DaveWr;690615 Wrote:
> The Linn solution is from Linn Engineering - it is part of their Davaar
> software release. It is not third party.
>
I wonder if they have really licensed it, when searching the net and
also the fact that they call it "NetAux" and not AirPlay, it kind of
feels like they h
The Linn solution is from Linn Engineering - it is part of their Davaar
software release. It is not third party.
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more on the d-link boxee - they might have done it in software. it
appears to run on some sort of linux and apparently you can get ssh
access with some effort. they also don't call it AirPlay - they call
it "iOS Streaming." that may say something.
it also in not an expensive device - less than t
bhaagensen;690527 Wrote:
> Are you sure its 3rd party - its prominently featuret on the official
> pages and no mention of 3rf party:
> http://news.linn.co.uk/news/2011/12/songcast-shares-it-all.php
>
I was talking about Boxee, sorry.
And no, I'm not _sure_ there either ;)
>
> Btw. do you have
pippin;690524 Wrote:
> Yes, I believe. And similar addons exist for the SB, too.
>
Are you sure its 3rd party - its prominently featuret on the official
pages and no mention of 3rf party:
http://news.linn.co.uk/news/2011/12/songcast-shares-it-all.php
Btw. do you have the SB (shairport based) v
Mnyb;690518 Wrote:
>
> Or are these third party addons ?
>
Yes. And similar addons exist for the SB, too.
AFAIK, the chipset limitation is that you have to use the very chipset
for which the AirPlay firmware Apple will license you is available.
Maybe Linn just got lucky and did already use tha
IANAL but from what I understand it's probably possible in a closed
device like a Linn but not an open or Linux-based device like ours.
Also there is certainly a huge per-unit Apple licensing fee meaning it
would be unlikely we could add it to existing players for example, even
with no technical l
Neither Linn or Boxee can do it with shairport if they do they will be
in the news for it really soon when apple sues them ?
Or are these third party addons ?
There is some info missing here
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Main hifi: Touch + CIA P
andyg;690510 Wrote:
> And now you see why we cannot include it...
Yes of course its not happening officially and with Shairport. But I
know far from enough to understand why it so definitely could not be
made/negotiated/licensed to happen in a future SB device?
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erland;690066 Wrote:
> But do you need the same device handle it ?
>
Yes Ideally I'd prefer not to double the efforts of my SBs with an
extra ATV/AE for each of my setups.
Technicalities and all other issues aside [real as they may be], what
Airplay does is something many are going to loo
And now you see why we cannot include it...
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DaveWr;690479 Wrote:
> Linn DS devices do it. Software only update. They have no special
> chips as they pre-date Airplay. Indeed a year ago they said they
> wouldn't support it.
>
> http://mafipulation.org/blagoblig/2011/04/08#shairport
Well - as pr. andyg's post, Shairport is 3rd party and
Linn DS devices do it. Software only update. They have no special
chips as they pre-date Airplay. Indeed a year ago they said they
wouldn't support it.
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shaboyi;690036 Wrote:
> >
> > It's not up to Logitech.
> > Google Apple's terms&conditions for AirPlay and you know why it
> won't
> > happen.
>
> i am not a lawyer so i'll skip wading through terms&conditions, but it
> seems odd that so many other hardware devices canis Logitech or
> the S
TheLastMan;690437 Wrote:
> I have a Squeezebox Server setup with Receivers in the kitchen and
> livingroom. However, because all but one member of the household now
> has an iThing of some description, I have rigged up docks on both
> systems so the users can either listen to music via their pod
erland;690072 Wrote:
> It's important to understand that Apple and Logitech(Squeezebox) have
> different approaches to this.
> [Snip very good post]
Correct in every respect, but both systems can co-exist quite happily
provided there are amplifiers in the house with more than one line
level input
reniera;690235 Wrote:
> Personally, i find the radio the perfect speaker for a bedroom.
Same here. I tried the Boom first. Great for getting me up, but too
"boomy" to listen to at night. So the Boom went in the kitchen, and a
Radio replaced it on the nightstand. A much better fit.
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> I know it is on the Google Market, but there are a lot of people with
> the Kindle Fire who do not have access to the market. Yes, I know how
> to root my fire and get access, but my mother-in-law doesn't. It would
> be a great idea to either post the apk directly, or at least add it to
> the A
verypsb;686597 Wrote:
> If I understand correctly, Apple doesn't allow Airplay on devices with
> an open (streaming) OS, like LMS/SqueezePlay.
Airplay is on a lot of DNLA capable devices right now. Besides, there
is nothing that says Logitech won't update LMS to stream to Airplay
devices as wel
DITC101;690206 Wrote:
> I am always wondering why Logitech doesn't offer a speaker only product
> like the Sonos Play 3/5.
> Currently I am looking for something small for my bedroom. The Boom is
> EOL, the Radio is too small and the display isn't really readable from
> 3m away.
For a table-top p
DITC101;690206 Wrote:
> I am always wondering why Logitech doesn't offer a speaker only product
> like the Sonos Play 3/5.
> Currently I am looking for something small for my bedroom. The Boom is
> EOL, the Radio is too small and the display isn't really readable from
> 3m away.
Too small ? Pers
I am always wondering why Logitech doesn't offer a speaker only product
like the Sonos Play 3/5.
Currently I am looking for something small for my bedroom. The Boom is
EOL, the Radio is too small and the display isn't really readable from
3m away.
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I know it is on the Google Market, but there are a lot of people with
the Kindle Fire who do not have access to the market. Yes, I know how
to root my fire and get access, but my mother-in-law doesn't. It would
be a great idea to either post the apk directly, or at least add it to
the Amazon mar
pski;690027 Wrote:
> So this means that Airplay/Apple does not support playing
> one thing to one device and something else to any others.
>
> Add to that the fact you have to use a playlist to pick what is playing
> next.
>
> Stupid is as stupid does.
>
Apple concept is based on that each f
shaboyi;690017 Wrote:
>
> the best way I
> can think of to achieve multi-room/multiple streams with Apple is to
> have multiple Apple TVs and then use Apple Remote App for local music
> (iTunes libraries) and then Airplay for other Apps. Conceptually
> this is not much different from multiple
bhaagensen;690001 Wrote:
>
> But seriously. I love the SB for its advanced functionality, but I
> could certainly make use of easily being able to redirect the sounds
> from my fruits to the stereo. British hi-fi's such as Naim and Linn
> will certainly not switch to Airplay-only, but at the sam
pski;690027 Wrote:
> So this means that Airplay/Apple does not support playing
> one thing to one device and something else to any others.
>
No. AirPlay supports it.
What does not is iTunes, iTunes can only play one queue at a time.
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see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote and
>
> It's not up to Logitech.
> Google Apple's terms&conditions for AirPlay and you know why it won't
> happen.
i am not a lawyer so i'll skip wading through terms&conditions, but it
seems odd that so many other hardware devices canis Logitech or
the SB Touch unique is some regard? I used the
pippin;689927 Wrote:
> You can play different music on different AirPlay devices if you've got
> more than one source but iTunes can only handle a single playback
> queue.
> So "yes" to your first question.
>
> Syncing kind of works but it's not an active sync but only through
> Multicast or oth
shaboyi;690017 Wrote:
> Great discussion...I still wonder why the Squeezebox Touch could not
> also be an Airplay device - so you could select it as a receiver and
> use Airplay to stream to the SB. This would be the best of both
> worlds: a superior networked 'open' audio solution (Squeezebox)
Great discussion...I still wonder why the Squeezebox Touch could not
also be an Airplay device - so you could select it as a receiver and
use Airplay to stream to the SB. This would be the best of both
worlds: a superior networked 'open' audio solution (Squeezebox) and
the convenience of Airplay.
amrace;685885 Wrote:
> I would like another Boom type device to add to my existing system of 2
> Classics and Boom.
I was surprised to see the Boom listed in a recent email from Amazon
about network music players. And "only" US$500
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001DJ64D4/ref=pe_77200_22618660_pe_
maggior;689973 Wrote:
> kids with an iPod or iPad that want to listen over speakers in their
> room, college kids looking to do the same, etc. Though I guess that
> limited audience is pretty large :-).
The DK goverment has a goal of getting some 80 percent of the
population through college, so
pippin;689927 Wrote:
> You can play different music on different AirPlay devices if you've got
> more than one source but iTunes can only handle a single playback
> queue.
> So "yes" to your first question.
>
Thanks for confirming my understanding. To me, this setup has limited
use - kids with
You can play different music on different AirPlay devices if you've got
more than one source but iTunes can only handle a single playback
queue.
So "yes" to your first question.
Syncing kind of works but it's not an active sync but only through
Multicast or other network means so devices _can_ ge
Is it true that airplay works per instance of iTunes or an iOS device?
For instance, I have one computer with iTunes on it and somebody in
room A is listening to music via AirPlay, somebody in room B cannot
choose to listen to something else via AirPlay from that computer.
In that scenario, is i
Sorry about a late reply...
erland;688275 Wrote:
> So which system/company do you feel have a more promising future over
> the next 5 years so you would be prepared to put your money on it ?
>
Don't know :)
erland;688275 Wrote:
>
> The offerings from Apple certainly have their limitations
MrSinatra;687288 Wrote:
> logitech products are becoming increasingly unnecessary for most
> users... thats the real issue.
>
> on the one hand you have apple and all its tight integration that for
> most apple people works very well, or at least, prefectly for them.
> airplay is now becoming
In the Apple universe the best way to do that is to use the appropriate
app on your iPhone/iPad/iPod Touch and use AirPlay to send it to the
AirPort.
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Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes, SoftSqueeze as well. What ?
I SAID ALL OF THEM !
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andynormancx;688341 Wrote:
> Yes iTunes has AirPlay built in and yes it works on a Windows PC as
> well.
Interesting, but can you also stream Internet content with iTunes like
you can with Touch/LMS, i.e. local radio stations, Slacker, Mog.?
Thanks Bob
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amrace;688318 Wrote:
>
> Is the Squeezebox method more HiFi than the Apple?
>
No, the Squeezebox just gives you more choices regarding which file
format to use for the music files.
It would be interesting if someone with good ears and good equipment
did a blind test between an AirPort Expre
bobm;688274 Wrote:
> Can you purchase apple lossless from itunes now?
I don't think the iTunes store sells any lossless files. But obviously
you can rip CDs to Apple Lossless, and I've noticed that many artists
who sell downloads choose Apple Lossless as their only lossless option.
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erland;688275 Wrote:
> So if I would mention companies that have the biggest potential to take
> over the market, Apple would be pretty high on that list, they would be
> in the top. Reason being that they have it all:
> - They have the backend music store
> - They are focused at usability and ea
When you open iTunes 10 or later on your Mac or PC, you'll see an
AirPlay button at the bottom right-hand corner of the iTunes
window.Clicking on the AirPlay button will let you control where you
stream your content.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4325
Andy
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bobm;688333 Wrote:
> Does Itunes have AIRPLAY built in or do you have to run another server
> on your MAC in order to stream. Can Airplay be run from a PC?
>
Yes iTunes has AirPlay built in and yes it works on a Windows PC as
well.
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Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes, SoftS
amrace;688318 Wrote:
> An Airplay version would be something like this:
>
> Apple lossless files - iTunes Airplay Lossless streaming over Wifi
> Airport Express optical out to DAC, amplifier and speakers iPad
> control using Apple Remote.
Does Itunes have AIRPLAY built in or do you have
erland;688275 Wrote:
> So which system/company do you feel have a more promising future over
> the next 5 years so you would be prepared to put your money on it ?
> Ease of setup, use and administration is the key. The company that gets
all of that right will dominate the market in the long ter
It appears that many of us think that the future of Squeezebox is not
too bright so Ive been looking at what else is on the market for when
the time comes to update my ageing kit or to build on what I have now.
Sonos and Apple Airplay are similar alternatives but the Apple option
has been describ
DLNA's a dead end, I think. I've played with a few over the years,
notably Twonky, but I can't believe a non-techy will sit there and
configure it to try and get audio *and* video working.
Squeezebox is great, but for me at least it's another layer on top of
my configuration. I run a Windows bo
TheLastMan;688039 Wrote:
>
> The only significant advantage Squeezebox has over Airplay and DLNA is
> its ability to play different streams to different players and/or
> synchronise players all from a single music server.
>
People keep mention DLNA...
Could someone let me know which DLNA based
bhaagensen;688203 Wrote:
> I agree things are looking fruity at the moment, but I think you are all
> assuming that Apple manages to maintain their [unrealistically?] high
> momentum in the long run - iPhone/iMac/Macbook/iPad/iPod. Though
> tempting, looking at the tech landscape, its not a horse
I really like my touch but I am curious. If using an IPOD doc and using
apples lossless, will the quality be close to that of a SB touch? Not
being a MAC guy, I looked at airport express and some IPOD docks, they
don't seem to have digital out's for connection to your reciever but I
may be miss
KMorgan;687768 Wrote:
> I love my Squeezeboxes, but it's only when you try to explain to someone
> how it all works that you realise that for the average bod it's all
> quite complex.
>
> A non-techy pal of mine visits and really enjoys using Squeezepad to
> browse Spotify and listen to anything
I agree things are looking fruity at the moment, but I think you are all
assuming that Apple manages to maintain their [unrealistically?] high
momentum in the long run - iPhone/iMac/Macbook/iPad/iPod. Though
tempting, looking at the tech landscape, its not a horse I would put my
own actual money o
TheLastMan;688039 Wrote:
> High fidelity? Most don't need or care for it.
And among those who do need or care for it, iTunes (with WAV, AIFF, or
Apple Lossless) + Airplay-equipped name brand consumer-grade receiver
(Marantz, Denon, Yamaha, Harmon Kardon, etc) + decent speakers is "good
enough" fo
KMorgan;687768 Wrote:
> I love my Squeezeboxes, but it's only when you try to explain to someone
> how it all works that you realise that for the average bod it's all
> quite complex.
>
> A non-techy pal of mine visits and really enjoys using Squeezepad to
> browse Spotify and listen to anything
I love my Squeezeboxes, but it's only when you try to explain to someone
how it all works that you realise that for the average bod it's all
quite complex.
A non-techy pal of mine visits and really enjoys using Squeezepad to
browse Spotify and listen to anything he wants (well almost). So, he
ge
erland;687589 Wrote:
> At least all the DLNA solutions I've tried has been less user friendly
> and more buggy than the Squeezebox, but maybe I've just been unlucky
> and tried the wrong ones.
I agree. At the moment DLNA works well enough for videos but the audio
aspect is a far less satisfying
trautigan;687578 Wrote:
> Sadly the 'browsing experience' isn't the deciding factor for most
> people - Ease of use is higher on the list.
> And Logitech's products are bottom of the list in that area for most
> non-tech mortals when it comes to that.
>
> I've had Logitech products for years -
erland;687385 Wrote:
> Does other DLNA based solutions available on the market today provide a
> more intuitive and forgiving browsing experience ?
>
> Does any hardware based player provide a more intuitive and forgiving
> browsing experience ?
>
> I know there are computer based players that
"erland" Wrote:
> Does other DLNA based solutions available on the market today provide a
> more intuitive and forgiving browsing experience ?
There's one DLNA server that does quite a bit... it's the 'PS3 Media
Server' (http://www.ps3mediaserver.org). Having looked at it quickly,
it appears tha
MrSinatra;687288 Wrote:
>
> logitech meanwhile, sells an audio only platform that requires
> mastering a fairly complicated server which has an extremely
> unintuitive and unforgiving browse exp.
>
Does other DLNA based solutions available on the market today provide a
more intuitive and forgiv
logitech products are becoming increasingly unnecessary for most
users... thats the real issue.
on the one hand you have apple and all its tight integration that for
most apple people works very well, or at least, prefectly for them.
airplay is now becoming a standard that 3rd party hardware
in
shaboyi;687235 Wrote:
>
> nevertheless, given Airplay's momentum, I think the SB Touch doubling
> as an Airplay receiver has enormous appeal and would be a great
> selling point for it.
>
While I agree with you, I guess it's also a question of price. Would
you be willing to pay $100 extra for a
what would be a great SB innovation is if the SB Touch could be a
Airplay receiver (like an Apple TV, Denon Receiver or the growing list
of devices that can do it) As an earlier post pointed out, it may be
that Apple won't allow it on an open platform, but I thought the SB
Touch firmware was propr
MrSinatra;686753 Wrote:
> that seems really odd... why bother to make a mp3 lossless to send
> wirelessly?
>
> and whats really odd about it, is i have seen in practice, music go
> from a laptop, wirelessly, to a router, to an airport express and / or
> apple tv, again, wirelessly, and not hicc
DaveWr;686743 Wrote:
> Everything is converted to 16 bit 44 khz cd standard ALAC according to
> Linn, who have incorporated Airplay support in their v expensive
> streamers. They have also added Songcast to support high sample rate
> 24 bit music.
that seems really odd... why bother to make a
bhaagensen;686603 Wrote:
> Though the ultimate conclusion may be right, I think you are overlooking
> the fact that many are using the very iPods, iPhones, and iPads to
> control LMS...
I don't disagree with that; I was referring more to the thousands who
are happy to plug their ios device into
erland;686715 Wrote:
>
>
> Does anyone know which audio quality you get through AirPlay ? Does it
> allow some lossless format or is everything encoded through some lossy
> codec ?
>
>
Everything is converted to 16 bit 44 khz cd standard ALAC according to
Linn, who have incorporated Airplay
erland;686715 Wrote:
> Does anyone know which audio quality you get through AirPlay ? Does it
> allow some lossless format or is everything encoded through some lossy
> codec ?
i have no idea how airplay works, but i suspect it allows for different
codecs, and it might transcode or something bas
I assume people know that they can make any AirPlay speaker/receiver a
Squeezebox by combining it with one of the iOS apps which support
playback, for example iPeng or SqueezePad.
As long as you don't need synchronized playback it should work very
good. Just configure the iPhone/iPad to output it
Soulkeeper;686675 Wrote:
> It's just that I don't want to spend money on a sense of claustrophobia;
> that I can get for free if I want to. ;)
>
Yes, you are right. Easy to get a bit claustrophobic with all the
content on that platform. Compared to that you do indeed get a good
sense of freedom
TheLastMan;686672 Wrote:
> There is a reason why it is twice the price of the Android pads.
>
It's not. There are capable Android Pads but they cost as much as
Apple's although they are really lacking Apps.
Kindle Fire & Co don't really help with that.
Me thinks the market will settle towards
TheLastMan;686672 Wrote:
> Don't. You will regret it
Ok? No pad for me then?
TheLastMan;686672 Wrote:
> Anyway you cannot really blame Apple for the fact that Logitech wants to
> use its technology.
And I don't.
Besides, it's not my feelings towards Apple that makes me turn away
from them. I
Soulkeeper;686630 Wrote:
> (Starts looking for an Android pad.)
Don't. You will regret it.
Regardless of your feelings towards Apple, the iPad is streets ahead of
any of the Android pads in usability, app availability. There is a
reason why it is twice the price of the Android pads.
Anyway you
verypsb;686597 Wrote:
> If I understand correctly, Apple doesn't allow Airplay on devices with
> an open (streaming) OS, like LMS/SqueezePlay.
Every time I start considering to buy an Apple product (this time it
was the iPad), something like this comes up. And makes me turn on my
heels. Thanks
I think 90,000 new iPhones per day is a little larger target market,
than squeeze things.
Don't forget Logitech got burn't on Google TV.
Any I don't think that they want to undermine the current Squeeze price
points.
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gruntwolla;686207 Wrote:
> . Looking at the manual, it is clearly aimed at owners of ios devices.
> For those people, LMS would just be a confusing distraction, so as it
> isn't mentioned, it won't be there.
Though the ultimate conclusion may be right, I think you are
overlooking the fact that m
If I understand correctly, Apple doesn't allow Airplay on devices with
an open (streaming) OS, like LMS/SqueezePlay.
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::Please vote:::
'::bug 1330:: New music should work on creation date'
(http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1330)
'::bug 2140:: Allow specification of SlimSe
As the device already has 802.11 and Ethernet, adding support for LMS
must surely be a "simple" matter of firmware.
Which should be cheap enough for us to expect them to actually do so.
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'Bug 17797: Updating wiki.slimdevices.com'
(http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1779
Logitech seems to have no problem with having a lot of different
products, look at thier mouse keyboard and computer speakers.
They seems to have problem with products like squeezeboxes, who is more
involved and takes longtime support .
1000's of fit and forget stuff with a very short shelf life
amrace;686074 Wrote:
> Do you think Logitech will keep both Squeezebox and Aiplay wifi
> streaming systems in its future product lineup?
And don't forget the Bluetooth-based wireless speakers that Logitech
introduced in late 2011. Those devices are actually on shelves now,
unlike this AirPlay dev
amrace;686074 Wrote:
> I found a download of the user manual here.
>
> http://www.scribd.com/doc/70131052/Logitech-Air-Speaker
>
> It appears to have wifi and an ethernet connection but there's no
> mention of LMS. It looks like it's purely for Airplay streaming. Do you
> think Logitech will ke
I found a download of the user manual here.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/70131052/Logitech-Air-Speaker
It appears to have wifi and an ethernet connection but there's no
mention of LMS. It looks like it's purely for Airplay streaming. Do you
think Logitech will keep both Squeezebox and Aiplay wifi s
If Logitech released a 802.11 player -without- LMS support, that would
be very stupid IMO. Not to speak of how utterly -disappointing- it
would be. So I, for one, am going to keep hoping.
Perhaps that's the Boom II right there. Here's 'a small \"preview\" at
cnet'
(http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19
Hi,
Does anyone know aything about the new Logitech Airplay Speaker? I
can't find much information on it yet but was thinking that it would be
nice if it was also compatable with the Squeezebox family / LMS. I would
like another Boom type device to add to my existing system of 2 Classics
and Boom
MeSue;676233 Wrote:
> Well, if you wanted the red, the coupon would bring it down to $105,
> which is not bad. The red always seems to be priced higher.
On the linked sale page, $149 was shown as the sale/coupon price for
the red, down from the normal $179.
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kc5f;676187 Wrote:
> I got mine on Friday. But clicking through to the website, it shows the
> Radio in red for $149.99, which Amazon already has in black for $129.99.
> And, of course, no more Boom at Logitech, which I might actually be
> interested in, especially if they had a new version out!
Doesn't work in Canada.
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I got mine on Friday. But clicking through to the website, it shows the
Radio in red for $149.99, which Amazon already has in black for $129.99.
And, of course, no more Boom at Logitech, which I might actually be
interested in, especially if they had a new version out!
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Mnyb;76 Wrote:
> Not much , MOG support posibility to use multipe music folders ( but
> that would probably make it crash ).
>
> Some bugfixes over 7.6.2 but if non of the bugs bothered you, there is
> no need o upgrade.
>
> the big thing is probably the dlna/upnp server functionality for r
Just followed the internet radio topic and found that most of big hi-fi
and audio equipment vendors (list is on the sight) have a server
platform called http://www.vtuner.com/services.asp as a common place
for internet radio
I guess it is an analog to mysqueezeserver hosted by Logitech
Seen the
I guess you better compare vtuner with tunein.com which is used by the
Squeezeboxes as a Internet radio dictionary.
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2 * Classic, 2 * Boom, SC 7.6.2 auf GigaByte STA/C mit VIA C7 1GHz, 1GB
RAM, 250 GB 2,5" HD, Ubuntu Desktop 8.04 LTS, CD -> FLAC = dbpoweramp,
Mix MusicIP, Router AVM F
I've used vTuner on my Yamaha AVR and it is really nothing like
MySB.com. Some basic disadvantages to vTuner as I understand it and as
I've used it:
- requires an embedded chip in the hardware device to access vTuner,
same as Reciva
- no subscription services offered (Pandora, Slacker, Rhapsody
toby10;673059 Wrote:
> Good god! Our government in the TV/entertainment business? No thanks.
> ;)Spare a thought for the poor Italians. They have had to put up with
"BBC" (Berlusconi Brodcasting Corporation) for decades...
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AndrewFG
Try out Whitebear. The middleware th
Gingernut63;673064 Wrote:
> The ABC in Australia is very similar to the BBC; it provides the quality
> I look for in TV programs, some sourced from the BBC. The ABC while
> funded by Government, has it's own charter and operates independently.
> Without the ABC providing a quality alternative the
DaveWr;673133 Wrote:
> The BBC is changing, ex Tory party chairman heads it up. Budget frozen
> for 6 years. We Brits like to wreck what we have.
Don't worry, the right wing Aussies politicians try the same thing with
the ABC. It's a constant battle :(.
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Mnyb;673107 Wrote:
> to work, a pulic service TV should operate under it's own charter and
> not under controll by the goverment, you see when it go wrong just tune
> in the weird channels on your cable TV.
>
> men with mustach and khaki uniforms reading the news :)
The BBC is changing, ex Tory
to work, a pulic service TV should operate under it's own charter and
not under controll by the goverment, you see when it go wrong just tune
in the weird channels on your cable TV.
men with mustach and khaki uniforms reading the news :)
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