I guess that I would be considered one of the new arrivals. I just
recently discovered SlimDevices and Squeezebox - after it was acquired
by Logitech, as it turns out. I found out about it from a BestBuy MP3
player with Rhapsody that my wife bought at Best Buy - sorry. :)
The SlimDevices and
To be honest, I've never thought the name Slim Devices evoked high-end
audio equipment -- or audio equipment at all, though the logo is
certainly better looking than Logitech's. I've never liked the name
Squeezebox either because it reminds me of that song by The Who that
I always hated.
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FYI, I just received a new all-black SB3. It still has Slim Devices
branding on the faceplace and the molded case, but its remote control
has a Logitech logo. The logo is larger and less subtle than the Slim
Devices logo on the earlier remote controls. It's not too big for the
remote, but if the
Jez;191527 Wrote:
We obviously want to sell lots of Squeezeboxes, but we also know there's
a lot of consumer education to be done too. On this front, I'm very
aware of how valuable this community is in spreading the word and
supporting newcomers. So I'll be looking to support the community
Jez;191527 Wrote:
We want to walk before we run and right now many consumers just
wouldn't understand the product if they saw it on the shelf of some
sort of superstore.
CompUSA and Fry's Electronics must feel the Roku is easy enough to
understand, as both of those places have them on
Skunk;191669 Wrote:
CompUSA and Fry's Electronics must feel the Roku is easy enough to
understand, as both of those places have them on shelves (along with
probably every *other* Logitech product made).
Unfair advantage: Roku
Make that a *HUGE* unfair advantage to Roku in the consumer
call me naive but i don't see why, like record companies, logitech
couldn't realistically have slim devices as a branch of themselves.
keeping the branding on the products as it is etc. worst case, having
both logos on the packaging just to comfort the consumer (maybe that
answers my question)
drewe181;191695 Wrote:
call me naive but i don't see why, like record companies, logitech
couldn't realistically have slim devices as a branch of themselves.
keeping the branding on the products as it is etc. worst case, having
both logos on the packaging just to comfort the consumer (maybe
adamslim;191715 Wrote:
brand reconceptualisation
Whwwwhhh!
MC
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ModelCitizen
It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist
in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
Transporter Naim NAP 250 PMC OB1s.
http://www.last.fm/user/ModelCitizen
adamslim;191715 Wrote:
How would they leverage synergies? How would Logitech be able to
describe their product as a Streaming Solution if brand
reconceptualisation was not enabled.
That is, indeed, one of the worst spelling of peripherals I've ever
seen :) Might I recommend Firefox,
Kyle;190675 Wrote:
Dean, are these going to be in wide distribution (ie big box stores) or
specialty audio shops?
Sorry I didn't catch this earlier but I figured I could comment on this
as far as the Americas go.
Initially we are looking to get the products into specialist AV retail
and
Michael Herger;191039 Wrote:
If the 23year old journalist doesn't even read what he's writing about,
his career won't last for long ;-)
We might like to think so, but sadly experience tells us that the
journalists who pay least attention to boring details like facts are
the ones
fathom39;191034 Wrote:
Fewer people care about that anymore. They think they have arrived
because they have an iPod docking station to play their DRM'd, 128k
iTunes.
I'm afraid the itunes download represents the death knell of popular
music as we have known it. Music will no longer be
Michael Herger;191039 Wrote:
This attitude can be problematic.
Especially if you pick my phrase out of it's context. _Anybody_ would
agree that you'd better stay away from a forum if the change of its
logo
makes you suicidal. Don't you agree?
Aside from the potential benefits
I still think branding slimdevices with Logitech is bad marketing.
I'd rather brand all wireless music devices produced by Logitech with
the SlimDevices brand which is high quality and could be used as a
luxury internal brand by Logitech.
Fiat -- Ferrari
Ford -- Jaguar
Toyota -- Lexus
etc
Kyle;191068 Wrote:
I'm afraid the itunes download represents the death knell of popular
music as we have known it. Music will no longer be produced and sold
by the album. Instead, only hits will be made for individual
download. No one will be willing to pay for an entire album and get
Same here. I subscribe to emusic on the 90 download per month plan, and I
use it to discover much more music than I otherwise would. When I find
something I really like, I buy the CD, to have the higher quality.
On 3/29/07, azinck3 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Kyle;191068 Wrote:
I'm afraid the
Internet radio and services like
Rhapsody definitely have me exploring the far end of the long tail
much more than I would ever be if I could only listen to FM radio or
spend my hard-earned money on albums.
I have several artists in my collection which I've never seen in any of
the services
I bought two CDs last weekend - one of which definitely a little band you
won't find outside Switzerland.
Who, Polo Hofer or Gotthard?
Tom
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Who, Polo Hofer or Gotthard?
These are _big_ players over here. Gotthard has seen stages in Japan.
No, it's a band called flink (http://www.myspace.com/flinkmusic) :-)
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Kyle;191068 Wrote:
I'm afraid the itunes download represents the death knell of popular
music as we have known it. Music will no longer be produced and sold
by the album. Instead, only hits will be made for individual
download. No one will be willing to pay for an entire album and get
Get over it. Logitech IS Slim Devices. Period. Hopefully a professional
programmer can finally give Slim Server and Soft Squeeze (and other
plug-ins written by amateur programmers) the slick feel that these
EXPENSIVE electronics need.
I am chomping at the bit to order a Transporter (having
desertrat58;191146 Wrote:
Get over it. Logitech IS Slim Devices. Period. Hopefully a professional
programmer can finally give Slim Server and Soft Squeeze (and other
plug-ins written by amateur programmers) the slick feel that these
EXPENSIVE electronics need.
I am chomping at the bit to
Quoting gbruzzo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
IWhat I find unreasonable
from a marketing point of view, is that they should kill off the
Slimdevices brand, rather than invest on it as a high quality
subdivision, nothing more.
Perhaps using the high quality product to build up their own brand is
desertrat58;191146 Wrote:
Get over it. Logitech IS Slim Devices. Period. Hopefully a professional
programmer can finally give Slim Server and Soft Squeeze (and other
plug-ins written by amateur programmers) the slick feel that these
EXPENSIVE electronics need.
I am chomping at the bit to
autopilot;191160 Wrote:
I agree regarding some of the long standing bugs that have never really
completely been got to grips with, but i can live with those because of
what it gives me that other devices don't. Don't forget that the
-amateur programmers- are the people that made the product
If they are smart, they will do a major interface fix on Slim Server
There's one flaw in the strategy to monetise Slimsevices - it can't
play DRMed music.
Maybe they'll take a payoff from Microsoft to join the Zune 'social',
in return for dropping native support for FLAC?
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amcluesent
amcluesent;191171 Wrote:
Maybe they'll take a payoff from Microsoft to join the Zune 'social', in
return for dropping native support for FLAC?
Why on Earth would they have to drop FLAC in order to implement DRM? I
don't get it.
Are you implying that the firmware can't take both (this is
I certainly can't imagine any company has a real agenda against FLAC, given
that so few people know what it is. Whenever it comes up in conversation
with my friends (both technical and non-technical), they don't know what it
is.
On 3/29/07, Mark Lanctot
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michael Herger;190782 Wrote:
- she once explained why she didn't need that boombox any
longer. No hidden announcement :-)
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Michael
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http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD
For those who care (not really me), the latest 6.5.2 now includes the
Logitech logo. In point of fact, the file
html/images/slimdevices_logo.gif *just* has the Logitech logo - no
mention of Slim Devices.
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doundounba
- she once explained why she didn't need that boombox any
longer. No hidden announcement :-)
Are you jerking our chain(s)??
No. I only tried to state more precisly what it all was about that Once I
wanted a Squeezeboombox. FWIW: the said profile:
Funny, they have put A Logitech Company under Slim Devices on the home
page and every other page, but not the forums page. I guess that would
make some here suicidal.
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Kyle
Kyle's Profile:
Funny, they have put A Logitech Company under Slim Devices on the home
page and every other page, but not the forums page. I guess that would
make some here suicidal.
Well... then they should probably better stay away from the forum...
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Michael
Michael Herger;190782 Wrote:
That was MeSue - she once explained why she didn't need that boombox
any longer. No hidden announcement :-)
That would be me. I really need to change my sig, eh?
I still think it would be cool if a boombox-type device were available,
since there is nothing
Tried to install the latest nightly, but couldn't:
Error creating INI entry in file D:\Slimserver\Visit Slim
Devices/Logitech.url
Which is the first time I encounter Logitech during my install setup
(that never failed me before). That's BAD branding :-)
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SlimPvC
Kyle;190892 Wrote:
Funny, they have put A Logitech Company under Slim Devices on the home
page and every other page, but not the forums page. I guess that would
make some here suicidal.
Yeah - even on the wiki page.
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TCM
'Squeezebox 3' (http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_squeezebox.html) -
doundounba;190890 Wrote:
For those who care (not really me), the latest 6.5.2 now includes the
Logitech logo. In point of fact, the file
html/images/slimdevices_logo.gif *just* has the Logitech logo - no
mention of Slim Devices.
The difference
Michael Herger;190898 Wrote:
Well... then they should probably better stay away from the
forum.../QUOTE]
This attitude can be problematic. The pen is mightier than the sword.
I can see some twenty-three year old know-it-all journalist
proclaiming that the forums are a bit geeky and
MeSue;190931 Wrote:
I still think it would be cool if a boombox-type device were available,
since there is nothing like it that I have seen on the market. But I
found a solution to my pool-side tunes problem using a wireless outdoor
speaker and PDA for control, so I probably wouldn't buy a
GoCubs;190687 Wrote:
If they're going to be more mass market I'd prefer to see them sold
somewhere like CompUSA or MicroCenter.
-Greg
The writing is on the wall for ChumpUSA.
http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_viewnewsId=20070227006439newsLang=en
On the other hand - I hate that forum dynamics where old users claim
they are better, wiser, smarter, etc. than the new ones, just because
they have spent more time on the forum (or bought the product earlier).
Why not just welcome the new 'logitech crowd'?
Let's not be arrogant just because we
This attitude can be problematic.
Especially if you pick my phrase out of it's context. _Anybody_ would
agree that you'd better stay away from a forum if the change of its logo
makes you suicidal. Don't you agree?
I can see some twenty-three year old know-it-all journalist
proclaiming
Is there any chance that those of use who have Slim Devices branded
components could avoid having them retroactively branded Logitech by
new firmware and software? Use a serial number, MAC address...
something.
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JJZolx
Jim
Since there will be Logitech branded players on the shelves in stores
soon, we need to move to that brand for the software as well.
Future firmware upgrades will add Logitech branding to the boot screen
and future slimserver upgrades will add Logitech branding to the web
interface. You could
dean;190664 Wrote:
Since there will be Logitech branded players on the shelves in stores
soon ...
Dean, are these going to be in wide distribution (ie big box stores) or
specialty audio shops?
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Kyle
Kyle's Profile:
Resistance is futile!
:)
-Greg
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GoCubs
GoCubs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=312
View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33966
I'm assuming since this will be in the software that it will be true both of
Squeezebox and Transporter?
On 3/27/07, dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since there will be Logitech branded players on the shelves in stores
soon, we need to move to that brand for the software as well.
Future
Kyle;190675 Wrote:
Dean, are these going to be in wide distribution (ie big box stores) or
specialty audio shops?
In another post Dean referred them as some major retailers. Please
not be Best Buy! I'm already mad enough at BestBuy for acquiring
SpeakEasy today.
-Greg
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GoCubs
As long as they're still sold directl online, it shouldn't hurt anything to
also have them available at Best Buy. Or anyway I don't see the downside...
On 3/27/07, GoCubs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Kyle;190675 Wrote:
Dean, are these going to be in wide distribution (ie big box stores) or
JJZolx wrote:
Is there any chance that those of use who have Slim Devices branded
components could avoid having them retroactively branded Logitech by
new firmware and software? Use a serial number, MAC address...
something.
Are you really *that* bothered?
R.
Mitch Harding;190683 Wrote:
As long as they're still sold directl online, it shouldn't hurt anything
to
also have them available at Best Buy. Or anyway I don't see the
downside...
I'm just worried about the forums being overrun by people of a
different mindset. If they're going to be
I doubt the mass market people will find the forums the best avenue for
support. The forums seem more aimed for more technically savvy people. I
imagine telephone and e-mail support will get the bulk of the general
support requests.
My feeling is that the more products they sell, the more
On 3/27/07, JJZolx [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Is there any chance that those of use who have Slim Devices branded
components could avoid having them retroactively branded Logitech by
new firmware and software? Use a serial number, MAC address...
something.
I hope not. What a ridiculous
Mitch Harding;190691 Wrote:
My feeling is that the more products they sell, the more money they have
to improve the product and create new products
and/or reduce the price ;-)
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HarleyMYK
HarleyMYK's Profile:
I'm curious to see if they're going to introduce other form factors too.
There was some guy who's sig file said something to the effect of I
used to want a Slim Server boom box but I've been interested in
something like that.
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sander
There was some guy who's sig file said something to the effect of I
used to want a Slim Server boom box but I've been interested in
something like that.
That was MeSue - she once explained why she didn't need that boombox any
longer. No hidden announcement :-)
--
Michael
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