SBGK wrote:
> his last post in no way indicates his intention to leave, so garym was
> correct, or is there a hidden message in there ?
>
> I no longer have anything to contribute here.
> It's been (mostly) fun ... Have a nice life
> Ciao,
> Phil
Why am I not surprised you cut out the line immed
yeomanspc wrote:
> I have 2, and they are great, but they are video products and no
> replacement for SB.
> I also have the A110 - 4 years old I figure and still having firmware
> versions coming out to support new video functions. How's that for
> support?
>
> The new A300 has a very clever 'j
I will never use a DIY PC as an audio player. Not even a very cheap,
very small, very green one.
I tried the HTPC for years, and the experience was pure junk. I used
iTunes 1.0 with a long audio cable running to my stereo, and that wasn't
so good either.
I went to the SB system because it was a
Should any of mine go tzts-up, I'll scrounge for a replacement.
Should a replacement boom be unappealing, I'll BT my tablet to external
speaker (or jack it to a real stereo for remote use.)
Should a replacement receiver be unappealing, I'll get another sb3.
(Duh)
yes, FOR LIFE
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aubuti wrote:
> It would be very unusual for an ordinary forum member, or even an
> extraordinary member, to "officially" announce leaving the forums. In my
> experience, the people who announce they are leaving usually reappear in
> short order (many of them the same nonsense-spewers garym cites
lrossouw wrote:
> If you're doing what I'm thinking
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO8idUH83Y8
and
http://thejunket.org/2012/01/issue-two/are-you-thinking-what-im-thinking-youre-thinking/
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drgn95 wrote:
> Does anyone have experence with Popcornhour products. I'm looking at the
> newer A300 model.
I have 2, and they are great, but they are video products and no
replacement for SB.
I also have the A110 - 4 years old I figure and still having firmware
versions coming out to support n
kidstypike wrote:
> Come over here where we can't be heard ...
>
> What do you think he's doing? :)
I find this "I know something you don't know" game very annoying.
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lrossouw wrote:
> If you're doing what I'm thinking than I'm not worried about the future
> of the SqueezeBoxes... ;)
What do you think he's doing? :)
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erland wrote:
> I don't want to go into any further details at this moment. :)
>
If you're doing what I'm thinking than I'm not worried about the future
of the SqueezeBoxes... ;)
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newer A300 model.
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erland wrote:
> Your Squeezebox hardware worked excellently a week ago, it works
> excellent today and it's likely going to work excellent 6 months in the
> future, so there isn't any reason to hurry or get panic at the moment,
> just wait a bit and see how things will evolve before making any
>
lrossouw wrote:
>
> > erland wrote:
> > ...but I don't want to go into any further details regarding this at the
> > moment> >
> What are you up to erland? :)
>
I don't want to go into any further details at this moment. :)
The only advice I can give you is to not get panic and start buy
castalla wrote:
> Not being any kind of devloper, I wonder how difficult it'd be to create
> an alternative Tunein plugin which doesn't depend on mysb.com?
As long as the developer can get access to the API from TuneIn it won't
be a big problem as long as you are running a local LMS, the LMS is
n
autopilot wrote:
> Ok, this thread was intended to get some hypothetical views about what
> people would buy now, other than a Squeezebox. The first line was
> "Putting the fact that we can still run our hardware in the short term
> aside for now" was intended to avoid "but I'm still going to use
aubuti wrote:
> It would be very unusual for an ordinary forum member, or even an
> extraordinary member, to "officially" announce leaving the forums. In my
> experience, the people who announce they are leaving usually reappear in
> short order (many of them the same nonsense-spewers garym cites
garym wrote:
> No, Phil likely left because he got tired of idiots taking over many
> threads, spewing nonsense. Too much to wade through to get to useful
> things.> autopilot wrote:
> > Did he officially announce his departure?> >
It would be very unusual for an ordinary forum member, or even
SBGK wrote:
> in hindsight this has been on the cards for a while
>
> 1. wind down of the dev team
> 2. lms releases full of bugs
> 3. Phil Leigh leaving the forum
> 4. Touches being sold off at discount on amazon
>
> etc
>
> It's rather poor form of Logitech not to announce the plans for SB.c
autopilot wrote:
> Did he officially announce his departure?
no
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garym wrote:
> No, Phil likely left because he got tired of idiots taking over many
> threads, spewing nonsense. Too much to wade through to get to useful
> things.
Did he officially announce his departure?
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SBGK wrote:
>
> 3. Phil Leigh leaving the forum
>
No, Phil likely left because he got tired of idiots taking over many
threads, spewing nonsense. Too much to wade through to get to useful
things.
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in hindsight this has been on the cards for a while
1. wind down of the dev team
2. lms releases full of bugs
3. Phil Leigh leaving the forum
4. Touches being sold off at discount on amazon
etc
It's rather poor form of Logitech not to announce the plans for SB.com.
Apart from that this is what
If Sonopsy could work on a Mac to transcode hi-res files on Sonos for
the rooms for casual listening, I could live with that and a computer
hooked directly to my main system.
Another solution would be a good dock like the Pure i20 with ipeng
running on an ipad or iphone.
aubuti wrote:
> Which "first line"? The thread topic about the "next system"? Or the
> body of the post about what one would buy now? Given the expected life
> of SB hardware, and even some expected continuation of mysb.com, I would
> certainly have very different answers to those two very diff
jhonsber...@msn.com wrote:
> A Logitech Transporter for running LMS
> and a Sonos Connect connected to the digital input of the Transporter
> for music services and Internet radio .
>
> I'll do this only when mysqueezebox is
> discontinued and I look to buy a cheap used Sonos .
interesting.
A Logitech Transporter for running LMS
and a Sonos Connect connected to the digital input of the Transporter
for music services and Internet radio .
I'll do this only when mysqueezebox is
discontinued and I look to buy a cheap used Sonos .
autopilot wrote:
> Would people please read the first line of my original post please :)
Which "first line"? The thread topic about the "next system"? Or the
body of the post about what one would buy now? Given the expected life
of SB hardware, and even some expected continuation of mysb.com, I
chenrikson wrote:
> Robert -- How did you manage to register? I was fine until I was asked
> to "generate a PIN" -- My SB Radio doesn't seem to have that function.
Just register and when you are asked at the next screen to Add a Radio,
close your browser and then log in.
castalla wrote:
> Not being any kind of devloper, I wonder how difficult it'd be to create
> an alternative Tunein plugin which doesn't depend on mysb.com?
I wonder if it isn't possible for one of the brilliant Plugin developers
to create a Plugin to "emulate" UE for LMS connections to
uesmartra
Not being any kind of devloper, I wonder how difficult it'd be to create
an alternative Tunein plugin which doesn't depend on mysb.com?
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erland wrote:
>
> Related to this, would you be willing to pay an annual or one time fee
> if you would be sure it would make it possible for you to continue using
> your Squeezebox hardware with current or similar features ?
>
Yes! As you said it's the best hardware you can currently get and
MySB.com 'locks-in' the user to Logitech, or at least tries to.
Therefore won't they be replacing it with a MyUE.com ??
There's uesmartradio.com for the new players. Conversion for SB Radio ->
UE SR is planned but not there yet.
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Grumpy Bob wrote:
> You could block mysqueezebox.com at the router to see what effect that
> has
Let us know what you find out. ;)
I have no idea how to do this myself.
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LMS includes a Tunein plugin by default. Does this work independently
of sb.com? . ?
My guess is no. I'm pretty sure that plugin is basically the menu
navigation within the Internet Radio menu's, but still uses MySB in the
background.
That's correct. But many of the _free_ services offe
toby10 wrote:
> My guess is no. I'm pretty sure that plugin is basically the menu
> navigation within the Internet Radio menu's, but still uses MySB in the
> background.
>
> I can emulate LMS running with no MySB account where My Apps and App
> Gallery give the expected "this won't work without
castalla wrote:
> LMS includes a Tunein plugin by default. Does this work independently
> of sb.com? . ?
My guess is no. I'm pretty sure that plugin is basically the menu
navigation within the Internet Radio menu's, but still uses MySB in the
background.
I can emulate LMS running with no
MySB.com 'locks-in' the user to Logitech, or at least tries to.
Therefore won't they be replacing it with a MyUE.com ??
In which case there would be some sort of conversion??
or am I being too simplistic?
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> I don't know, there still seem to be lots of people buying high-end
> speakers out there. I suspect that the same demographic who bought
> great speakers to play vinyl on in the 50s and 60s and who converted to
> digital sources (CDs) in the 80s will be doing so going forward. The
I wouldn't count on it. One of the reasons they are pulling the plug I
think, is that the platform has become too open. You don't actually need
a SB-client anymore to use the server, and with iPeng being able to
emulate a player with sync and 48/96khz, even a novice can set it up.
And if Logitech
RonM wrote:
> I've been wondering about that. I'd think they certainly have an
> obligation to continue to provide services that were at the root of the
> sales offering. At the very least they'd need to provide alternatives.
>
> I suspect there will be something in the works on this.
>
> R.
simbo wrote:
> I know it's anecdotal, but I'm amazed when I go to (richer) people's
> houses with big rooms, massive TVs and high-end furniture, then they
> have a basic iPod dock/speaker kit for their music needs, playing their
> collection of 128kpbs iTunes tracks. I think the demographic you
>
jhonsber...@msn.com wrote:
> I detest legal issues but doesn't Logitech open themselves up to a major
> class
> action lawsuit and individual lawsuits if they discontinue
> mysqueezebox.com?
>
> After all, some folks,like me, purchased their products on the condition
> that this
> service exist
RonM wrote:
> I don't know, there still seem to be lots of people buying high-end
> speakers out there. I suspect that the same demographic who bought
> great speakers to play vinyl on in the 50s and 60s and who converted to
> digital sources (CDs) in the 80s will be doing so going forward. The
garym wrote:
> My understanding from past discussions is that logitech employees are
> not allowed to discuss any new products, OR WHETHER THERE ARE ANY NEW
> PRODUCTS. So Michael's non response on this question does not really
> provide any info about the existence (or not) of any new products
simbo wrote:
> It almost makes you pine for the midi-hifi days of the 80's. At least
> people understood the need for large(r) speakers to fill rooms with
> sound.
>
> What next? Go back to 14" TVs in the corner of the room?
Hmm. Or perhaps 14" computer monitors? Or Smartphone screens?
Those
alfista wrote:
> Not currently no, but there's nothing to say there won't be. It's been
> said that there won't be a "Touch as we know it" that is a rebranded
> Touch the way the new Radio for all intents and purposes is the same box
> as the old one. To me this more or less hints that more produ
Grumpy Bob wrote:
> I think garym is absolutely correct - most people are happy with their
> 128k mp3s played from an iPod or a phone through a dock.
It almost makes you pine for the midi-hifi days of the 80's. At least
people understood the need for large(r) speakers to fill rooms with
sound.
W
Grumpy Bob wrote:
> From my perspective, the new UE system fails my needs because:
> 1. There's not a HiFi quality player, just a radio with no digital or
> analogue outputs (other than a headphone socket)
>
Not currently no, but there's nothing to say there won't be. It's been
said that there
I think garym is absolutely correct - most people are happy with their
128k mp3s played from an iPod or a phone through a dock.
R
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hvb83 wrote:
> Of course this is all based on speculation, but I don't see any sense in
> releasing this new concept to market, if they will not be releasing more
> devices to run on that service. Even Logitech should realize by now that
> the Radio alone isn't going to help the concept survive.
Any chance it will be possible to to install UE firmware on the touch?
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Of course this is all based on speculation, but I don't see any sense in
releasing this new concept to market, if they will not be releasing more
devices to run on that service. Even Logitech should realize by now that
the Radio alone isn't going to help the concept survive. If you read the
posts
simbo wrote:
> Which I find very odd, as Ultimate Ears made/make very good quality
> earphones (I have a set). Looks like this'll upset UE fans as much as
> us.
And they say this on their main web page (forgive the capitalisation, I
just pasted it - so it's their capitalisation):
WE DON'T JUST
Grumpy Bob wrote:
> I registered at the UE website (www.uesmartradio.com) - the server
> software (UE Music Library), is available for Mac and Windows (XP and
> later), but not for Linux.
>
> Robert
Robert -- How did you manage to register? I was fine until I was asked
to "generate a PIN" --
simbo wrote:
> Which I find very odd, as Ultimate Ears made/make very good quality
> earphones (I have a set). Looks like this'll upset UE fans as much as
> us.
But Logitech has now purchased Ultimate Ears. The old UE users seem to
be no more happy with the new Logitech branded UE items than we
Grumpy Bob wrote:
> There's not a HiFi quality player
Which I find very odd, as Ultimate Ears made/make very good quality
earphones (I have a set). Looks like this'll upset UE fans as much as
us.
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hvb83 wrote:
> Perhaps I'm missing out on something or am I just being naive. But do we
> have a clear understanding already of what the new UE-system does and
> what it doesn't do? From what I've seen on the website, it does support
> streaming services like Spotify and Pandora, so why wouldn't
The main difference as far as I can see is that the UE system is not
compatible with the existing LMS system - you have to add another server
to get music access.
Apparently, it will be possible to install the UE firmware on an SB
Radio - but I understood this is a one-way street - you won't be
hvb83 wrote:
> Perhaps I'm missing out on something or am I just being naive. But do we
> have a clear understanding already of what the new UE-system does and
> what it doesn't do? From what I've seen on the website, it does support
> streaming services like Spotify and Pandora, so why wouldn't
Perhaps I'm missing out on something or am I just being naive. But do we
have a clear understanding already of what the new UE-system does and
what it doesn't do? From what I've seen on the website, it does support
streaming services like Spotify and Pandora, so why wouldn't it support
many of the
505 wrote:
> And a plugin for the radio service to interface directly with TuneIn
> could sove the radio part.
>
LMS includes a Tunein plugin by default. Does this work independently
of sb.com?
The Tunein app uses sb.com and has an additional feature not available
in the plugin - Presets (f
erland wrote:
> Related to this, would you be willing to pay an annual or one time fee
> if you would be sure it would make it possible for you to continue using
> your Squeezebox hardware with current or similar features ?
> I'm just asking because I think it's unlikely that Logitech or anybody
erland wrote:
>
> Related to this, would you be willing to pay an annual or one time fee
> if you would be sure it would make it possible for you to continue using
> your Squeezebox hardware with current or similar features ?
> I'm just asking because I think it's unlikely that Logitech or anybo
erland wrote:
> ...but I don't want to go into any further details regarding this at the
> moment
>
What are you up to erland? :)
erland wrote:
>
> Related to this, would you be willing to pay an annual or one time fee
> if you would be sure it would make it possible for you to continue
> Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?
no change it aint dead.
Just like HDDVD aint dead. it all works just fine so why change
anything?
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pippin wrote:
> Yes. Actually the VortexboxPlayer handles more hires than anything els,
> Squeezebox included, it works up to 192kHz.
> And it's a Squeezebox-Player, you can use it with LMS.
johnnydarko wrote:
> Ah, yes, but does the VortexPlayer handle GAPLESS and HI-RES?
http://info.vortexbo
The Apple Airport Express (£79) has all the hardware in it to do the
work of a Squeezebox Receiver.
I am guessing that running LMS, Squeezeplay and Airfoil
http://www.rogueamoeba.com/airfoil/windows/
would achieve all; but a single Squeezebox-Airplay App would be neater.
But what I have is work
johnnydarko wrote:
> Ah, yes, but does the VortexPlayer handle GAPLESS and HI-RES?
Yes. Actually the VortexboxPlayer handles more hires than anything els,
Squeezebox included, it works up to 192kHz.
And it's a Squeezebox-Player, you can use it with LMS.
jhonsber...@msn.com wrote:
> I detest legal issues but doesn't Logitech open themselves up to a major
> class
> action lawsuit and individual lawsuits if they discontinue
> mysqueezebox.com?.
No, as long as they provide the promised services for a certain time
period for newly sold hardware.
Well, my usage of my squeezeboxes is variable.
- The Squeezebox Radio in the bedroom is almost exclusively used to
listen to BBC Radio streams, and only occasionally other streams or my
music collection.
- The Squeezebox Radio in the kitchen is used for BBC Radio, but also to
stream my music (mor
I envy those who feel content to let their Squeezeboxen plod along with
local access and limited functionality. Naturally those who are
concerned by the potential loss of online services are most likely to be
those who use them currently, but I think for many of us our
expectations are slightly di
I registered at the UE website - the server software is available for
Mac and Windows (XP and later), but not for Linux.
Robert
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> Who knows maybe in a few years when all our boxes have died, we will
> only have Minipcs running squeezeslave, or ithingies with iPeng - then
> none of the streaming player companies will get our cash...
I believe this may be the reason why Logitech have killed the SB. I
There is no reason to toss the SBs out of your home yet.
Local playback will always work via a local server, if newer NAS are not
supported, simply run LMS on a MiniPC with something like squeezeplug.
The real problem is, online functionality. Will online services continue
to work. Like Spotify
I will be running LMS that supports local music playback and erland's
plugins until my touches and SB3s die. If nothing better comes along
I'll replace with small form factor silent pcs with digital outs,
running squeezeslave or squeezeplay.
-
agillis wrote:
> Your VortexBox can play directly to your DAC! You don't need a
> SqueezeBox.
Ah, yes, but does the VortexPlayer handle GAPLESS and HI-RES?
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bernt wrote:
> Don't know, there is nothing out there that can replace my SB. :(
>
> If my SB dies I will use an old iPhone/iPod Touch and iPeng.
Your VortexBox can play directly to your DAC! You don't need a
SqueezeBox.
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I detest legal issues but doesn't Logitech open themselves up to a major
class
action lawsuit and individual lawsuits if they discontinue
mysqueezebox.com?
After all, some folks,like me, purchased their products on the condition
that this
service existed and would provide radio services ,otherwi
bobm wrote:
> I don’t want to turn on my TV, find some remote and navigate a
> menu system.
> Bob
Turning the TV on is "optional" you can always use a Smartphone Apps
like Squeeze Commander for Android or iPeng for iOS to navigate the
library and control the player. When you have friends ove
tamanaco wrote:
> All I'm looking for now is to continue to enjoy my local FLAC library
> and some streams from the Internet via my home stereo system. I
> wonder how difficult it would be to get it to run a Squeezeplayer app
> that could run against LMS and display the player interface on th
All I'm looking for now is to continue to enjoy my local FLAC library
and some streams from the Internet via my home stereo system. I doubt
that I will buy another Logitech SB if my SB3 breaks as the SBs future
doesn't look too bright. At one point I bought a Touch (too small a
touch screen for me
I became a SB user (Touch and Radio) just over a year ago. The
continuous software updates (until about early this year) made me
suspect nothing like this is in the near future. Now, even Logitech
websites no longer list SB products!
I am very close to buying another Touch and Radio as backup...
Hi,
my Transporter died recently - I already replaced it with Linn on the
High End Side.
In use I have a Boom, a Receiver and a Radio.
In Stock I got a Classic, a brand new sealed Touch, and a new Receiver,
so I think I can survive some days...
But anyhow, I'm disapointed, but I expected a sit
unhappy about todays news, I had a look around for other systems.
Especially since I am setting up a music system or a friend next week,
was gonna be Touch - but now obviously not anymore.
I had another look at Raumfeld and Sonos. As much as I try, I cannot
fall in love with them.
Sonos - looks v
mp3 licensing is disputed. There are several parties claiming to own the
rights and selling licenses. It's a big mess.
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mp3 decoder is free, if one is not making revenue with it.
if you are doing revenue, you are safe as long as you don't have more
than 100.000USD / year. Then its 2% of your revenue.
http://mp3licensing.com/royalty/emd.html
Mark Miksis wrote:
> This is the key point. I anticipate that my SBs obsolescence will be
> driven by incompatibilities with music services going forward.
I also agree. Local library playback isn't a problem. Services will
definitely be -- and why I'll be looking for non-Logitech alternatives
f
As long as the software is open source (GPL compatible), you can use
ffmpeg.
The problem is mp3. It's not free at all, it's patented and the reason
why on trade shows like IFA the coming days police will walk around and
seize half of the exhibits of Asian CE vendors who have no idea they are
viola
gharris999 wrote:
> So..any chance we will see a sanitized version of the firmware? I.e.
> WAV/FLAC/ALAC? Once an open source community project got rolling, I'm
> sure we'd see MP3/4 and the like making their way in.
Problem as I see this is codec licensing.. Whilst 3rd party
distributions cou
simbo wrote:
> ...as long as Rhapsody, last.fm, TuneIn, etc don't change their APIs.
> Which they will. If there's no incentive to update mysb.com it *will*
> die.
This is the key point. I anticipate that my SBs obsolescence will be
driven by incompatibilities with music services going forward.
garym wrote:
> As long as mysb.com stays alive, I can go on for years, and probably
> will.
...as long as Rhapsody, last.fm, TuneIn, etc don't change their APIs.
Which they will. If there's no incentive to update mysb.com it *will*
die.
Sonos remains the only viable competitor, and an overpriced
autopilot wrote:
> Putting the fact that we can still run our hardware in the short term
> aside for now; To me, it seems like the only real alternative solution
> is Sonos. Opinions? What would you buy now and why?
>
Short term:
- Continue using Squeezebox, it's still the best system out there
I'm going to start playing with J River Media Center on a dedicated tiny
silent PC. JRemote on the iPad to control it.
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my current SB/LMS system. ;)
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pallfreeman wrote:
>
> I could live without the hardware, but LMS is what I'll miss most,
> assuming the worst.
well, LMS as it exists today will never go away. And people could keep
creating 3rd party plugins for it. I have many versions saved on my disk
and backups. They can always be install
garym wrote:
> Am I correct in assuming this system wouldn't handle sync to multiple
> room players
XBMC has squeezebox plugins. The controller/artwork display is OK, but
the player is just a squeezeslave. The showstopper for me was that it
grabs the audio output and doesn't integrate nicely wit
505 wrote:
> Sync, no. But my house is small enough (or the speakers large enough) to
> hear my music everywhere, so I don't need that. It's a nice feature, I'm
> sure, but not a killer-feature for any music system.
>
>
thanks for the info. Interesting about your comment regarding sync not
bei
garym wrote:
> Am I correct in assuming this system wouldn't handle sync to multiple
> room players (across wifi or ethernet) and wouldn't allow the user to
> use services that require authentication (MOG, Spotify, SiriusXM, etc.)
> other than accessing the web based version of these services on
I'm suddenly glad I held onto my CD player...even though it's just been
gathering dust and hasn't been plugged in for 7 years now.
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