This is my last mail on this topic, because it is stupid to go ahead in this
conversation and I don't want to become upset. I want only to highlight that
what you call "social pressure" is simply to listening to the community
thoughts. Community is more than a beautiful picture of people... Than
Jody,
This is a very good point.
(comments continue below...)
On 9/20/17 1:19 PM, Jody Garnett wrote:
On 20 September 2017 at 12:44, Maria Antonia Brovelli
mailto:maria.brove...@polimi.it>> wrote:
Jody this is not respectful of me and the community. Might I know
why the people worki
Maria
It appears that there is a misunderstanding (at best) about the target
audiences of the web site. Our primary objective is to use the new web site as
a tool for outreach to people who are not already committed to using open
source geo. Hence the focus on enabling/encouraging/informing ‘mi
On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 01:19:48PM -0700, Jody Garnett wrote:
> The reason I want to keep the names (don't care about the links) is address
> the needs of non-commuity website visitors. To answer the question "I use
> XXX, how can you help me?"
As I wrote on the ticket already, I like the idea of
Jody this is not respectful of me and the community. Might I know why the
people working for the project want ABSOLUTELY to keep the names and links to
proprietary software on our open source software website?
Anyhow, I think that the Board can express ourselves about this point. I
remember yo
Jody,
Yes, this is a great and truly elemental ^concept^ for how we consider and name
our efforts, so that they might be best appreciated by a welcoming world.
Just for an added alternative, and not to suggest that the discussion shouldn’t
remain software vs projects, but how about the word ‘en
Dear Jody
Personally I agree with Helmut and I don't see any necessity of putting
"similar proprietary software" on our web pages. I don't think proprietary
software need to be advertized. We are a Foundation about Open Software and I
want to see the open source projects on the website that we h
Thanks Maria, and I apologize for getting upset. I would like a chance to
listen to people and determine a course of action together.
--
Jody Garnett
On 20 September 2017 at 12:59, Maria Antonia Brovelli <
maria.brove...@polimi.it> wrote:
> This is my last mail on this topic, because it is stupi
On 20 September 2017 at 12:44, Maria Antonia Brovelli <
maria.brove...@polimi.it> wrote:
> Jody this is not respectful of me and the community. Might I know why the
> people working for the project want ABSOLUTELY to keep the names and links
> to proprietary software on our open source software w
On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 9:46 PM, Jody Garnett wrote:
> Please be respectful of the contributors working on the website/rebranding
> and during the foss4g sprint.
Likewise opinions of community members need to be respected.
No need to solve it today, let's reflect about the various options.
Just
Okay folks this conversation thread is starting to make me upset; we have
gone from a productive discussion and has escalated.
To be clear we have an open bug report, the specific feature is part of the
website template and I do not have the ability to edit it directly. Listing
"migrate from" is o
Maria your request is at odds with the goal of this website.
Already I have private chats about participants being discouraged. I do not
think that using the board to control the process is a productive or
respectful of those working on the project.
Please reconsider how to interactive positively
I like your language that our open source projects are much more than
proprietary software - it is this reason we are focusing on a team photo
for each page (rather than a screen shot of the software).
The original bug report reported a direct link to ESRI which was fixed,
this is where the "adver
Jody, I see very difficult the existence of a vast majority of GIS industry
that has honestly not heard about open source yet. Anyway I refuse the idea of
"similar proprietary software" because our projects are much more than pieces
of code. Behind our software there are communities and limit
Thanks Maria,
I reject the idea that we are advertising proprietary software, so each
time it is phrased that way of course everyone well say "no".
I want to help our software reach visitors that feel locked into
proprietary software, please recognize this goal and how "migrate from" can
help.
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Thanks Tom, you kind of confirm that listing software (program,
application,technology) right direction - even if it hurts my heart.
You are correct that "someone looking to migrate" is the primary audience
of this. Indeed the other email thread has a tradeoff of providing a
"Similar Proprietary P
> I would like to bring to discuss a question that we are struggling with for
> the website/rebranding - do we present "open source software" or "open source
> projects"?
> I am personally having a hard time thinking in terms of software since I like
> the fact that open source project encompasses
I would like to bring to discuss a question that we are struggling with for
the website/rebranding - do we present "open source software" or "open
source projects"?
This is not an easy answer, as the earlier discussion on this list did not
know how to recognize projects doing a rewrite (example OL
Thanks for the discussion on the bug report. Please keep in mind that this
website is written by us, but it is not intended for us - it is intended
for the vast majority of the GIS industry that has honestly not heard about
open source yet.
These sections are optional, if one of our open source pr
Hi,
On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 11:41 AM, Helmut Kudrnovsky wrote:
> Dear OSGeo community
>
> I want to bring you a discussion on a github ticket about linking to
> "similar proprietary products" [1] to your attention.
>
> My comment there:
>
> "I support and concur with Venka that the item "Similar
Dear OSGeo community
I want to bring you a discussion on a github ticket about linking to "similar
proprietary products" [1] to your attention.
My comment there:
"I support and concur with Venka that the item "Similar Proprietary Products"
should be removed. There isn't only one proprietary
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