[tdf-discuss] Re: The Floppy icon and meritocracy

2012-02-11 Thread Pedro
Hi Vladimir v_2e wrote > > But the screenshot I gave a link to is a screenshot of LibreOffice > 3.5.0 RC2 (if I'm remember correctly). In any case, it certainly is the > 3.5-branch. And this theme was there when I upgraded from 3.4.x to > 3.5.0 for the first time. Doesn't it mean that this the

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: The Floppy icon and meritocracy

2012-02-11 Thread v_2e
Hello! On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:39:16 -0800 (PST) Pedro wrote: > > That is the Galaxy theme from version 3.3.x and 3.4.x (which > curiously is the only theme included in LibreOfficePortable 3.3.x and > 3.4.x) > Oh, so it is called "Galaxy". Thanks for the tip. I thought (for some unknown reas

[tdf-discuss] Re: The Floppy icon and meritocracy

2012-02-10 Thread NoOp
On 02/10/2012 05:44 AM, 1920...@googlemail.com wrote: >> The freedesktop.org Icon Theme Specification defines a 'document-save' >> icon as: "document-save The icon for the save action. Should be an arrow >> pointing down and toward a hard disk." >>

[tdf-discuss] Re: The Floppy icon and meritocracy

2012-02-10 Thread Pedro
v_2e wrote > > I like this set of Icons I have in LibreOffice right now: > http://wombat.org.ua/LibreOffice-icons.png > and I hope it will be possible to use them in future versions of > LibreOffice. Will it? > That is the Galaxy theme from version 3.3.x and 3.4.x (which curiously is th

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: The Floppy icon and meritocracy

2012-02-10 Thread v_2e
Hello! On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 14:46:47 -0800 (PST) Pedro wrote: > > I already have the floppy :) and I don't particularly like the Galaxy > theme. Thank you anyway for the suggestion! > I like this set of Icons I have in LibreOffice right now: http://wombat.org.ua/LibreOffice-icons.png

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: The Floppy icon and meritocracy

2012-02-10 Thread 1920119
> The freedesktop.org Icon Theme Specification defines a 'document-save' > icon as: "document-save The icon for the save action. Should be an arrow > pointing down and toward a hard disk." > > The new LO "Tango" theme

[tdf-discuss] Re: The Floppy icon and meritocracy

2012-02-09 Thread Pedro
Hi NoOp NoOp wrote > > What distrurbs me is that the new LO "Tango" icons do not follow the > standard base Tango theme. As I pointed out in the other thread: > ; > Probably because someone hardcoded somewhere a list of the

[tdf-discuss] Re: The Floppy icon and meritocracy

2012-02-09 Thread NoOp
On 02/08/2012 06:17 AM, Pedro wrote: ... > In any case I managed to hack the Tango theme and replace the new icons with > the old ones (BTW someone forgot to update the saveastemplate icons in the > new Theme ;) ) > > You can't use your old tango theme from 3.4.x because the folder structure > has

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: The Floppy icon and meritocracy

2012-02-08 Thread Sveinn í Felli
Þann mið 8.feb 2012 18:50, skrifaði sophie: On 08/02/2012 19:41, Pedro wrote: Sophie Gautier wrote the size of our community makes it very difficult to manage the feedback from our users That is exactly what I said :) I accept that it is difficult to have democracy in such a large community.

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: The Floppy icon and meritocracy

2012-02-08 Thread sophie
On 08/02/2012 19:41, Pedro wrote: Sophie Gautier wrote the size of our community makes it very difficult to manage the feedback from our users That is exactly what I said :) I accept that it is difficult to have democracy in such a large community. My argument is that FOSS is not inherently in

[tdf-discuss] Re: The Floppy icon and meritocracy

2012-02-08 Thread Pedro
Sophie Gautier wrote > > the size of our community makes it very difficult to manage the feedback > from our users That is exactly what I said :) I accept that it is difficult to have democracy in such a large community. My argument is that FOSS is not inherently incompatible with democracy, co

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: The Floppy icon and meritocracy

2012-02-08 Thread sophie
Hi Pedro, On 08/02/2012 18:37, Pedro wrote: Charles-H.Schulz wrote You have similar polls in supermarkets. But supermarkets are no democracies. Really? Supermarkets make polls for products they do not wish to sell? And they do accept the shopper's decision? I have never seen such a supermarket

[tdf-discuss] Re: The Floppy icon and meritocracy

2012-02-08 Thread Pedro
Charles-H.Schulz wrote > > You have similar polls in supermarkets. But supermarkets are no > democracies. > Really? Supermarkets make polls for products they do not wish to sell? And they do accept the shopper's decision? I have never seen such a supermarket! Anyway even if the developers aren

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: The Floppy icon and meritocracy

2012-02-08 Thread Davide Dozza
On 08/02/2012 18:04, Pedro wrote: I'm not arguing that all those projects that you pointed do not follow the same logic (I'm not saying this is a TDF / LO exclusive). I'm just showing you that other FOSS projects can be (and some are!) democratic. FLOSS == Meritocracy Meritocracy != Democrac

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: The Floppy icon and meritocracy

2012-02-08 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Le Wed, 8 Feb 2012 09:04:34 -0800 (PST), Pedro a écrit : > Hi again Charles > > > Charles-H.Schulz wrote > > > > What this thread says -and I took the time not to just look at > > the thread but at the other areas of the project as well- is that > > developers listen to user feedback. And that

[tdf-discuss] Re: The Floppy icon and meritocracy

2012-02-08 Thread Pedro
Hi again Charles Charles-H.Schulz wrote > > What this thread says -and I took the time not to just look at > the thread but at the other areas of the project as well- is that > developers listen to user feedback. And that's probably a good thing to > do although some people might disagree (cf. H

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: The Floppy icon and meritocracy

2012-02-08 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hi again, I forgot the links... Le Wed, 8 Feb 2012 16:58:17 +0100, "Charles-H. Schulz" a écrit : --- SNIP http://www.debian.org http://www.fedora-project.org http://www.opensuse.org http://www.claws-mail.org http://www.drupal.org http://www.django.org http://www.archlinux.org http://www.h

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: The Floppy icon and meritocracy

2012-02-08 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello Pedro, Le Wed, 8 Feb 2012 06:47:05 -0800 (PST), Pedro a écrit : > Hi again Charles > > > Charles-H.Schulz wrote > > > > Do you have examples? I'd be happy to hear about them, I'm sure we > > work in a very similar fashion... > > > > Of course. Here is an excellent one > http://emerged

[tdf-discuss] Re: The Floppy icon and meritocracy

2012-02-08 Thread Pedro
Hi again Charles Charles-H.Schulz wrote > > Do you have examples? I'd be happy to hear about them, I'm sure we work > in a very similar fashion... > Of course. Here is an excellent one http://emergedesktop.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1419 You don't work in a similar fashion ;) Regards, Pedro

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: The Floppy icon and meritocracy

2012-02-08 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello Pedro, Le Wed, 8 Feb 2012 06:17:10 -0800 (PST), Pedro a écrit : > > Charles-H.Schulz wrote > > > > This being said and at the > > risk of sounding evil and stubborn: FOSS has never been about > > demoracy. It's limited democracy at best, that is, democracy > > narrowed to a very defined

[tdf-discuss] Re: The Floppy icon and meritocracy

2012-02-08 Thread Pedro
Charles-H.Schulz wrote > > This being said and at the > risk of sounding evil and stubborn: FOSS has never been about demoracy. > It's limited democracy at best, that is, democracy narrowed to a very > defined set of decisions, with a strong meritocracy making up for most of > everything and *sig