest of that line. > > As far as I know, that is the way it goes, so far. > Yep. We tend to suggest upgrades to the newest branch at around x.y.3 releases, depending on the amount of reported annoying bugs left. HTH, -- Thorsten -- Unsubscribe ins

Re: [tdf-discuss] Are return codes implemented?

chuckSMASH wrote: > When you invoke LibreOffice from the command line with the headless command > and try to convert a file to another format, the exit code of the command is > zero regardless of whether LibreOffice was actually able convert the file or > not. > Hi Chuck, thanks for your heads-up

[tdf-discuss] September 2012 profits & losses (was: TDF Budget for 2012 as of 2012-10-02)

ort. Net income is most likely about € 400.00 higher, but we still haven't received proper reporting from our card payment service provider, so I can't properly account for that yet. I'll update the statement once that's in. Kudos to Marc for improved account name translations.

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice implementer notes

Hi Jesper, glad to see you here! :) You wrote: > What is missing is clearly the delta between the implementation of > LibreOffice and ODF itself - in other words: what parts of ODF is not > implemented in LibreOffice? A classic example of this would be missing > support in LibreOffice of the char

[tdf-discuss] Re: August 2012 profits & losses

[moving this over to discuss@ only] Marc Paré wrote: > Suggestions: > > 3221 Monetary Donations With Tax Receipt > 3223 Monetary Donations Without Tax Receipt > 3225 Benefits in Kind With Tax Receipt > 3227 Benefits in Kind Without Tax Receipt > 3230 Expense Allowances With Tax Receipt > 3232 Exp

[tdf-discuss] Re: [board-discuss] Re: August 2012 profits & losses

Hi Marc, you wrote: > A couple of questions and remarks: > > * The Revenues section has different titles with the words: "from > donation receipt", "donation receipt to", "against tax receipt" -- > were these supposed to mean "with tax receipt"? > well, the translations came from you IIRC - I ha

[tdf-discuss] August 2012 profits & losses (was: TDF Budget for 2012 as of 2012-09-01)

ate Concardis reporting (our credit card payment service provider). Many thanks for your ongoing support, with kind regards, -- Thorsten Behrens, Director, Deputy Chairman of the Board The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Le

Re: Topic of board-discuss list (was: [tdf-discuss] Re: Rules of Procedure approved for TDF board of directors)

Pedro wrote: > I'm not sure that is the idea. Otherwise you would not get the following > message when you try to post to that list on Nabble > > " Authorized Users Only > Only authorized users can proceed in this area. You can use the form below > to send a request to the administrators. > Access

Topic of board-discuss list (was: [tdf-discuss] Re: Rules of Procedure approved for TDF board of directors)

Marc Paré wrote: > Thanks. I am subscribed to that list, but was not aware that the > membership was allowed to join in. I thought that that particular > list was for board discussion only by board members only. > Hi Marc, terribly sorry if we ever gave that impression. Admittedly, the entry on h

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Rules of Procedure approved for TDF board of directors

Marc Paré wrote: > Is is just me or has this announcement not been passed on GMane? It > shows in the regular mailing list that I receive in my inbox, but > does not show at all on my GMane which is what I monitor. > Hi Marc, it seems to be there now: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.document

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Rules of Procedure approved for TDF board of directors

Marc Paré wrote: > Here is my feedback after having read the document: > Thanks a lot Marc for your very detailed review. Since the board has already approved the earlier version, would you be ok if we table your suggestions for a little while? It's not unlikely we'll have to update the rules of p

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibreOffice Portable

Hi Pedro, I slightly reorder your mail - you wrote: > Exactly. That is something the BoD has to decide. After all the > quality of LibreOffice should be the BoD's main concern IMO... > Quality surely should be a concern to all of us. But I disagree that it should be _the_ overall main concern (i

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibreOffice Portable

Pedro wrote: > This is something that the BoD needs to decide. If the Lifecycle > has no value, then stop wasting time and resources on maintaining > the previous branch. If it makes sense then don't recommend the > new branch until it reaches x.x.3 > This seems ultimately to be still an issue of

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibreOffice Portable

features, more bugs, known security issues etc. ;) Cheers, -- Thorsten Behrens, Director, Deputy Chairman of the Board The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint -- Unsubscrib

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: TDF Statutes -- check over the EN version

I can't volunteer, > I desperately lack time). > I can at least offer to proof-read the occasional intermediate version. I was heavily involved in drafting both German & English versions. Cheers, -- Thorsten Behrens, Director, Deputy Chairman of the Board The Document Foundat

[board-discuss] TDF Accounting: an update

e can accurately reflect them in the ledger. Cheers, -- Thorsten Behrens, Director, Deputy Chairman of the Board The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint pgp7Odq1xGXDL.pgp Descri

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Security Advisories

Simon Phipps wrote: > In my view all that's gone wrong this time is that the CVE was not > listed in the release announcement. That should probably be fixed > next time. > Hi Simon, all, well - it's not that easy. The rationale to act as we did was this: We wanted to release 3.4.6 as early as pos

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: The Document Foundation officially incorporated in Berlin, Germany

Marc Paré wrote: > I believe that "Activities" is missing "Marketing" > You're so right - updated! :) (seems some cache is still displaying the old png though) Cheers, -- Thorsten -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/g

Re: [tdf-discuss] The Document Foundation officially incorporated in Berlin, Germany

Florian Effenberger wrote: > New entity has been legally created on February 17th, 2012 > German Stiftung to provide strong and enduring rights for the > LibreOffice community > Hi, based on a version from Mike, http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Organization now has an org chart visualizing t

[tdf-discuss] [ANN] LibreOffice 2012 conference location poll: preliminary results

Dear community, the poll for the LibreOffice 2012 conference closed last night. You can review the full ballot here: https://elections.documentfoundation.org/votes.php?election_id=2 The preliminary result therefore is: Berlin, Germany: 52 Zaragoza, Spain: 36 Invalid votes: 3 Non-voters:

Re: [tdf-discuss] confcall issues gone?

Charles-H. Schulz wrote: > It went well for me but Thorsten sounded like he was in a subway ;-) > Nah, on a platform with (it felt like) 10 freight trains passing by in 20 Minutes... ;) Cheers, -- Thorsten -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? htt

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice 3.5: bug hunting session and new features

Cor Nouws wrote: > All you need is a PC with Windows, MacOS X or Linux, and LibreOffice 3.5 > Beta 1 (which can be downloaded from > http://www.libreoffice.org/pre-releases), plus a lot of enthusiasm. > Beta 2 by now - with less bugs, but presumably still enough to warrant a bug hunting. :) All th

[tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Please do not submit Bug reports concerning 3.5 Beta0

Rainer Bielefeld wrote: > @Thorsten: May be we should delete that from Pre-Release Webpage > immediately. > Deleting it from the mirrors currently, beta1 should be up somewhen tomorrow. Cheers, -- Thorsten -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? htt

Re: [tdf-discuss] overall communication guidelines and reply-to mangling

Regina Henschel wrote: > I see no problem for this steps. That has worked all the time for > our German OOo-lists, so why shouldn't it work for an international > list? Users get a reply from the list moderator which describes what > to do. > Ugh. Citing the late OOo as something that has worked es

Re: [board-discuss] Fwd: Liaison between LO and Calligra project

Michiel Leenaars wrote: > ... but to have a tenacious bulldog appointed within these > projects that makes sure that progress is made even if people are > swamped. > Hi Michiel, sorry, that's not gonna fly here. Participants in this project are often self-directed and volunteers, or employees of

Re: [tdf-discuss] Are we sure not to release 3.4.4-RC3? This is the last release until February and 3.5.0 one!

Carlo Strata wrote: > >That bug is not even fully analysed, let alone fixed yet - so why > >should we even start pondering to delay a release of an otherwise > >improved version? > > You are right, but this one is the only one I read about in these > days and that is a regression... > I'm sure the

Re: [tdf-discuss] Are we sure not to release 3.4.4-RC3? This is the last release until February and 3.5.0 one!

Carlo Strata wrote: > I'm thinking about the one related to object alignment in Calc > (https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37083). > Hi Carlo, did you poke Eike yet, whether he considers the fix safe for 3.4? > , but also the annoying just caught related to Base opening and > immediatel

Re: [tdf-discuss] XAdES digital signature extension

Uwe Altmann wrote: > It should be possible from my point of view that some devs take > the responsibility to check new code to avoid api-breaks. And put > to the conscience of all devs that it should be a top priority to > avoid breaking the API-compatibility (no matter if they are made > in OOO or

Re: [tdf-discuss] user forums ?

Charles-H. Schulz wrote: > Well, it turns out many people seem to want to use forums, and most of > them are not technical, they are end users so I don't expect they have > the same needs as developers. I just assume there's no fundamental truth > in either mailing list or forums usage... > No ide

Re: [tdf-discuss] user forums ?

Marc-André Laverdière wrote: > I think that most people on the mailing list know about stack exchange, and > how rockin' it is. I think it would bee a) cool and b) a boon to our mutual > users to just migrate our forums to stack exchange. > Seems someone else already had that idea: http://area51

Re: [steering-discuss] SC call on 15th

Florian Effenberger wrote: > I propose we adjourn that call, so the next SC call will be on > Wednesday, 19th. > +1 -- Thorsten -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Pos

Re: [tdf-discuss] RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: OASIS Standard ODF 1.2 Approved

Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > From: Marc Paré [mailto:m...@marcpare.com] > > Thanks to all the people who answered this. It seems whether LibreOffice > is partially or completely compliant to "OASIS version 1.2" is more > complicated to establish for non-dev people. > LibO is, like OOo, an exten

Re: [tdf-discuss] Candidacy for a BoD seat - introduction

drew wrote: > Specifically to you however I would like to inquire as to exactly what > daily operations you envision for which your being situated in Germany > will have any meaningful impact? > Hi Drew, thanks for asking! Beyond what Charles mentioned - there will be some tasks, like taxes, snai

[tdf-discuss] Candidacy for a BoD seat - introduction

Hi *, expanding a bit on my brief announcement to steering-discuss@, here's a slightly more verbose introduction of myself and my motivations. Who am I? I'm one of the guys who brought you this funny project (being one of the founding members), and also the hacker to blame for a bunch of Impress

Re: [steering-discuss] Off-topic - please move to discuss@

Hi David, you wrote: > While I'm sure that people understand that the SC can't create > resources (manpower or financial) out of nothing, there is nonetheless > a not-inconsiderable number of people that would like to see the SC > regard Base as an urgent issue for which to try and find *some* > s

Re: [steering-discuss] about today's call

Florian Effenberger wrote: > I will join in two hours, but I will be on the road - in case my > connection drops, can one of the other SC members dial-in with the > manager PIN as well please? > Yep, I'm in as conf manager. Cheers, -- Thorsten -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-di

Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy

Caolan McNamara wrote: > > > Imho quite easy to resolve: use the community logos per default for builds > > > from source. Enable the Logo with TDF tagline on build time and tell > > > people > > > to use this only when doing builds that are supposed to be distributed > > > via TDF resources. > >

Re: [tdf-discuss] Viability of the 3.4.2 Release

Hi there, just picked two mails from this thread more or less randomly, as they show some common pattern: Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: > Given that the release of LibreOffice 3.4.2 is targeted at > enterprise users, I find it surprising that the product is thought > to be ready for release. At leas

Re: [tdf-discuss] ignore m$ legacy?

Jomar Silva wrote: > I support the initial idea of concentrating our work force on better > ODF support and functionality improvements in LO, but I also > understand the need that people have to use LO to manipulate MSO > documents. > I think both is crucial to the success of LibO. Since this dis

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice 3.3.3 binaries for Solaris SPARC and Solaris X86

Karl Behler wrote: > I have been redirected from LibreOffice Forum (DE) to this list. > My question is: Why is LO 3.3.3 not available for Solaris (any)? > Or will it be available at some time? > Hi Karl, every platform LibreOffice ships on needs a team of motivated people, that * regularly buil

Re: Availability of source code (Was: Re: OFF TOPIC about GPL enforcement (Was: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice))

Manfred Usselmann wrote: > > I see a problem here. Usually GNU/Linux distributions make > > modifications to the original source code. That means that the *real* > > source code will be the one from your distro and not the one you can > > download from the LibO website, hence the information will b

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

Allen Pulsifer wrote: > If most or almost all of the LO contributors joined the Apache > OpenOffice project, if only to lend moral support and help heal > the rift, that would only be good for LO and the TdF. > Allen, how can you, with a straight face, ask people here to come over to a different p

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

Allen Pulsifer wrote: > Thorsten Behrens wrote: > > ...you don't discuss e.g. trademark issues on a public list, if you want > to stand a chance actually obtaining it. > > I can see how you might believe this, but I'm not sure it is grounded in > fact or ex

Re: [steering-discuss] Granting authorization to use the TDF logo for the french local association La Mouette

Charles-H. Schulz wrote: > The French Association La Mouette, co-organising the LibreOffice > Conference and representing the french speaking community, is drafting > a pamphlet / brochure to be handed out to some specific audience > (CIOs - CTOs of specific sectors) . La Mouette is asking us the >

Re: [steering-discuss] Joining the OASIS Consortium

Charles-H. Schulz wrote: > I remember we wanted to join the OASIS Consortium :-) > After checking within the OASIS, it appears the annual membership cost > for NGO is around 700 Euros (1100 USD). > Hi Charles, all, wearing my TDF hat here (and not my OASIS one - with that, I'd warmly welcome this

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

Allen Pulsifer wrote: > The seeds of that fork were germinated in the Go-Oo project, which > created patches and enhancements that were not contributed back to > the official OOo distribution. That became a full fork when the > LibreOffice project was started by importing all of the OOo source > c

Re: [tdf-discuss] Enhancement Request: Comment Ranges

Christoph Noack wrote: > Mmh, seems that might be "me" :-) I added this and several other > EasyHacks related to "OOoNotes2" - our activities related to comments at > OpenOffice.org. Search in bugzilla: > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc=OOoNotes2&bug_status

Re: [tdf-discuss] List of supported formats in LibreOffice Draw.

M Henri Day wrote: > Back in February, SVG was added to the list of formats natively supported in > LibreOffice Draw. Can anyone help me find a link to a webpage that lists * > all* such formats ? Many thanks !... > Not really polished, but the authoritative source: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/li

Re: [tdf-discuss] Enhancement Request: Comment Ranges

Christoph Noack wrote: > Mmh, I'm CCing Thorsten who may know whether/how this could be turned > into some easy/advanced/serious hack ... Since I'm currently not that > active, I don't really know what the current "hack" status is. Thorsten, > could you please have a look at that? > Hi Chris, all,

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

Jim Jagielski wrote: > I would recommend that TDF make their own determinations... > Hi Jim - I thought we had? The many posts here & on the incubator list should be testament of that. > If people are swayed by what FSF (or anyone else) says without > giving thoughtful and honest consideration for

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

BRM wrote: > Clearly marking the website, signatures, etc. for TDF would probably go a > long > ways in helping to end that conversation. > Since we're now down to debating cosmetics - could we please end the discussion here & all get back to work? TDF will be legally established in due course,

Re: [steering-discuss] proposed bylaws changes

Michael Meeks wrote: > Personally, I'd like to see all such changes posted here for some > sanity checking first along with some justification. We have code review > during code freezes, even more so legalese review. > I agree - David, assuming the previously proposed changes are ok - any fu

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibreOffice Hackfest in Munich

Florian Effenberger wrote: > >Thanks for announcing this. Maybe we should also know if you have to be > >there in person or can you participate remotely? > > the event is planned on-site. Maybe we can get some remote > connection involved, but primarily, it is for hacking at the place > :) > Quit

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: OpenOffice dead and burried?

BRM wrote: > In some cases, the community decision was aligned with the > members, but they stilled didn't take to the decision through the > community but through what they wanted so it the decision seemed > more forced on the community than decided by the community even in > those cases > Hi Ben,

Re: [steering-discuss] Minor incosistencies in our ByLaws

André Schnabel wrote: > All these issues would be quite easy to fix (imho). We just need to agree ;) > (I can write the suggestions after some time of disussion and then call for > a vote.) > +1 - thx for fixing! Cheers, -- Thorsten -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...

Re: [steering-discuss] poll on next SC confcall

Florian Effenberger wrote: > you all know how it works... :-) Here's the poll for the next SC confcall: > > http://www.doodle.com/psis3q75u3xrvbh8?newDesign=true > Gonna be a bit tough - many folks will be at FOSDEM starting Friday - maybe have 1-2 days of next week, too? Cheers, -- Thorsten -

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

Larry Gusaas wrote: > >They will instead see an 'office suite' that > >doesn't support the formats they have and will go "Well thats USELESS" and > >delete it from their system and install an office suite which DOES have > >support, > > MS Office still can read and write to .doc format. LibO abili

Re: [tdf-discuss] After having joined OIN...

Carlo Strata wrote: > After having joined OIN, two next good steps may be join: > > - http://www.oasis-open.org/about/contributors.php > Hi Carlo, this unfortunately incurs annual costs, so it would have to wait until the financial situation has solidified. Meanwhile, there are individual members

Re: [tdf-discuss] [QA] Lib ò 3.3b3 - Impress freezes opening these files

Carlo Strata wrote: > This is the vanilla issue > http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=115761 > Hi Carlo, this is fixed in OOo meanwhile, and we've just merged the relevant changes for libreoffice as well. Thanks for pointing that out! Cheers, -- Thorsten -- Unsubscribe instructio

Re: [tdf-discuss] Content of Beta3 Windows Install-Packages

Andrea Pescetti wrote: > but probably they are just symlinks on mirrors, not taking any > additional space. > Indeed. -- Thorsten -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are pu

Re: [tdf-discuss] Content of Beta3 Windows Install-Packages

Christian Lohmaier wrote: > > * What is the meaning of BrOffice_3.3.0_Win_x86_install_multi.exe ? > > (By md5 it seems to be identical to > > LibO_3.3.0_Win_x86_install_multi.exe) > > Brazilian version has traditionally (i.e. OOo-times) been a different > package/has not been called OpenOffice.org

Re: [tdf-discuss] Libreoffice 3.3 Beta 3

Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote: > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31695 > For me LibO crashes only if I dock on the right edge of the window. No > problem on the left edge. > Yap, Andre told me independently on Tuesday - should be fixed with commit cce6be23d70e5d8911fc54dfc4c04a07097caf14

Re: [tdf-discuss] Problems with DEB files

Andy Brown wrote: > Is anyone besides me having a problem opening the DEB archives for > Beta 3? I keep getting an error tar: This does not look like a tar > archive. Any suggestions? Where can I find the MD5 for the files? > Hi Andy, just click on the little "details" link - then e.g. this p

Re: [steering-discuss] Community bylaws

Charles-H. Schulz wrote: > > possible solution: sponsor's paid developers shouldn't participate in > > ESC as *single* persons. Contributions in their free time and > > following cooptation in ESC should be carefully evaluated from BoD or > > Membership Committee. > > Hmm, I think it's a bit unfa

Re: [tdf-discuss] FreeDesktop Bugzilla

Sebastian Spaeth wrote: > I envision a *simple* web app which allows me to > > a) upload an .odt, .doc, or .docx document and > b) chose whether it causes 1) crashes or 2) document conversion problems > c) allow to add a comment (it crashes for this document, but only when > using font X) > d) opt

Re: [tdf-discuss] On the Future of TDF

Gianluca Turconi wrote: > However, I've heard and read several comments about this matter and > I'd like to see a (somehow) official statement that confirms LibO > will be a multiplatform software *forever*. > Hi Gianluca, asking for a *forever* promise is maybe a bit too much - but rest assured

Re: [tdf-discuss] FreeDesktop Bugzilla

Christoph Noack wrote: > The interpretation leads to the following: "Many people reports bugs for > one time, only. They are usually less capable of providing more > information to developers - or better: the developers have to take care > to get these information. On the other hand, few people rep

Re: [tdf-discuss] New Beta or RC soon?

Robert Boehm wrote: > HI alljust wondering what the PLAN is before final release of LO 3.3.0. > Hi Robert, we've branched off the 3.3 code line on Monday, expect new binaries soon. Cheers, -- Thorsten -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guideli

Re: [tdf-discuss] Copyright Assignments & the Document Foundation

Gianluca Turconi wrote: > However, what it works it isn't always the best *legal* solution. > Hi Gianluca, oh, I certainly agree on this. As usual, the challenge is to hit the sweet spot, between attracting developers, and satisfying other requirements. Cheers, -- Thorsten -- Unsubscribe inst

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO document format: strict ODF or extended ODF?

Gianluca Turconi wrote: > Il 01/11/2010 23.51, Thorsten Behrens ha scritto: > >So I guess moving on& extending ODF is a feature, not a bug - of > >course, for those who need it, you want a "strict mode" (which we > >have). > > Extending ODF *in agreem

Re: [tdf-discuss] Copyright Assignments & the Document Foundation

Gianluca Turconi wrote: > I've already suggested that if the copyright assignment is > considered a too heavy burden, it should be asked to the contributor > at least a statement that clearly affirms his/her absolute copyright > rights for the contribution (nobody else can claim nothing about the >

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO document format: strict ODF or extended ODF?

Gianluca Turconi wrote: > IMO, it isn't only a question about "better defaults", but a real > turning point for LibO. > > I'll try to clarify my point of view. > > Let's say that by the time ODF 1.2 will be out, every feature > currently supported from LibO will be in ODF specification too. That

Re: [tdf-discuss] Copyright Assignments & the Document Foundation

BRM wrote: > The Linux Kernel guys don't require it; KDE E.v. does. Both methods have > their > pros and cons. > Hi, just a very small correction here - KDE e.V. does not require it, it is optional to sign their FLA (a trait shared among other FLOSS projects, e.g. the Python Foundation acts simi

Re: [tdf-discuss] Who is Funding LibO?

Harold Fuchs wrote: > Everyone, but possibly especially the user community, needs to be > reassured as far as is possible that if they commit to LibreOffice > they will be moving to a viable product and not just a flash in > the pan which will die from lack of funds in six months or a year. > For i

Re: [tdf-discuss] [SC] How to define "Membership" within TDF?

Gianluca Turconi wrote: > >>Hypothetical example: Google Corp. develops a large chunk of code for > >>LibreOffice. It's an important contribution, of course, and Google would > >>belong to the wider LibO community, but is this big contribution > >>enough to > >>join the steering group of TDF? > > >

Re: [tdf-discuss] Vector/Raster Graphics Editing (was: UI proposal)

Hi Ivan, you wrote: > Good question. Can anyone chime in regarding the storage of raster > graphics in the SVG format (i.e., how efficient is it?) > It being xml, you either embed them via some base64-encoding (gets large easily), or just reference them (ends up in having more than one file to se

Re: [tdf-discuss] QA Infrastructure

Caio Tiago Oliveira wrote: > Integrating without testing could be dangerous and for a few people > testing every branch (CWS) it would be boring. We can leave this > discussion for latter, but for now testtool is not one of the most > important things on QA, since we can test everything manually. >

  1   2   >