Some info 'HERE'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17551&highlight=qnap)
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The slimserver part of the TS-101 i think is added by Progressive
Computing who are the UK distributer. Odd that a standard version of
the 101 isnæt on the QNap site though. There is also going to be a
TS-401 with slimserver installed, this you can see on QNap.
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AlienBBC is on the TS-101 out of the box, but all software is
propriatory.
So any additional plug-ins would have to be re-coded to suit the
version of slimserver on the TS-101.
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Sanctum Wrote:
> AlienBBC is on the TS-101 out of the box, but all software is
> propriatory.
> So any additional plug-ins would have to be re-coded to suit the
> version of slimserver on the TS-101.
I'm not sure what you mean by this. Slimserver (and most of the
plugins) are GPL, not proprietary
radish Wrote:
> I'm not sure what you mean by this. Slimserver (and most of the plugins)
> are GPL, not proprietary
Sorry, I wasn't very clear.
SS is GPL, but the version running on the TS-101 is proprietary and not
available for download.
I recall reading that they will look at integrating add-o
This post from october last seems to indicate that not much needed to be
changed.
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=59501&postcount=11
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This is a potentially serious issue. I don't know much about the Qnap
device, but the following appears to be true:
It runs some version of Linux on x86, which comes preinstalled.
It optionally runs slimserver and a number of third party plugins,
which can (optionally) come preinstalled.
If it r
Qnap do not install or provide any version of Slimserver Radish. (they
don't even provide a version with a HD fitted). That's done by the UK
distributor, Progressive AV. I can't comment on the GPL issues.
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>From the discussion last Oct.
TS-101 is a PPC based system and runs a version of Ubuntu. Slimserver
is being installed by Progressive Consulmer Electronics in the UK.
They also plan to install Slimserver on QNAP Ts-401 which is an x86
processor.
I believe their own software is some sort of aut
OK, so Qnap are merely responsible for providing the Linux sources.
Responsible companies (such as Dlink, Linksys, etc) have GPL download
pages on their websites (e.g. http://tinyurl.com/kf3sm. I don't see
Qnap's - does the documentation mention the GPL? Offer the sourcecode?
If not they seem to b
My impression is that Progressive have been working fairly closely with
SD. ISTR hearing a suggestion that SD might be involved in US supply of
Qnaps somehow? Or maybe I dreamt it?
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Regarding mplayer - I'd expect that Progressive are using the standard
build for PPC.
I'd be worried about them redistributing the RealAudio codecs but the
latest version of mplayer can avoid that for most stations.
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> Regarding mplayer - I'd expect that Progressive are using the standard
> build for PPC.
>
It doesn't matter who built it - they're distributing the binary, they
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I didn't make myself clear - unlike most GPL, the mplayer maintainers
allow redistribution of binaries from standard builds without source as
the source will be the mplayerhq site.
When there are modifications they require that it is clearly identified
as a non-standard build and that the GPL te
More than happy to make the sources available for everybody. You won't
be able to do anything with them though because you have no way of
getting in to the box (at Qnap's request).
If there is a problem with the way we are doing things then please PM
me. If we have to take out AlienBBC then out i
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ultra238a Wrote:
> More than happy to make the sources available for everybody. You won't
> be able to do anything with them though because you have no way of
> getting in to the box (at Qnap's request).
>
> If there is a problem with the way we are doing things then please PM
> me. If we have t
Is this still a forum for slimdevices/slimserver? Based on
the amount of postings related the teething problems of
the Qnap device, its more like a Qnap forum. May I suggest
to create a seperate forum for Qnap related problems? My
understanding is that all reported issues are not related
to th
Two threads hardly constitute a Qnap forum! The threads are
appropriately titled (so it's very easy for the uninterested to avoid)
and they relate specifically to the Slimsever/Qnap package as marketed
by Progressive AV, so are not OT. There are many threads here which
don't interest me. My simple
Well said! In any event, a computer free/NAS setup with a squeezebox is
a subject that often crops up for obvious reasons. The Qnap, I assume,
is one of the first attempts to tackle an out-of-the box product and I
imagine there are a lot of squeezebox users out there interested in how
it pans out.
Curious.
With these Qnaps, is it just a case of using a pc to transfer music
across to it, then when all the music is on, just have a wired sb3
connected to it? So it would be qnap>sb3>dac>speakers ?
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Yup - although the Qnap will ideally be part of your network so you can
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davidcotton Wrote:
> Curious.
>
> With these Qnaps, is it just a case of using a pc to transfer music
> across to it, then when all the music is on, just have a wired sb3
> connected to it? So it would be qnap>sb3>dac>speakers ?
>
> Cheers.
That would work. I'm doing it slightly differently wi
I generally tend to get cds a few at a time, so it wouldn't be that
great a chore for me to just move the qnap back to where the pc is and
rip a load at the same time when I get them. Pcs in another room to
the bedroom and I don't have a wireless router. The qnap routes one
I'm considering, anot
The Qnap is small and has no fan. It would be very easy to move it back
and forth for file transfers. The alternative is a long ethernet cable
which you can run between rooms temporarily for transfers.
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Qnap is fanless so only noise will be from HD. Size is about that of a
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Fifer Wrote:
> The Qnap is small and has no fan. It would be very easy to move it back
> and forth for file transfers. The alternative is a long ethernet cable
> which you can run between rooms temporarily for transfers.
That reminds me. What type of cable would I need to
a)link a wired squee
davidcotton Wrote:
> That reminds me. What type of cable would I need to
>
> a)link a wired squeezebox3 to a qnap? I know fifer mentions ethernet
> but is that all I have to ask for when I go into somewhere like pcworld
> or order it online?
>
> b)link the qnap to a non wireless netgear dg834
davidcotton Wrote:
> That reminds me. What type of cable would I need to
>
> a)link a wired squeezebox3 to a qnap? I know fifer mentions ethernet
> but is that all I have to ask for when I go into somewhere like pcworld
> or order it online?
Get Cat 5e as a minimum. If you're considering lon
Just to clarify for David (and apologies if you know this), you need an
Ethernet cable for (a) and (b). The same cable should fit both
applications. The wired SB3 comes with a 10 foot cable in the box. Cat
5e and Cat 6 is a reference to the type/quality of cable used and will
possibly be indicated
Quote:
Originally Posted by davidcotton
That reminds me. What type of cable would I need to
a)link a wired squeezebox3 to a qnap? I know fifer mentions ethernet
but is that all I have to ask for when I go into somewhere like pcworld
or order it online?
As I understand it. You need ethernet cab
Stuart Wrote:
> I'd like to nominate (if that's the way these things are done) Qnap for
> a forum of its own. At the moment, every query and bit of information
> is buried in the 40+ page thread and this makes it a bit difficult to
> find things, and any query gets added on the end.
Good idea Stu
I was going to suggest something like this a couple of times, but never
got round to posting :)
If there was a NAS forum some stickies to cover frequent questions
would be a big benefit i think.
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Bump - Sorry for bringing it to the top, I just thought that it had got
buried with all that has been going on over the last few days.
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This is my vote for a NAS forum.
Nick.
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How sure can we be Paul? It was less than 24 hours ago that Gareth (from
Progressive/Cooltopia) told me that delivery had been confirmed for 26th
January!
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Well if the initial reviews turn out ok, this may end up being an early
birthday present to myself :)
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Threatening to be a saga of immense proportions, but I see
advancedmp3players.co.uk are now slating Friday 10 March as a potential
delivery date. Yawn.
After all the broken promises from Progressive and co, has anyone
finally got their hands on one of these babies yet?
Cheers
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No. I received an email from Progressive promising deliveries would
start on Tuesday of last week. Heard br all since. Still, it's only
four months late ...
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Ok it is all my fault now. I didn't realise that HDD's would take so
long to format!
Basically we are going to start shipping tomorrow. I am going to our
warehouse in the morning to finish off the last remaining units of
stock that need setting up to complete existing orders.
I will post links t
ultra238a Wrote:
> Orders for 300Gb & 400Gb TS-101's will ship first followed by 500Gb,
> 160Gb & 200Gb orders.
I just knew that the 200GBs would be last ...
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Fifer,
Don't worry they will be going out tomorrow even if it kills me!
Paul
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Appreciated and apologies for letting my frustration show.
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Although I cancelled my order out of frustration a fair old while ago
now, I'd still be interested in the reviews... I will wait with
anticipation for the feedback...
thanks
Paul
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They have left the building!
Our next consignment will be with us next week. All we have left in
stock at the moment is 160Gb versions. We will have more 500Gb versions
middle of next week and we should be in free stock on all models within
two weeks now all of the back orders have cleared.
Many
I have just received my 300GB Qnap and will attempt to install some time
this weekend (despite my squeezebox away for a swap-out, suffering from
the dreaded display failure problem). A couple of quick questions - the
quick start quide is not entirely clear. Apologies if these seem to be
'stupid' q
Sorry a amendment to the Qnap manual should have been sent out but was
missed out of the initial shipment.
The Qnap TS-101 comes from Qnap with out a drive. We have installed the
drive and set everything up so you can just plug in and go.
You do not need to go through any initial setup procedure
Paul,
Any plans for a driveless option? I've decided to build a RAID desktop
system for my music and other storage needs, but would be interested in
a 101 for some of its non-Slimserver functions.
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Hi Funkstar,
Yes a number of our resellers are going to be selling the driveless
options soon. The RRP on this product will be £179.99 inc VAT
Regards
Paul
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funkstar Wrote:
> Paul,
>
> Any plans for a driveless option? I've decided to build a RAID desktop
I've got it connected to my wireless router and can see the directories
in "My Network Places" but whenever I try to navigate, it hangs the "My
Network Places" window (program not responding). Any ideas?
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let me understand, the the slim server is already installed on the
ts-101 system?or you need a plugging?
I get a look on the ts-101 manual (from here:
http://www.ultimatestorage.co.uk/ts-101.html), but I can't find any
information about.
I'm very interested on this solution, but what is about the
Yes, slimserver is already installed on the TS-101 (this is one of the
reasons Paul has been busy formatting all the drives). It isn't in the
standard manual because Slimserver isn't a standard feature, it has
been added by Progressive Computing.
Scanning will slow down the server. It will slow d
ok, this means: to get the slim server in the ts-101 I have to purchase
it from "Progressive Consumer Electronics Ltd" or I have to integrate
it my self.
Then, where to purchase the ts-101 with integrated slim server?
or, where to get information how to install the slim server in ts-101?
regard
It must be possible to add Slimserver to the TS-101 yourself, as Multi
Task Computing are selling the bare device without a hard drive. As for
the details on how to do that... no idea :)
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Well, I've had my TS-101 for two days now so I thought I'd give an
update on how I'm doing with it. In short, not very well so far.
Physically, it seems an attractive, robust, well engineered piece of
kit. It's heavier than I expected but feels solid and looks pretty
good.
I've had it hooked up
Got my TS-101 on Friday. Cannot get it working.
Connected through Devolo power plugs. The Squeezebox works really well
when connected to the Slimserver on my PC. Copied all the files across
to the TS-101. Rescanned them as instructed. The Squeezebox can see all
the music(albums, artists, tracks e
No, I didn't get any emailed instruction. I mapped the drives when I was
connected by wireless, but not again since I connected by ethernet
(different address). I'll try that, thanks.
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Sorry this is so long. But this is the extra page that should have gone
to everybody (as I understand it). Not sure if it will tell you
anything new. I assume you remapped the drive with the QNAP utility
rather than Windows? Although not sure that it makes any difference, I
couldn't actually map m
Thanks for that. I'm just about to remap the drive (I had to clear 6
inches of snow from the drive first ;)).
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I mapped the drive. I started the copy. It crashed after 3 minutes. :(
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I seem to have the same problem as everyone else! Mapped the drive ok,
but after copying a few of my music files across the whole thing locks
up with the " Error copying file or "folder. Cannot copy [filename]"
message. Any explorer window that formally had the Qnap folder/mapped
drives in them ar
happyfishman, you have described my experience exactly.
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Yup, i'm pretty sure it's not a problem or fault with my home set-up. I
have been running my squeezebox very successfully from a Western
Digital NAS drive for a while now. Just wanted to get away from the
Slimserver-through-laptop configuration.
So what happens now? Do they need to go back...?
Mine has not arrived yet but I was planning on copying the music files
across using USB and then running the SB3 off it as designed. Anyone
tried this - at least it would get you started?
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I haven't tried that - bought it exactly because it says on the tin that
it's supposed to be a 'network attached' server...
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Agreed but as you have identified a problem (which hopefully will be
solved) how about seeing if the thing works in other areas. With the
music on-board there may still be issues!
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True... I perhaps should have said that my file transfer failure is from
one NAS drive to another, but both are wired directly into the router
(i.e. this is not a wireless transfer) - not sure if that holds any
significance. At the other end, as I said, I'm not in a position to say
how well the sq
happyfishman Wrote:
> True... I perhaps should have said that my file transfer failure is from
> one NAS drive to another, but both are wired directly into the router
> (i.e. this is not a wireless transfer) - not sure if that holds any
> significance.
Probably not as I've tried PC to TS-101 by
I can get my set up working if I disable the router's firewall which I
clearly do not want to do. I do not know how to set up the port
forwarding to allow it to work which I now think is the problem. If
anybody can help with this I would really appreciate it.
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That's possibly a significant step forward. I'd convinced myself it
couldn't be the firewall as it didn't fail immediately, copying fine
for up to five minutes. It will be good if it is something as basic as
port forwarding needing to be set.
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Had one last go at drag and drop file transfer (4th time lucky?)...
Lock-up after 30 minutes (3GB - only halfway though the A's). Got this
pop-up message: "An error occurred while reconnecting T: to
\\SlimServer-01\Qdownload. Microsoft Windows Network: The local device
name is already in use. This
Almost missed this... had a simultaneous pop-up error message with the
previously mentioned: "cannot copy [filename]: The path is too deep".
Heavy man
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These guys sound like they have good intentions. Hopefully they work
out the bugs and are able to deliver a working product sometime in the
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It is worth saying that I had absolutely no trouble with the copying
stage, just short of 100gb all in one go. Took a long time though. Mine
is a 400gb unit. All done over ethernet via my Devolo plugs. perhaps
there are some issues with the 300 & 500 being very sensitive to
particular hard drives?
Mine is a 200GB. Trumper, did you have a hardware or software firewall
enabled when copying? If so, do you have any ports forwarded?
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I made no adjustments to my system before the copying ie no port
forwarding added and firewalls left on. ZA Pro on donor machine and the
Linksys router firewall also on.
I think I may be being a bit thick here but I still don't understand
why my Squeezebox can see all my files on the TS-101 but t
astek Wrote:
>
>
> Then, where to purchase the ts-101 with integrated slim server?
>
www.advancedmp3players.co.uk are also selling the qnap with integrated
slimserver. Though thier shipping is delayed to due to installing and
configuring slimserver.
I'm hoping to take delivery of a 200gb TS-1
Just for info... I telephoned mutitask computing this morning and it
seems they've had a fair few calls from people with problems similar to
the above. They're working to establish the cause(s) and how it can be
fixed. I think they will send out an update email when there's some
news.
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Can someone please post here if an update email is sent out? Given that
I didn't get the original email, I'd hate to miss any update too.
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OK, one more day on but still no music.
To recap. I have easily transferred 100gb of music onto my TS101-400. I
can see the files. WM Player on my PC can see and play all the files.
The Squeezebox can see all the files, artists, tracknames etc but will
not receive any actual stream. It goes thro
Trumper, you are one of the 'lucky' ones with a 400GB. Most of us
haven't even got as far as you yet. ;)
Could you copy over some mp3 or FLAC files and see if they play (just
to eliminate the WM lossless theory)?
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Thanks Fifer & Richie.
Copied an MP3 over and its works perfectly. HOORAY it works.
BUT, I have 100gb of WMA Lossless files which I really can't face
re-ripping. I guess there must be an easy solution to this? Some sort
of conversion program? I really want them in high quality and not in
'only'
Eek! Does this mean Apple Lossless will not work either?
I know most of you guys swear by FLAC but there are those amongst us
who have iPods and need the crossover capability.
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Trumper, I've never worked with WMA lossless, but given that it's
lossless, there must be something that will batch convert them all to
FLAC. I use Easy CD-DA Converter (http://www.poikosoft.com/) for all
my ripping and format conversion.
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The Slimserver on the TS-101 does list Apple lossless as a compatible
format which suggests it should be ok but then again it also lists
Windows Media which as in prior post will not run.
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I've got a 300GB TS-101 and am having the problem people have been
reporting where you can't copy my music to it. It stops after a few
hundred MB. The device seems to crash completely with neither the
shares nor the web interface being available.
But also, before it crashes it seems to be very sl
Thought I'd throw something else into the mix...
My Qnap won't enter standby mode. I have it set for standby after 30
minutes (the default in the supplied configuration utility) but after
four hours of inactivity it's humming away and getting quite hot
(probably normal for this type of device). H
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Ok I am back in the UK.
I have been with Qnap over at CeBIT over the last couple of days and I
am waiting for an answer from their technical team.
Currently as it stands at the moment it seems like all of the problems
are being caused by incompatibilities between the HDD we have fitted
and TS-10
Thanks for the update Paul. I do feel for you. The relief after shipping
at long last can't have lasted for long. Fingers crossed for a firmware
solution (which presumably we can download and install without
returning the boxes?)
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Thanks Fifer but I think it might not happen like that.
Keep an eye on this thread for more news either tonight or tomorrow
morning.
Paul
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Thanks BillC for the info on DB Poweramp music converter. It really is a
nice program to use. I converted one album although it took 22 mins on
my laptop. Need to use my much more powerful desktop otherwise it is
going to take several weeks to convert all the files. Certainly much
slower than ripp
WMA Lossless needs to be decoded by the server before being sent to the
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Re: WMA Lossless
I have tested the file and it doesn't play. I'll check with SD to see
what is needed and if we can get it working we'll issue an update so
they will play.
Paul
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Trumper1 Wrote:
>
> One final thing. In line with an earlier comment in this thread it
> never goes into standby. Even when its the only thing on the network
> the LAN light keeps flickering indicating some activity. Perhaps this
> is what keeps it on although not sure what the data moving actua
I have a Western Digital 300 GB NAS drive with connected Maxtor external
160 GB drive running alongside the Qnap on the same network. All are set
to go into standby after 30 minutes of inactivity. All of them are
fairly warm to the touch when running and make a humming or whispering
sound (no fan,
The something humming and whispering is likely to be the Hard Drive I'd
have thought. Does Slimserver poll the Squeezebox peiodically? If so,
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> Does Slimserver poll the Squeezebox peiodically? If so, the LAN traffic
> caused by that is possibly preventing the Qnap from going into standby?
That's certainly not the cause, because I don't have a squeezebox, or
any music streamer yet.
But the LAN light does flash every few sec
Fifer Wrote:
> The something humming and whispering is likely to be the Hard Drive I'd
> have thought. Does Slimserver poll the Squeezebox peiodically? If so,
> the LAN traffic caused by that is possibly preventing the Qnap from
> going into standby?
Actually, that sounds sensible... When I have
Playing with slimserver at work I notice that there is a setting in the
slimserver internet options menu to control the "browser refresh
interval".
Pushing this out to a stupidly high number might stop the slimserver
constantly re-writing it's html page to the hard drive and allow the
TS-101 to go
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