Re: [IxDA Discuss] Password Masking research

2009-07-10 Thread Alan Wexelblat
Forgive me if I'm repeating a point that has been raised before... When considering whether to mask a password I think it's important to remember that there are other situations in which the password can be made to appear other than it being typed in character-by-character. The most common case

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Password Masking research

2009-07-09 Thread Fredrik Matheson
http://lab.arc90.com/2009/07/halfmask.php is an experiment in half-masking passwords. Might be worth looking at. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Password Masking research

2009-07-09 Thread Niklas Mortensen
Some excellent points raised her! Have a look at what i think is the slickest implementation of iphone-style half-masking i've seen yet. http://blog.decaf.de/2009/07/iphone-like-password-fields-using-jquery/ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Password Masking research

2009-07-09 Thread J. Ambrose Little
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 2:20 PM, James Page jamesp...@gmail.com wrote: Has anybody actually done some research into how many people it effects? I find most times I type a wrong password it is not because of a typo, but because it is the wrong password. Masking/Unmasking will not help here.

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Password Masking research

2009-06-25 Thread Justin Maxwell
Lis, This can be done in web browsers by using input type=text instead of type=password and using a timed javascript function bound to the onchange event that passes/appends the most recent character to a hidden form element and replaces it in the visible field with a • character

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Password Masking research

2009-06-25 Thread Danny Hope
2009/6/24 ELISABETH HUBERT ehuber...@gmail.com: In light of Nielsen's new article seen here: http://www.useit.com/alertbox/passwords.html along with other user frustration feedback, my team and I started looking at other solutions to masking passwords on creation. Although I know the simplest

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Password Masking research

2009-06-25 Thread Yohan Creemers
The way masking is done in iPhone originates from the days a phone had a numerical keyboard where you had to press the [9] key four times to get a 'Z'. In that scenario visual feedback was essential. The iPhone solution seems to combine worst of both worlds: users don't get full visual feedback

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Password Masking research

2009-06-25 Thread Yohan Creemers
Danny wrote: Does anyone else suspect that this might be *an issue for browser vendors* not designers? Shouldn't browser vendors have interaction designers in their development team? Designers should not wait for market or technology to improve user experience. - Yohan . . . . . . . . . .

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Password Masking research

2009-06-25 Thread Danny Hope
2009/6/25 Yohan Creemers yo...@ylab.nl: Shouldn't browser vendors have interaction designers in their development team? Designers should not wait for market or technology to improve user experience. Are you saying that this is or is not a browser problem? -- Danny Hope User Experience

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Password Masking research

2009-06-25 Thread Troy Gardner
Curious, I tried playing around with it in Flash. Trickyness is introduced if it's to behave like another textfield supporting selecting, backspace, cutting and pasting. Having to modify the original word via array operations. Also you need a fixed size font to keep the word from jumping aroudn

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Password Masking research

2009-06-25 Thread Joshua Porter
A few months back I was working on a piece about password masking with Josh Viney that touched on many of these issues... Before we were able to publish it, Viget Labs beat us to it. http://www.viget.com/advance/password-fields-are-annoying/ They show several javascript techniques that

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Password Masking research

2009-06-25 Thread ELISABETH HUBERT
Hi all, So far the feedback has been great and extra helpful! I'm liking the show password solution myself as that seems to be a crowd favorite. Def will help to get even more thinking going on my end. Examples and articles are highly appreciated. If anymore thoughts/ideas come your way feel

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Password Masking research

2009-06-25 Thread David Mulder
Thanks for sharing this Nielsen column. It's a topic I have been experimenting with a bit lately (based on my own findings while conducting user research) but had not found answers on. Ultimately I think a solution has to be implemented at the browser level, but as designers we can help inform

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Password Masking research

2009-06-25 Thread Diego Moya
Thinking of this as an information problem instead of a security one, what is needed to solve it is something like the hash codes as used in cryptography. You don't really need to show the *whole* password, just enough information derived from it so that the user will notice if there was an

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Password Masking research

2009-06-25 Thread Justin Maxwell
On Jun 25, 2009, at 4:54 AM, Joshua Porter wrote: One very important issue that Nielsen seems to be glossing over is that one password is often used for many accounts...and so when someone steals a single password they are often getting the keys to the kingdom, so to speak. True. A

[IxDA Discuss] Password Masking research

2009-06-24 Thread ELISABETH HUBERT
Hi all, In light of Nielsen's new article seen here: http://www.useit.com/alertbox/passwords.html along with other user frustration feedback, my team and I started looking at other solutions to masking passwords on creation. Although I know the simplest and best answer is probably not to mask the

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Password Masking research

2009-06-24 Thread Jeff Howard
Hi Elisabeth, I haven't seen this done in a non-mobile web browser natively, but it's possible to reproduce with Javascript (or in Flash with Actionscript) with a bit of effort. Juggling the user input to progressively mask the text seems unwieldy at first glance but it's entirely possible.