I want to take a moment to calm down and apologize.
I'm sorry to the community and to the board. I guess I had a bee in
my bonnet.
I'm glad that this discussion is going to push things into a more
transparent mode, but any transparency can only exist in a community
of trust and I apologize for br
Here here!
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 1, 2008, at 6:10 PM, Elizabeth Bacon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Dear heavens.
OK, guys, if we're going to "out" ourselves...I will reveal that I
fundamentally don't believe a crowdsourcing model for DESIGN is even
possible, much less advisable.
I
Wow. Way to sneak political bias into an IxDA discussion. I'm sure all
of those pitch fork wielding peasants at the Palin rallies would totally
agree with this point. Although I'm not a big Palin fan myself, I highly
doubt that Palin supporters think of themselves as mobs and of Obama
supporters as
Yikes, acrimony and emotions running high in this thread.
In talking about the challenges with this method, I wasn't clear about my
thoughts on the rest of the picture:
- We have a set of requirements that is fairly unique to a Community of
Practice
- Packages exist that can cover *most* of our wi
A few thoughts:
Jeff, nice try trying to help the board save face, but besides the
money for the visual design, to say that it was really anything but
all you for the last 2 years, would be changing humility, to down
right revisionism. Yes, the board "supports you", but heck, they
really don't have
There are a ton of other things that could probably stand alone as
individual projects for people who are interested in contributing to
the growth of the website. An IxDA job board, booklist, redesigned
search, and new thread posting are a few of the things that come to
mind offhand. These things n
Dave,
Thanks for your inputs. Some more background The board retreat was
an extremely important checkpoint to refine our scope and reach some
agreement on what we could achieve in the near term. We only finished
the requirements last week, after a final round of review with key
local
Liz here is what I want to see before the end of the year from the board
before giving up the idea of opening this up, and having the board
relinquish control over the project (but not leadership/stewardship).
I want to see an RFP. I have suggested this privately to the board through
Nasir and the
Dear heavens.
OK, guys, if we're going to "out" ourselves...I will reveal that I
fundamentally don't believe a crowdsourcing model for DESIGN is even
possible, much less advisable.
I believe that crowdsourcing can be helpful to garner ideas (e.g. that
wepc thing at the top of this thread)
Nasir - the key difference that Andrew Hyde (who I am learning to
like), makes is that there is a big difference between crowdsourcing
for a volunteer effort - and one where a third party get's involved
and makes a profit. In our case - this is volunteer work to make our
community platform better b
Hello David,
if I can be of any assistance I would want to help out also. I dont
know what my role can be exactly but I am willing to do my best.
Ali
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Nasir, great thoughts!!!
An example I've been following with great interest us the work Leisa
Reichtl is doing for drupal.org. Her blog has been filled with great
stuff. Disambiguity is the name of her blog.
Dell, & starbucks have been doing great work in this arena.
- dave
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I am all in, in any way I can help - I will do grunt work, sketch,
wireframe, prototype - whatever.
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 8:25 PM, David Malouf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The board does have requirement documents and even some wireframes. Good
> stuff!
> But the board will not be able to "do"
The board does have requirement documents and even some wireframes. Good
stuff!
But the board will not be able to "do" this work themselves, nor should
they, as the work should come from the community, steered by the board. They
have a lot of material in place, waiting for the right people to step
Okay, time to out ourselves :-). I'm the lead designer/architect for the new
infrastructre initiative. Right now we have deliverables at all levels, from
personas down to page mockups. There are obviously lots of lines to color in
between, but at the moment we've focused on events management/calend
Googling around, here's a contrarian view of crowdsourcing as applied to
(graphic) design:
http://andrewhyde.net/spec-work-is-evil-why-i-hate-crowdspring/
Scroll down for a scalding message from our analog for graphic designers,
the AIGA. Does crowdsourcing for the creative world diminish the valu
Hi folks,
Yes, Will is correct! The IxDA Board is actively working on providing
improved infrastructure for IxDA.org so that we can better support our
community and pursue our mission of making the world a better place to
be.
I am project manager of this initiative and of course have been
workin
Dave,
Can we save this email for a bit b/c I think it's a huge deal that requires
a full time dedicated group of people to at least stear it over the next
year. Even if many of the problems can be broken down into simple problems,
stemming from objectives and goals - those parts should have a cham
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the board currently working on all this
right now?
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 4:11 PM, David Malouf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The board for the last 3 years has defined the problem of how to create a
> vibrant, valuable and effective community of practice. We've
The board for the last 3 years has defined the problem of how to create a
vibrant, valuable and effective community of practice. We've looked at
existing solutions and when we map them against our requirements and
resources they all come up very short. So let me go from vague to more
specific.
We
Hello Jeff,
yes I agree. Getting 8,500 people switched to a new system is going
to be hard. I myself was a member of a discussion group back in 1999
and used mIRC. The admins decided to switch to a forum 3 years later.
2000 members switched over. Now the forum has 12,792 members.
My point is that
On Oct 31, 2008, at 11:28 AM, Will Evans wrote:
Could you define the problem space a little better? I am unsure what
problem
we face and therefore can't think of what solution we might use.
I think that's the problem we should solve: that we don't know what
the problem we solve is.
Thin
Could you define the problem space a little better? I am unsure what problem
we face and therefore can't think of what solution we might use.
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 12:52 PM, David Malouf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why don't we start with a more altruistic project? Let's crowdsource
> the desi
Hi Ali,
The search on ixda.org is terrible; guilty as charged. I've been
toying around with an implementation of Google search for the site,
though it's not ready for prime time.
But as to why it wasn't built as an online forum: the discussion
list actually began life as an e-mail list. The goal
I have been looking into Sourceforge and your idea is great.
We just need to take the next step.
Ali
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Like many design problems, you can't ignore the legacy issues when
designing for the future solutions.
Jeff has done an amazing job, pretty much single-handedly of making
up for the negatives of a pure email system, while maintaining its
advantages.
Jeff Howard FTW (on ixda.org)
-- dave
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Thats a great idea David. I dont understand why ixda.org isnt built up
as an online forum thing... I mean like the pre made forums that only
needs to be activated. I dont know if it is MY computer or my lack of
computer expertise, but at times ixda.org and searching for topics can
be very time cons
Why don't we start with a more altruistic project? Let's crowdsource
the design of the community of practice!
Let's start a Sourceforge site and go! Maybe an OSS corp like
Mozilla will support us. But a design led OSS project could be a HUGE
evangelism effort, as well as produce something we need
Hey Will,
well I was more into making some money I assume Ixda needs some
financial assistance eventhough members donate. But Ixda could really
become a hub for many corporations. So many intelligent people here
with so much experience.
MATSUI is a company that makes DVD players and their remot
Ali,
One idea I have been toying with is based on the old IASlam concept, but
having instead an IxD Slam - but the problem would be for something worthy -
like an all day competition to design something for a non-profit, best
designs pass various rounds, and the winning design is implemented and
h
If you guys noticed my post earlier this week about how/what designers use
to keep, collect, organize their inspirations, designs, etc - I was
tribe-sourcing requirements and specifications from all of you - and I will
be using it for something I am sketching.
Thanks for that guys :-)
BTW: becaus
wow... I just sent Josh an email about crowdsourcing and how it could
benefit ixda.org...
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Welc
What do people feel about crowdsourcing design efforts like the new WePC.com
by ASUS & Intel?
http://www.wepc.com/
-- dave
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