Re: [slim] New Device - Headless SB Remote Display/Control

2008-02-11 Thread Kane
I just want to thank the slimdevices team for the new duet product. It seems this is pretty much what I had asked for in this forum section. I can now place the amp in a remote location and with multiple controls, it can be manuipulated from anywhere in the house. -- Kane

Re: [slim] New Device - Headless SB Remote Display/Control

2007-06-23 Thread amcluesent
What do you think? We're all assuming that Logitech will use the Jive platform to knock-up a Harmony-based remote with album art etc. to feature match Sonos. I assume this would be used to control SB3 and won't be marketing-engineered to only work with the mooted SB4 and Transporter. --

Re: [slim] New Device - Headless SB Remote Display/Control

2007-06-22 Thread Kane
Sean -- see your private inbox for info -- Kane Kane's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12010 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36169

Re: [slim] New Device - Headless SB Remote Display/Control

2007-06-19 Thread seanadams
SuperQ;209717 Wrote: there are a few really REALLY low-end gige hubs out there I'm not real good with networking so I could be wrong about all this, but I really don't think they exist. I would be very interested to see such a beast if you can provide a link to one. Switching technology was

Re: [slim] New Device - Headless SB Remote Display/Control

2007-06-19 Thread Mark Lanctot
dwilliams01;209695 Wrote: It had security options that my old G hub didn't support. My laptop with built-in b didn't support it either. You're most likely talking about WPA - which 802.11b never supported. 802.11g has supported it from the beginning, but not all 802.11g chipsets supported

Re: [slim] New Device - Headless SB Remote Display/Control

2007-06-18 Thread dwilliams01
Been away for a few days - sorry for the delay in responding. It was a few years ago when Belkin first came out with mimo-style pre-n, not the current draft n. It had security options that my old G hub didn't support. My laptop with built-in b didn't support it either. They probalby do now,

Re: [slim] New Device - Headless SB Remote Display/Control

2007-06-18 Thread SuperQ
seanadams;209471 Wrote: Sorry, but you're completely wrong. You may be thinking of a hub, which for practical purposes don't exist any more, and have never existed at all as far as gigabit ethernet is concerned. To be fair, there are a few really REALLY low-end gige hubs out there,

Re: [slim] New Device - Headless SB Remote Display/Control

2007-06-17 Thread Kane
The reason to get the speed up to modern standards is two fold, The first is general network speed. Once you have either a mixed wireless network, or with many wired switches/routers, the entire network takes perfomance a hit. The second, as mentioned is security within the network. The third

Re: [slim] New Device - Headless SB Remote Display/Control

2007-06-17 Thread seanadams
Kane;209425 Wrote: With video streams and large files bouncing around the house it makes sense to bring everything up to speed when adding new equipment. No it doesn't... switches operate each port separately at whatever speed the endpoint uses. There is absolutely zero slowdown to the

Re: [slim] New Device - Headless SB Remote Display/Control

2007-06-17 Thread Mark Lanctot
Kane;209425 Wrote: Once you have either a mixed wireless network, or with many wired switches/routers, the entire network takes perfomance a hit. This was the case with 802.11b and 802.11g, but has this been shown to be the case with 802.11n and 802.11g? I don't believe it has. If I am

Re: [slim] New Device - Headless SB Remote Display/Control

2007-06-17 Thread Kane
seanadams;209428 Wrote: No it doesn't... switches operate each port separately Yes but simple router's don't. In any case, the wireless portion is more important as using a mixed wireless network ABSOLUTELY slows down the nodes Of course the main point my brining this up is the idea of a

Re: [slim] New Device - Headless SB Remote Display/Control

2007-06-17 Thread seanadams
Kane;209459 Wrote: Yes but simple router's don't. Sorry, but you're completely wrong. You may be thinking of a hub, which for practical purposes don't exist any more, and have never existed at all as far as gigabit ethernet is concerned. In any case, the wireless portion is more important

Re: [slim] New Device - Headless SB Remote Display/Control

2007-06-17 Thread Kane
I absolutely admit you are correct when it comes to wired switches (and your right, it was hubs that I was thinking about). OK, let's keep the unit at 10 Mps for the wired eithernet. As far as the problem mixing wireless a/b/g/n numerous people are having problems with wireless networks

Re: [slim] New Device - Headless SB Remote Display/Control

2007-06-17 Thread Pat Farrell
Kane wrote: As far as the problem mixing wireless a/b/g/n numerous people are having problems with wireless networks (mostly with streaming video) And how is streaming video, which takes megabytes per second, related to streaming audio, which takes no more than 1.5 mega bits per second even

Re: [slim] New Device - Headless SB Remote Display/Control

2007-06-17 Thread Kane
Pat Farrell;209481 Wrote: Kane wrote: As far as the problem mixing wireless a/b/g/n numerous people are having problems with wireless networks (mostly with streaming video) And how is streaming video, which takes megabytes per second, related to streaming audio, ... It you have

Re: [slim] New Device - Headless SB Remote Display/Control

2007-06-17 Thread Pat Farrell
Kane wrote: If it's not economically feasible to break out the D/A converter and decoder processors, then this isn't a viable idea. Well, I don't work for SD or Logitech, I just buy their stuff. But the economics of consumer electronics are completely against you. Recently SD stopped offering

Re: [slim] New Device - Headless SB Remote Display/Control

2007-06-17 Thread Mark Lanctot
Kane;209500 Wrote: It you have multiple, constant video files streaming about (along with other traffic such as these smaller audio streams), then entire network is slower if you don't have pure n wireless network. My wireless network is VERY busy. It all depends on how much you really use

Re: [slim] New Device - Headless SB Remote Display/Control

2007-06-17 Thread Kane
Mark Lanctot;209509 Wrote: it has been asked before but it didn't amount to much - your best bet is an SB3 and the ShadowPlay plugin Then that's the end of this thread. Mark Lanctot;209509 Wrote: That's because you keep making stuff up! By pure n all I meant was that all the devices

Re: [slim] New Device - Headless SB Remote Display/Control

2007-06-17 Thread seanadams
Kane;209517 Wrote: A reference was already posted above. You can do more research if you want, or not. I would love to. However, MacWorld isn't exactly an authoritative expert on the subject, and the article you referenced only makes passing mention of the supposed phenomenon. I googled for

[slim] New Device - Headless SB Remote Display/Control

2007-06-16 Thread Kane
I am putting together a couple of new speaker setups, with their amp in another room, far from the listening area. The remote amp will be fed via a squeezebox, but since this is far from the human eye, what I really need is a new product: A combination of a headless SLIMP3/SB/Transporter player

Re: [slim] New Device - Headless SB Remote Display/Control

2007-06-16 Thread Mark Lanctot
Why do you need gigabit and 802.11n? Even a 24/96 WAV is only 4608 kbps - it can be handled by lowly 802.11b. Gigabit is massive overkill. 802.11n is as well although it offers some throughput vs. distance benefits, which can be matched with 802.11g MIMO. -- Mark Lanctot 'Sean Adams'

Re: [slim] New Device - Headless SB Remote Display/Control

2007-06-16 Thread DrNic
Hi Gigabit might be overkill if it is just for the one SB - but we don't know what else might be on the network. I have just wired my house with gigabit - namely because I have 3 SB3's all potentially streaming FLAC, plus a streamed video library (with ever increasing HD content!) and I move

Re: [slim] New Device - Headless SB Remote Display/Control

2007-06-16 Thread Mark Lanctot
DrNic;209300 Wrote: Gigabit might be overkill if it is just for the one SB - but we don't know what else might be on the network. Sure, but gigabit at the server and router. The client (SB) doesn't need to be gigabit since it can only receive one stream at a time. Perhaps if you were using

Re: [slim] New Device - Headless SB Remote Display/Control

2007-06-16 Thread dwilliams01
From a speed point of view, 11n might not be needed but from a compatibility point of view it is. At least I setup my pre-n network to use security not available in b or g so they aren't compatible. I wouldn't want to add another wireless hub with a lower level of security and it would be a

Re: [slim] New Device - Headless SB Remote Display/Control

2007-06-16 Thread snarlydwarf
dwilliams01;209344 Wrote: At least I setup my pre-n network to use security not available in b or g so they aren't compatible. I wouldn't want to add another wireless hub with a lower level of security and it would be a pain to create stuff like an untrusted subnet, etc. What security is