Re: [IxDA Discuss] Shaun Inman\'s Fever

2009-06-20 Thread Andrei Herasimchuk
On Jun 19, 2009, at 7:20 PM, dave malouf wrote: If the Mint out of box, purchasing, installing, etc. experience is anything like what I went through with Fever, i can't believe that it is lauded in any way what so ever. It was the convoluted and scary. I'm not going to defend the installation

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Shaun Inman\'s Fever

2009-06-19 Thread dave malouf
Ok Andrei, I bought in. So I'm reviewing it here: 1) I am not a Mint user (I'm not the CFO in my house, so it never made sense for me), but I've heard amazing things about it. If the Mint out of box, purchasing, installing, etc. experience is anything like what I went through with Fever, i can't

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Shaun Inman\'s Fever

2009-06-19 Thread Andrei Herasimchuk
On Jun 19, 2009, at 12:14 PM, Brian Mila wrote: Having watched the video, it looks really amazing. But, is there some reason for the large amount of whitespace? It seems like it would be more beneficial to give more room to the actual feed content. Perhaps the display was optimized just for

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Shaun Inman\'s Fever

2009-06-19 Thread Brian Mila
Hey can we get back to talking about the design please? Having watched the video, it looks really amazing. But, is there some reason for the large amount of whitespace? It seems like it would be more beneficial to give more room to the actual feed content. Perhaps the display was optimized ju

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Shaun Inman\'s Fever

2009-06-18 Thread Andrei Herasimchuk
On Jun 18, 2009, at 11:28 PM, Justin Maxwell wrote: "don't kid yourself" that being disrespectfully aggressive to strangers on a mailing list facilitates productive discussion. I'm new here. Are you the token list bully? Ask around. I'm sure half of the folks on this list will tell you ye

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Shaun Inman\'s Fever

2009-06-18 Thread Andrei Herasimchuk
On Jun 18, 2009, at 7:20 PM, Dave Malouf wrote: re: the point of the thread ... I can't comment as to what Andrei wants me to. I'd love for people to start talking about that and I will sit and admire the discussion the case study. Two questions: 1) Is your current web blog for Engage serv

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Shaun Inman\'s Fever

2009-06-18 Thread Andrei Herasimchuk
On Jun 18, 2009, at 8:11 PM, Justin Maxwell wrote: If interaction design is the shaping of all actions pertaining to a digital artifact or process, the discussion about Fever must focus on the ways and means by which a customer can acquire knowledge to inform a decision in purchasing the softwa

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Shaun Inman\'s Fever

2009-06-18 Thread Justin Maxwell
If interaction design is the shaping of all actions pertaining to a digital artifact or process, the discussion about Fever must focus on the ways and means by which a customer can acquire knowledge to inform a decision in purchasing the software. It is clear through this discussion, in particular

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Shaun Inman\'s Fever

2009-06-18 Thread Dave Malouf
hmm? a few points: re: Amazon vs. this thread. I was arguing with whether it was "designed", not whether its output led to a design touch point. I was alluding to process as in "traditional design" as opposed to engineering or business methodologies. re: experience design ... I know those referenc

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Shaun Inman\'s Fever

2009-06-18 Thread Jared Spool
On Jun 18, 2009, at 8:48 PM, Dave Malouf wrote: actually, no, I meant "interaction design". What I mean is definitely interaction. As in how I interact with the touch points within the eco-system. (BTW, I think I've established before that I don't really understand "experience design" as anyt

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Shaun Inman\'s Fever

2009-06-18 Thread Dave Malouf
actually, no, I meant "interaction design".What I mean is definitely interaction. As in how I interact with the touch points within the eco-system. (BTW, I think I've established before that I don't really understand "experience design" as anything other than "holistic strategy" & messaging) The "

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Shaun Inman\'s Fever

2009-06-18 Thread Jared Spool
On Jun 18, 2009, at 1:38 AM, dave@gmail.com wrote: Well, for me this isn't "business model". It is the core difference btw UI Design & Interaction Design. Actually, I think you're trying to say it's the difference between interaction design and experience design. One just focuses on the

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Shaun Inman\'s Fever

2009-06-18 Thread Dave . ixd
Well, for me this isn't "business model". It is the core difference btw UI Design & Interaction Design. How I interact with the product in all it's forms is part of the IxD. Your attempt to try & separate them as distinct is a great example of where UI design by itself fails. It is the way most o