Re: [slim] SqueezeCenter 7 nasty Database/Browsing issues

2008-03-12 Thread SteveEast
alexho;278979 Wrote: > I beg to differ: You cannot control this behaviour with Albumartist > Tags. At least, using TPE2 tags alone does not seem to affect it. > > Using an "inverse compilation" tag, setting TCMP=0 has the desired > effect, but it involves a nonstandard ID3 tag. [read: ugly nonst

Re: [slim] SqueezeCenter 7 nasty Database/Browsing issues

2008-03-12 Thread radish
snarlydwarf;279000 Wrote: > Apple uses the nonstandard TCMP tag. > AFAIK Apple _invented_ the nonstandard TCMP tag, so they clearly "got it right" for some obscure value of "right" :) -- radish radish's Profile: http://

Re: [slim] SqueezeCenter 7 nasty Database/Browsing issues

2008-03-12 Thread snarlydwarf
alexho;278979 Wrote: > I > Using an "inverse compilation" tag, setting TCMP=0 has the desired > effect, but it involves a nonstandard ID3 tag. [read: ugly nonstandard > hack!] > > ... > > Resolution: This should be user configurable. Even Apple and Microsoft > get this right, so a motivated Ope

Re: [slim] SqueezeCenter 7 nasty Database/Browsing issues

2008-03-12 Thread alexho
I beg to differ: You cannot control this behaviour with Albumartist Tags. At least, using TPE2 tags alone does not seem to affect it. Using an "inverse compilation" tag, setting TCMP=0 has the desired effect, but it involves a nonstandard ID3 tag. [read: ugly nonstandard hack!] And yes, the Comp

Re: [slim] SqueezeCenter 7 nasty Database/Browsing issues

2008-03-12 Thread SteveEast
alexho;278924 Wrote: > A lot of Albums that are clearly not compilations are flagged as such. > So, while it sounds like a smart feature, the way it works now it is > more of a defect :) > > I think the problem here is that "clearly not compilations" varies according to the viewer. Let's turn

Re: [slim] SqueezeCenter 7 nasty Database/Browsing issues

2008-03-12 Thread alexho
A lot of Albums that are clearly not compilations are flagged as such. So, while it sounds like a smart feature, the way it works now it is more of a defect :) Speaking of workarounds - I prefer the "Classic" skin. But it also suffers when displaying Compilations. Instead of just indicating "Albu

Re: [slim] SqueezeCenter 7 nasty Database/Browsing issues

2008-03-12 Thread Phil Leigh
Well - you might think its brain-dead but it seems reasonable to me! Anyway, I'm glad you've found a way to make things work for you. Phil -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI

Re: [slim] SqueezeCenter 7 nasty Database/Browsing issues

2008-03-12 Thread alexho
Actually the problem is the braindead automatic Compilation detection in SqueezeServer. (They should add a switch to disable it!!!) If you have an album by Artist A, and just one track is played by guest artist B, the album is listed/sorted as compilation. Thanks to your links I've found that yo

Re: [slim] SqueezeCenter 7 nasty Database/Browsing issues

2008-03-12 Thread Phil Leigh
Ah - yes well spotted! If you are going to use the ArtistSort tag (I don't as it happens) then you have to apply it consistently. No DBMS is going to handle valid but conflicting data. I couldn't understand why one would put "Various Artists" into an ArtistSort tag... -- Phil Leigh You want t

Re: [slim] SqueezeCenter 7 nasty Database/Browsing issues

2008-03-12 Thread snarlydwarf
alexho;278869 Wrote: > In fact, the problems is: > > If you have a track with > Artist="Foo" ArtistSort="Foo" > > and another track, on another album with > Artist="Foo" ArtistSort="Bar" > > the outcome on SqueezeCenter seems to be random. > > All the albums and tracks belonging to that arti

Re: [slim] SqueezeCenter 7 nasty Database/Browsing issues

2008-03-12 Thread Phil Leigh
also - see this old bug http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3069 it was fixed but it may be to do with the fact that you are using contributor tags and artist sort tags...? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal..

Re: [slim] SqueezeCenter 7 nasty Database/Browsing issues

2008-03-12 Thread alexho
I am referring to the "Artistsort" Tag. In my case (MP3/ID3) this is the "TSOP" Tag, but it also exists in Flac/Vorbis where it is called "ARTISTSORT". -- alexho alexho's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php

Re: [slim] SqueezeCenter 7 nasty Database/Browsing issues

2008-03-12 Thread Phil Leigh
Also - check out thi sthread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44094&highlight=compilation -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibratio

Re: [slim] SqueezeCenter 7 nasty Database/Browsing issues

2008-03-12 Thread Phil Leigh
What's "Artist Sort"? is that a tag (or are you referring to an entry in the SC database) -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-D

Re: [slim] SqueezeCenter 7 nasty Database/Browsing issues

2008-03-12 Thread alexho
In fact, the problems is: If you have a track with Artist="Foo" ArtistSort="Foo" and another track, on another album with Artist="Foo" ArtistSort="Bar" the outcome on SqueezeCenter seems to be random. All the albums and tracks belonging to that artist are either sorted under "Foo" or under "B

Re: [slim] SqueezeCenter 7 nasty Database/Browsing issues

2008-03-12 Thread Phil Leigh
hmmm...the tags are at track level - IME you shouldn't have any tags with "Various Artists" in them...AFAIK that's not how SC/SS works. I've just checked my several hundred VA albums - not a "Various Artists" tag to be seen...just the real track artist(s) -- Phil Leigh You want to see the sign

Re: [slim] SqueezeCenter 7 nasty Database/Browsing issues

2008-03-12 Thread alexho
done and no change. The problem seems to be the Contributor record: blob="Laurie Anderson" namesort="VARIOUS ARTISTS" namesearch="LAURIE ANDERSON" Theory: I have tagged all my "Various Artists" Albums with TPE2 and TSOP "Various Artists". There is one such an Album with a single track "Laurie An

Re: [slim] SqueezeCenter 7 nasty Database/Browsing issues

2008-03-12 Thread Phil Leigh
deselect "Band/Orchestra" change to "List Albums by all artists for that album" clear and rescan Still looks to me as if the all-important Album Artist tag is not set... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stont

Re: [slim] SqueezeCenter 7 nasty Database/Browsing issues

2008-03-12 Thread alexho
My discs are organized One directory per disc (eg 0657) Files are named like that d:\music\mp3\disc\00657\d0657t07.mp3 FYI, my current Behaviour Settings are Composer ( ) Conductor ( ) Band/Orchestra (x) List compilation albums under each artist List albums by band Found out whats happeni

Re: [slim] SqueezeCenter 7 nasty Database/Browsing issues

2008-03-12 Thread Ben Sandee
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 9:05 AM, alexho < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The tags however, are 100% fine. Famous last words. Check for APEv2 tags. If you drill down to the track level it should say where the tags are being pulled from. Ben ___ discus

Re: [slim] SqueezeCenter 7 nasty Database/Browsing issues

2008-03-12 Thread Phil Leigh
How is your disk directory structure organised? iTunes and wmp handle tags differently to SC. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF

Re: [slim] SqueezeCenter 7 nasty Database/Browsing issues

2008-03-12 Thread alexho
All 14000 MP3 songs have correct TPE1 and TPE2 tags. Everything is tagged according ID3v2.3.0 All files have embedded JPGs as album art, and album art shows up fine. All my music shows up fine when loaded into iTunes or WMP11 (on a different macine). Also examining the MP3s with ID3-Tag 3 or a he

Re: [slim] SqueezeCenter 7 nasty Database/Browsing issues

2008-03-12 Thread Phil Leigh
alexho;278736 Wrote: > > To me it looks as if hierarchical views like "Artist,Album" are severly > broken. > > Only on your system - mine is fine and I think that we would have noticed if there was a major problem here! I know you said your tags are fine...and you've done at least one "clear

[slim] SqueezeCenter 7 nasty Database/Browsing issues

2008-03-12 Thread alexho
I've recently done a clean install of SqueezeCenter 7: SqueezeCenter Version: 7.0 - 17793 - Windows Server 2003 - EN - cp1252 Perl Version: 5.8.8 MSWin32-x86-multi-thread MySQL Version: 5.0.22-community-nt I have imported 1200 Albums/14000 MP3s so far. Things work fine with one huge exception: Br