Re: [IxDA Discuss] Tips on "breaking into" IA/ID/UxD industry for recent graduates?

2007-10-30 Thread Morten Hjerde
> > My advice + $1.50 will buy you a cup of coffee. :) > You got some cheap coffee over there :-) This has been thoroughly researched: It takes about 10.000 hours to be really world-class excellent at something. That holds true for pretty much anything you do, be it sports, writing, macrame, robo

[IxDA Discuss] Interaction08 Full Program Announced

2007-10-30 Thread Dan Saffer
The Interaction Design Association (IxDA) is very pleased to announce its full slate of speakers for its first annual conference Interaction08 to be held in hip, historic Savannah, Georgia USA on February 8-10, 2008. The conference will be held on the campus of Savannah College of Art and D

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Alan Cooper on Software Design: Code=Design?

2007-10-30 Thread Alan Cooper
Dmitry, Yes, it is indeed pathetic that I need to "invent a completely new ontology...to justify [my] point." Welcome to the terminology hell that is software. You'll notice that I spend an inordinate amount of words in all of my books and articles clearing out a semantic space where I can ma

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Alan Cooper on Software Design: Code=Design?

2007-10-30 Thread Alan Cooper
Kevin, Anne, Thanks for your comments. I think you get my point. This article has nothing to do with IxD. It surprises me immensely to find readers on THIS list missing the central point of my article. When I refer to "design engineers" I am NOT referring to designers of human-facing form and

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Tips on "breaking into" IA/ID/UxD industry forrecent graduates?

2007-10-30 Thread W Evans
Steven, Jason, and others looking: 1. Fresh out of school, an agency is just not the place to work. Not only would I recommend trying for an inside position - I would try for one in something like a company's marketing department; then as you gain experience, you can begin to insidiously practice g

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Fair Hourly Rate for Usability Test

2007-10-30 Thread Melvin Jay Kumar
Hi Bora, You might want to look at this way. Don't look at the overall cost. Ask them for a breakdown of why it is 160 dollars an hour. >From the breakdown, you can validate where the cost is going. You can then try to see if those areas of the cost, can be taken care by you or your company so

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Tips on "breaking into" IA/ID/UxD industry forrecent graduates?

2007-10-30 Thread Caroline Jarrett
Hi Steve (and others searching for jobs) I had a quick look at your portfolio site, and now I'm going to be honest (but I hope you'll take this as constructive criticism). Let's look at it through the eyes of someone looking for a mid-level designer. My goal: I want someone who can design, for

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Tips on "breaking into" IA/ID/UxD industry for recent graduates?

2007-10-30 Thread Dmitry Nekrasovski
Steven, A development background is not by itself a hindrance to entering the field (many people on this list, myself included, come from one). However, depending on the kind of position you are applying for, it may be more or less relevant. In an agency environment, where ideas/concepts are usual

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Yahoo! Messenger 9.0 beta

2007-10-30 Thread ELISABETH HUBERT
I just watched the demo and overall I think this is really cool. I love the interfaces with Flickr and esp the Forward option that lets users stay connected at all times. The video in the IM window is also pretty cool. As a IM user myself however I don't usually take advantage of the calling and te

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Tips on "breaking into" IA/ID/UxD industry forrecent graduates?

2007-10-30 Thread Robert Reimann
Jason, I think a lot of agencies are interested primarily in hiring senior level talent, because, beyond the raw talent as Dan describes it, there is also a need to be able to communicate with clients, manage time and project work, and coordinate with other team members that usually comes with ind

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Tips on "breaking into" IA/ID/UxD industry for recent graduates?

2007-10-30 Thread Dan Saffer
On Oct 30, 2007, at 4:33 PM, pauric wrote: > You've got Dan Saffer on the line giving > you advice if you hadnt noticed! My advice + $1.50 will buy you a cup of coffee. :) > > I believe Dan Saffer has said in the past that you shouldnt 'work > for free' to fill out your portfolio (correct me)

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Tips on "breaking into" IA/ID/UxD industry for recent graduates?

2007-10-30 Thread pauric
Dan: "Your portfolio has to say: I am a person with good ideas and skills you can use." Jason, have you thought about complimenting your portfolio with a blog? Something that's going to demonstrate the kind of thinking that Dan refers to. Also, take my advice with a pinch of salt as I've worked a

[IxDA Discuss] Alan Cooper on Software Design: Code=Design?

2007-10-30 Thread Nasir Barday
Most people in software don't know what User Experience Design truly is, let alone Interaction Design. Heck, my friend's boss is *just* starting to accept that she's a "User Experience Designer" and not "The Usability Person" (that happened, um, today-- we're celebrating with cake ...). We've talk

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Alan Cooper on Software Design: Code=Design?

2007-10-30 Thread Dmitry Nekrasovski
That would be http://www.frogreview.com/ Dmitry On 10/30/07, Nasir Barday <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I haven't heard of such a resource, but this sounds like a great initiative > we could undertake as an organization: A forum for critiques of our own > output and of products that currently exi

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Tips on "breaking into" IA/ID/UxD industry for recent graduates?

2007-10-30 Thread Dan Saffer
On Oct 30, 2007, at 10:53 AM, Jason Barbarich wrote: > is there anything in particular you look for > when you see a potential junior IA/ID/UxD? Should we all have some > sort of > crucial skill on lock? Is there something that NEEDS to be in our > sparsely > populated portfolio? Or is it rea

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Tips on "breaking into" IA/ID/UxD industry forrecent graduates?

2007-10-30 Thread Harvinder
Try adapting the intern route or doing a Masters. Harvinder Singh 210-614-4198 O 210-884-1311 C [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.bestica.com Bridging the Usability Talent Gap -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Pautz Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Alan Cooper on Software Design: Code=Design?

2007-10-30 Thread Kevin Silver
Thanks Anne, you hit nail on the head. This is how I read the article and I can from personal experience relate to Coopers sentiments. I think there is a distinction between designing how something should work and then designing how you should build it. Cooper refers to the latter as Desig

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Application design in health care domain

2007-10-30 Thread Juhan Sonin
Pooja, Your inspiration will come from outside the Health industry. 90% of US Healthcare is 10 years behind the technology and design curve... and backwards (i.e. not patient-centric). Giant issue in the HC-space: there is zero data interoperability (for example no CCD/CCR/C32 validation or data

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Tips on "breaking into" IA/ID/UxD industry for recent graduates?

2007-10-30 Thread Steven Pautz
I'm also trying to "break into" the field. I've haven't been searching nearly as long, but I'm having some similar experiences. For my portfolio, I left out nearly everything I did as coursework, except for one "ooh, shiny" project, but the remainder of my work was either school-contexted (extracu

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Alan Cooper on Software Design: Code=Design?

2007-10-30 Thread Nasir Barday
I haven't heard of such a resource, but this sounds like a great initiative we could undertake as an organization: A forum for critiques of our own output and of products that currently exist. Now that I think of it, I remember someone posting a link to a Flash movie of two "design-minded frogs" c

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Alan Cooper on Software Design: Code=Design?

2007-10-30 Thread gb
Coming from a motion graphics "design" & production background and being relatively new to the software realm and the concept of IxD . Which I partially find annoying to have yet another term born into the world that uses the word "Design" in it and always ends up getting everyone in trouble. (b

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Tips on "breaking into" IA/ID/UxD industry for recent graduates?

2007-10-30 Thread Jennifer Berk
On 10/30/07, Jason Barbarich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > members have mentioned that they are taxed with the job of reading resumes > and interviewing applicants - is there anything in particular you look for > when you see a potential junior IA/ID/UxD? Should we all have some sort of > crucial sk

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rich Media question

2007-10-30 Thread Reinier Butot
I second that After Effects is used. From what i've experienced using the program the effects used are all available in AE, but i'm not sure how they did the writing in the form at the beginning though... but it doesn't look like a movie, just a screenshot that is animated. . . . . . . . . . . .

[IxDA Discuss] When those who know little about Usability offer Usability Services

2007-10-30 Thread Adam Connor
In the past few months I've run into quite a few designers, studios, developers, etc. who have begun offering Usability services to their clients. However after talking to them for a while it becomes clear that they really don't know what Usability is (they've never conducted a usability test,

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Fair Hourly Rate for Usability Test

2007-10-30 Thread Barbara Ballard
Hi Bora, In my experience, there are three factors driving hourly cost for tests: - facility and travel costs - expertise level - mobile frequently costs more because there's a bit of specialized expertise necessary - where the consulting firm is located We, for example, charge a premium due to o

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rich Media question

2007-10-30 Thread Michael Lisboa
The hard way: 1) take fully designed photoshop files and rotate and perspective transform the image(s) or toss them into a 3D modeling app. 2) import into a video editing app-- or flash -- and do your zooms, pans and scans using the timeline and export to flash video. The *really* easy way (

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Alan Cooper on Software Design: Code=Design?

2007-10-30 Thread David Malouf
ACtually Rich, I think you are overreaching the advances of IxD and UX for most programmers. Let's give a taste. When I was interviewing for the UX Evangelist position @ MS I learned a few things about reality. 1. There are some 20-25 million MS developers worldwide. That is ONLY MS developers. T

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rich Media question

2007-10-30 Thread Mike Hickman
Mike, The video is pushed through Flash, which has been pointed at before. But with the more complex camera movement; the change of aspect combined with a pan; I would guess they took static screenshots and animated them in After Effects or another compositing package. A good AE guy could've run

Re: [IxDA Discuss] IA Summit 2008 %u2013 Call for Papers Deadline Reminder

2007-10-30 Thread Josh Seiden
[ Moderator's note: Posted on behalf of Richard Dalton.] To give submitters a little more time over the weekend we've extended the deadline for all types of papers (except research papers, which remains 11/30) to midnight (EST) on Sunday 11/4. Richard 2008 IA Summit Chair . . . . . . . . .

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Alan Cooper on Software Design: Code=Design?

2007-10-30 Thread Rich Rogan
Note I think Cooper has some great ideas, and has really aided me and this community, he is not perfect, and this latest article just seems old news, and of little relevance to my situation. Regarding Anne's comment: "I'm confused that his essay is being interpreted as an attack on interaction des

[IxDA Discuss] Job/Sr. UX Lead/Boulder, CO/Recruiter/Full-time

2007-10-30 Thread Jonathan Ballard
Hi- This position has the primary responsibility of overseeing all tasks associated with the User Experience team including strategic design, usability testing, tactical design, and associated management efforts. Your role combines oversight of the user experience of a consumer Web application

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Alan Cooper on Software Design: Code=Design?

2007-10-30 Thread Anne Hjortshoj
IMO, "Design engineer" does not equal "designer" in this article. Cooper is describing well-designed code, not well-designed interfaces. I'm confused that his essay is being interpreted as an attack on interaction design. He states very clearly in his essay that he's not talking about this -- he's

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rich Media question

2007-10-30 Thread Matthew Nish-Lapidus
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "how the video on this page was done" I'm sure you already know it's Flash video. As for the content of the video itself, it looks like they just had an animator do some simple 3D stuff with screenshots, mouse pointers, and screen capture vids. Pre

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rich Media question

2007-10-30 Thread Ari Feldman
it looks like it is. camtasia, captivate and snap x all make videos of your screen and provide various means of adding annotations. this looks like a professionally made video using elements of a real or even simulated desktop. On 10/30/07, Mike Scarpiello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Can anyone

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Tips on "breaking into" IA/ID/UxD industry forrecent graduates?

2007-10-30 Thread Kristen Johansen
I often get applicants fresh out of school and I'm always disappointed when their portfolio consists entirely of homework assignments. To me, anyway, that's an indicator that they didn't have enough interest or ambition in their field to do at least a few freelance projects (who doesn't have a cou

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Alan Cooper on Software Design: Code=Design?

2007-10-30 Thread Mark Schraad
When I was a young art director I used to hire folks to operate a camera and record my vision. As I got more experienced, and my budgets grew, I began to hire photographers with great skill and hand over my very vague vision for them to run with. I think any profession can be broken down to 'pr

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Alan Cooper on Software Design: Code=Design?

2007-10-30 Thread Katie Albers
As far as I can tell, you're comfortable with Cooper's division of engineers -- although you're accustomed to different terminology...so let's pass over that. It seems that you believe that there once was a tendency for builders to start building before the underlying work of the designer was i

[IxDA Discuss] Fair Hourly Rate for Usability Test

2007-10-30 Thread Bora Ultas
Hello all. I am new to this list, but I wanted to get some people's opinion. I received an SOW from a usability firm in San Francisco for user testing on a mobile device. They want to charge $160 per hour for their consulting time and some material costs. This seems like a very high rate, but I hav

[IxDA Discuss] Tips on "breaking into" IA/ID/UxD industry for recent graduates?

2007-10-30 Thread Jason Barbarich
First time I've actually created my own message here, just wanted to preface it by saying thanks so much to all the users who make the IxDA list as awesome as it is (which is very awesome). Anyway, I graduated from the School of Communication, Information and Library Studies (SCILS) at Rutgers Univ

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Data Visualisation

2007-10-30 Thread Sarah J. Geitz
Here's another visualization link of interest: http://prefuse.org/ AND it looks like they just (last week) posted an alpha release of "flare" http://flare.prefuse.org/ (Prefuse for Flash) on Sourceforge - http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=98962 Sarah Geitz, Senior Design Ma

[IxDA Discuss] Rich Media question

2007-10-30 Thread Mike Scarpiello
Can anyone explain how the video on this page was done? I use Camtasia and Abobe Captivate now to make web demos and training materials, but this one kinda looks like a video of a video. Thanks. http://www.restaurant.com/ *Come to

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Alan Cooper on Software Design: Code=Design?

2007-10-30 Thread Dmitry Nekrasovski
Amen Rich. While reading this article, I've tried very had to understand why Alan has gone to the lengths of inventing a completely new ontology of software development to justify his point. The only reason I can think of is that, to a person who is not familiar with basic principles of software

Re: [IxDA Discuss] IxDA Toronto

2007-10-30 Thread Parth Upadhye
It seems like I completely fell off the planet... but here's the format I would like to introduce tonight at our first F2F. 1. Every F2F will have a topic. I have already proposed one for tonight. 2. Every attendee will get to speak towards the topic as part of creating a dialogue with the group.

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Alan Cooper on Software Design: Code=Design?

2007-10-30 Thread Rich Rogan
In Coopers article he seems to "Jump the Shark", (makes assumptions that have little relevance to most companies I've worked for), when he writes: "Of course you can see how both of these problems, (engineers don't know how/can't follow design), would stem from the same root: if a programmer has n

[IxDA Discuss] Yahoo! Messenger 9.0 beta

2007-10-30 Thread David Cortright
http://beta.messenger.yahoo.com/ I'm proud of this one. I worked with a great PM who believed in the design vision. Some of 1. Focus on friends. the friends list is once again the primary focus of the main window. bigger display images, more room for status messages, and a contextual too

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Application design in health care domain

2007-10-30 Thread Rich Rogan
I worked with United Health Group/Ingenix on their billing/claims adjudification software, which delt with identifying and matching proceedures and modifiers, with contractual obligations, inorder to identify payment discrepencies. Ingenix is the leading source of medical procedure codes and their

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Application design in health care domain

2007-10-30 Thread Ty Hatch
Haven't done any application design, but am working on a project for customers/patients. The biggest challenge to me isn't the design requirements, it's getting buy-in from the decision makers as they're under a super tight budget with pressure from the top to deliver by a set date. Sadly,

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Application design in health care domain

2007-10-30 Thread Margaret Hanley
Susan Webber from LBi in the UK did a great presentation on the user research and design of the Map of Medicine for mobiles (MobileMap) at Euro IA. Her presentation isn't up on the web site, but I am sure that she would be willing to discuss her findings with you directly. http://www.euroia.org

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Application design in health care domain

2007-10-30 Thread Grady Kelly
Pooja, I was a designer in the Health Care industry for three and a half years, with two different medical companies. One of which provided an EMR (Electronic Medical Record) applciation, and a PHR (Personal Health Record). The other provided applications to Physicians that facilitated the viewi

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Alan Cooper on Software Design: Code=Design?

2007-10-30 Thread gb
The interesting thing I get out of the article is making the distinction between programmers who like to design and programmers who like to build . Many times in my experience there are different ego's involved when working on a project sometimes they clash and it's detrimental to the project. Some

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Data Visualisation

2007-10-30 Thread Al Matthews
re: Processing and the O'Reilly book: It will also be of interest to some to link Ben's PhD thesis, from Media Lab, on this topic. http://benfry.com/ (see 25 Aug 05) -- Al Matthews http://fatmilk.tv . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Alan Cooper on Software Design: Code=Design?

2007-10-30 Thread Parth Upadhye
I found this article an excellent read - almost like a loose manifesto. I have not read his books but this article has some great gems. >> Software is the only medium where the construction materials are entirely the same as the design materials: source code. For some, as David put it, it is Pho

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Application design in health care domain

2007-10-30 Thread David Malouf
Microsoft has developed what they call a Clinical UI guidelines document. Here is an article about it: http://www.examiner.com/p-37868~Microsoft_Helps_Developers_of_Clinical_User_Interfaces_Improve_Efficiency__Patient_Safety_With_Free_Toolkit.html Enjoy! Otherwise I believe that healthcare is o

[IxDA Discuss] Application design in health care domain

2007-10-30 Thread pooja
Hi All, Does any member have designed the application for hospital or related health care fields? Is there any Samples or Guidelines available for health care domain? What are the major attributes or details which have to be kept in attention while designing? Any example available which ha