dave malouf:
If the Mint out of box, purchasing, installing, etc. experience is
anything like what I went through with Fever, i can't believe that
it is lauded in any way what so ever. It was the convoluted and
scary.
Wait, the install process is scary? You download a zip file, upload
the 3
uh? I had an easier time w/ Wordpress b/c well I have a 1-click
install through my provider. Putting that aside for a moment, your
definition of web app is probably different from mine. But I have
been on a host of SaaS product designs b4 and well SaaS is my model of
Web App (which I know this
Hi all,
Not to offend anyone with a vested interest or solid backing of the product,
but at first glance, I thought it wasn't real.
I think it was the design. The placement of the 'Only $30' next to the
explanation paragraph, and the rest of the design scattershotted across the
page... it just
Ok Andrei, I bought in.
So I'm reviewing it here:
1) I am not a Mint user (I'm not the CFO in my house, so it never
made sense for me), but I've heard amazing things about it.
If the Mint out of box, purchasing, installing, etc. experience is
anything like what I went through with Fever, i
Andrei,
i go to like 5 movies a year (parental reality), so that comparison
is meaningless.
I made a suggestion based on MY! take looking at the video. You never
know if software is a fit until you get to use it. Paying for trial is
not the norm in the software world. If i can try Photoshop for
On Jun 17, 2009, at 11:24 PM, David Malouf wrote:
i go to like 5 movies a year (parental reality), so that comparison
is meaningless.
Empathy? Metaphorical? Are you claiming you are unable to make a
simple comparison? Really?
I made a suggestion based on MY! take looking at the video.
On Jun 18, 2009, at 3:42 AM, Andrei Herasimchuk wrote:
It would be wonderful to actually discuss the product's design
rather than the business model. This is the last I'll bother
discussing the business model instead of the design of the product.
Business model IS part of Design.
Business model is most definitely *not* a part of design (even in ad
supported websites, dare I say...we work closely with business in this case,
but even here business model is not a part of design).
Todd, what's your reasoning?
-Vishal
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 7:58 AM, Todd Zaki Warfel
I swear if this turns into another 'definition of design' thread...
- Alvin
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Vishal Iyer vishaliy...@gmail.com wrote:
Business model is most definitely *not* a part of design (even in ad
supported websites, dare I say...we work closely with business in this
On Jun 18, 2009, at 8:19 AM, Vishal Iyer wrote:
Business model is most definitely *not* a part of design (...)
If you think business model isn't part of the Design, you're kidding
yourself. Great design considers the business model, how you make
money, how you lose money. Without it,
Design decisions should always consider business models (agree). That does
not make business models a part of design. On the contrary, design is a part
of the business model.
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Todd Zaki Warfel li...@toddwarfel.comwrote:
On Jun 18, 2009, at 8:19 AM, Vishal Iyer
eh...this is probably a semantics thing. I don't think we disagree :)
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Vishal Iyer vishaliy...@gmail.com wrote:
Design decisions should always consider business models (agree). That does
not make business models a part of design. On the contrary, design is a
On Jun 18, 2009, at 4:58 AM, Todd Zaki Warfel wrote:
It would be wonderful to actually discuss the product's design
rather than the business model. This is the last I'll bother
discussing the business model instead of the design of the product.
Business model IS part of Design.
I didn't
On Jun 18, 2009, at 6:09 AM, Andrei Herasimchuk wrote:
Shaun's target demo is a very specific type of person, and $30 is a
minor price imho.
Welcome to the world of economics. The market will determine the right
price.
Jared
On Jun 18, 2009, at 1:57 AM, Jared Spool wrote:
Shaun's target demo is a very specific type of person, and $30 is a
minor price imho.
Welcome to the world of economics. The market will determine the
right price.
Agreed. And given he sold Mint for $30 per license, a product based on
On Jun 18, 2009, at 3:42 AM, Andrei Herasimchuk wrote:
Shaun is a sole designer+dev, and there could be a myriad of reasons
why he doesn't offer a demo. Could be he ran out of time on his own
deadline, could be he doesn't know a great way to make it expire
properly, could be he felt the
For those haven't seen it yet, and for those that can use it, I highly
recommend checking out Shaun Inman's Fever, released this morning.
http://feedafever.com/
IMPORTANT NOTE: The application is not a hosted service. To use it,
you have to a web server running and be able to configure it.
I HIGHLY suggest that anyone who knows Shaun ask him to open up his
purchase model to make available a 30-day trial. If like he says this
is like a software model and not a service model (wow! that is so
2001) then I suggest he map against the most common practices.
All the best UI in the world
On Jun 17, 2009, at 9:29 PM, David Malouf wrote:
I HIGHLY suggest that anyone who knows Shaun ask him to open up his
purchase model to make available a 30-day trial. If like he says this
is like a software model and not a service model (wow! that is so
2001) then I suggest he map against the
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