Re: [slim] WOL after a long time off ? Issue

2013-11-11 Thread Mnyb
induna wrote: I had the same issue with my Vortexbox. I had to edit /usr/local/sbin/network_up.sh and add the following 'echo ethtool -s eth0 wol g | at now + 1 minute' to set the WOL configuration after the network had started. This is with Fedora 16, so YMMV. nah that did not work i had

Re: [slim] WOL after a long time off ? Issue

2013-11-11 Thread epoch1970
Mnyb wrote: What surprised me was that it has no memory backup for this ? I don't think this has much to do with memory. I surmise either: a - soft power off mode differs from cold power off in the network card status b - when the machine encounters a power failure event, somehow the bios gets

Re: [slim] WOL after a long time off ? Issue

2013-11-11 Thread Mnyb
epoch1970 wrote: I don't think this has much to do with memory. I surmise either: a - soft power off mode differs from cold power off in the network card status b - when the machine encounters a power failure event, somehow the bios gets zapped to a factory config that has the NIC disabled

Re: [slim] WOL after a long time off ? Issue

2013-11-10 Thread DJanGo
Hi, Wol is a complex thing. its Hard Softwarebased. So please describe your Network and what Versions / Os you have (with the problems) Basic is: The Bios/UEFI has a MenĂ¼ - WOL must be enabled. The Switch/ Router has a Map this MAC Adress is here this Mac Address is there and that MacAdress is

Re: [slim] WOL after a long time off ? Issue

2013-11-10 Thread Mnyb
The server is HP microserver N36L with clear OS 6 beta ( redhat Linux ) WOL is enabled in bios it works for my daily and weekly use , the problem only occurs after a long time away . The router is an old linksys wrt54L with tomato firmware there are some simple Netgear switches in use ( blue

Re: [slim] WOL after a long time off ? Issue

2013-11-10 Thread Mnyb
Due to my erratic travel schedule I have no clue to exactly how long I have to be away = not using the equipment Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2

Re: [slim] WOL after a long time off ? Issue

2013-11-10 Thread d6jg
I'd say likely to be the router forgetting the location of the server due to inactivity. ARP tables etc QNAP TS419p 4Tb LMS7.6.1 Living Room - SB3 - Onkyo TS606 connected Digitally - Celestion Ditton F20s - and connected Analogue for Zone 2 - Sony TA FE 320 - Sennheiser HDR 130 Office - SB3 -

Re: [slim] WOL after a long time off ? Issue

2013-11-10 Thread Mnyb
d6jg wrote: I'd say likely to be the router forgetting the location of the server due to inactivity. ARP tables etc But is not wol supposed to work over broadcast ? if i use an utility where i can manually spec the mac anything on the net with that mac should wake up ? But keep the ideas

Re: [slim] WOL after a long time off ? Issue

2013-11-10 Thread DJanGo
Mnyb wrote: Server , computer and squeezeboxes have static network adresses outside of the routers DCHP pool . Combined with switches that means that the desktop and the server can comunicate even when the router is down. That's why I suspect the NIC in the server as I use etherwake on my

Re: [slim] WOL after a long time off ? Issue

2013-11-10 Thread epoch1970
The MAC will disappear from the ARP table after a while. But as you use the broadcast address this should not be an issue. Enters power management. For a few years now PCs which are euro-compliant are mandated to feature a power off mode ~ 1Wh. Many (all?) machines will reach this level only

Re: [slim] WOL after a long time off ? Issue

2013-11-10 Thread Mnyb
Thank's again ! i will read this more carefully when i get home . Why i wanted to pull the plug was to test if the root cause is that the server looses its memory , before investigating more complex causes . It can be that simple as everything works fine ( including wol ) when i'm around .

Re: [slim] WOL after a long time off ? Issue

2013-11-10 Thread Mnyb
One part solved for now ( I must gather more data after a long stay from home ). Fact I forgot to mention i use WOL to boot the server it's not ojust the standby part . The server NIC can't remember a thing even if remove the power just a couple of seconds . So power cable must be in even if

Re: [slim] WOL after a long time off ? Issue

2013-11-10 Thread induna
Mnyb wrote: One part solved for now ( I must gather more data after a long stay from home ). Fact I forgot to mention i use WOL to boot the server it's not ojust the standby part . The server NIC can't remember a thing even if remove the power just a couple of seconds . So power cable

Re: [slim] WOL after a long time off ? Issue

2013-11-10 Thread Mnyb
induna wrote: I had the same issue with my Vortexbox. I had to edit /usr/local/sbin/network_up.sh and add the following 'echo ethtool -s eth0 wol g | at now + 1 minute' to set the WOL configuration after the network had started. This is with Fedora 16, so YMMV. Really ? I'll check my

Re: [slim] WOL after a long time off ? Issue

2013-11-10 Thread induna
Mnyb wrote: Really ? I'll check my configuration , I have something similar already so WOL is working but it was years since I've done that . Do your vbox handle the total loss of power case ? Yes, it does. I believe that the problem was a timing issue. Although the WOL setting was correct,

Re: [slim] WOL after a long time off ? Issue

2013-11-10 Thread Mnyb
induna wrote: Yes, it does. I believe that the problem was a timing issue. Although the WOL setting was correct, it was being applied before the network interface loaded and wasn't taking effect after cold boots, but did take effect after warm boots. The work-around re-applies the proper

Re: [slim] WOL after a long time off ? Issue

2013-11-10 Thread induna
Mnyb wrote: Interesting it could be hardware dependent too I can't remember my old server doing this . In fact I will check even closer it was so long ago that I migth remember it wrong , my old server needed some script a long these lines to even to do a varm boot ! I'll check if my

[slim] WOL after a long time off ? Issue

2013-11-09 Thread Mnyb
This is a strange one . I don't actually expect to solve it but plausible explanations would be nice . WOL works fine for me , with one exception if I've been away for some weeks ( work usually ). It does not work I have to manually fire up the server once then all is fine indefinitely until